room for what? Gang Stalking, Organised Crime or Organized Confusion

February 3, 2007

Gang stalking: Organized Confusion or Organized Crime

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These attacks are happening in all sorts of places, the streets, shops, and rehabs. They are reported to be happening to whistleblowers, and others who have won large settlements from major corperations. 

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  1. I became curious and began reading about what is being called “gangstalking” after seeing it mentioned at a mainstream website.

    When it was posted it started what can only be described as an Internet forum war and ended up being completely removed instead of just locked as would be customary or reasonable.

    The severe attack against the poster trying to discuss the topic started instantly, was way out of proportion and appeared to be coordinated, or from a single poster with several aliases. These aliases were newly registered with zero posts at the start.

    The “stalking poster” was immediately called mentally ill, crazy and schizophrenic and told they were “off their meds” before the discussion had even gotten started.

    “Cyberstalking”? The actions and indications were clearly there for anyone to see.

    During the past year and a half of reading research I have witnessed several similar obvious attacks on observably reasonable posters of this subject.

    The attacks just reminded me of all the victims of crimes throughout history that have been labeled “mentally ill” by their often influential attackers, especially the victims of stalking and sexual assault before anyone would believe or take them seriously.

    I don’t agree with or believe everything I’ve read on this subject.

    I do believe some of what I read was written by impostors acting as victims or other, working to undermine the truth of it.

    I believe much of what I read was written by people in desperate situations searching for an answer somewhere in their own experience.

    I believe some things I read were from people who may be mentally ill or have been driven toward delusions and mental illness.

    Any reasonable, intelligent person investigating organized stalking would conclude it has happened and is happening in society.

    The only reason for such a person to conclude otherwise would be some type of vested or other interest.

    The questions of who, what, where, when and why could have as many accurate or inaccurate answers as victims.

    I do know organized stalking needs more reasonable discussion and attention in main stream media and law enforcement.

    Comment by Unbiased — February 9, 2007 @ 6:44 pm

  2. I have been a victim of this phenomenon for about 10 years. It is unfortunately very real. The harrassment usually coincides or intensifies with me publishing political opinions on certain subjects on the internet, such as the banking system, freedom of expression and conscience and related matters.

    Comment by a victim — February 10, 2007 @ 12:05 am

  3. Organised stalking does exist. It is a reality, one that is hidden by the power structure that underlays it. This power structure being made up of government entities indirectly support this activity. The NSA, the pentagon, CIA. In the same way these groups are responsible for the UFO abduction phenomena, in there attempts to implant innocent people for research in IIC satellite system that interfaces implants with centralized technology. Of course implants/UFOs/secret experimentation is relegated to the ‘bizzare’ realm of quesi-entertainment, and this is simply done through media controls.

    Weapons experimentation, PSYOPS, use gang stalking to control the victims, eliminate their credibility, and make way for a risk free playing feild that will end in the termination of the victim through induced suicide.

    Of course these enterprises are used for revenge services, to take out people who have won large settlements from major corperations in courts. These targets become practice tools for direct non-lethal weapons, implantations, PSYOPS, pshychological warfare etc.

    It just so happens that the target will, in my experience, have much of his or her communications controled. This is done in extreem cases, where the target;’s exposing of the crimes done to him or her will jepordize participants, who, are not directly related to the operations.

    Actually this is protocol for most targets. Protection is what they are after.

    Security of e-mails, blogs etc. will be compromnised.

    I recommend looking into The Illuminati. I initially found it hard to believe much of the writing concerning this, but I am now beginning to see how some of it may be reality, though skeptical in the overall arguments the likes of Cisco Wheeler.

    Comment by minigh — February 13, 2007 @ 6:02 pm

  4. Gang Stalking is a protection business for criminals run by criminals. It is all about money and power from the top to the bottom.

    Some people think Gang Stalking may be condoned or at least ignored by governments because of a perceived lack of effort on the part of law enforcement to investigate these crimes.

    Gang Stalking is used to eliminate witnesses to crimes and “take care” of personal vendettas of criminal syndicate members who may be working anywhere in society in any position, much like “sleeper” terrorists, except their goal is to never have themselves or their crimes revealed.

    Gang Stalking crews offer services to anyone with the proper criminal connection and money.

    Gang Stalking assaults are continuous.

    Gang Stalkers coerce family, friends and neighbors to participate in stalking activities. They will use your neighbors houses or apartments for surveillance and as a base to launch attacks against you.

    Stalkers will rent or buy properties close to you for constant surveillance and attack bases.

    Quote – “The expressed goal of Gang Stalking is to silence a victim, drive a victim insane and possibly to the point of suicide, or destroy the victim’s reputation and believability as the person will likely be viewed as mentally ill should they complain or report the abuse.

    It involves provoking and harassing someone continually until they become exasperated and respond in some manner. Then this response is recorded and documented as an indication of how “unstable”, “crazy”, “dangerous”, etc. the person is. In effect, playing games with cause and effect.

    The harassers as a group may have broken dozens of laws and committed dozens of torts in an effort to provoke someone into responding in some “unstable” manner that they can “document” and use as “evidence”, often with the help of unwitting bystanders.”

    The success of Gang Stalking is dependent on the gradual covert poisoning of the victim, using neural interrupters and psychotropic drugs.

    The foundation of Gang Stalking is planned slander. Constant roomers of mental illness, defamation of character, implication of criminal behavior. The lies are “tailored” to the victim.

    Victims of Gang Stalking are set up for and led into deviant behavior or crimes after they have been drugged/poisoned. This “evidence” will be documented and used against the victim.

    When stalkers ask each other if a victim has been sensitized, they are asking if the victim has been poisoned/drugged to the point where “street theater” will be effective to invoke a response. They also want to know the “Gang Stalking Methods” that have been “imprinted” on the victim so they can continue with the same.

    Schizophrenia is the “howl” of the Gang Stalker. You might witness “the victim is schizophrenic” attack anywhere, but it is especially prevalent in their cyber-stalking. Gang Stalkers often revise the definition of schizophrenia to better fit their goals.

    Their chemical attacks are intended to and will cause the mental break down of the victim if they fail to protect themselves. Gang Stalkers intend all poison/drug induced behavior by the victim to be mistaken for mental illness.

    Victims of Gang Stalking have reported being attacked by “directed energy weapons”. A type of acoustic weapon that has even been for sale on the Internet in various forms could account for some of these attacks. Here is an example of one in current use by Israel. The capabilities of this weapon and resulting symptoms are accurately reported by Dr. Malcolm Davis on National Public Radio.

    Quote NPR Transcript, Dr.Malcolm Davis – “…low-frequency sound to the point that you can’t actually hear the sound. And the effect that both weapons produce, is to vibrate the internal organs of the human body…” “…dizziness and nausea and potentially a burning sensation on the skin…”

    http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=4701588

    Electromagnetic weapons and attacks by the same have been confirmed by credible sources. The accounts of victims are mounting daily.

    Various stalking crews have been reported and are networked throughout the United States, Russia, Canada, United Kingdom, Australia, India and many other countries. Reports of attacks come from all countries. These Stalking Crews are made up of well and lesser known organized crime syndicates, street gangs, extremist groups, secret societies, common criminals, and paid, coerced or duped citizens.

    Advanced communications have precipitated the growth of this organized crime and are required for it’s operation.

    Gang Stalking is intended to completely destroy a victim’s life, while leaving little if any evidence.

    Comment by anonymous | January 28, 2007
    2.

    In the above, by duped citizens I mean everyone, including police, firemen, rescue squads, ambulance workers etc.

    And I do think Gang Stalking crews could and probably are co-opting citizen/community policing programs. This means Gang Stalkers are great con-artists or have legal and criminal connections.

    It is very important for a victim to defend themselves against the lies told in the community and to police by Gang Stalkers. Unfortunately, most people will automatically believe anything they hear. Look at the post on that “Who’s a Rat” site that says -

    Quote – “Is anybody familiar with the new KKK? It’s called gangstalking. They do the dirty work that cops can’t/won’t do.”

    That is suggesting that Gang Stalkers only assault criminals. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

    Many of the duped citizen stalkers I have encountered obviously have no idea who I am and appear to believe I am a criminal or crazy. I’m sure this is part of what they are told along with their standard “brainwashing” treatment.

    Some “professional” stalkers I see behave like a cult from hell, others have had overt mafia-like qualities.

    Comment by anonymous | January 28, 2007
    3.

    FUCK the PeRpS! e.g. “CREEPS”

    Comment by Donald F. Truax | February 13, 2007

    Comment by Interesting Information — February 16, 2007 @ 1:00 am

    • I have been a victim of gangstalking, and my stalkers are scumbag criminals, who live near my apartment. My last employer and my current employer are involved in this also. I think they expected me to be a prostitute for them or something. The neighborhood stalkers are, I think, a group of homeless and destitute and are harassing me all the time. I had to complain to my landlord for months and months and tell him how n=my neighbor would follow me and hound me day in and day out and now he’s finally in the process of being evicted and I know I will see retaliation from that. I don’t know if they are destroying me because housing in my area is limited and outrageously expensive but, they’ve intercepted mail, which I believe may have contained checks and letters from family. The locksmith that changed my locks when I first moved in lives right next door to me. I hired a new locksmith because someone had broken into my apartment and stolen cash and my apartment was broken into right after the next locksmith changed my locks because when I came home from work I found a patio door open, and I’m REALLY careful about locking up. My current employer, an attorney, laughs in my face when I tell him about these things, I have been degraded every day at work by the last two sole proprietors I worked for to earn my rent. I have had numerous car repairs and every time I come back to my apartment at night I hear the neighbors screaming at me “go home”. I think it’s a group of homeless, or close to destitute individuals who are grouping together, I dated one a men briefly who kept talking about how he enjoyed living with other people for the “comraderie” I told him I would find life absolutely worthless if I had to live with someone or have a room mate and he “broke up” with me immediately. He was criminal scum and tries to force me to say hello to him when i told him i didn’t want to talk to him again. There are a bunch of people that hang around the dumpster in a close neighboring apartment complex in a large parking lot and they scream and yell all night long. I have filed two police reports about this and the police never do anything, once at the police station I was yelled at and berated by a police employee behind the counter. My life has been completely wrecked and now I’m employed by a criminal scumbag who berates and insults me all day every day and now I won’t be able to find work again, this has wrecked my life completely. Gangsalking and workplace mobbing is real and it destroys lives of innocent people. Any ideas out there would be appreciated. I have contacted an attorney via e-mail and been insulted and berated, told to get counseling and that I was unstable, making me feel more powerless and furious. Any victims out there that want to talk please e-mail me.

      Comment by Lisa K — October 27, 2011 @ 1:53 pm

  5. Let me just add that the title of your piece “Gang stalking: Organized Confusion or Organized Crime” is accurate only in the sense that the victims are confused by these senseless attacks and not organized. The Gangstalkers that assault innocent victims are obviously organized criminals.

    Comment by Interesting Information — February 16, 2007 @ 1:14 am

  6. Confusion? I think it amounts to induced confusion through sick psychological attacks. Induced disfuntionality. They are pure scum. I have seen some of these scum, the4 organisers, which are fermented encrusted scum, as opposed to regular scum. They don’t like to be stood up to and call on what they do by the victim. If this happens they feel like they have been kicked around, and what they will do in retaliation is give the victim a real dirty tactic.

    Scum, pure scum. Demons, the sickest people walking the face of North America.

    Comment by dodo bird — February 18, 2007 @ 8:06 pm

  7. These gang stalker organizers should be implanted, and sent to the moon, without oxygen! They could terrorize moon rocks! Least they stay here murdering and torturing people. Hitler is rolling with envy in his grave as these stalking crews silently do their sick crap.

    http://dieoff.org/page24.htm

    Comment by dodo bird — February 19, 2007 @ 1:52 am

  8. link:
    http://www.hermes-press.com/brainwash1.htm

    Personality simulation systems are being used to create political campaigns that apply voter profiles to control their voting behavior. TV commercials and programs use personality simulation to profile viewers to control their purchasing and viewing behaviors. And sophisticated propaganda and brainwashing techniques are being used by the Bush junta to keep American citizens under control.

    best wishes,

    dodo bird, (watch over your head)

    Comment by dodo bird — February 19, 2007 @ 1:57 am

  9. link:
    http://www.hermes-press.com/brainwash1.htm

    Personality simulation systems are being used to create political campaigns that apply voter profiles to control their voting behavior. TV commercials and programs use personality simulation to profile viewers to control their purchasing and viewing behaviors. And sophisticated propaganda and brainwashing techniques are being used by the Bush junta to keep American citizens under control.
    http://www.hermes-press.com/brainwash1.htm

    best wishes,

    dodo bird

    Comment by dodo bird — February 19, 2007 @ 1:58 am

  10. dodo seems to be dropping a lot of crap.

    blogs

    Comment by AUTHOR — February 21, 2007 @ 11:32 pm

  11. This stuff is REAL. It’s been happening to me for nearly 25 years. I don’t know how or why I became a targeted individual. I am very ethical and my politics are left of center.

    The basics — frequent illegal entry, gaslighting, multiple stalking even when traveling great distances, slander campaigns, sensitizing, etc. are all phenomena I have experienced. It is as described by others on the ‘net.

    As an example of how you know you are being watched with earnest is as follows: I am Catholic. There are several churches in my community and masses held on Saturday evening, a couple on Saturday mornning and even a mass late Sunday evening. I am a single woman and would attend mass unattended by an escort. FOR YEARS, I would attempt to attend mass unharrassed by selecting masses at numerous churches and at numerous times. Without fail, I would be watched and stalked and harrassed no matter which church or which time. The harrassing activity would always involve two women slightly younger than me who would sit near me. I would always know these ladies were stalking me because, without fail, they would always place themselves near me and exchange that portion of the mass where Catholics shake each others’ hands and greet each other with the saying”Peace Be With You.” and then immediately leave — well before the mass was over. Now, it’s possible that this particular oddity of might happen a few times, but to have this happen numerous dozens of times. Well, you know you are being watched like a hawk. And the two young ladies would always be different each Sunday.

    I am a very strong and sane person. This phenomena is absolutely happening.

    Comment by Jada — February 22, 2007 @ 12:29 pm

  12. The Catholic Church is the culprit, it now comes to be. Or is this just another manifestation of the Catholic Bashing exhibited in Hollywood, sitcoms, and on college campuses or in hipster social circles (‘me too, I am a recovering Catholic’).

    Well, the Vatican, according to the internet, has done operations with the CIA, and perhaps the CIA and the vatican are part and partial to the Illuminati, or the masons. The skies the limits.

    This ‘peace be with you’, then leaving. I think young ladies attending mass together find commeradery in sneaking out at the opportune time. They have hit the mass, heard the sermon, thus fulfilling their obligation, one instilled since childhood, and simply want to head to the nearest diner and do what young ladies do, chit chat over coffee on a sunday morning, and perhaps ride out a hangover. I would not want to do communion with a hangover myself.

    Comment by author — February 27, 2007 @ 3:43 pm

  13. Hi, fellow gangstlkees,

    I had been stalked for 4 years in California. I subsequntly moved to San Antonio and for the past 4 years was left alone . I applied for a part time job and sent a request for proof of employment and a recommendation to my former employer and presto the gang stalkers showed up instead. So, know I am being stalked in San Antonio. I was told by a friend who became a stalker that bible based religions do the heavy lifting in the gang stalking and other groups who are involved are under the direction of the local ministers.

    Comment by Margaret Cone — March 4, 2007 @ 9:19 pm

  14. Below I have placed a few links which may lend much to this discussion, though have yet to really read them at length. Two hinges on culture of Catholics, the other is a bit in the direction of specialized conspiracy analysis.

    does the catholic culture and the instillation of false, or unneeded guilt leave modern Catholics with a stronger likelyhood to become alcoholics?

    Then we have Jesuit mind control.

    Ministers directing sadistic torture! This is very interesting indeed. I respect religion in the general sense, but corruption can be found wherever human beings are found, whether a buddhist monestery, a Jesuit order, a pizza, shop, a school district, corperate enterprise, government, family, nudist colony, flower people community. the human condition.

    http://www.seattleaa.org/stories/betty&dan_h.html

    http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula1chap.shtml

    http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/01/24/100403.php

    Comment by author — March 6, 2007 @ 11:12 pm

  15. Ministers directing sadistic acts of covert harassment!

    I can only say that, corruption exists wherever humankind is found, be it a buddist monestery, the Vatican, a school district, coperations, family, pizza shop, flower shop, school yard, prison, nudist colony, hippy community, government, charitable organization, on and on.

    The human condition is something generalized throughout the globe, and religious orders are no more inmune to corruption then businesses, or governments.

    So, I gather that your gang stalking was job related.

    Comment by author — March 6, 2007 @ 11:28 pm

  16. My gangstalking started as a result of a eviction. I evicted tenants that were part of a biblical based religion. I know who they are because in the beginning I offered to join them and they welcomed me with open arms.

    Margaret Cone

    Comment by Margaret Cone — March 11, 2007 @ 7:59 am

  17. I have been implanted by illuminati zionist demons. They are killing me, though a most heinous torture. They are sick mother fuckers. They have spent thousands of dollars on my torture. They have done some alteration of my alfactory nerve, and this was done when I was drugged unconscious. They use chemicals and electronic harassment to control my moods.

    They aim t cause me great pain. I believe in the political zionist connection to gang stalking, the sionists and illuminati are together, they control the media, and they are ushering in the NWO. they are satinists and sadists.

    Comment by anonymous target — March 31, 2007 @ 9:15 pm

  18. It is truly the end of civilization, as we have known it. I am a scientist, and I am under 24 hour surveillance.My person of contact, whom I am supposed to call, in threatening situations has vanished from the face of the Earth.
    I have had my bank account raided by the infamous “white card”, which is an all-white ATM card, with the exception of the usual magnetic strip. If a stalker puts it into the ATM adjacent to the one that you are using, it is capable of stealing all of your codes and money in every account that you have. My advice is to use ATMs, where there is only one machine. Immediately discontinue a transaction when a stalker places the white card in the ATM, adjacent to the one that you are using, in a multiple ATM situation …and remember…in thge end, no ATM will work, and if it does, whatever currency that it manages to spew forth will be worthless.
    This may well be the New World Order, the members of which include the likes of our own president and the European Council of Princes. All who indulge the NWO, beleive that the planet will only be able to sustain itself after 1/3 of the present population is gone.
    I could feel this coming, and I have been busy preparing.
    Take this advice with whatever amount of gravity you may choose, but when the 2 to 3 hour blackouts begin, on the hot late spring to early summer afternoons,and they begin to stretch on into the balmy evenings, it is time to head for the hills!
    Another Anonymous Target

    Comment by Artisan — April 5, 2007 @ 4:53 am

  19. I am a victim of mind control experimentation, gang stalking (covert harassment). I was first covertly harassed in 1990, after graduating university, at a place of employment, one where I lived with my co-workers. A cleaver plan was done to entice a friend of mine to take a job there, and hence leading him to suggest I should also go for a summer of extended work hours, plenty of overtime. In this place, the pervasive assault could be played out, because I worked and lived with the same people. Long hours would make it ideal for much stress and exhuastion to underlay the psychological harassment, leading to a paralysis both emotionally and psychologically. All was done in the gang stalkig/covert manner, where I would be discredited to my friend, afterwhich I would be stalked with psychological harassments that were to isolate me in a web. All the people I worked with and lived with were to do behavior that was to lead me to believe I was being suspected for a number of wrong doings. Pervasive psychological terror with only one concluding aim, my psychological paralysis. Years later, after the death of my father, my only parent alive, I was targeted more intesely, though through my entire life since 1990, I have had these gang stalking endeavors happen with co-workers every now and then. It was always activity aimed at causing me to feel I was either being tested or suspected for theft. This is how the gang stalkers, organised harassers, would work and nurture an anxiety disorder, one that I have lived with all my adult life, and one that was worked through covert harassment in 2000, and when I returned to school for graduate work in 2002. I have spent months in unneeded psychatric care and recovery services for the sole purpose of exercises in intense psychological harassment.

    I have been a practice tool for these operations, beginning maybe more then 20 years ago. Staged psychological stuff to make me react. I lived in one city simply for them to catch me and trap me in these skitss that would cause me to react with intended results.

    Synthetic telepahty is the suggestibility that is brought out with the scene that they stage in the environmnet. This is certain knowledge. This is how the tactics of psychological harassment work so well with targets of gang stalking.

    Comment by anonymous target — April 7, 2007 @ 3:23 pm

    • I am a victim too by a brother…he has access of my computers, phones and is gassing me .at my condo.
      please email me at jazzywriter@hotmail.com help!!!!

      Comment by andrea — October 15, 2011 @ 10:37 pm

  20. The psychological terror, which is highly planned by trained specialists, who are all very sick, should lead most people to understand that gang stalking is not simply about 1. groups following targets, using directed coversations peppered with personal information of the victims 2. a multitude of petty harassments everyday, such as ripped clothing, gaslighting, brighting, sabotage of property, appliances, etc. . The exercises of gang stalking are sick and demented planned assaults that are ongoing and carried out over days, and months, with other planned assaults being dreamt up for when the current one ends. These assaults will exploit many elements and aspects of the targets entire history, taking into consideration people known, likes and dislikes, jobs held, music/books/what the targets likes to eat, and more. You will be trashed for every like and dislike you have had, and a joke you’ve said will be turned into a character trait, and they will haunt you with terror about it. They shread your mind and bring terror to your soul, near 24 hours a day. They have their operatives troll about you in public venues, by your home, anywhere. They will use children , old people, anyone, in these sometimes sick tactics, and always terroristic assaults. There is a sick obsession within these perpetrators and the organizers, that is geared towards the creation of demented tactics to screw with a person’s mind. There is also an obession that is geared towards so many details of the target’s life, that it is unbelievable, but true. They will pick at your life as if a thousand scorpions were picking at your skin. As a male target they will do some very demented things to condition you to sexual topic, or just some disgusting elements that will be used to harass you, and of course they have already branded you as a child molester or rapist, some crazed lunatic, with slander.The attacks begin with ground level lifestyles, and eventually make their way up to horrific terror based themes that may included murder or rape. They will use trash bags, spills, and mops and buckets, in stratigic ways, everywhere you go, while your mind is raped by electronics or chemicals. These assaults will encompass coversations with friends, co-workers, that are directed to strategically use certain words in certain ways, that correlate with the overall assault and theme to bring the terror home to your mind. You will be isloated and will wonder what the hell is going on, ‘am I going crazy, why are all these people doing this to me”. They will make you feel you are suspect for theft, armed robbery, anything, and everywhere you go, store, diner, work, home, there will be people using language directed at you and complete with the directed themes. The attack will fit the definition of mean, cruel, and sick. Early on, they may first make the person feel that they have been targetted because they have not yet married and their siblings all have children, morgages, so the targetted person’s responsibilities were minimal comparatively (instillation of unreal guilt), but this instillation of guilt will broaden and hit every aspect of your lifestyle, from the jokes you told with friends, the clothing you prefer, your habits, and passions. You will be made to feel guilty for spending much time on say rock climbing, reading poetry and the like, and they will pound you with media that is to indictate ‘people are starving in the world, and your paaion is peotry, rock climbing, etc. If you have always prided yourself on buying organic, they will make you pay for that by harassing you with the opposite, making you feel that your passions are meaningless. If the target is married they will cause emotional distress through any number of methods (in work, or at home with nightly noise, ect), with the end result in marriage troubles, work related troubles (happened to me).

    Comment by anonymous reading — April 12, 2007 @ 11:16 pm

  21. I too have been a target since 2001. One day I woke up and every pervert within a fifty mile radius was taunting, teasing, torchuring, irritating, and manipulating me. No one believes me when I try to talk about it. At first, I thought I was doing something to bring this on myself, now I’m convinced it’s not me but them and their deviant minds. Sometimes I think they do it for profit. They get things for screwing people over, they’re rewarded. It’s like being in a cult and they’re praised for their bad behavior until they don’t know the difference from right & wrong. Some one told me I was responding wrong to them. I had to tell them to to go away and tell on them when they come around. I haven’t been successful.

    Comment by Nancy — April 22, 2007 @ 7:14 pm

  22. This is very true, gang stalking is real. I am a resident in the San Fernando Valley and many individuals are involved in this sick psychological attack against me. I have been harassed since 2004 and continue to be harassed by car brighting, street theater, electronic harassment, radio frequency harassment, noise campaigns and many other tactics. My neighbors who are truck drivers are heavily involved. These neighbors are involved in biker gangs and even a female sister of theirs is heavily involved. These neighbors are grown men and women along with other adult neighbors and children whom are also involved. I believe there has been a break in the structure of society, because of poverty and drugs, people have become easily convinced into taking part in this type of harassment by means of money and or rewards. I still have a hard time dealing with my horrible situation, but one thing is clear to me, that none of the stories that I have read regarding gang stalking seem far fetched. I have stalked into Mexico, by individuals whom looked like agents of some sort, with business suits, they were either actors to make be believe they were government agents or they were. On another occasion I was on a flight trying to flee to another state, there was a person on the plane behind me with a laptop, and I was having extreme headaches induced by some type of signals being sent to my brain and this man had a shirt imprinted with the name Navstar. Later when I looked up this name on the net, it is linked to satellite technology that works for the NSA. Coincidence, I believe not. There is certainly governmental entities, contractors, and even criminals in ones community involved, because in order to accomplish such an attack on an individual many individuals would have to work together to fulfill their agenda. All I know is that there is certainly something going on and I don’t believe it is for revenge. I believe it has something to do with the illuminate, secret society’s, and government. Whatever the reason it is a definate abuse of a persons right to freedom. I am sickened when I hear the national anthem, it seems like a sick joke. Too bad, that this country is bought and that we would never hear the real truth about anything that sheds negative light on our government about the tactics and technology abuse they conduct on their own citizens. I guess they have to experiment on someone, right, and who is going to want to be experimented on with such horrific technology, to be manipulated and made feel ill. Good luck to all victims living the same horrible reality.

    Comment by valley girl — May 22, 2007 @ 7:53 pm

  23. I am also a victim of gangstalking. My gang stalkers come in the form of pilots. I met one several years ago and he was with a crew in Chicago and in a pilot’s uniform. On August 28, 2005 at 2:15 a.m. after not hearing from him for over a year, he showed up and began knocking with a friend of his. They kept talking about how they need perfect women because they are pilots and how they deserve the best because they are pilots, etc., I ignored them and they went around the back of my apartment and began talking there loud enough for me to overhear. I ignored them again. After that they kept returning night after night until the night of September 23, 2005 at 3:00 a.m. in the morning when one entered my apartment and sexually assaulted me while the other was a lookout. After the assault, I didn’t think they would come back, but they did night after night. I finally moved in October after breaking my lease and I moved to another area of the City, but I was followed and every night between the hours of midnight and 5:00 a.m. Some nights they would enter my apartment and give me LSD. After the LSD took affect, I was thrown around the apartment and tortured by these people. Sometimes at night when I slept I would feel liquid in my ears or going down my throat, then I would lose track of time and everything would become a blur. I could still see the stalkers as they lifted me out of my bed and put me in the living room on the counter where they pushed me, shoved me, made fun of me, etc., I saw a couple of police officers that I recognized, but I could not defend myself or get to a phone. After they were done with me, they threw me back in the bed and left for the night. This happened on many occasions, so I broke my lease and left again. I moved into a building which I now believe to be mob owned and operated and they again gained access only to tear holes in clothes, break dishes and cups, kill my cat, kill my fish, give my cats medication so they would vomit, try on my clothes, leave dirt on the carpet, leave pee in the toilet and on the bathroom floor, put snot on my french doors, eat my food, drink my coffee, damage my new furniture, leave a fungus on my floor and in my shoes so I would get jungle rot, taint my food with Spanish fly, etc., After living in the apartment for two months, I was gang raped by these people. I reported to the police, but they did nothing and closed the case. The medical reports conflict with the police reports. In fact, the hospital was supportive, but the local police did nothing. The detectives who were assigned to my case where the same detectives who I had seen with the men who raped me. Well, I broke the lease and moved again after having my apartment ransacked. Now, almost two years later, I live in a vintage building in an area of the City that they hate. They are having a difficult time getting into my apartment when I sleep, but they use microwave and radio frequency to terrorize me at night. The claimed stews say they want everything in my apartment and they also claim to be felons. The claimed pilots say they are looking for women to sell into prostitution for other pilots on layover. This is a very sick and twisted plot these people have concocted. I have been ill on many occasions and the doctor recently found brain lesions that indicate MS–MS DOES NOT RUN IN MY FAMILY. Absolutely no family history of MS. I have suffered headaches and shortness of breath. I have gained weight and had diahrrea almost everyday. They have put blood in my cat’s feces and left behind unpleasant odors for me to suffer with day after day. When I went to work, I would come home to only to find out that the gang stalkers had obviously sat around my apartment all day enjoying themselves, coffee cups were out and coffee missing, etc. Day after day this happened. I want every victim to know they are not alone and I encourage you to keep fighting even though it may seem impossible to win. Do not give up your life for theirs–they are not worth it. Often these groups are brought together out of jealousy, anger and pure hatred. After listening to these people nightly, I am sure that these people hate the lives they have chosen for themselves and, in fact, wish they could have your life. Please keep believing in yourself. If you have an irrational thought stop and think for a moment because it may not be your thought, it may have been implanted there by a gang stalker. Negativity is what they implant. So if you are feeling negative in the morning, use your own mind to overcome the subliminal suggestion. Remove all electronic equipment from your sleeping area at night and find a way to block frequency through the microwave. This radiation can be dangerous to your health and they can manipulate you and your mind and your organs in many potentially dangerous ways. Please keep the faith and keep on going–do not let them push you to suicide. Hang on and hang in there.

    Comment by GMR — May 24, 2007 @ 7:46 pm

  24. I am a victim of microwave weaponry and gang stalking. I unlike so many have become use to the harassment and have a sense for piecing things together from the level of involvement to tactics used. If anyone who has fallen victim from the date of this comment, even 6 months after, if you require information or just someone you can trust to talk about it please email me and for heaven sake do not believe implants it is a device and specialist computer/software that omits frequencies to your mind that bypasses the ears as to the level your brain understands as sound. Your body can twitch, itch, burn, get aroused usually whilst threatening sexual acts and their aim is to have as much fun, power and get what they can from you before they try to push you into suicide. Feel free to chat or set up msn messenger or similar.
    Keep your head up and be strong. As long as you are alive and positive about the future like me then they will never win. pauly8008@hotmail.com

    Comment by Paul — May 27, 2007 @ 11:06 pm

  25. Yet another victim here. So far I’ve traced the harassment back to 1991. The very noticeable started in 2002. There was alot of directed conversation from co-workers. One night I was suggesting to my then-husband we go to an air-show. I went into work the next day and one of my coworkers came into work asking me what I was doing the weekend, and before I could answer he said “Well I know what I’m doing, I’m going to the air-show”.

    For my home computer screen-saver I put scrolling pictures of attractive men (celebrities). I go into work the next day and one of my co-workers has the same screen saver.

    I would tell my then-husband what was going on, but he would simply dismiss it or suggest I do something stupid, such as, search my entire office area for hidden cameras. Today I know the fucking bastard is a part of all of this.

    My car was sabotaged to the point of a blown-engine. I would take it in for routine maintenance and instead of maintaining it, they would drain the oil, and mess with the clutch. I ended up spending $700.00 to get the car back after deliberate damage by Chrysler. Overall I spent close to $10,000 in so-called repairs, only to have the engine blow.

    I was run off the road into a lane of oncoming traffic. Fortunately it was a turn lane and no one was turning.

    They would put frogs on my house steps every night. During the constant surveillance I’m sure they picked up my dislike for frogs, and decided to harass me with them.

    The broke and still do, appliance such as stereo equipment, electric toothbrushes, breadmaker, etc.

    They pick apart just about all of my clothes, at the seam. They would do the same to my son’s clothes and shoes.

    Just like an earlier poster stated, they take every single detail of your life and try to make you feel guilty about it. I enjoy dancing with my son (I’m not a great dance, but I really have fun doing it..in private). On several jobs co-workers would start talking about how so-and-so couldn’t dance, or how so-and-so danced around the apartment to Usher. It’s ridiculous even putting some of this stuff in words. I can’t believe the juvenility (if that’s a word) of some of it.

    Make no mistake though, it will drive you to the point of questioning your sanity, and/or suicide, especially when you don’t know what is really happening to you.

    Like the earlier poster I was questioning everything I had done that could possibly be questionable, nothing criminal, but if twisted and taken out of context, could suggest some wrong-doing. I probably did damage to myself trying to figure out what was really happening.

    Sometimes you feel absolutely drained. You do question your existence. You know the life you live is false. You’re a slave. Your freedom is no longer. Your dignity is stripped. I wonder what makes me go one everyday. Then I get mad and think to myself this way of thinking is exactly what the fuckers want, and I say HELL NO! I WILL NOT GIVE IN TO THIS PIG VOMIT (thanks Howard Stern).

    I’ve come to the conclusion, there is no left or right. Everyone is capable of evil and under the right circumstances will commit evil.

    Whatever it is that keeps us, targets going everyday, just keep doing it. DON’T LET THEM WIN!

    Comment by private — May 29, 2007 @ 6:19 am

  26. We all need to get together and talk to a t.v. program about having this topic discussed. This needs to be made public quickly. No one needs to suffer in silence alone. America is a great country and we deserve our freedom. No degenerate should be able to take that from anyone of us. Stay strong and know that all of you are supported!

    Comment by GMR — May 29, 2007 @ 2:45 pm

  27. Also, if you love this country, keep on loving it. They are hoping that you will turn against it and they manipulate you in such a way that you will turn on everything you loved in life. After they turn you away from your memories, life and beliefs, they will do their best to mold you in their shape. Do not lose your love for this country or anyone you ever loved in your life–they are counting on that to stop you from being who you are. Keep going and remember, they are sick, not you. You have pleasant memories and a life, they DO NOT. Hang on and stay strong. Contact other victims and unite!

    Comment by GMR — May 29, 2007 @ 3:37 pm

  28. I had another night with my gang stalkers. They are talking about getting their victims to commit murder or suicide. The reason these groups do their best to force people into a mental institution is because, from listening to their conversations, many of the gang stalkers themselves were in institutions prior to their release to the head of the heirarchy. From what I listened to last night via electronic harassment is that they want to take over our world of normalcy. They feel they have been cheated in life and they feel they deserve to have our lives. Do not give in to their tactics. They are sick, demented individuals with extreme sexual deviance. My group has many hermaphadites who feel that God and society did them wrong. This group stalking me also claims they are against this country, our flag and God. They believe in the degradation of women and do not believe women should hold good financial positions. They claim they have Al Qaeda links. My group of stalkers is a group of white men who wear pilot uniforms. I have seen them and would recognize them in a police line up if only the police would file the correct reports or the reports would not mysteriously disappear. I am a good American citizen and I plan to stay that way. I encourage everyone under this torture to continue believing in everything you believe in. Do not let them sway you from your life or your country. These people lost in life and now they are hoping you will lose also. Do not give in. Continue to believe in yourself and our country. God Bless America!

    Comment by GMR — June 6, 2007 @ 3:09 pm

  29. I am writing to let people know I have found to other people in my local area whom are targets of gang stalking and electronic harassment in the San Fernando Valley. One of the victims claims many individuals whom work at Sam’s club in sylmar and Walmart are involved. It is strange because I also believe there are individuals whom work for wal-mart involved in my gang stalking. I am currently studying law and in the future I will certainly be representing victims against whomever is involved in these attacks. I have pursued this career because it is the only way to get justice. San Fernando Valley is full of gang stalkers!!!!!!!!!!! Strangely I have seen low life individuals and even Older women involved in gang stalking. Grandma and Grandpa stalkers it is sad, I guess the economy is that bad, that individuals would have to fall to such desperate measures to make a living. Our government is currupt sadly, it is no wonder that so many countries hate the united states and believe that this country is evil. I wish that we would have a president that would rid these rouge elements out of our government. I guess that is something to hope for. Good luck to the victims out there suffering from governmental abuses to keep the economy going.

    Comment by valley girl — June 7, 2007 @ 9:55 pm

  30. I too am a victim of these evil things,many of us are organizing to end this.Some have met with congressional representatives.Please visit this site if you have not already done so.
    http://www.freedomfchs.com/index.html

    Comment by Randy — June 8, 2007 @ 3:56 pm

  31. I have been an unwitting victim of very blatant covert harassments, mind control abuse, and mental abuse campaigns for almost ten years now, non stop. it has destroyed me as a person almost totally. For me, thanks to all of these cruel set ups, I see life and living as just a terrible chore of which I see no purpose anymore. I am dead inside 100%. I see through all the facades and lies of everyone, and I have been used up totally by all whom I once thought i could “trust” or who were “friends.” I see that trust is just a b.s. game of lies and attention. Life is a game and most people are obedient sheep players, looking for a leader so that they do not have to do the thinking and research themselves. Mentally lazy people make me want to puke. I have no tolerance for dumb asses.

    I know exactly when and where my personal abuses, harassments, and cause stalking started, and even by whom. It has almost totally destroyed me. I can 100% guarantee anyone who wants to challenge me on this real situation that I am correct in my observations and knowledge of what has very unfairly happened to me over the years. It has become impossible to defend myself from something of which I have no power to stop. My life has turned into a mockery and a joke.

    In my personal situation, it has to do with huge amounts of money, stocks, an inheritance, lies, set ups, signed entertainment release forms, being filmed on cameras, false promises, jealous ex friends, ex lovers, the internet,certain racial themed issues, blatantly obvious bogus medical diagnosises, numbskull psychiartrists, perverted jewish/greedy men, and family lies and control over my life, my money, and future. All of which has led to daily cruel set ups and harassments that I am forced to have to deal with and respond to. This is not to mention the 24/7 ILLEGAL surveillance small cameras that has been set up in each and every apt. I have lived in since at least 1997.

    I have tried and tried to get it this to stop, and to no avail. I know that there are several jerks who have made huge profits off my life, my story, my effrots, ect., and tbese people owe me big time, and they owe me right now.

    When I try to seek legal help, I am ignored by all and am not taken seriously. No lawyer will dare take my case as this issue is too real, too sensitive, and too covert. Also, the most sick and pathetic part of this is that my own mother and other members of my “family” are highly involved, but could care less about how it has ruined me. All they care about is money, control lying, and hurting/labeling people like myself or anyone else whom they see as unfit. Yet I am no fool to not see what is happening around me. it is awful. I see how shallow, stupid, and desperate for attention most people are, and it makes me sick. For me, this is a huge burden. Often I secretly wish that a nuclear bomb would just destroy all of humanity. WHy? Due to how I have personally treated, used, harassed, and the non stop lies I have been told, I will NEVER trust another human again. People suck. I am too smart for the majority of these transparent dumb asses, and they are all so confused, and are constantly waiting to see my next reaction and move. They use me as their mentor and teacher because I am smart. But I owe not one of them a damn thing.

    It has been awful. I have no privacy. It is impossible to have and keep relationships. My phone, computer, car, ect. ect. have been bugged. Do you know what it feels like to have your ENTIRE life, art, creativity, and original ideas stolen from you? By a bunch of sadistic, sick strangers who are making profit? I can no longer trust one single person, nor do I really like anyone or want to get to know anyone. I abhor most people and see them as the shallow scum they are.

    The most aggrivating part for me is that no matter where I live, travel to, or go, I am forced to deal with the neighbors and others who are obviously placed in places and the apts. next door to me to constanlty gather information and harass me. These idiots who are obviously in on the cause stalking and harassments campaigns against me. When you have absolutely no privacy, and every damn thing you do is monitored 24/7, it is impossible to have anything that compares to a “normal” life. I wish I could say that this is all a huge nightmate, but unfortunately for me, it is all very real.

    Comment by L.B. — June 9, 2007 @ 5:18 am

  32. To L.B. and other victims,
    Do not let these gang stalkers destroy your reality. I know what you are going through because I am a victim aswell. However since 2004 that I have been stalked and harassed electronically I have learned that these people involved in this sick abuse against me, love to see that they have destroyed your outlook on life. Do not let them fool you into thinking that everyone is in on this sick game of there’s, everyone is not in on it. There are some wonderful people still left in the world. I have lost many friends to this sick gang stalking society, however my real friends have not been approached to be involved. This is because they know there class of people, people whom would be involved in this type of sick psychological abuse. Find people whom are like you and that have moral values and you will find people you can trust. I understand your frustration and empathize with what you are going through. However, dont give up, you are meant to live a wonderful life and dont question why you are alive. I get frustrated too, but dont dwell on your circumstancing do something to move ahead toward a solution. This is why I have chosen to pursue my degree in psychology and continue on to law school. Keeping busy also helps with being able to deal with the Electronic harassment. It is more difficult for me when I stay home, like while on vacation from school, I feel that the electronic harassment attacks on me are stronger to make you feel ill and not be able to get anything done. I fignt these attacks with vitamins, b-12, tauramine, and lots of water. Exercising helps re-leave the stress from the electronic attacks. The San Fernando Valley is full of gang stalkers whom all share a single agenda and that is to harass and abuse people whom they feel or perceive to be different from them. The reason why these people are picked to be involved in gang stalking is because they are easily manipulated and have a sheep mentality. Basically they do what they are told. Although there is much more that we do not know on why people are picked for gangstalking, the phenomenon is growing and sooner or later peoples demands of the government about this type of abuse will have to be answered. I want to be a part of that in the future. I want to bring change to peoples rights and that is what I am focusing on. I pray that you L.B. and others take a real look at the way you are taking your circumstances and reevaluate it. The change for me occured when I seen A gentleman in a store I worked at that had turret syndrome and he was not in control of any of his body movements and or self, as much as he tried to be in control he could not stop twitching and flinging his arms. I felt so bad that day for waking up with the mentality that no one had it worse than me, not to say that it is not bad the horrible abuse that I have been put through and endure. So try and look at your circumstances in a different way, if you change your outlook on things, things will get better. I pray that one day all the gang stalking victims and Electronic harassment victims will find justice in this country that we call the land of the free……………….

    Comment by valley girl — June 12, 2007 @ 2:37 am

  33. I live in a small town,these tactics are being used here through companies to steel money.Large sums of money.The money is funneled out of town,out of the county,and out of the state.And yes some of it is spent out of the country to support terrorist cells like through Chiquita.The locals use the tactics to support their own terrorist cells.

    Comment by Greenstuff — June 12, 2007 @ 2:10 pm

  34. If you are being monitored electronically there are some things you can do to stop V2Skull, etc., especially during the hours of the night when you sleep. What I do now is unplug the microwave. I store my cellphone between my mattresses and I also remove batteries and unplug all other electrical equipment in the house that the sickos can use for signal frequency. I have also lined my ceiling with aluminum foil, shiny side towards the ceiling to deflect the incoming noise. This has dulled the communication and made the gang stalkers work harder to get through to me. I have heard them complain that they are no longer using my electricity for the signal, but now they are paying for it which is a major turn off for them. Unplug and unbattery everything every night, including your t.v., computer, etc. I know this sounds extreme, but you will begin sleeping normally again. I actually put my lap top in the unplugged microwave at night so they do not use the battery to signal. This is really pissing these guys off! They used to use my cellphone and every morning the battery was totally drained, so I sleep with it between my mattresses and they can’t get the signal from the cellphone anymore. Another thing these people claim to hate is this country, so if you are proud of American let it show, do not let them sway you against this country because that is what they want. Don’t stop talking to people, if you do they will isolate you. I do suggest however that you be very careful about new people in your life because sometimes they pursue you when they know you are alone and isolated. These people are sick, not you. I actually had a good nights sleep last night after putting up the aluminum foil on the ceiling. My head does not hurt and I do not feel the false depression of V2Skull communication anymore. Hang in there and do not give in–these people are in pain, angry, frustrated, lonely and pathetic. Hang on and let’s keep this the land of the free….

    Comment by GMR — June 13, 2007 @ 3:52 pm

  35. I read a post from a scientist above and I just want him to know that the group I am dealing with is talking about the New World Order also. They talk about a new regime coming in where everyone has sex with everyone, there is no debt, no jobs, women don’t need money, and appearances are changed to accommodate the group. I just want him and everyone to know that they are not alone in this and that these people are sick.

    Comment by GMR — June 13, 2007 @ 8:27 pm

  36. UNITED STATES CODE

    TITLE 18, PART 1, CHAPTER 13, SECTION 241 Conspiracy Against Rights

    If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or
    If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—
    They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

    TITLE 18, PART 1, CHAPTER 13 SECTION 242 Deprivation of Rights under Color of Law

    Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

    All law enforcement personnel are subject to these laws & the Constitution, & can be held liable for unequal application of the law.

    Comment by TLB — June 16, 2007 @ 6:08 am

  37. I spent another night listening to my gang stalkers. They refer to me as Sleeping Beauty. Can anyone tell me what this means in mind control? Thank you…

    Comment by GMR — June 22, 2007 @ 7:07 pm

  38. Hi GMR,
    Try not to concentrate on what they are sending you in the messages. I use to do that, and it was really making me more upset and I had to stop listening and concentrating to the talking and voice to skull. I no longer pay attention nor hear or try to hear. I do have extreme headaches, but I try to ignore the harassment. It can be very hard, but you can do it. Stay strong, I will pray for you that God keep you safe and give you comfort. Question: what state do you live in? I live in california and this was occuring in every state I tried moving too, from oklahoma, North carolina, Ensenada Mexico. It is really strange that there are that many sick individuals taking part in this type of abuse everywhere. This can not be revenge it is bigger than just that, they would like you to believe it is revenge, but it is not. Don’t ever believe you are chipped or have implants its all technology based by computers and radio, emf, and light waves. No one needs to be chipped to follow you around, if they have your cell phone number that is all they need. Good luck……………
    Stay strong

    Comment by valley girl — June 29, 2007 @ 5:43 am

  39. Valley Girl, thanks for the answer, however, I did look it up. Project Sleeping Beauty was instilled sometime ago and it is a mind control program designed to send you subliminal thoughts to get you into prostitution. I guess it was used by higher ups sometime ago and it has been revealed in an article I found called “Stepford Whores”. I think alot of these people are coming out of the airlines. They have easy access to transportation, money, hotels, and above all equipment that allows V2Skull. They keep trying to program me to sleep with pilots on layover. They are very sexually explicit and really disgusting. They try to instill the revenge thing in me also, but I do not buy it. What is is extreme anger, hatred and jealousy. I know exactly who my stalkers are and have told them to meet me by day–they won’t because they are afraid that is why they use V2skull because they are cowards. If you move, they will move with you, I have moved 4 times in the last two years. They used to get into my apartment at night, drug me and abuse me. I put a stop to it when I moved into this apartment because I am on the 4th floor and I have a small entry way that I block successfully. These people are disgusting and I have been sexually assaulted more than once. We need to band together and find a way to put an end to this kind of harassment. It is sick. I have unplugged my microwave because I was getting hit with radiation nightly. Now I am not. I also read that if you leave several strong radio stations on this will interfere with their signal. Last night I left my t.v. and radio on, but I turned down the volume. This disrupted them tremendously. Tonight I am buying another radio and will leave all three on. I will keep fighting and have no intention of giving up because these people are losers. I live in Chicago, Illinois. The airline people who are following me have easy access to money and transportation. It must be a network of people who can move around easily. Now that I am blocking their signal, I am sleeping better and no longer afraid of them entering my apartment like they used to. They are sick and dirty people. I know this group engages in group sex with multiple partners, etc. I will pray for you too. They have told me to denounce God and I simply will not do it. No matter how long they pursue me, I will never give in to them. Stay strong and I will be watching for more of your posts. Thank you, GMR

    Comment by GMR — June 29, 2007 @ 5:59 pm

  40. Everyone, here is a website I found that helps with the blocking of mind conrol v2K signals. http://montalk.net/conspiracy/55/how-to-block-microwave-mind-programming-signals I found it to help tremendously. I am praying for and support all of you who are being terrorize unnecessarily. Stay Strong and know you are not alone and you are supported.

    Comment by GMR — June 29, 2007 @ 6:06 pm

  41. Read the comment on this page.

    http://arkansas.indymedia.org/mod/comments/display/21124/index.php

    Comment by TJ — June 30, 2007 @ 6:07 pm

  42. Well, I have learned so much more about my gang stalkers. For instance, last night I learned that the low-levels in the group are on anti-depressants and suffer from psychological problems themseleves. I have also learned that they totally rely on the richer top of the hierarchy for surivial including meals and a place to sleep. They have no possessions or belongings, etc. They don’t even have regular jobs and have had to prostitute themselves to the higher level in the hierarchy in exchange for daily basics.

    Well, I guess we can understand why some of us are being gang stalked and our belongings taken away. It makes sense that these people who are miserable only want us to be miserable in the same way they are (e.g., no money, psychiatric illness, physical illness, social ineptness, no money, no jobs, no true love or friendship in their lives, etc.) After listening to these people I realize the only reason they spread misery is because they are miserable themselves. It is not us who need mental institutions, it is the gang stalkers…

    Comment by GMR — July 17, 2007 @ 10:21 pm

  43. Well, another night with the claimed AA gang stalkers. These guys just don’t give up. I guess once they gang rape a woman you belong to their stew pool. Every night these guys tell me I am going to go to the “galley” and that “galley” girls have sex and extreme perverted acts with the pilots whether they like it or not. When I was gang raped by this group, they claimed that they had to get my vagina ready for sex, so they raped me until I tore. Once that happened they said it would toughen me up for future sex acts with multiple partners. If these guys want to use V2S to recruit a piece of tail, they need to get a life. If you are being pressured to give up your job or leave your industry, do not listen, these people are just trying to turn you against what is familiar to you so you will leave and fall into their trap. I know who my gang stalkers are and believe me they lack perfection even though they demand it of others. This group wants women to get plastic surgery, etc., and then stand around for a gang bang. They claim they are looking for clean women. How sick is that? It is a sad day when men in their 50s, etc., don’t know enough about women to even get sex without rape and V2S communication. This is all I hear about every night, sex, sex, sex….. They also talk about “poking me in the eye” which is a term for sex because according to them you have a center eye near your belly button. Imagine listening to a bunch of grown men talk about sex in such a childish manner–no wonder they are gang stalking to get women. Loser tactic for loser people.

    Comment by GMR — July 18, 2007 @ 6:28 pm

  44. The gang stalkers arrived again. This time they said they are the CIA. I know they are not and they are not our government. My gang stalkers are a group of claimed AA pilots who are Osama Bin Laden and Taliban sympathizers. They want their victims to believe they are the government so we will turn against the U.S. governement and fall into a trap. They say they Al Qaeda are planning another hit, but they first need to destroy the psychological state of our country so we will fall apart. I am not falling for these people. I am going to stand strong and stand by this country. Every night I listen to this terrorists who use V2S and other means to torture me. These people are sick and I hope soon they are found and put in jail or executed. Someone named Jonnie Goodwin has been coming on and also someone named Sterling. If these are pilots they need to be found asap and questioned. They are treasonous and dangerous. Sick.

    Comment by GMR — July 19, 2007 @ 2:59 pm

  45. Have we all gone mad?
    There is too much here for me to dismiss this; as these circumstances (as described), are occurring in my life also, but as a 3rd year psychology major at a major university, I can’t help but wonder if all of us haven’t gone delusional…
    Where do we turn to find the truth?
    I’m genuinely scared, and confused.
    And I’m afraid that I’m truly losing my mind…

    Comment by perplexed — August 21, 2007 @ 7:58 pm

  46. I think that perhaps one of the common denominators may be if we speak openly against the policies of our respective governments.
    I’m not POSITIVE about this, but in my case, it MAY be what precipitated the absolutely unbelievable series of events in my life that ultimately led to my ending up in a homeless shelter, with everyone that I know essentially abandoning me.
    I’m NOT a bad guy, I honestly was an honor student at a major university in the psychology department, with my professors treating me more as a colleague than as a student.
    I have treated everyone that I’ve known with dignity and respect.
    And yet, my life is a complete wreck. And the circumstances of my life so resemble the stories that I’ve heard about “gang stalking” that I can’t help but wonder if this is what is happening to me…

    Lord Jesus, please help me; for I fear I’m losing my hold on reality…
    I don’t know what is real or delusion anymore.
    I don’t know who to trust anymore.
    I don’t know what’s real anymore.

    Comment by perplexed — August 21, 2007 @ 8:20 pm

  47. Perplexed, I read your post and I think one of the reasons you were targets is that you were an honor student at a major university, you are not a bad guy and you have treated everyone with dignity and respect. I attended and graduated from a major university, am not a bad person and also treated everyone with dignity and respect. I have suffered v2k and my gang stalkers have told me these are all the qualities that got me in trouble with them. Don’t forget these people are really angry and have no lives other than standing around and drown in their negativity. You were probably spotted and it was probably more than apparent that you were a happy guy. I can tell you that some of my gang stalkers are extremely low-level and the ones that work hate their jobs and have even been passed by for promotions. These failures have a hard time watching other people fitting in and excelling in life. Do your best to get back on track, I know you can. It sounds like you are definitely a gang stalking victim; homelessness is also an end result of gang stalking. There is a website titled “Freedom from Covert Harassment”. When I found that website, it really opened a lot of doors for me. I participate in conference calls and am a contact for other TI’s. Read it over and possibly you too can become a contact. A support group is very important when it comes to gang stalking. Gang stalkers isolate. The main thing to remember about gang stalkers is that while they are torturing you, they are being tortured themselves. They live in darkness everyday, are social rejects, socially inept and cannot survive mentally, emotionally, spiritually or even sexually without their gang stalking group. Some are felons who will never have a better job and who will perform sexual favors to maintain a basic roof over their heads and three square meals a day. Envy and wanting a better life also drives gang stalkers to stalk. Isolation is part of their tactic. Once you are isolated, they have you where they want you. Do your best to remain rationale in public so you do not lose your credibility. Do not allow them to label you with a mental illness. Search the web and you will find answers about your current position. Good luck. I am still be stalked but I have made it so far and I know you can too. These people are not worth a dime, so please remember that when you feel down and out. You can find your way back to employment and your studies. Hang on and know that you are supported.

    Comment by GMR — August 22, 2007 @ 5:55 pm

  48. I am glad to hear positive and motivating words being given to other Ti’s. It is funny that you say that you were not a bad person and in college. I fit that bill to a T. You know what else is funny that most of the Ti’s in my area were also college students at the time of the onset of the electronic harassment. Perhaps there is some connection with college and becoming a target of this gang stalking group. However, in my case I was friendly with all the wrong people and some how all these people I was associating with were turned against me and became my gang stalkers after meeting someone I did not know over the Internet at a dating site called, yahoo personals. I still am somewhat confused about how this can be accomplished. Nevertheless, I still believe that there is more to it, I do not believe it is only revenge, but has government experimentation through contractors involved. What I think is that these contractors who initially pick the target, pick them because they are the kind of person that stand out among the rest of society. Targets are usually intelligent, good looking, respectful, and different, for this reason perhaps the targets are easier to hate because they are successful and well liked. I believe that in my case, this is exactly what happened. Nevertheless I continue going to college, attending church, hanging out with the friends that have been their since I was a teenager and spending time with my daughter. I try not to let the electronic harassment slow me down. Although,my family and friends make lots of comments that I do not look well. They often say my eyes look very tired and sad, especially when I have just awoken. I would like to know if other victims awake with this feeling of numbness like if the blood is not circulating in your body, because this is what I feel. Also, if you have any marks on your body? I wake with red lines on my shoulders and arms alot and swelling around my lips frequently when I awake. I definitely know that it is emf harassment and Rf harassment in my case. I am hoping that at some point I will be able to move to a better area, where my neighbors will have money and not have to be involved in these types of organized crimes in order to sustain themselves and families with such heinous crimes.
    Well hope to hear some good comments.

    Comment by valley girl — September 2, 2007 @ 12:04 am

  49. Valley girl, it will not matter if you move; I have moved 4 times in the last two years and they will follow you. These people have too much time on their hands and have 24/7 to stalk. If you are looking run down that is because they are trying to make you look that way. I know some of the female gang stalkers in my group are just thrilled when they take a pretty woman and make her look like rundown. I have seen my female gang stalkers and I have heard them talk through v2K and I have found out that some are hermaphadites, suffer from anxiety and depression, take medication, have no real source of income or support, and have bulimia [sp] among other ailments. I believe that is why they stay focused on erroding the TI’s health.

    If you are feeling heavy in the morning it is probably because you are getting burned with the microwave. Please unplug your microwave and remove the t.v. from your room when you sleep. I was suffering from microwave mind control/burn and I figured it out and immediattely unplugged the micro. Now I don’t get microwave burn anymore while I sleep and I get a decent night’s sleep inbetween their pranks and jokes. My group talks about the anti-christ, the NWO and Osama Bin Laden. They claim that soon the world will be theirs. Make sure you are not being drugged at night. My stalkers use LSD and GHB and often put it on plates or glasses they think you will drink from when you are home. If you suffer V2K, you can interfere with their signal by playing several radios on strong stations while you sleep or leaving the t.v. on. This will not cut them out, but their frequency will weaken. Also try a mylar blanket. It sounds like you are being zapped. They will deplete you and your health until they put you in the ground. Their intention is to destroy you and end life. Take vitamins this will help replenish you. Also, visit the Freedom from Covert Harassment website. This website gives TI great information and will list others who are victims to support you. Also begin writing your congressmen. I was videotaped and will be presented in a congressional hearing next week. I am also recording a radio talk show tonight. Please get actively involved with other TIs. It is imperative to your survival. The top of the gang stalking hierarchy usually has money so living in a nicer area will not change anything; I have done it. They do follow victims. Often these groups are against college students and/or graduates. They do not promote school, in fact, some of the lower level heirarchy can not read a magazine article; the ones at the top however are a different story. Some of these groups look to make prostitutes out of men and women, so be careful. If you are having trouble sleeping check yourself into a hotel once in awhile but do it on the spur of the moment.

    I hope this information helps you. Hang in there. You are not alone and I have found that since the inception of my gang stalking more and more cases and information are becoming available. Don’t be afraid to reach out and find other TIs.

    Comment by GMR — September 5, 2007 @ 9:39 pm

  50. Well, I finally found out a little more about my gang stalking case. It appears that my particular group is a murder for hire situation. My gang stalkers are claiming through V2K that they were jilted by a law firm I worked for l0 years ago and because they lost money they are now taking revenge on the employees. I have been told that they have murdered a woman who worked in HR and that they have hurt several other employees and that my name was next on the list. These people are claiming that 92 more people are going to get hurt. They claim they want their money back and they are going to torture me until the company gives it to them. The claimed AA and Continental pilots are snotty, little spoiled brats. Even though they are blaming it on the lawyers, I personally think that the reason they may have lost their money is because they were just bad clients. Obviously, if they are stalking and raping women/former employees of this company, they are bullys with no credibility. Anyone who was a professional business owner would have found another way to deal with the loss. Imagine a group of sexually frustrated airline pilots stalking and raping women because they are angry a business deal went wrong. Obviously, these are not intelligent businessmen because if they were they would be able to deal with the matter in another way. Perhaps, if they were unhappy they should have retained another lawyer to represent them or to appeal the case. If you could see the men that assaulted me, you would vomit. I heard one claimed AA pilot say that a rape victim had more sex than he did in his whole life. What does that tell us? These men are sexually deviant and as far as men go, they are sexually deprived of female companionship. Murder is a very serious crime and with electromagnetic weaponry it is virtually undetectable.

    My father died several months ago of heart failure and they are now claiming they killed him with their electromagnetic weaponry. I don’t know for sure if they did, but I would not doubt it.

    If you are being gang stalked and don’t know the reason, please consider revenge as an option. It is possible that you may have worked for a company where a client felt they were somehow jilted. It is sick, I know, but it does happen. These guys are trying to get me to sleep with them on an on-going basis; they say I have a debt to pay to some guy claiming to be Tony Accardo, Jr. because of this past employment situation. Can you imagine having men who raped you as a bed partner? These guys are sick and really need to stay with $20.00 whores and trash to which they are accustomed.

    I don’t really know if what they are telling me about the former employment is true, but I guess if it is it would make more sense than having no reason.

    Comment by GMR — September 27, 2007 @ 9:33 pm

  51. Another night with the gang stalking claimed AA and Continental pilots and their stew sluts. I have learned so much about my perps. First, the stew broads on the bottom are girls who can’t hold down jobs, are on various forms of medication, vomit their food, and have no emotional or mental capabilities past going to the bathroom. Last night I arrived home only to find more items stolen from my apartment. These girls are trash. They spent their life on their knees and screwing pilots in hopes they would marry them, but when that did not happen they decided they wanted a better life. In otherwords, the gang stalkers want our lives. They want thing out of your apartment because they will never get jobs. They are born losers who never paid attention to their lives until was too late. When I was gang raped by these pigs, I actually saw the stew broad named Julie bend over and take on at least 20 pilots while videotaped. Imagine having to watch a bunch of pigs after you have been raped have three minute premature ejaculatory sex with a hermaphadite stew named Julie who proudly lifted her skirt to reveal her genitals to me. (Nothing against hermaphadites) Julie is a true hermaphadite, she has a pubsecent penis and scrotum, with an overstretched vagina that an elephant could penetrate. She has no breasts and has a hatred for women that is unbelievable, so she helps these pilots rape and rope girls into a sex ring for some loser claiming he is Tony Accardo, Jr. Julie keeps trying to get me to live with her. She is a pig who thinks abortion is a way to “clean out a woman”. Sick. I know who these people are and I have written to Gerard Arpey, the CEO of American and still nothing has been done. I guess gang stalking is approved in the airline industry.

    Comment by GMR — September 28, 2007 @ 3:01 pm

  52. Wow. A week ago, I thought maybe me and Carson and Donna were the only people to ever be gangstalked….

    Now, I know there is a word for it and I might be feeling stronger.

    Comment by Anita — September 29, 2007 @ 2:44 am

  53. Feeling stronger is a good thing, but your perps will hate you for it. Keep looking for the positive. There is a radio station on the web called theedgeam.com There is a woman who gave an interview on 9/6/2007 on her gang stalking experience. It is her hope that other victims will hear this and not be afraid to come forward and get the help they need and deserve in order to escape these monsters.

    Comment by MSS — October 3, 2007 @ 9:09 pm

  54. It was liberating to me to find out that there was a name for what has been happening to me and my family. I am in jeopardy of losing my career, my house, my good name, and my earnings. It is unbelievable. This is almost the perfect crime. To anyone going through this: protect yourself. Be strong. And remember, there is no perfect crime! I’ll be fighting this thing for us all.
    Barbara

    Comment by Barbara — October 19, 2007 @ 12:34 pm

  55. Barbara, gang stalkers drive people into the ground. They want you to lose your house, your good name, your earnings and so much more. I suggest you get to a support group asap. Look up the Freedom from Covert Harassment and Surveillance website. It is growing in strength and number. They have many, many targeted individual support groups and nationwide conference calls. DO NOT LET THESE PEOPLE ISOLATE YOU. Once they have you financial broke and isolated, they can cause you to commit suicide or get you into a prostitution ring. Also, check out theedgeam.com This radio station has a news correspondent reporting on gang stalking matters. Last Thursday, there she interviewed a victim from the Washington, D.C., area. She is also a victim of severe gang stalking, including physical gang rape. I will caution you–if you are suffering home invasion, please be careful. Sometimes, the home invasion is used to unnerve you. If they enter while you are out, they will enter while you are at home. Make sure your doors and windows are sufficiently barred. If you have money to install video cameras, I suggest you do it immediately. These people use drugs and can drop something on your tongue while you sleep. Also, remove your microwave from your home. If you are being zapped this will cutdown on the zapping. I did it and I am no longer being zapped. The output device on the microwave is what they usually signal to use radiation on your brain and zapping techniques. Good luck and contact Freedom from Covert Harassment and Surveillance asap and you will have great support to keep you going during this difficult time. Do not give in to these perpetrators.

    Comment by MSS — November 2, 2007 @ 6:03 pm

  56. I have been assaulted for many years in most believable *earthly* ways described by many on the net. I have found no relationship to unplugging anything or removing a microwave oven or any other appliance. If you have been fooled into believing that by the “mind control/gangstalking perverts”, then I need to let you know that there is not a way to support such a claim. If anything, unplugging part of the electrical grid may provide a more clear path for artificial microwave sound projection. After they know you removed your microwave they could have simply stopped electronic attacks to “convince” you of this. It is the kind of thing they might do, as if there isn’t anything they wouldn’t do.

    And MSS, you sound and write very much like GMR, the same woman who gave the interview on theedgeam.com. A little self promotion, or maybe something else?

    Comment by Bob64 — November 4, 2007 @ 12:38 am

  57. All of the symptoms concerning microwaves and dream attacks…couldn’t they all be induced by LSD after a day of being followed around by annoying stalkers? LSD isn’t the only possibility, several drugs would probably do it, and it would be much easier to put a victim in a paranoid state, then drug him or her. The CIA used to do it to see what would happen, they finally got their little LSD parties shut down after they decided it would be fun to spike the punch bowl at some hoity-toity reception.

    Now, the only time so far I’ve worried about being physically tampered with is the pizza guy incident. I ordered pizza, happened to glance into this delivery guy’s eyes, and immediately thought, “Wow, seriel killer eyes, scary.” I eat some pizza, and luckily, no one in the house wanted any. Couple days later, I’m sick. And then sicker. And I stayed sick. And I’m wandering around work in a miserable haze, trying to figure out who gave me this nasty bug, and this guy looks at me and goes, ‘it was something you ate’, and I thought about pizza psycho guy. And that was over a month ago. I’m still sick.

    So here’s my plan to keep myself out of the nuthouse: If I can’t prove it, it didn’t happen. Once I prove it to my own satisfaction (this includes not trusting to memory anymore but writing plate numbers and car makes and models down to double check later), I have to videotape it or similar to prove it to someone else. And if I worry something I eat is making me sick, I’ll squirrel away samples of other foods I didn’t see go from sealed package down my throat without interruption. Then I’ll take them over to a friend at the hospital and see if I can get some proof through lab tests.

    Good luck to all, protect yourselves, and remember, the idea is to drive you nuts or make others think you’re nuts, so some of the more outlandish incidents might have a simpler cause than fancy equipment. Drugs are so much easier, and so well known, and by the way, LSD and similar won’t stay in the system long, so getting that checked out as proof might not work.

    Comment by LouJones — November 7, 2007 @ 10:01 am

  58. The electronic weapon assaults are real and I’d say almost common knowledge now. They are radio and acoustic frequency and other electromagnetic devices. The voice projection has been demonstrated at least a couple different ways, one of them said to be microwave based. They have many types of chemical agents, drugs and poisons including LSD. PCP causes vivid dreams. OP pesticide causes diarrhea. That could account for the “liquefied bowels” attributed to an electronic attack I’ve heard about. They also have some biological tricks to make you sick too. I’ve found getting anything tested is next to impossible because of several factors, even if you know what it is. Of course the perps know this too and will work to prevent any successful testing. I haven’t had any problems getting cops to believe this crap, they know it is real and some of them are involved in it, but definitely not all of them. While the perps are working you, the victim, they are also working to convince the cops and community that you are crazy or a dangerous criminal. Lies are the primary tool used in these all out assaults to destroy innocent victims. Once informed the duped innocents will stop, but the evil pros and others will not stop until the money does.

    Comment by jtk — November 8, 2007 @ 4:01 am

  59. Here is an example of what the results are if the “organized stalking perps” succeed in having a victim labeled “mentally ill”.

    PSYCHIATRIC STIGMA follows you everywhere you go for the rest of your life.

    A warning from Lawrence Stevens, J.D.

    http://www.antipsychiatry.org/stigma.htm

    Comment by anonymous — November 26, 2007 @ 3:59 am

  60. Bob64, I dedicate a lot of volunteer time to helping victims of gang stalking and electromagnetic weaponry. VOLUNTEER time BOB, not paid time. I spend hundreds of dollars in phone bills, postage and time writing letter to representatives, senators, and other agencies seeking help for victims. Self-promotion is for people getting PAID. Bob, by your comments I would say you are probably a gang stalker and not a victim. Your post is very suspicious and uncaring for someone who is a victim. You sound like a gang stalker who wants vicitms to stay isolated. Who cares about the initials on a post, it is the information that people are seeking. A radio program helping to get the word out is a good thing, Bob, at least from a real victim’s point of view.

    Comment by MSS — November 26, 2007 @ 4:11 pm

  61. Bob64, by the way, one of my perps is named Capt. Bob–is it you by any chance? Strange how you seem to focus on helping the gang stalkers and not the victims. Bob64, you are a gang stalker, get off this site. People are here to support each other and give each other ideas that will help them free themselves from these criminals. You write as though you have been totally indoctrinated which is a sign of a cult and mind control. Many experts are beginning to link gang stalking to cults and SRA abuse. For your information, microwave radiation can be reduced by unplugging the microwave. V2K and silent sound may continue, but the radiation burn usually stops without the power supply.

    Comment by MSS — November 26, 2007 @ 4:56 pm

  62. MSS,

    After I read what you said about unplugging the microwave, of course I tried it because when attacked you will try anything that is suggested, but in my case it just didn’t work. I had tried other similar tactics after hearing from Julianne McKinney that the electrical wiring might somehow be used or “piggybacked” off of as a sort of “antenna”. There was no measurable affect that I could determine with the type of the magnetic flux weapon being used. Of course my situation could differ in some way and there was not an explanation of defensive measures. And I can’t see how they were burning you with your microwave unless they were overriding the safety switch and doing so directly after drugging you.

    I’m glad it stopped it for you for whatever reason. I don’t want to discourage anyone from trying anything that might help them.

    What I meant is that my perps constantly want me believe things that are not reality. It is part of their evil game. I know as victims we should always question the validity of our conclusions and how we arrived at them. Are they realistic or possibly induced by the sneaky perverted perps.

    Saying things that sound “out there” to unaware people, even if they could be true, can feed the “mentally ill” labeling of the victims I just read about above. I’ve seen many clever perps tell a great story and then throw in that one thing that just sounds crazy to most people, they of course are intentionally discrediting real victims.

    As long as you are helping others I don’t see any harm with you using whatever “nic” you want in any way you want.

    Also, Bob is a common name and I am not the Captain of anything.

    Comment by bob64 — November 27, 2007 @ 4:53 am

  63. O.k. Maybe we should just call a truce; victims need to stick together. I have read articles about the microwave radiation being able to go through the walls of homes, apartments, etc. The micro radiation is what causes the extreme fatigue attacks. Before I blocked the micro and unplugged it I was getting hit constantly in the right side of my head and it was debilitating, so I did some reading and learned that I need to block and stop the radiation. After I did that, the fatigue began to clear up and my memory began to return. I still get the “zapping” and V2K, but not the radiation burn to my brain. I just know what I have experienced and do my best to pass it on to other victims. Shielding is a problem, so any ideas we can come up with are better than nothing. Check out Freedom from Covert Harassment and Surveillance. This is a great website where victims meet to support each other and give each other ideas. They have conference calls and meetings, etc. Check it out.

    Comment by MSS — November 27, 2007 @ 5:05 pm

  64. November 29, 2007

    NOTE: Names of persons and places have been changed to protect the authors.

    First off, we are good people with a good background and have had not problems with police in the past. We have worked and still work with charities, and are very honest.
    My name Is Mr. Gang Stalking Victim. I’m a victim of Full Blown AIDS, live in Anytown Florida, and I am writing to you all because I feel we need assistance involving strange “stalking” and possibly slanderous–type activities aimed at my housemate Robert and me. These strange activities started as soon as we moved into our new home located in Anytown Florida in January of 2007. From what we have witnessed, we believe a person or group of affiliated people have been spreading harmful rumors meant to discredit us with our new neighbors and law enforcement officials, and are also meant to harass us to make us feel uncomfortable and unwanted in our new Anytown home. These incidences of harassment have involved people following us in cars, people suspiciously showing up in droves shortly after we arrive at our destination (such as a restaurant, park, beach, or Post Office), having our neighbors and there children taunt us with verbal insults and unfounded accusations. We have also encountered tactics known by “Gang Stalking” researches as “Street Theater”. We have had incidences of trespassing, theft, destruction, and defacement of our property that has been reported to the police, but with no action taken. The worst of these harassment tactics took place on October 8th, 2007, and involved the local Anytown police department, and the Anytown River Medical Center.

    On October 8th 2007, I was forced to call 911 at around 5:20 a.m. and ask for police assistance. We heard a person knocking on our outside house wall and / or privacy fence at our Anytown, Florida home. When my housemate Robert and I went to investigate this noise, I heard the prowler clearly say, “We are going to get you!” in a low threatening and somewhat theatrical voice. The prowler was behind our privacy fence and on our property. After he made the statement, he ran away from our property before I could get a chance to maneuver myself to see him clearly, and it was also still very dark out at this time. This action was surely meant to disturb and intimidate us. And it had at first, but we collected our thoughts and relized what was going on.
    It was “Gang Stalking”!

    This prowlers actions has followed a string of strange events that we have been documenting in emails, such as some neighborhood people suddenly lurking in the vacant lots around our home (sometimes taking photos of us and our property), strange cars parking across the street of our property with the drivers clearly observing our house and our normal everyday activities. When we have tried to approach these people, they drive off. We have had our neighbors’ children passing our house, repeatedly making rude comments and accusations to their friends such as “They’re watching us” when they see we are in hearing distance. Also we have had a strange man approaching us (then passing) holding a club when we had taken our dogs for a walk one afternoon in early October. A few people that have been kind to us have informed us that these types of events are very unusual in our area. We have also reported bags of trash dropped on our property (away from the road) and a brand new yard tool stolen from our gated back yard. We had reported these actions to the local police. With little evidence in hand the police said they could do nothing to help us. Again, we have documented these strange events and others like them in emails, and have sent them out at the time when they had originally occurred.

    Well, back to the events of the morning of October 8, 2007. I called 911, and an officer (Deputy Policeman) of the Anytown Police Department arrived at our home to investigate. His investigation was minimal and he seemed unconcerned and in a rush to leave. In my opinion, his actions and investigation were highly unprofessional, suspicious and aloof. The officer also made statements to me that suggested that Robert or I might be under some type of investigation. When I questioned Deputy Policeman further on this matter, the officer informed me that he could not elaborate. I am a person disabled with AIDS, exacerbated by severe medical problems, and this event was not helping my situation. While writing out my police report to Deputy M, Policeman about this prowler incident, I had asked the officer for a paramedic to be called to assist me for chest pains I had as a result of my scare. Robert also requested to fill out a report form, and I made sure these police reports were scanned into my computer before handing them over. We felt it best to scan our reports mostly due to the officer’s behavior. At around 6:30 am, I was transported by paramedics to the emergency room at the Anytown River Medical Center via ambulance. When in the ambulance, I informed the paramedics of my disabling condition. When I arrived at the Sebastian River Medical Center, I was very briefly seen by a doctor (for about 5 minutes) and then held for many hours just waiting in an emergency room bed with little or no concern by staff for my reported pain. I was then taken to the ICU ward in the late afternoon, but never saw a doctor in ICU. I also waited there for hours and then that evening I was told I was being sent to another facility that could help me, but neither I, nor Robert was given any other information by the nursing staff as to where I was being sent. Robert was forced to leave the ICU due to visiting hour regulations. In the late hours of the evening I was transported to the Clinic for Emotional and Behavioral Health in Generic Beach Florida completely without my consent under the Florida “Baker Act”. When I arrived at this facility, I was informed by the staff that no doctor back at Anytown Medical had signed my documents, and I would need to “sign myself in” to this facility. I refused to do so, knowing full well that this was some sort of trick to incriminate myself. After I refused to sign myself in to the Clinic for Emotional and Behavioral Health, I asked to be released. The staff then told me that I must return in the ambulance to Anytown Medical for a doctor to sign the papers, or otherwise I could go home. I was taken back to Anytown Medical in the A.M. hours of October 9th where I asked to be released but was told by Emergency Room staff to stay where I was. An armed officer of the Anytown police force then entered the emergency room and faced me in a threatening manner. About 30 minutes later, a doctor walked into my cubical at the emergency room, took my vital signs and signed the papers. I was then taken by ambulance once again to the Clinic for Emotional and Behavioral Health. This was all done without my consent! This is all on record, as I now have the hundreds of dollars in bills from the ambulance company for the back and forth transports. When I did get to talk to a doctor at the Clinic for Emotional and Behavioral Health (Dr. Psychiatrist ) on October 9th, he informed me that the reason I was taken to the Clinic for Emotional and Behavioral Health was due to Deputy Cop’s statement and report that I was “Psychotic” and my reporting a prowler at my house was all just some deranged hallucination. I am sure Dr. Psychiatrist ‘s report has much better details than I can give you. This news was a shock to me because my housemate Robert had seen the same prowler, and had also made a written report to Officer Policeman, but funny how Robert had not been taken to the Clinic and called “Psychotic”! This is no joke! I was truly kept at the Clinic for Emotional and Behavioral Health for over 48 hours before they had to release me by law. And, I was also released from my involuntary incarceration because the center’s psychiatrist Dr. Psychiatrist would not agree with the officer’s assessment of my condition. In the days after this horrible ordeal, Robert and I attempted to gather all the information we could about our situation and seek legal help to possibly sue for misconduct. Our resources are limited, and my disabling health condition had soon after become much worse. Due to poor health, I have not had the chance to pursue this matter as much as I would have liked to. When Robert and I contacted the Anytown Police Department’s records department in the days after my October 10th release (to obtain copies of our written police statements from October 8th), we had been told that Robert’s report was never filed by Officer Policeman! This was a red flag to us, and a very suspicious action. We talked to legal professionals, but they said little could be done. This is so disturbing to us, and we are disgusted!

    How rude and highly suspicious it was for that officer not to file Robert’s legitimate police report; and how unfair for the Anytown River Medical Center to deny my request to be released. And, it is also disturbing how I am still dealing with the effects of my unfair incarceration at a mental health facility when I have AIDS. I clearly informed the Anytown River Medical Center staff of my medical status. All of this trauma just because Officer Policeman had stated that I was “Psychotic” in his police report. What could his motivation have been? I had legitimately called 911 about a person making disturbing and violent threats to us on our property at around 5 a.m. in the morning. This was the second time we had to call law enforcement to our home in under two weeks! Of course I was scared, but not “Psychotic” as Officer Policman had reported! It is peculiar to us how no professional mental health official or medical Doctor I have seen after these events agrees with Officer Policeman’s assessment of my mental state. We can guess that this is. Could it be good old-fashioned harassment tactics, or “Gang Stalking? We sure think it is!

    It is our opinion that everything we have stated in this letter is somehow connected to some organized form of harassment called “Gang Stalking”. It is also very sad, and I would go so far as to say even abusive how some people use their own children as tools in these harassing games. When walking our dogs in our area, we have seen parents call their children to them, point at us, then encourage the child to scream at us. We have also had some adults from our area make rude slanderous comments at us when passing by our property, but later change their demeanor to be completely friendly when other people are around who could possibly witness their unusual actions. This type of thing distresses us! But we never lose our cool, and just stay smart.

    We believe and fear that there may now be an organized effort to have us accused of making contact with children / minors, based on the tactics we have witnessed, and by the statements and actions made by the people involved in these “Stalking” like events. Again, we have attempted to document every bizarre and suspicious action taken by anyone at the time of the incidents. We know that this “Stalking” pattern fits a known harassment tool used by some groups to discredit people, and we are just not that stupid not to take action, or fall into there trap. These events have also forced Robert to have to go to the Anytown Police station on his own to re-file a report that should have been entered into the records department on October 8th 2007 by Officer Policeman. The clerk working at the police department’s records section told Robert that he could obtain a copy of this 2nd written police report he had made to Officer Cop at the police station on Friday November 30th. We sure hope there is no further unprofessional actions or tricks played on us by our paid local law enforcment, but it looks like some people or groups just do not know when to quit. We are shocked by all of this, because we do not deserve this unfair and abusive treatment. But after we have done more research on “Gang Stalking” and the tactics they use, we feel this is very common in our culture. We are peaceful people who just want to enjoy our new home. We hope these events would just end, but from our research into “Gang Stalking” we have learned that it continues non–stop for these people. So we are learning to turn it into something positive and useful for other victims.

    I did hope someone could help us resolve this situation, but am not sure how to proceed. We do not wish to take any action that would incite further abuse to us, but doing nothing seems to just invite some type of “Set Up” that will be used agents us. We hope that informing you of our situation will be of some help. Please contact us for further information. The case number of the October 8, 2007 event is (07-1444-OF) and recorded with the Sebastian Florida Police Department. We also ask you to research “Gang Stalking” tactics so that you can better understand our situation. We would like to be able to feel safe and assured of assistance when we call 911, but that seems unlikely. We feel it is very important to work within the law, stay cool, and not take any type of direct actions ourselves. Robert and I also feel that it is very important for us to gather hard evidence and seek professional advice before making any type of direct accusations to law enforcement officials against any individuals in our area doing this sort of thing. We are friendly and law–abiding people, and do not wish to lower ourselves to the types of negative behavior that has been aimed at us. One other strange event I must mention also involves the Anytown River Medical Center, and took place on November 5th and 6th 2007. I went to the medical center to have blood drawn as per my doctor’s request on the morning of November 5th. I had my order form for the tests with me, and a number of vials of my blood were taken. I then was told I could leave. That afternoon, I was called by the Anytown River Medical Center and asked to return, as they needed more blood for the tests. Because I had to get this test done for treatment of my bad health, I agreed to return on the morning of November 6th. At least two further vials of my blood had been extracted and I was told that I did not have to sign in, fill out any documentation, and I did not receive any proof that more blood was taken. Because this was highly unusual, I had Robert accompany me to the lab to be a witness to this. I sure hope there was no nefarious activity connected with this action on the part of the Anytown River Medical Center. I’ll be sure to avoid that facility at all cost in the future. I hope my story helps someone.

    Sincerely
    Mr. Gang Stalking Victim & Housemate Robert

    Comment by Kenn — December 1, 2007 @ 10:54 am

  65. Kenn – Your situation is an obvious “hate-crime”, perpetrated by your new neighbors who probably have connections to local law enforcement. I suggest you contact national gay and aids advocates as soon as possible. They are probably the best option for help. Good luck.

    jess

    Comment by jess — December 11, 2007 @ 5:15 am

  66. Mr. Gang Stalking Victim & Housemate Robert. I am sorry to hear of your situation. Your story is typical of us gang stalking/electromagnetic weaponry victims. The police usually are no help because the police you deal with are usually involved with these hate groups, hence the word “psychotic” without reason in the police report. Many victims of gang stalking are conveniently diagnosed as being “psychotic” even when they are completely sane. Once labeled with mental illness, it is easy for the perps to get you where they want you (e.g, loss of job, family, friends, reputation, etc). These people will do their best to rob you of everything you hold dear. Please remember however that you are not alone and there are victims popping up all over the world. Some believe this is now a New World Order tactic to keep certain people in their place. It has defnitely been linked with Satanic Ritual Abuse. I am receiving many e-mails at theedgeam.com (radio show) from cases all over the world including UK, US, Canada, New Zealand, and Australia, etc. This is spreading like wildfire. As far as your illness, gang stalkers love to attack people while they are ill and weak. This gives them a sense of special power that is existent only in their own minds. As you and I both know, no one with a normal mind would ever think about harassing another individual and no one in their right mind would ever hang out with anyone who participated in this abnormal behavior. Please search for the Freedom from Covert Harassment and Surveillance website and get on the Targeted Individual (TI) list. This website is an excellent support system. They are very proactive in helping TIs get their voices heard and having many national and international telephone conferences, etc. Surround yourself with people you love and people who love you. Hold on to your faith and your friends. If you are suffering from electromagnetic weaponry harassment, find a way to shield yourself the best you can.

    Comment by MSS — December 12, 2007 @ 6:30 pm

  67. Thank you guys above for your great comments to us! I think that knowing their strategy has been our best weapon so far in fighting this. We have in a way started to turn this around. We have begun to see the known stalkers expose themselves to our friendly neighbors, thus hurting their credibility and trust with each other. One can learn to live with this, as long as one has the information on the tactics used by these groups, and we play it smart. Al Gore said a very wise thing during his run for office. He said “Big Brother might be watching, but Little Brother has a big mouth!” One other thing we also found, is that these people are typically not very smart. Remember not to be sensitive to these “Gang Stalking” tactics.

    Robert and I know full well that our home has been bugged. We have had people come up to us and repeat things we have only said in our private home word for word. We are sure of this, and it’s been done to us quite a few times with the purpose to intimidate and let us know that we are being watched. So now, we enjoy and employ the use of disinformation tactics a great deal. If this is the way it is, then we must adapt and survive within our environment. No one said life is going to be easy.
    We find it is quite easy to wind up known stalkers.

    We make sure we show how much we enjoy life when we go outside, and we make sure we do go out in public everyday. Just got a new truck last week and we show how happy we are about that (but don’t look to be gloating), and we are always walking our dogs with big smiles and a hello to people we meet. We never show any negative emotion, or ever make an accusation about anyone to ANYONE! This is so important! We vent in these forums only. We keep every public comment general, and never accuse anyone of anything. We would only say “It’s our opinion that this fits a pattern of Gang Stalking” in email to media. Never do we say “such and such is a Gang Stalker” or “people are after us”. If you give these types enough rope, they will hang themselves.

    We know it is our duty now to spread information about this “Stalking” and share our story. This is the last thing THEY want! Just so you all know, we feel GOOD! We are using the system, using our heads, and staying in the loop. The common tactics they use are now repeating (such as “Street Theater”), and the tactic of showing up at places we go, and making the typical comments). They have shown us they have a limited ingenuity in what they can do. We in fact find it a bit fascinating now, and kind of enjoy mapping the textbook type tactics. The police have for sure exposed their tactics, and have given us hard proof of the events of October 8th in writing! It is great that we have a solid trail of evidence left by their tactics. They know we have gone public with our story and that we have connections to media. What victims need to have is leverage! If you are a good person with no agenda to harm other people, or break the law, then you should not fear being watched, and just get on with your life. Just have a chuckle like we do knowing someone is spending there lifetime watching your life. We have nothing to hide, and just need to become used to our situation. If you have secrets, then you have something they can use to hurt you. If you are open, they look bad spreading rumors about you to the good people who matter. There will always be hate groups, bigots, and non-thinking tag-alongs, and we don’t care what they think, because we can’t change them. They are sad, and scared people. To the people who are having this happen to them, ENJOY LIFE, and don’t feel a victim. We are not alone! Keep a smile on, they HATE that.

    Fight with your brain. We have only begun to fight!
    Knowledge is power, so let’s all keep educating the non-informed.

    Thank you all who want to help people!
    Mr. Gang Stalking Victim (Kenn) & Housemate Robert

    Comment by Kenn — December 16, 2007 @ 1:49 am

  68. Here is an example of ultrasonic sound projection.

    http://www.geocities.com/free_united_states/Hearing_is_Believing.html

    Comment by jtk — December 17, 2007 @ 9:28 pm

  69. Mr. Gang Stalking Victim (Kenn) & Housemate Robert,

    You are right. We are not alone. Victims are all over the world and we are uniting to defeat the evil. We will not be defeated by these people. We will go on in faith and live our lives the way God intended us to–with blessings and love and joy. We were created to be thinking, feeling and intelligent human beings and will not succumb to the small mindedness and mental illness of those who have apparently fallen into the hands of the devil. These people are living in darkness and are extremely jealous of the light. Keep living, loving and laughing and we will make it! God bless all.

    Comment by MSS — December 18, 2007 @ 5:41 pm

  70. Has anyone gone on any fake job interviews? Be careful of who you interview with. Right before my stalking I put my resume on monster.com and I received a call from a man named John Pliskota here in Chicago wanting to interview me. Well, I went on the interview and he was a total idiot and asked me all kinds of personal questions that did not relate to the job whatsoever. He said he would call me after he made a decision. When he called he left a message that he was not interested. I blew it off thinking he was a jerk anyway and hoping I would never see him again. Well, I started receiving hang up phone calls from his number for about a month and one day someone finally left a message asking me if I wanted a job (now this company already turned me down). I telephoned the man who called me and said thank you, but I already had another job. I asked if John was still there and the man said, “Yes.” In the message he said he was the Sales Manager, not John. I found that odd because John Pliskota told me he was the Sales Manager when I interviewed with him. After I hung up, I telephoned the front desk and they confirmed that John was the Sales Manager, not the other gentleman who called me about the job. I saw John with my stalkers several months after the interview, so I knew the interview was a scam. About 6 months after that I telephoned the company to see if John was still there, the receptionist said she never heard of him and that he never worked there. I guess they may have found out about his little trafikking/gang stalking operation and let him go and told people to tell callers that he never worked there for their own protection. Please be careful if you are applying for jobs because these people will find a way to contact you.

    Comment by MSS — December 26, 2007 @ 3:33 pm

  71. Oh, one more thing, after my interview with Mr. Pliskota, I left and went to the lobby on the lower level of the building. I was standing talking on the cellphone when Mr. Pliskota appeared with his cellphone pointed at me and began taking pictures. I moved around the lobby, but no matter where I went, he came with his cellphone to take more photographs. Please be careful if you notice anyone taking pictures of you, you might want to move away quickly. When I saw John with my stalkers, they referred to him as Captain, so I beleive that he was in the airforce or pilot at one time like the rest of my stalkers. These people run in circles and are often very angry.

    Comment by MSS — December 26, 2007 @ 7:10 pm

  72. Adult internet users,

    Beware of all on-line dating and adult friend finder type web pages and chat rooms. Local fanatic church groups {amongst others} do monitor the people who sign up for these types of services in their local areas, and sometimes use a number of unemployed people and also people with criminal records to falsely answer adds and meet up with people to scope them out. This is a sure fire way for Gang Stalking groups to target people who are not in solid relationships for stalking activities, and also get into a victim’s home and car (sometimes to plant evesdropping devices, and at times even worse motives). These Gang Stalking agents of evil gather personal information posted and given by unsuspecting lonely users {such as personal photos, phone numbers, job info, family history and relationship situations}. This personal information is often mixed with crafty lies, and used by Gang Stalking groups to spread harmful and misleading information about a target’s supposed sex life amongst a victim’s neighbors. This is a sure fire tool to discredit targets, and also make them appear as if they are sexually subversive and a danger to the purity of the area and its children.

    We have also seen news reports of how MySpace type web pages have been altered without an original poster’s knowledge and at times even after users have sometimes cancelled their MySpace accounts. Gang Stalkers have modified the pages and photos posted in ways that are very harmful to the reputation of the original poster. Gang Stalking groups have also been known to create new unauthorized accounts with a victim’s personal information and (sometimes modified) photos. Also, please beware of wireless internet routers, as Gang Stalking groups can hijack your internet IP address for such crafty uses.

    Mr. Gang Stalking Victim (Kenn) & Housemate Robert

    Comment by Kenn — December 29, 2007 @ 5:36 am

  73. Also, beware of posting your resume on public sites.

    Comment by MSS — January 8, 2008 @ 6:28 pm

  74. MSS and Kenn,

    Every place I go is populated with fake patrons/tourists/workers/etc.

    I’m always the subject of attempted assaults similar to, or the same as many I have read about.

    http://harassmentterror.wordpress.com/

    Comment by bob64 — January 10, 2008 @ 6:01 am

  75. Gangstalking is very real. The stories are very similar. I believe it is organized crimmals with high tech equipment. Sonic weapons can produce dizzines and nausea from a distance. Remember the incident with the cruise ship and the pirates. An acoustic weapon was used to make the pirates so ill they backed off. This story was reported by several reputable news papers. South Park even had an episode depicting the acoustic “brown note” and its not so funny effects. It is known fact that walls are not a visual barrier with thru the wall radar “millimeter wave, ultra wideband , thermal imaging”. Several years ago video cameras were accidently sold to the public that were able to see thru peoples clothing. The story ran in several newspapers. This stuff is not new. So why wouldn’t crimminals consider directed energy weapons as the perfect way to intimidate and harass victims from a distance without being observed by bystanders. Billions of U.S. dollars have been spent on defense technology. Most of this technolgy is not new it has just been refined. We need laws that keep up with the technology out there to put an end to this type of harassment.

    Comment by ben — January 10, 2008 @ 8:30 pm

  76. This goes out to all the stalkers (including mine): you are worth better.

    Focus on your abilities, concentrate on bettering your life, improve your life quality. Stop doing this to yourself. Cause your actions have boomerang effect. Think about it for a second, just a second. Is it really worth it?
    Is this really the only way to make a difference?
    Whatever it gives you, it`s a fake feeling.
    What goes up, eventually will come down.

    What kind of person are you going to be after this? What kind of life are you going to lead after this? Is it worth it?

    I think you deserve better than ongoing hatred. In fact you are wasting your time on negativity, what a pity.

    Are you sure there is no other way?
    It is never to late to come up with the right strategies to improve your life and achieve whatever you want.
    I wish you all the best…and maybe someday we will be able to forgive…or even meet face to face. Stop paying for/ participating in this nonsense.
    Relax…and accept the fact that this absurdity is and always will be one big mistake.
    No one is perfect, nevertheless one needs to realize what is doomed to be unsuccessful. And I am sure you are clever guy. This is not right, and it will never give you the real feel of happiness and satisfaction…and I can’t imagine you should be the odd one out not wanting that.
    Give it a thought.
    Get real.
    All the best.
    L.

    Comment by from europe — January 14, 2008 @ 12:18 am

  77. Bob64, I have spoken to many victims who experience “mobbing” and “street theater” that you are experiencing. It is all part of the game. If they have you under surveillance and know where you are going, then they will have people there to mob and harass you. Your home, inside and outside, is probably being monitored and your phone conversations are more than likely being recorded. Home invasion usually occurs with gang stalking, so maybe it is time to get video cameras if you can afford them. Prepare yourself, gang stalking can escalate to the point of physical violence. If you are going somewhere to shop, when you walk out of the house, go to another store. Make sure that you do not talk about your plans in the house or in your car or anywhere you can be heard if you are under surveillance.

    Comment by MSS — January 15, 2008 @ 6:31 pm

  78. To all the TI’s:

    It’s very much about your fears, nursing you into self-fulfilling prophecy and mirror-behavior.

    fears
    expl.:
    - I had told my working colleagues, that I had been so nervous to run out of gaz, that I completely forgot to go to the bank.

    - About two weeks later, I had run out of gaz. (I hardly made it a few meters from where I live and of course was late for work).

    - Good sport that I am, I said that running out of gaz wasn’t that bad, it could have been much worse…could have been my starter. About two weeks later I couldn’t start the car…and guess what: my starter had to be replaced.

    But I can’t help but laugh at all this. I always manage to find nice people to help me. Never forget all the other normal human beings on this earth. This is only a minority consisting of a tiny group of professionals, a few weirdos and a handful of “grown children”. (typically young and old men). No world conspiracy.

    self-fulfilling prophecy:
    For a while, you will be triggered into believing they are all over the place. I think it is everyday sensitizing for 1 week, max. 2. All they then need to do is nurse it from time to time. And if you are not careful, you will see menaces all over the place and constantly feel stressed out. (which is draining you from energy and prevents you from living your life).

    mirror:
    If you are eavesdropped (and you probably are, once they got your cell-phone number), you will be “punished” for every comment you make on the phone/ net etc. concerning them/ their “sport”. You speak up-they react. Clearly a tactic to silence you.
    So if you want to do sth. don’t do it via net or other unsafe ways
    of communication. (and turn off your phone if you don’t need it). Why not write a letter, and make it as neutral as possible and throw it in a letterbox far away from where you live?

    Try to rest your mind. Do not spend too much time reading about it.
    Live your life.
    And foremost: do not retreat,or you will be easy game!
    Mingle as much as you can. Focus on your friends and family. Don’t try to convince them at length. Just say what you notice and how you think it is odd and then change subject. People around you will notice your constant mishaps and the recurrent oddities.
    If you are angry: sing a song, write a poem, work out, clean the house..do sth.

    For those who are on their own: move into a flatshare, go live with others. Gangstalkers’ enemy: evidence and whitenesses.
    Don’t fear for your life. At least I don’t. I know they would never do anything too overt, that’s exactly what they are not about, and that’s why they have rightfully been labeled “cowards”.

    About drugging: wash your fruits, only buy tins/ cans etc.
    I have only been drugged on two occasions.
    - I guess one was to take a picture (I have a memory of a guy with long, slightly red-blond hair bending over me. The lights were turned on and he was not alone). At that time I heard a car passing by and working the horn every night at 2:30 am. I would usually wake and go close the window.
    - The second time was probably to create fear. (I think it was caused by a cigarette, I found in one of my pockets). I heard the front door bang against the small table I had barricaded it with, as soon as I noticed sth. was wrong. But I am not sure, whoever it was really wanted to enter. (symptoms: numbness/heaviness in arms and legs, eyes badly reddened, easily exhausted.
    That’s about a year ago. And I am still alive and well.

    So, my best guess: it’s all about increasing your fear… as much as they can. Try not to get chicken-brained to a point where you can’t think clearly anylonger, or behave normally.
    So fear not and do not isolate.

    One last remark. One night, I heard noises of doors opening etc. as if someone was entering and going upstairs, but nothing inbetween, quite distinct noises.
    I do not really believe in this mindcontrol V2skull theory. I guess if you can get tiny microphones, it can’t be that hard to produce sound in another way then through advanced high-tech technology.
    I vote for not overestimating these people.
    I pity them.
    L.
    PS: I hope I have given you info that is helpful in a way.
    Well, I’m off for a walk. Take care and try to enjoy your life.

    Comment by from europe — January 15, 2008 @ 9:35 pm

  79. I should have said that after many years of this, organized felony attacks/assaults are so common that they are what are normal and expected.

    Did you read the link describing “gangstalking attacks”. That link and several others are what it is like for some including me. Constant attacks in one form or another.

    I always ignore the perpetrator harassment “antics”.

    I have developed reasonable methods to deal with the chemical/drug, radio frequency and acoustic frequency assaults/attacks.

    I take precautions, but expect to be attacked. I also ignore these felony assaults.

    The perps assaulting me include all the named players of “internet infamy”.

    Several times, I’ve watched them all scatter like “roaches in the light”, when they thought they were about to be caught in their criminal conspiracy.

    Comment by bob64 — January 17, 2008 @ 12:31 am

  80. More and More info is hitting the net and radio stations about “Gang Stalking” all the time.

    Remember that misinformation will be placed out there by the perpetrators and supporters of this type of stalking, so you must research with care and keep an open mind.

    One very good page I found with great information that tells about things I have seen for myself about “Gang Stalking” is at the link below.

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter78.htm

    I have never had electronic attacks done to me {that I know of}, but I am sure there is a lot of truth to most of the reports I have seen.

    Kenn

    Comment by Kenn — January 19, 2008 @ 6:14 am

  81. Directed energy weapons exist – the military have been experimenting and developing them for decades.
    Look up microwave/radio frequency weapons.
    There are certain nasty little sites which provide straight forward info on how to build your own,and you don’t have to be very smart to do it.
    A microwave weapon can be built from a microwave oven.
    Raytheon make them for the military.
    I read somewhere they are being used in Israel against Palestinians.
    And they’ve more than likely been used in Iraq.

    Comment by SB — January 22, 2008 @ 8:21 am

  82. Yes directed energy is out there, I am a target in the San Fernando valley and have been gangstalked and electronically harassed for 4 years now. They never seem to give up. I have not blogged on this site for a while, since this time I have found 2 devices one on my ceiling fan and another that I had found a while back but did not know what it was on my porch that looks the most recent one I found. The two devices look like a bugging device to listen in on me. I have tried to get investigators to tell me what they are, I have had several investigators not reply after sending them the photos of the two devices, and the ones who have replied back ask me why am I being targeted. It is really strange, that there is so much secrecy in telling me what these things I have found on my property are. I am very curious to know what kind they are and who the manufacturers of these devices are. Does anyone have any suggestions of how I can find out what these two devices I have found are. I cant seem to find anyone who will tell me what they are. I have also searched on the net to see what bugging devices look like, and have not seen one that looks like the two I have found. They are definitely some type of spy equipment, they have two little round batteries inside the device. It is shaped and a little longer than the size of a pencil eraser on the top of a pencil. If anyone has any suggestions, I would really appreciate it.

    Comment by valley girl — February 1, 2008 @ 9:32 am

  83. My neighbor burns his spent motor oil to poison my air. I should probably report this to his boss where he works as a garage mechanic.

    Comment by living alone — February 4, 2008 @ 2:40 pm

  84. valley girl -

    I don’t talk about what I have found.

    You should keep the devices and don’t give them to anyone. Only supply pictures for identification purposes and never disclose the location of the devices you have found.

    You are under surveillance and the inquiries you have made are probably observed as part of this surveillance.

    Keep posting, they can’t stop, delay or alter it all.

    Comment by bob64 — February 5, 2008 @ 3:17 am

  85. Valley girl -

    I forgot to ask you to post a picture or link to a picture of those devices because it might help other victims.

    You could also contact stores/sellers of spy equipment. They could be the best source for information on the devices.

    Please let us know what you find.

    Thank you, Bob.

    Comment by bob64 — February 5, 2008 @ 5:18 pm

  86. I just put my story on myspace.com at myspace.com/airlinegangstalkers Maybe other TIs could get their stories out on myspace.com also. Myspace seems like a good networking tool.

    Also, if anyone has had a fake job interview where they turned over their information such as SSN, Date of birth, etc., to the perps you might want to consider writing a letter to all the credit bureaus to let them know what happened. I did this yesterday because I want an alert placed on my personal information to see who is monitoring my credit. As we all know these people monitor credit and other personal information. I used the name of the person and the company where I was interviewed and gave a brief description of the odd details surrounding the job interview. I also took down my online banking so the perps do not have a way to look at my accounts anymore. This is driving them crazy. It is time to take the control away from them.

    Comment by MSS — February 13, 2008 @ 10:12 pm

  87. My attackers want me out where they can attack and assault me, at the bank or anywhere else.

    Online banking is safe if SSL 3.0 or TLS 1.0 is used and you could run that through an SSH2 connection if you want be extra safe. All they will get on their line tap is garbage.

    A line tap can see everything you do as you do it if it is not encrypted.

    If you have been compromised by having spy-ware installed on your system, everything you do can be displayed as you do it and/or recorded for later viewing.

    There are other “attacks” that can be used to identify you at websites you visit using timing, javascript etc.

    Comment by bob64 — February 22, 2008 @ 7:59 pm

  88. Hello everyone! another gangstalked/electronic harassment victim here, i live in canada and i have experencied almost all of the above with some exceptions. i was lead to meet with new “friends” which turned out to be working with them and i even became intimate with one girl and actually stayed together for almost a year before she started saying very odd things that would just go so perfet with something or another about things i was doing at home, its very hard to explain in words while typing anyway im sure you can understand! even at my job they were doing this odd mobbing/harrassing type things.i later found out they somehow set up the job for me because trust me these people have pull and some connections, as much as i want to believe otherwise in my personal experience there was some real high up levels pulling some strings. anyway my real question to all of you is have any of you felt almost small muscle spasms all over and espescially when i try to sleep i fell this almost slight pulsating effect on my left temple and then i fell almos light surges of what feels like energy? anyone even somewhat fimillar with these symptoms? i really believe it may be an implant simply because i can feel the tapping/pulsating feeling in the left area at my temple and it wont let me fall asleep im really thinking implant because i dont think the other type of ELF/sonic, and those types or radio frequency could be so localized, please any response is greatly appreatchied and i really would like to chat with other survivers if anyone wants to chat please email me guys we have to stay strong!! honest_surveys@rogers.com if anyone wants to chat and vent together email me!!

    Comment by another victim — February 22, 2008 @ 8:28 pm

  89. another victim – If you are a real victim, there are no “implants”, that’s perp-swill along with “seeing through your eyes”, “reading your mind” and most of the other “mind control” bullshit.

    The directed energy weapons are near your home in other houses or adjacent apartments. They can be in vehicles too, usually vans.

    On the other hand, if you are a “perpetrator”, I’d say you are schizophrenic and should seek psychiatric care as soon as possible. :p

    Comment by buckwheat — February 23, 2008 @ 3:03 am

  90. Hello World: I’ve been a Victim of this Electronic Harassment Nightmare for over 3 years, I am totally poed about the continual terrorist electronic warfare attacks that I’ve been subjected to all I can say is to the aholes that have been doing this to me , justice will come swiftly , you are messing with the wrong people. I want everyone to know on this site I empathise with you and what we have been experiencing ,stand strong and hold your heads high, we are the calvary here to save the day . I thank God for strength and wisdom to do the right thing they should have never messed with this hippy and there is no way in hell I’m letting Electronic Harassent Gangs and there scwag ass tactics destory the psychological state of the human race. As all kinds of negative karma is being conjured up
    and redirected back at their high tech asses at lightspeed, take that you faceless cowards the pen is always mightier than the sword. Peace and good people are taking over, you can’t keep us down and I’m living proof and so are all these people telling their stories and standing up for our rights to live free and unmolested by these mind terrorists, rock on and best regards Rob Blessin P.S. I’m here with you to fight this battle on the front lines now.

    Comment by Rob Blessin — February 23, 2008 @ 10:21 am

  91. This is information for anyone hearing the electronically projected voices of their perps.

    It is a patent for technology to project audio (voices etc.) at someones head filed by “The United States of America as represented by the Secretary of the Air Force”.

    http://www.google.com/patents?id=yKULAAAAEBAJ

    Comment by buckwheat — February 24, 2008 @ 10:14 pm

  92. Here is a story from the CBS show 60 Min on a new publicly funded electronic “RAY GUN” weapon. Don’t be fooled by this story, these weapons have been around for years, and can do much more harm then the government is saying. Cut and past the link that is below in your browser address window to see the full 60 min news story.

    http://60minutes.yahoo.com/segment/145/the_ray_gun

    Comment by Kenn — March 3, 2008 @ 9:58 pm

  93. Rob Blessin and Another Victim,

    I am taking radio interviews on The Edge AM. My show is on every Thursday and it is about Organized Stalking and Electromagnetic Weaponry Harassment. I can be reached at gina@theedgeam.com

    I have interviewed some of the other TIs on this page and I am a TI also and have also posted on this page. I am hear to fight this battle and I am not letting go until we all have peace in our lives again. These perpetrators need to be stopped and I am glad to see everyone is continuing the fight.

    Comment by MSS — March 5, 2008 @ 7:21 pm

  94. You don’t want to interview buckwheat? :)

    What’s he building in there?

    Comment by buckwheat — March 7, 2008 @ 11:48 am

  95. Buckwheat, sure I will interview you. I receive many e-mails everyday from TIs all over the world. I interview everyone who wants to get their story out. I am working hard to expose this crime to the world. (gina@theedgeam.com)

    Comment by MSS — March 10, 2008 @ 6:14 pm

  96. what would you do if your perp was crazy and ganag stalking you and then insisting that he wants to marry you and loves you!!! this is a true story of what is happening to me, this perp is a freemason hes getting everyone to paly his sordid game whilst driving me insane and ruining my life. then after hes finished having his sadistic fun he declares that he loves me and is expecting to marry me!!! haha what a joke

    do u know what its like to have a murderer say that he loves you after he attempts to murder u. this is fucking crazy evil stuff.

    Comment by lala — March 13, 2008 @ 5:43 pm

  97. of all the evil coniving men in the world this is the worlst most evil man ever to darken my life.

    Comment by lala — March 13, 2008 @ 5:44 pm

  98. who instigates these hate crimes against people?
    my conclusion is the freemasons and government officials who legalising these terrorist campaigns against people.

    Comment by dum — March 14, 2008 @ 12:29 am

  99. Hello long time since I have checked in to the site. I am a Gang Stalked with electronic harassment victim from the San Fernando valley in California. I have been a victim since 2004. Although it has been hard, I am continuing my education and plan on law school in the future. Although there are a lot of individuals involved in this sick psychological and physical attack being orchastrated against me, I have been able to make many friends and keep busy. However, they continue their tactics on my college campus and try playing their little skits of whatever is going on in my life. I ignore them and actually feel sorry for them because even though they try very hard to destroy my life, I am very intelligent and even under their electronic harassment I have not received any grade under a B. I feel the strongest ever and feel that God only knows why this has happened to me. I continue to be strong and hope that one day some one will speak out against these horrible crimes that are occuring to the innocent citizens of the united states. I continue to believe that the government, secret society, and definitely the drug dealers and bikers of my community are the ones involved in my harassment. I want to wish everyone peace in their life and to continue forward, I know it is hard. Never give up, I will not.

    Comment by valley girl — March 24, 2008 @ 8:07 am

  100. Lala where do you live? What do you know about the freemasons? Are they like secret societies. Cause I feel there are secret societies from college campuses in on my harassment too. Its hard to say why this all started but I met a person over the internet at yahoo personals and then my life was flipped upside down within a month of exchanging phone numbers.

    Comment by valley girl — March 24, 2008 @ 8:14 am

  101. CURRENT INTERNATIONAL MK-ULTRA project.
    The project’s government-paid applications violate all of our fundamental rights. Among the most horrific applications are HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND HUNTING PEOPLE TO DEATH, FOR “SPORT”. ORGANISED STALKING.

    Targets are first debilitated by gang-stalking & perpetual assaults, including through the abuse of a) advanced military technology, b) vast human resources.
    WOMEN AND CHILDREN are the largest number of TI’s (Targeted Individuals)

    Dare to Care:
    I wish to address anyone with a child, a family, a wife another person in this world that they love, or a conscience, not to consider the possibilities of if you pass this information on, but the dire ramifications if you don’t, as there are those within the “system” who want us to all to have a RFID, (radio frequency identification) chip under our skin in order to track everyone, everywhere.

    I know many Christians beleive this is the mark of the beast, and those implementing these things to be the synygogue of satan from revelations, Illuminati and other secret societies, trying to fulfill bible prophecy and that the prophecy warns us these things must not be accepted and stopped at all costs.

    Whatever you beleive, I beleive this; it is a huge violation of human rights and these vulgar crimes must be adressed and stopped.

    Many people have become victims due to simply using internet chat rooms, or Targeted because they have regular routines, are attractive, rejected sexual advances, live alone, spent time in hospital, met the wrong person at a club, been promoted to a executive position, have a good looking child, work within an industry where you need to be ‘controlled’ i.e. entertainment, law enforcement ,etc.) and have become what certain “elitist” groups, may very well class as living collateral damage, as they have deemed us (people) “human capital” perhaps casualties of an ongoing silent war.
    Whatever the case these demoralizing crimes are nothing short of utterly horrendous, to the point of being truly unbelievable. (Being a major part of the problem.)
    These complete violations of human rights, may only be recently coming to light as the number of victims are growing as enormously as the rate of suicide within the circles of sufferers.
    I feel it is my duty as a parent and human being to attempt, (although, more than likely for some time yet, in vain) to create some more awareness of the hundreds of victims there are, and countless unknown cases around the world .

    Those of you suffering horrific physical ailments, and/or absolute mental torment due to;
    Electronic Physiological warfare, Mind invasion via chipping, frequency manipulations, Electronic harassment, Organized stalking, Mind programming at the hands of; Psychiatrists, Terrorist’s within the Government, Wealthy Entertainers, Drug War lords, Corporate Monsters, Media Tycoons, Child pornography film makers, Secret society members i.e.; Masons etc., Entertainment Industry ; i.e. managers/handlers, programmers, i.e.; mind /sex slave=mind control victims/ Satanic ritual abuse; Generational Satanist/Luciferian family torture victims (Your parents are severely brainwashed and physiologically damaged, it was never your fault, this is your time, break the chain.)

    And any other atrocious Government experiments and attempts at making us totally void of our basic human rights; Privacy, Dignity, Safety, and Free Thought. Our divine right to exercise Free Will.

    Every day you survive is the greatest achievement of your life.

    And above all else, the words many surviving victims have waited to hear for years; I BELIEVE you.

    Thank you’s ;
    As for those brave men and women, who have been pushed to the point of no return, and been forced to expose this absolute dehumanization at the cost of making matters worse for yourselves and those you love, being imprisoned, poisoned, losing your family, 24 hour surveillance, being committed, contracting a strange infectious disease, been fired, terrorized, humiliated or have lost someone you love through suicide, or have the pain of watching them go in and out of a mental institute and you know what their saying is true, have had your children stolen from you, police brutality, been drugged, framed raped, etc.

    There are no words worthy of describing the intensely deep gratitude and respect I feel towards you in the English vocabulary, your service to humanity at large goes beyond the call of duty and I mean the following little marks on this page with every atom of sincerity I have in my being; I salute you, I thank you, and I love you.

    Valley girl,
    FreeMasons are a fraternity of counterfit Christians and can be any man joining only by invitation, that beleives in God, and range from your local police officer to george bush.

    Hey La La
    Beleive nothin they say to you, these are greedy fascist war mongering individuals with absolutly no respect for human life; pedophiles, satanists, hell the list could go on and on.
    Their just crimanals who use christianity, then when that gets blown out of the water, Goddess worship then any other Mystery religon they can try and cover their sick shit up with, just a cover for Luciferian beleifes and the dark side of the occult.
    those on lower levels may not always know what is going on but the creeps at the top do, and will show you no mercy.
    Those at the top, the loomies or Illuminati are geneticly connected in some way and beleive they are by bloodline related to biblical cain and you guessed it sister, Lucifer.
    Research; Illuminati, NWO, conspiracy; “Elitists” within our banking systems, they control the mass Media, education, Major Christian churches, the entertainment industry at large etc.
    These people are sick hateful terrorists and play a huge part in Organised/Mutiple stalker victim cases.

    Reasons; There are many, but never beleive they give a shit about you, didnt you read the other cases here do you think for a second that people within our governments are not responsible for covering this shit up.
    They are using people as guinie pigs in Psychological warfare and have done so for years.

    See;

    groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolforum/
    SRAV’s (satanic ritual abuse victims and survivors)

    http://www.raven1.net
    organised/gang/multiple stalking victims

    If you are suffering from agroup of teens bumping into you everyday and wish to dismiss all the other “Paranoid” stuff you may want to stay ignorant or,

    http://www.educateyourself.com

    has some really good stuff, if you ignore the Alien stuff and work on things that can be proven.

    Read; Cathy O’brians; Trance-Formation of America. or you can find some of her story at educateyourself.com

    Research; Mind control, Mind Slaves, MK-ULTRA, Gaslighting, RFID’s etc.

    What you can do; SPREAD THE WORD

    POWER TO THE FREE WORLD.

    Comment by 3V3NG3LA — April 26, 2008 @ 6:38 pm

  102. I am happy to have found all of you. I must be pretty darned strong. I just stumbled upon you angels by “google-ing” the term “gaslighting”…which has been practiced by my stepmother for decades. And still continues. I didn’t hear of gang stalking till 4 or 5 days ago. I have been battling this phenomenon and not even known it….alone. I am quite pissed. But feel stronger than I ever have in a long time. I always say I am a survivor and a warrior, because of all the bad luck and crap I seem to pull through. It does NOT make my heart happy to know there are so many others…but thanks for letting me know I am not alone. Lets do something about this, let’s grab the bull by the horns…I have had enough and to find out all of this is so deliberate and organized…I am relieved I am not crazy. I now say “Bring it on, you ##@#@##$#$!!!” It will be way easier now that I know what I’m dealing with and it has a name…I have always called it “bullshit”. You good people don’t even know what your stories and info have done for me. I feel like Popeye after he just opened and downed a can of spinach. Olive Oyl has just left the building. Peace to you all…I’m sure you’ll be hearing lots more from me…boy, do I have some stories to tell…. Thank you. I love you.

    Comment by Ann — April 27, 2008 @ 1:22 pm

  103. i am a 20 year old victim of gang stalking. this reality has been exposed to me only recently. numerous things have happened to me such as: threatening phone calls, broken appliances in home and car, visible and distinguished perpetrators sitting next to me in restaurants, and the like.

    not too long ago my sister and i were sitting outside talking, and a man pulled up in a car and asked me if he was on the correct street. while i was answering him, he was obviously memorizing my sister’s license plate number. the next day, my sister was fired from her job. it was obvious he was a perpetrator, as the street i live on is essentially a coldesac, so he would have known he was on the correct street before even entering.

    my dad and i also received a threatening phone call. a man said that he would “make your daughter cry”. my dad and i were extremely worried about the safety of my sister, so that night we went and picked her up from work. for some time i thought we were going crazy. then later when i found out about gang stalking, this is exactly what they want to happen.

    i also believe my next door neighbor is a perpetrator. it is obvious he is unemployed, besides the large amount of money he probably makes being a perpetrator. he makes it appear that he is not home by various ways. for example, he will not bring in the trash/recycling bins during the day, even when he is obviously home. instead he brings them in at around 5/6/7 in the evening and opens his garage door to make it seem like he was gone all day and just got back from work.

    he is most likely performing surveillance and/or electronic harassment. there are numerous and consistent sounds on my wall (his backyard is right next to my bedroom wall, an absolutely perfect scenario for him to carry out his tasks). to cover his acts up, he has a door mat and yard tools constantly sitting on his fence, so that if i was foolish enough, i would believe the source of all the sounds were just from his yard work, and not from electronic harassment/surveillance.

    it almost seems like he is deluded in his criminal activity. he is so deep into the pit of heinousness that he can’t even escape. he thinks that his schemes are clever, and indeed they have been for some time, but little does he now know.

    i do not know what to do now that i know my next door neighbor is most likely a criminal. anyone have suggestions? for now, i am learning to give all of my anxieties to god, because there’s absolutely nothing too big for him to handle. i can’t imagine where i would be if i didn’t have the help of god. most likely i would have committed suicide by now. thankfully, i know that god is for me, and who can possibly be against me?

    “Do not fret because of evil men
    or be envious of those who do wrong;

    for like the grass they will soon wither,
    like green plants they will soon die away.

    Trust in the LORD and do good;
    dwell in the land and enjoy safe pasture.

    Delight yourself in the LORD
    and he will give you the desires of your heart.

    Commit your way to the LORD;
    trust in him and he will do this:

    He will make your righteousness shine like the dawn,
    the justice of your cause like the noonday sun.

    Be still before the LORD and wait patiently for him;
    do not fret when men succeed in their ways,
    when they carry out their wicked schemes.

    Refrain from anger and turn from wrath;
    do not fret—it leads only to evil.

    For evil men will be cut off,
    but those who hope in the LORD will inherit the land.

    A little while, and the wicked will be no more;
    though you look for them, they will not be found.

    But the meek will inherit the land
    and enjoy great peace.

    The wicked plot against the righteous
    and gnash their teeth at them;

    but the Lord laughs at the wicked,
    for he knows their day is coming.

    The wicked draw the sword
    and bend the bow
    to bring down the poor and needy,
    to slay those whose ways are upright.

    But their swords will pierce their own hearts,
    and their bows will be broken.

    Better the little that the righteous have
    than the wealth of many wicked;

    for the power of the wicked will be broken,
    but the LORD upholds the righteous.

    he days of the blameless are known to the LORD,
    and their inheritance will endure forever.

    In times of disaster they will not wither;
    in days of famine they will enjoy plenty.

    But the wicked will perish:
    The LORD’s enemies will be like the beauty of the fields,
    they will vanish—vanish like smoke.

    The wicked borrow and do not repay,
    but the righteous give generously;

    those the LORD blesses will inherit the land,
    but those he curses will be cut off.

    If the LORD delights in a man’s way,
    he makes his steps firm;

    though he stumble, he will not fall,
    for the LORD upholds him with his hand.

    I was young and now I am old,
    yet I have never seen the righteous forsaken
    or their children begging bread.

    They are always generous and lend freely;
    their children will be blessed.

    Turn from evil and do good;
    then you will dwell in the land forever.

    For the LORD loves the just
    and will not forsake his faithful ones.
    They will be protected forever,
    but the offspring of the wicked will be cut off;

    the righteous will inherit the land
    and dwell in it forever.

    The mouth of the righteous man utters wisdom,
    and his tongue speaks what is just.

    The law of his God is in his heart;
    his feet do not slip.

    The wicked lie in wait for the righteous,
    seeking their very lives;

    but the LORD will not leave them in their power
    or let them be condemned when brought to trial.

    Wait for the LORD
    and keep his way.
    He will exalt you to inherit the land;
    when the wicked are cut off, you will see it.

    I have seen a wicked and ruthless man
    flourishing like a green tree in its native soil,

    but he soon passed away and was no more;
    though I looked for him, he could not be found.

    Consider the blameless, observe the upright;
    there is a future [b] for the man of peace.

    But all sinners will be destroyed;
    the future [c] of the wicked will be cut off.

    The salvation of the righteous comes from the LORD;
    he is their stronghold in time of trouble.

    The LORD helps them and delivers them;
    he delivers them from the wicked and saves them,
    because they take refuge in him.”

    Comment by follower of jesus — May 11, 2008 @ 12:06 am

  104. I was told I was their enemy very early in my life since I declared their drug assaults as illegal and unconstitutional. They are certainly in all walks of our society, many people are easily led astray by group participation. Bible verses are nice and certainly gives hope for a future in God’s kingdom, but if they have tortured you using drugs, mind control, toxins, disease, and brainwashing you won’t ever recover in this life. Make no mistake if they want you broken mentally it is accomplished using drugs within a very short period of time, drugs and toxins our government developed easily turn lambs into psychotic maniacs. The U.S.A. has had illegal mind control population eugenics for a very long time. None of the activities occurring to the targets is not within the knowledge of our government, although for their own ability to deny plausability and deny responsibility many do not want to know the day to day activities the dark side has perpetrated. It certainly seems at times upon reflection that our government is in league with the devil but if their are real fallen angels i suspect they certainly would be influencing and attacking the elite and powerful to further their agenda. Virtual reality technology hypnotism multiple drug pump injection system allows them to create scenarios and simulations, I have personally seen some technology while they were using drugs on me that i have never seen in public anywhere and was told that much of previous technological release had to be confiscated to limit the publics knowledge and ability to study.
    Much of the tactics they use or used(reform) were a result of cold war tactics and atrocities our governments subjected other nations too. So many very well paid were descensitized to using aggregious amounts of power to torture and break people.
    Those who think that this kind of thing occurs in an unorganized fashion by individual who are destitute losers at least naive but more likely have been convinced by those who use real power.

    Comment by anon — May 12, 2008 @ 4:56 am

  105. Its organised but at different levels.
    I don’t think the government is harassing me.In my case it is a bunch of creepy,weirdo,bullying cowards who do this for cheap,perverted kicks.
    Some of it is motivated by jealousy.
    We are all being intimidated by basically the same tactics but by different organisations.
    Despite the harassment,I know I am a happier person than my tormentors.
    I wish everyone the strength to cope with whatever you must deal with right now.

    Comment by SB — May 14, 2008 @ 10:26 am

  106. the same is with me, SB. i’m much more happier/content than most of my perpetrators seem to be. i don’t see how anyone who is truly happy with their life would get involved in a heinous crime like this in the first place.

    anyone have suggestions as to what i should do in regards to my next door neighbor being involved in this? i don’t want to stoop down to his level, so i’m thinking of possible ways to let him know that i’m aware of what’s going on.

    really appreciate it and hang in there my brothers.

    Comment by FOJ — May 16, 2008 @ 11:02 pm

  107. I’m in the southern hemisphere and have been gang-stalked for the last several years. God helps me get through this reality, He is more powerful than any other power. I’m no victim in Jesus’ name. They will NEVER win my spirit. Jesus overcame the world and even death. Keep up the good work getting this information out there, and if theres anyone outside of the States, also know that you’re not alone in this. God bless you all.

    Comment by proudchristiangirl — May 22, 2008 @ 6:01 pm

  108. i admire your attitude, proudchristiangirl. your post has encouraged me tremendously. thank you.

    Comment by foj — May 26, 2008 @ 3:17 am

  109. Sure thanks foj. Yes I’m a target, but I’m not a victim. No matter what harm they might achieve against me, they don’t win. God gives me the determination, and I just don’t want the devil to win! Because I’m outnumbered this means I’m not going crazy. Mind control is ‘all psychological’ so it is almost impossible to prove, but if we all keep joining together and expose the career path of these cowards, then it can only give us more credit that gang stalking exists.

    Comment by proudchristiangirl — May 27, 2008 @ 6:31 am

  110. There is a gang stalking inciter in the San Fernando Valley, CA
    This is an old man who picks a target – ususally a female but not always. He does everything he can to ruin the target’s life. He tries to find out every single detail about the target, from the day they were born to present.
    He wears a type of uniform for his work that he uses to make people think he has some kind of official authority but it’s bluff.
    The big old geezer is able to turn loved ones, friends, work associates and everyone else against the target.
    He convinces groups via degrading slander to follow, spy on, question and harass the target. They are eager to comply as they believe he is some kind of VIP with public security. Targets say that he can open any lock and tresspasses into their homes when they are gone. The stalkers alert him when a target leaves his or her residence and which direction he or she goes.
    When not in his work uniform he wears jeans, t shirt, baseball cap, tennis shoes. He walks with a “shuffle” due to arthritic knees. I don’t know where he lives but I see him a lot in Van Nuys.

    Comment by Bern — May 27, 2008 @ 1:05 pm

  111. FOJ,
    I know its a tough call, but if you are SURE that your neighbour is involved,why not go and ask? I did and the scumbag denied it but he lied thru his teeth whilst being completely ashamed of himself.
    Also,if I ever saw him on the street I’d ask him to his face
    ‘And? Nothing to say?’
    Most of the people who take part in this know it is ILLEGAL and WRONG…but they are addicted to it.This is addictive behaviour for someone with extremely low self-esteem.They are on some kind of power-trip.
    And they have most likely been told they are working for the security forces etc. Some of them are ex-military who can’t handle civilian life.
    There is also a political angle,some of these groups are far right extremists who just hate everything and everybody.

    Comment by SB — May 29, 2008 @ 12:33 pm

  112. ever wake up with a taste in your mouth like a cross between rust and blood, then notice your head was groggy? Let me tell you what else they do:

    They put bedbugs on you, and other insects that make you suffer delirium.

    The pain from your “microwave” is actually a transmitted wave, from DIRECTIONAL transmitters being aimed your direction. Properly focused, you can cook with it.

    Moving stuff around, IE: taking a new resume, and replacing it with the one that had typos in it.

    Clearing your calls, and “queering you with employers or prospectives”

    Using “ham” equipment, to track a device on your car.

    Switching on and off, a device that is power humgry and on the same power grid as you, creating a “morse like” emmition, that drives you crazy.

    tampering with devices and voltages to make certain appliances hum., See, if you are already impaired by them, the hum drives you crazy.

    They employ the use of simular looking twins, as to provide alibis, during their intrusions.

    Suspect everyone that trys overly hard to convince you that nothing is going on, even moreso, the ones that will tell you you did not see what you know you saw.

    Around here, we ahve a oil pipeline, and a press that prints money, and a few other gvmt secrets, and people around that do as they please.

    I was in army intelligence, and can tell you it is fact that certain devices exist, and pretty much tell you how they work

    This is speculary but accurate in some cases. I dont caer where you may ahve worked, there was either a deputy, or one of thier family members in your office or plant. They fly low, and as some people do, maybe you slip up and tell what they (or someone else) did many years ago, and that enough, is cause to get your house or phone bugged. most families that are big into lawenforcement, have unkles of cousins who are bondsmen. That means that jo shmo, without education, going on “you said it” gets a magsitrate to produce a writt, allowing a “bounty hunter” to enter your home to ??. They ahve also been known to use people such as yourself, to put away more dangerous people. You may very likely be someones payday. When you can be named a “suspect” in whatever was whipped up, dont think that you will get a day in court to address your losses, or damages. This is very, very true. If you can think of one thing you might have said, picture who you were talking to. DO not give them benefit of doubt. YOu would be amazed who the deputy is that you went drinking with, or that you confided in. Also, beware of deacons, some carry badges too. Oldest trick in the book, repent, and testify.

    Ask youself THESE questions
    Ever been held at a business or residence, against your will? if they can pass you off as crazy, they will, it destroys any credibility to ANYTHING you say.

    Ever been assalted in a public place with cameras, and could not get the film? If you are smart, and fight back too much, you will lose your job, and they attack your assets.

    They buy your debt too. one tactic, is to make your phone ring 30 times a day, and to fill up your voicemail if you have it.

    now, heres a slick one, the phone provided voicemail, is complex, and duplex, for those with tech knowledge. in laymand terms, it means, that your phone can be flashed, and lines can be switched just by lifting the handset. and if you are on a party line as the old school partylines, anyone can hear by lifting the phone at their residence.

    If you have complained to an authority about being followed, you can bet your ass YOU are being followed, at least by them. If they discover “they” are watching you, they drop it on the spot. If someone else, they mine it for all the money they can get, and start to insite people to follow you, be at the stores that you are going to. Rememeber how you used to go out just for the hell of it, be suspicious of the people that are making you plan out events that you should be able to just pick up and go.

    One thing that happens to me, I live in the country. Not much traffic, but al of a sudden, lots of cars running the road, and i now always meet three or four cars at the first intercection.

    Comment by Gary Painter — June 5, 2008 @ 3:21 am

  113. Gang stalking is being perpetuated in the San Fernando Valley CA. Two targets, who don’t know each other, have never heard of each other, both say:
    It all started in the San Fernando Valley, CA. One target said it began when whe was working in a nursing home in Canoga Park. She alleges a single female stalker working in the same nursing home, manipulated people to join the stalking through slander. The other said it all began when she was living in an apartment complex directly behind a nursing home in the Northeast SFV. She states it began with a single male stalker, not from the adjacent nursing home, but living in the apartment complex, manipulated people to join the stalking through slander. There seems to be some sort of link.

    Comment by Bern — June 7, 2008 @ 2:14 am

  114. I am also a victim in the san fernando valley. I am a college student and my gangmember, trucking, neighbors are involved. They have stalked me for four years now, even into other states across the country. There are so many people involved, sadly most of my stalkers are hispanic and both men and women. I have been electronically harassed, spied on, stalked daily, harassed, and even found two radio frequency transmitters, one in my home and one on my porch. The San Fernando valley is full of these hateful people. Do not worry, these people are going to pay for everything they have done. Take it from me, god is great and he will assist you through this ordeal, God has made me strong and I will not let these evil individuals destroy me. I have a wonderful daughter to provide for and refuse to be destroyed. God is great and has brought me through my fears of this horrible experience. Keep strong, if you live in the san fernando valley please get in touch with me. I would really like to compare our experiences and perhaps link this harassment to a common person. I know one of my harassers who started this gang stalking works for a Hospital in San Fernando.

    Comment by valley girl — June 11, 2008 @ 8:33 am

  115. If you really want to know what it’s all about then checkout my http://www.jostirling.com I am a veteran victim of the Freekmasons and with tons of concrete evidence. Please read and educate yourselves, get focused as to what’s really happening. Keep up the fight/exposure, lol, Joe

    Comment by Joe Stirling — June 19, 2008 @ 11:52 am

  116. Hey Joe, I think that should be http://www.joestirling.com.

    You’re welcome. ;)

    Comment by FizroSam — June 19, 2008 @ 10:23 pm

  117. SB said:

    “I know its a tough call, but if you are SURE that your neighbour is involved,why not go and ask? I did and the scumbag denied it but he lied thru his teeth whilst being completely ashamed of himself.
    Also,if I ever saw him on the street I’d ask him to his face
    ‘And? Nothing to say?’
    Most of the people who take part in this know it is ILLEGAL and WRONG…but they are addicted to it.This is addictive behaviour for someone with extremely low self-esteem.They are on some kind of power-trip.
    And they have most likely been told they are working for the security forces etc. Some of them are ex-military who can’t handle civilian life.
    There is also a political angle,some of these groups are far right extremists who just hate everything and everybody.”

    i know, lately i have been contemplating whether or not to just go over to his house and simply ask him. i don’t know FOR SURE that he is in on this (i don’t have any “proof”), but let’s just say i would be extremely surprised if he wasn’t.

    he seems like he is one of those “goody guys” who thinks they are such highly evolved species and do everything right. so as you said, perhaps he actually is convinced the lies he is being told, and that he is keeping this “criminal” in check.

    however, like you said, it is very possible he knows that what he is doing is wrong – deep down, subconsciously.

    i’m just going to try to pray about this specific issue i guess, and see what god can do about all of this. i really appreciate the reply, SB.

    take care.

    Comment by foj — June 22, 2008 @ 5:15 am

  118. Sadly, I have confronted my neighbors about it, but they deny it. As a matter of fact they continuously talk to my family members and act as if they are not doing anything wrong. This only makes me look paranoid to my family, accusing my neighbors when they seem so concerned with my well being, according to my family. It is disgusting, but I have realized that the individuals who are behind this are really sick in their head. I totally understand why my neighbors and others are chosen to take on these jobs of stalking and harassment, because they are hateful individuals who have been emotionally and perhaps physically abused. It is neither a secret that the powerful (government, illuminate, masons, ect.) use the individuals in ones own community to destroy one. I am not ignorant to the fact of what is going on, but seem to think that it has something to do with cults aswell. Strangely, some of these individuals are very young to be let in to this secret circle. They also appear to be full of hate by their actions and verbal jargon. I just wish I could cure these people of the hate, sorrow, and abuse they have suffered. If perhaps we could heal these individuals they would not take part in hurting others, which would leave the masons, government, new world order, or cults unable to hurt so many innocent people with this sick crime of stalking and electronic harassment. In the San Fernando Valley there appears to be hundreds if not thousands of members of this sick group/cult. I just wish things would change for the better in this country. I guess it is true that man is going to be the one that destroys the world. There has been too much technological advancement and because of this innocent citizens have become preyed upon with horrific equipment. I will continue to pray that peace be brought and that citizens begin to believe that there are powers that be who want to destroy human kind.

    Comment by valley girl — June 22, 2008 @ 8:54 am

  119. I heard the guy starting much of this is a a senior citizen, caucasian,licensed security guard who works as a guard all over the San Fernando Valley, CA. They say he often stays in the background and incites by spreading slander.

    Comment by Go Rilla — June 29, 2008 @ 1:20 pm

  120. Go Rilla,
    Do you live in the San Fernando Valley? How do you know of this person? I have tried getting information by confronting individuals and they lie through their teeth. I have ideas of why this is happening and who are the persons who started this attack, but do not understand how they were able to get this type of equipment being that they are scum of the earth. Who would actually give this type of people such equipment and authority to conduct surveillance, and electronic (waves, radiation, etc) attacks on innocent citizens.

    Comment by valley girl — July 3, 2008 @ 1:01 am

  121. Valley girl,
    Criminals can get their hands on pretty much anything they want if they’ve got the funds.
    My tormentors are also scumbags,and I strongly suspect a couple of them are ex-military.
    Maybe some of this stuff is stolen from the army….thats what a lot of it was developed for in the first place.

    Comment by SB — July 3, 2008 @ 9:28 am

  122. Valley Girl:
    Sorry, you are confusing my post with somone else’s. I never made allegations of equipment, electronic waves or radiation as you say.
    I was referring to highly incisive and totally fictitious slander to manipulate others (including police) to treat the target as a dangerous suspect. A long list of twisted gang stalking protocols have been perpetrated, however without high tech weapons.

    Comment by Go Rilla — July 4, 2008 @ 3:42 am

  123. I have also been targeted with fictitious slander and treated as if some kind of criminal. Many individuals I do not know are involved in street theater directed towards me as well. It seems like these individuals detest me with every bit of energy they have. The slander and street theater are really not bothersome to me anymore. The problem is that I am also harassed with high tech weapons or some sort which give me terrible headaches and constant ringing in the ears when I am at my home. It feels like some type of sound wave is being directed towards my home that does not stop so long as I am in my home. Any electrical item I plug into the outlets, gives off this horrid humming sound that makes my ears hurt and head hurt. I am not sure if anyone else has been targeted with electronic weapons, if not thank god for only being gang stalked because it is very hard on your physical well being.

    Comment by valley girl — July 5, 2008 @ 5:49 am

  124. Valley girl, this website ( http://www.freedomfchs.com/index.html )is about electronic attacks and organized stalking. They call it “electronic harassment” for some reason, even though the effects are physical assaults.

    Just physically touching someone without their permission is considered an assault under most laws, and from the reports I have read, these weapons do much more than touch.

    I think there are laws in three states now that might have some affect on “civilians”(?) having and using these weapons and I read that Texas might have a law soon.

    Comment by fizroSam — July 6, 2008 @ 7:30 pm

  125. Thanks for the information, I have visited this website before and it is a great link. I am glad that people are not afraid of speaking out against these atrocities that are occurring. I am hanging in there as best I can. Thankfully, I have not lost hope and believe that god will bring me justice for all of the grief, abuse, and pain that I have suffered because of this horrible crime of gang stalking and electronic harassment. I leave many messages on many blogs so that there is proof and no question that I was being targeted by gang stalking and electronic harassment. I will continue to pray for everyone that is a target, that God keep you strong, safe, and to someday free you from this harassment. God bless……………

    Comment by valley girl — July 7, 2008 @ 4:56 am

  126. Valley girl,
    Do you hear strange clicking sounds in your apartment,if you can imagine – rather like a single tick of a clock? I do and I’m quite sure it is something to do with the type of surveillance equipment my harassers are using.

    Another good site is the stalking victims sanctuary.
    Organised stalking and electronic harassment is also discussed.
    The fact that we can discuss it without being ridiculed is a great step forward since a couple of years ago.

    Comment by SB — July 7, 2008 @ 10:58 am

  127. Yes, I do hear a clicking sound on the cieling of my home. When I move from one room to another as soon as I step into the room, it almost sounds like the house is settling. This happens everyday continuously throughout the morning, day, or evening. What I do notice is that a neighbor who lives two homes away from me has two very large tower satelites/antennas of some sort. They are not for television or cable. One is from the floor taller than the home and almost looks like a trinagle with a pointy top and the other is even larger and also tall, it looks like a home antenna square with several rods that cross eachother, similar to a television antenna that sits on top of a home but this one is huge and on top of a large metal structure that looks like a tower. At night when laying in bed I can hear when It moves, its position is moved quite a bit, I can hear a large clicking sound when it moves. I begin to feel worse and have terrible headaches and it also makes a strange buzzing sound. What I do notice is that my neighbors satelite on one side makes this horrid buzzing sound and on the other side my other neighbors light post also makes this horrible sound and also changes colors from blue to white, it is a extreme strength of light something like a spot light. All I know is that my neighbors are sick individuals who have to much time on their hands. I hear alot of buzzing sounds and when I lay down on the bed or couch I feel my body numb. When I awake my ears and head feel as if they are numb, like when you have been sitting on your knees for a while and get up, that numbness feeling you get. I do not know what type of equipment is being used but I beleive it is sound waves, and radio waves since they are not close enough as when living in an apartment. When I did live in apartment it was a bit worse because I was surrounded on every side and equipment was being used on me from above, below, and each side. Hope that you are not living in an apartment, if so try purchasing a wooden bed frame, and a bed that does not contain springs, that is the best thing to combat some of the electronic harassment. Hope to hear back from you SB.

    Comment by valley girl — July 9, 2008 @ 8:05 am

  128. Valley Girl:
    Get a Neighborhood Watch group going on your block. If you cannot do that, call your local police and speak to the person in charge of the Neighborhood Watch. Ask that official what the electrical apparatus nearby are installed to do and if they could be causing your problems. Also, consult with the electric company. See if they can send anyone out to check.
    There are bug sweep experts that can locate and identify and remove any electronic “bugs” in your home. Just do an Internet search for “bug sweep.”

    Comment by Go Rilla — July 10, 2008 @ 5:22 pm

  129. Thanks, for the info. I have found two spy equipment gagets on my property. They are identical to eachother, I found one inside my home on a cieling fan and one outside in the pot that holds a plant on my porch. I now that I am being spied on and have tried consulting companies that conduct the sweeps to see if there is more equipment on my property, but the prices are very expensive. I don’t know what it is that I found, but presume them to be rf transmitters of some sort, they have little batteries inside of the tiny containers. I have searched many sites on the net to see if I could figure out what kind of equipment they are, but have not found anything similar to it. I have taken pictures of the equipment, Perhaps if you have an email Go Rilla, you can maybe see if you are familiar with this equipment. Well thanks hope to hear back from you.

    Comment by valley girl — July 11, 2008 @ 5:36 am

  130. Valley girl,
    Thanks for the perfect description you gave- it sounds very similar to mine….though I haven’t found anything as I’m not sure what to look for.
    I’m still not sure what they are using on me…these creeps are pretty careful about who they choose….most of the targets I’ve had contact with are single and have a quite gentle,caring nature…and may be a bit quirky or creative in a way,a bit left of centre perhaps…so this makes us less likely to be beleived(so we can just be fobbed off as paranoid)
    My tormentors LOOK weird,I mean,oddballs or social misfits…not eccentric.

    Be very wary of bugsweep companies and the like…remember that the surveillance business is very clandestine and some of those companies could even be part of all this.And anyway,if ‘they’ are spying on you,they can just turn them off if anyone comes to look around.
    Also – you have solid evidence of bugs – DON’T give them to ANYBODY – not even the cops!
    Wishing everyone peace and strength!

    ‘Paranoia is just a heightened state of awareness’ – John Lennon.

    Comment by SB — July 11, 2008 @ 9:06 am

  131. Thanks SB,
    No I haven’t shown the police because they never let me make police reports, that is because they like to cover up these crimes. I do not trust that anyone has my best interest in mind. I have the equipment I found in a safe place and will hold onto it until I have the opportunity to prosecute the organization, government entity, or contractors who are behind the horrible crime. I have alot of proof of my drugging aswell. I have hospital documents that show I had a drug in my system that is used for altering ones consciousness to be more susceptible to mind control. I had no idea what the substance was until I googled it and found it is used in mind control. I really feel that I have been unjustly ignored by authorities and plan to hold them accountable of not protecting my constitutional rights and human rights. I do not feel that it is impossible to get justice and plan to do so in the future. I am confident that these crimes will be brought before the justice system in the future. Yes, most victims stories sound similar because the individuals behind these crimes have alot of experience with psychology. The higher level individuals are educated in many areas, especially psychology, if they were not they would not be able to do such destruction to a target. The methods used are based on psychology, I definitely know there is some government involvement at the higher levels of the group who are involved in targeted individuals stalking and electronic harassment. I also notice that the individuals who stalk and harass me look strange, there appearance is that of Caucasian tattoo shop clients, lots of tattoos and look like gothic/satanic/rockers and also Hispanic gang members the kind involved with drug dealing cartels. Although, I think it is all orchestrated by government contractors, the main people who keep us under surveillance are the ignorant individuals who are sought from our communities. It is the main ingredient of hate and separation that many sovereign leaders of the past have used to destroy innocent individuals. These rouge elements of our goverment are able to accomplish separating and destroying us (the normal people in the world) by using the ignorant individuals. It’s sad but very true. In a way I am glad that I do not have a viel over my eyes any longer and can see this world for what it really is. Keep strong and hope to hear from you. I love the quote, it is so true. Is it a wonder that individuals who have tried to speak out against the governments crimes, schemes, and injustices are mysteriously murdered? I think not…………

    Comment by valley girl — July 12, 2008 @ 7:57 am

  132. There are perverts that target women who live alone or with people they perceive to be weak. They are cowards that won’t target big strong men or someone who is always with a strong group. A target in Europe stated the gang stalkers are often paid with drugs to follow the leader.
    Our government is not seeking to harm innocent civilians with torture devices.
    Bring photos of the devices, medical reports or any other proof to your local police and write “For Detectives Division” on the outside of the envelope. Include a report of everything that is being done to you with times dates and locations, double spaced, your name phone number and address, DOB, driver’s license number, date and sign it. If you wish,list some of the gang stalking web site URLS.
    The police throughout the SFV are overloaded by the volume of crime so you might have to wait a long time for a response.

    Comment by Go Rilla — July 13, 2008 @ 10:34 pm

  133. I meant to say include “copies” of your medical report. Maybe you could show photos of the devices on Utube.

    Comment by Go Rilla — July 13, 2008 @ 10:37 pm

  134. something like that also seem to happen to a fren of mine in singapore…is this a global thing? how to get out from this situation and regain one’s life? keep getting stalk by people doing things to annoy or frustrate…my fren life suffered….is this some religious thing?

    Comment by curious — July 14, 2008 @ 10:05 am

  135. Valley Girl:
    Give a copy of your incidents report with photos and your poison report to the Los Angeles District Attorney’s Office. Ask them what to do about this.
    Did this stalking begin before or after you started college? There are pervs that stalk college girls. Find out if other girls at your school are also targets. See if your school newspaper will write an article about gang stalking with a contact email addy or this site to let everyone know that they are being stalked as well. You would be more successful if backed by other honest victims then if you are all alone.
    We need to know more about the stalking in Sylmar and thereabouts.
    Bug sweep companies comprise members of investigator’s associations – they are not stalkers. They are mostly called upon by licensed PI’s to remove electronic bugs placed by big businesses spies or exspouses. About 1/4 of the licensed PI industry are retired law enforcement – not stalkers. Many of them are former police officals. Ask the bug sweep company what investigator association they belong to.
    Targets who are afraid to reveal their plight to the police are helping the stakers get away with thier crimes. Stalkers are no match for very intelligent dectectives and police officials on the LAPD. An officer has to serve for years before being promoted to detective. Barney Fife’s cannot make it to that level. All you need is honesty and documentation.

    Comment by Go Rilla — July 15, 2008 @ 1:43 pm

  136. Go Rilla,
    Do you REALLY think the cops don’t know that organised stalking is happening ?

    Comment by SB — July 16, 2008 @ 6:59 am

  137. Go Rilla,
    The cops know this is happening,they must’ve heard many reports,some probably take part in it.
    The people behind this are all perverts in one way or another,not just cos they may enjoy spying on college girls.
    It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if these creeps have photos and videos of many of us…maybe all on some creepy website….and they may even charge a fee for them too.

    Comment by SB — July 16, 2008 @ 7:07 am

  138. Yes, most police don’t know what “gang stalking” is. Why don’t you ask them like I did?

    Comment by Go Rilla — July 17, 2008 @ 12:23 pm

  139. Go Rilla,
    OK – MOST police don’t know about it…but many do,and SOME take part in it.
    I’ve been to the police about my case but they seemed to regard it as if it was in my imagination.
    Sometimes it’s easier for them to ignore it than take it seriously.
    Part of the problem is that the cops aren’t well equipped to deal with the scale of the problem.
    I’m not being down about all this…I beleive that ‘organised stalking’ days are numbered and eventually there will be special task forces set up to deal with hi-tech harassment.
    I know there are good cops too.

    Comment by SB — July 18, 2008 @ 7:06 am

  140. There already is stalking task force in Los Angeles.

    Comment by Go Rilla — July 21, 2008 @ 5:36 pm

  141. valley girl, when you said that whenever you go into a room it sounds like the house is settling, this is exactly the case for me. i have concluded it is just another sign that i am being harassed electronically.

    also, i have been growing A LOT of gray hairs this past year in particular. as a matter of fact, i probably have about 10 gray hairs on my head at the moment, if not more. i am only 20 years old! perhaps this is further indicative of electronic harassment – possibly specifically radiation. one of the symptoms of radiation exposure is high levels of stress. high levels of stress have the potential to produce gray hairs.

    difficulty breathing is one of the most prominent symptoms i have however. i have found that this as well can be evidence of radiation exposure.

    anyways, i’d like to close by saying that without god’s help, i honestly don’t know where i’d be right now. paul said that god gave him peace and contentment, no matter what situation he found himself in. this is what god has been graciously doing for me as well. besides, these people can do whatever they want to me and my property in this temporary life, as i have eternal possessions waiting for me in the next life.

    take care and hang in there everyone.

    Comment by foj — July 29, 2008 @ 5:52 am

  142. The sound of a house settling is the exact way to describe it…I’m getting the same.
    And it is mostly from the same places.
    I’ve looked but I can’t find anything.

    Comment by SB — July 29, 2008 @ 3:02 pm

  143. I often wonder at how many people are being targetted.
    How many have been killed.
    How many have committed suicide.
    How many who think they are losing their minds.
    How many have ended up in mental institutions.

    It seems to me that for most targets,the nightmare began in only the last few years or so.

    Comment by SB — July 30, 2008 @ 11:18 am

  144. SB said: “It seems to me that for most targets,the nightmare began in only the last few years or so.”

    this is most likely the case for me. if not, then they went from more subtle activity to more blatant sabotage, increasing essentially every year. i wouldn’t be surprised if there was a long period of time where everything indeed seemed normal, and where their activities didn’t negatively affect us much as they do at the present time.

    anyways, i’d like to bring up the topic of flickering lights, electronic disturbances and street lights that go on and off when you pass by/under them. my brief research has led me to believe that gangstalking is the cause of this, but the question is how. there are many theories i have found, such as this is evidence of electronic implants, electronic weapons, or according to the new agers, that our consciousness is raising to a higher level.

    my personal belief is that it is evidence of electronic harassment of some sort (implants, weapons, etc). however, another side of me thinks, what if there is some truth in the new agers’ view that we’re raising our consciousness? i have a theory regarding why gangstalking is taking place – that it is being carried out in preparation for the new world order after the end of the age. perhaps the sinister entities in charge of this planet want to eliminate, either physically or the reputation of, people who are open minded, have a “higher consciousness”, and would not easily fall for the lies of the new world order schemers.

    but for me, street lights going on and off when i go by/under them is quite common, and lately i have noticed the lights in my own house sometimes exhibit random behavior. for example, when i’m reading my bible during the night, my lamp flickers. when i sleep at night, the outside house light turns off and remains of for brief periods of time, only to turn back on.

    well i am stumped and intrigued to say the least, so i’d appreciate any thoughts regarding this.

    take care everyone.

    Comment by foj — July 30, 2008 @ 11:24 pm

  145. here is a checklist for potential gangstalkig victims i found online. notice the fourth one:

    __ You find that all of your family, friendship,
    and business relationships are going sour
    and you have done nothing to cause this
    __ You find that “accidental” blocking of you as
    you walk or drive about, by strangers, has
    increased dramatically and every day brings
    several “blocking” incidents. E.g., someone
    slips ahead of you at the bank machine or
    grocery checkout, or with cars in unexpected
    places in parking lots. This is part of
    what targets call “street theater”. THIS IS
    ABOUT BLOCKING *FAR* MORE FREQUENT THAN THAT
    WHICH OCCURS IN NORMAL LIFE, NOT THE USUAL
    OCCASIONAL OCCURENCES.
    __ Telephones frequently have static or tones or
    echoes; you have lots of “wrong number” calls
    __ Street lights going out as you pass under them,
    walking or driving
    __ Your watch and other batteries going dead often
    far too soon to be “natural” deaths
    __ You find that you are coming suddenly awake at
    precisely the SAME TIME, middle of every night
    __ Inescapable voice in your head and you are not
    mentally ill
    __ Ringing in ears – may start/stop when switching
    on or off electronic devices
    __ Fake telephone or clock ringing or fake knocking
    on your door
    __ Fake, loud bird calls, outdoors, which follow
    you everywhere
    __ Hot needles deep in your flesh, especially when
    trying to sleep (also called “bee stings”)
    __ Limbs jerking wildly, especially when trying to
    sleep
    __ Extremely powerful itching which may start as
    small electrical shocks
    __ Very fast heartbeat while relaxed (not having
    exercised recently)
    __ Very high body heat, no fever, relaxed, cool
    surroundings
    __ Vibration, large area of your body, or, nearby
    objects which should not vibrate normally
    __ Forced awakening, can’t go back to sleep, as if
    on high doses of caffeine
    __ Vivid 3-D images while awake, eyes open or
    closed
    __ Urges to go somewhere you don’t need to or at
    times you would not go there
    __ Neighbors can see through walls, possibly by sounds
    from them which “follow” you
    __ Repeated instances where it seems your mind is
    being read
    __ Repeated evidence of break-ins, small scale thefts,
    and sabotage both at home and at work
    __ Sudden “drop-you-in-your-tracks” fatigue at
    times you should not be tired

    Comment by foj — July 30, 2008 @ 11:29 pm

  146. “65. At several times relevant to this case, the lights on the side of the street turn off during the night and on during the day when plaintiff is driving or walking with his children.”

    http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:Ev8RkYoBpDkJ:www.mindcontrolforums.com/v/jmm.htm+Jesus+Mendoza+Maldonado+street+light&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

    Comment by foj — July 30, 2008 @ 11:34 pm

  147. sorry for the quadruple post, but perhaps this light phenomenon is simply another tactic to make people go insane. this is most likely the case in my opinion.

    i also forget to mention that a couple days ago i was being harassed by a car while driving, through means of excessive tailgating and honking of the horn at random times (most likely an act of “sensitization”). it became clear to me that this person was obviously a perpetrator.

    i decided to get behind the car where we came up to a red light and stopped. the car had a sticker on the back that said “_____ Baptist Church” (forgot the name). this didn’t surprise me, as my research has concluded that many, if not most of the individuals who participate in gangstalking claim to be christians. however i know they are none other than modern day pharisees.

    “How terrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous.” [matthew 23:29]

    Comment by foj — July 31, 2008 @ 5:00 am

  148. There is no magic to making lights of any kind go on and off. You can open your garage door, can’t you?

    Why anyone or corrupt groups of people would participate in these crimes is beyond me, but it seems to be a part of insane citizens organizations throughout the United States.

    Comment by theman — July 31, 2008 @ 9:57 am

  149. To owner of this blog:
    Would it be possible to delete my blogging from this roll? It was suggested that my vague description could fit hundreds. I would never want an innocent person to be incriminated. The numbers are 111 and 114.
    Also, I would like mine removed too: Go Rilla and the number is 120. date 6/29/08
    Thanks
    Bern and Go Rilla

    Comment by Go Rilla — July 31, 2008 @ 9:30 pm

  150. .
    Gang stalking does exist.
    .
    The police and federal/state/local governments know all about it.
    .
    These are the types of crimes we would expect from Fascists, Communists or the KKK.
    .
    It is amazing these hate groups operate out in the open while the FBI/State Police/Local Police pretend not to notice.
    .
    But if you have a joint they will bust you in a second.
    .
    So basically, poisoning and stalking people is OK in the USA . but you better not smoke a joint.
    .

    Comment by gangstalked in DC — August 25, 2008 @ 12:06 am

  151. oh the hypocrisy of it all, huh DC?

    you know, ever since i came to the conclusion that i was being gang stalked/electronically surveyed, it really illuminated these people’s utter hypocrisy. shouldn’t they spend more time looking at themselves rather than some random person living next door? wouldn’t they benefit more by criticizing their own personal faults than those of their fellow brothers?

    jesus said something about these hypocrites. he told them to take the plank of wood out of their own eye before looking at the speck of sawdust in their brother’s eye.

    but then i feel as though i am a hypocrite when i look at the faults of these criminals. indeed, this is something i need to work on. my mind is far too often attempting to fathom the evil and lack of conscience in these individuals. however i am learning to ignore these sinister people with increasing measure, by putting my eyes on celestial things above, and not on earthly things.

    oh yes and one more thing. these individuals believe their schemes are “secret”. indeed they are secret from many people, but not from god – not from omnipotence and deity. they can only do as much as god lets them. in fact, it is my belief that god is using them to bring me close to him. my faith has never been stronger in all my life. indeed, i have lost the world but gained the only thing that matters: jesus christ. i strongly believe that if i wasn’t being persecuted, i would not be saved at all. surely if i was out in the world without any hindrance whatsoever, and living it up, i would not need god. however now he is all that i have.

    jesus said these criminals “have their reward in full”. they have money, riches and pleasure in this temporary earthly life. however, then they will live an eternity of torment in hell.

    Comment by foj — September 2, 2008 @ 9:21 pm

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  153. Gang stalking is real. Recently information has come out that fusion centers have been formed in just about every state. These centers are basically hold information about citizens for your 1st responders, police, FBI, etc to access and share. The idea was that there was no way for different agencies to access each others information during investigations or national emergencies. Unfortunately there is nothing in the way of Federal guidelines about how these centers are run or how they obtain information. There was a story on Democracy Now about how 1st responders, utility workers, hospital workers are being trained as “terrorism liaison officers” to spy on people for the purpose of spotting possible terrorists. It’s very disturbing that someone with almost no training is able to blacklist an individual without any verification of any wrong doing on that persons part. This sort of community spying has made it possible to abuse the system for personal gain. Virginia passed a law denying Virginia citizens the right via the Freedom of Information Act to find out if they have been put on a watch (terrorist)list. Most people who are being harassed have no idea why. Unfortunately these people don’t just watch their targets but they actively follow a pattern of increased harassment to totally destroy the persons life.

    Comment by jen — October 18, 2008 @ 6:40 pm

  154. I NEED TO TALK TO SOMEONE ABOUT WHATS BEEN HAPPENING TO ME.YHINK I AM GOING INSANE BUT HOW CAN THE SAME THINGS HAPPEN IN MY PREVIOUS HOME AND NOW IN AN APARTMENT BLOCK.FEEL LIKE COMMITING SUICIDE PEOPLE WONT BELIEVE ME

    Comment by KARIN DE SOUSA — October 30, 2008 @ 10:59 pm

  155. KARIN DE SOUSA,

    moving does not seem to stop these individuals.

    please don’t commit suicide. i was almost driven to do such a thing not too long ago, and then i cried out to god, and he saved me.

    although this crime (gangstalking) is still being carried out against me, i have such an inner peace that i have never had before.

    please, KARIN DE SOUSA, and anyone else who is a victim of this crime – seek god, and you will find him. cry out to him, and he will answer you just like he did to me.

    “Keep asking, and it will be given to you. Keep searching, and you will find. Keep knocking, and the door will be opened for you.” -jesus

    “Come to me, all of you who are weary and loaded down with burdens, and I will give you rest.” -jesus

    Comment by james — November 1, 2008 @ 7:32 pm

  156. hi , i understand the gravity of this issue.
    I think we should unit and fight these bastards the way they deserve to be fought.
    I propose we should create a “secret” organization that attacks them from the roots. we need volunteers ready to sacrifice their routine and spend the biggest part of their time with us planning when and where to take action.
    We will need of course some kind of financial support to fulfill our plans but most of all we will need to spread the belief that our actions are right (justice will be done).
    As I said we need volunteers willing to join us.
    Enough, enough,enough…
    Stop being a victim, stop questioning yourself, wipe off your tears, don’t complain about it anymore.
    IT is time to take action, to move on and meet our enemies face to face.Lets dig them out of their rabbit holes, let show them that we are the one that will prevail, not them.
    Together we will prevail.
    Join me, join us NOW.
    write me and we will go country by country, city by city, door by door and free you from this inferno.
    my email: angangers_x@yahoo.com

    Comment by billy — November 11, 2008 @ 12:41 am

  157. Unfortunately, The methods of gang stalking are becoming advanced. Realtime monitoring cellphone picture taking, texting, CB radio, and meetings discussing the victim are in place. Some police are involved in gang stalking. Crime Watch groups are involved. If the Gov’t is currently experimenting with DEW and other tech weapons. I cannot say, but I will say those with military ties are definitely a part of this phenomenon. I believe that there are two cases here going on at once, one The Gov’t may experimenting on people with these weapons, and two, There are rogue crime watch groups that have gotten out of hand and paid harassing perps hired to destroy peoples lives without the use of a bullet. I have no definite answers about it. We definitely need to redefine our perception of Paranoid Delusions the definitions that are available are too vague, and when people who are not mentally ill complain of this phenomenon immediately people think they are crazy. I have seen mentally ill people before that have had paranoid delusions. People with paranoid delusions do not need to involve others into their delusions at all. People with paranoid delusions accept their delusions without seeking rational sane solutions for them. The fact that you want a rational sane end to this torment by advocating awareness and solutions for gang stalking separates you from the mentally ill with paranoid delusions. Many people don’t believe in God or the Bible. God is real and satan is real also. This is a spiritual attack manifested into our realm of reality. Get with God or die. It’s that simple we are near Endgame The prophecy has been told, and these acts are just the beginning of the end. Read Revelations in the Bible again. I love and empathize with all of the victims. My true joy is there is a God and Judgment Day is coming AMEN!!!!!! These people will not get away with this abuse of God’s creation. Jesus’s Blood will make you clean for the coming Judgment accept his sacrifice. God bless ya!!! Keep the FAITH in God thru JESUS.

    Comment by Brina — November 15, 2008 @ 12:36 pm

  158. time is indeed short – for these individuals’ crimes and our suffering.

    most of these perpetrators actually believe they’ll be doing this for numerous more years.

    little do they know the events that will soon transpire on this planet…

    Comment by james — November 19, 2008 @ 7:22 am

  159. I DO KNOW FOR CERTAIN THAT OUR WORLD IS CHANGING AND WE MUST CHANGE FOR EARTH AND HUMANITIES SAKE. IF NOT WE WILL BECOME EXSTINCT FROM THE GREED AND POWER OF A FEW. WE THE PEOPLE ON THIS USA NEED TO REMOVE THOSE TYRANTS AND CANCERS THAT IF NOT REMOVED FROM OUR USA AND REPLACED WITH GOOD FOR ALL WHO LOVE THERE FREEDOM AND LIFESTYLES THEN WE WILL NOT LIVE FREE INSTEAD TURN INTO A PEOPLE WHERE FREEDOMS WAS NO LONGER A PRIORITY 1 SECURITY FROM THOSE WHO IN THE NAME OF TERRORIST HAVE PEVAILED BY SHOWING US THIS TRUTH THAT THE REAL TERRORIST IS A WELL ORGAIZED GOVERNMENT BACKED CRIMINAL ACTS TO TAKE DOWN OUR COUNTRY AND TURN IT IN TO THE 4TH REIC.. WHERE WE DESIRE FEAR AS A WAY OUR CHILDREN WILL GROW UP WITHOUT A CHOICE OR VOICE TO THEIR PERSONAL HAPPINESS .WE NEED TO TAKE BACK OUR LIVES AND I GUARANTEE IF YOUR EFFORTS TO STOP THESE CRIMES DONT INCREASE ALOT MORE THEN YOUR GOING TO SEE AND EVIL THAT SEES YOU AS FOOD FOR THERE HATE INDUCED WAYS , I KNOW THAT GANGSTALKING IS REAL AND IS A TOOL FOR DOMESTIC TERRORIST BASED ON HATE.THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SACRIFICED THERE LIVES TO DEFERND OUR CONSTITUTION AND TO ALL SECRET TYPE SOCIETIES WHO FOLLOW THIS CULT OF PURE HATE YOU SPIT ON EVERY SOLDIERS GRAVE THAT DIED DEFENDING THE BILL OF RIGHTS WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL AS THERE GIFT TO THE LAND OF THE FREE .THESE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ESTABLISH HATE FEED OFF THE VICTIMS FEAR INDUCED TERROR AND JUSTIFY THERE ACTIONS AS A WAY TO A BETTER SOCIETY BASED ON HATE FOR THOSE WHO LIVE A NON THREATENING DIFFERENT LIFESTYLE TO THERE OWN ARE TO BE CONDEMNED . I HAVE DOCUMENTED COURT CASE WHEN A VICTIM FINALY HAD ENOUGH AND ENDED BY HIM PULLING OUT A GUN AND KILLING TWO PERPETRAITORS,WE GATHERED ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO WHERE THE JURY FOUND HIM NOT GUILTY [ALL LL 12] ON THE GROUNDS IF JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE ON 1ST DEGTEE MURDER 2 COUNTS .. WE PUT TOGETHER A TEAM OF PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS THAT WORKED WITH ME AND A FEW OTHERS THIS EVIDENCE PROVED THAT THE POLICE SUPPORTED AND HELPED TERRORIZED THIS MAN ALONG WITH ORGANIZED GANG MEMBERS FROM STREET GANGS THE MOST FEAR CAME THOUGH HIS OWN CRIMEWATCH GROUPS THAT STALKED HIM AND DID IT HAND IN HAND AS IF IT WAS THERE DUTY TU HELP THUGS [CRIME FIGURES]AND THE POLICE PERFORM MENTAL ATTACKS ON HIS SANITY.THIS DID REALY HAPPEN 3 YRS AGO.SO TO THOSE WHO DONT THINK THEY CAN BEAT THE ODDS THINK SMART AND DONT GIVE INTO FEAR..IM NOT MUCH IF A WRITER I KNOW AND PLEASE DONT START SHOOTING AT PEOPLE .YOU NEED TO CONTACT PEOPLE IN YOUR LOCAL AREA AND KNOW YOUR WORTH A LOT TO THOSE WHO NEED YOUR IDEAS AND EXPERIENCES EXSPESSED,TO INSPIRE COURAGE AND REALIZE FEAR IS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO FEEL SO DONT LET THEM FEED OFF YOU BY SHOWING IT. JIM4HOPE

    Comment by JIM4HOPE — November 21, 2008 @ 4:03 pm

  160. There is a growing number of people experiencing this crime. I have been a victim for several years now. I have no criminal history or background.I have experienced electronic harassment along with other types of harassment. I have experienced a home made bomb that was exploded in my mail box that was capable of killing me or my children,a pet poisoned and multiple attempts to run me and other family members off the rode. I can go on for hours about the harassment. One theme that is consistent is that when the local police are contacted that they are unwilling to provide any assistance to the victims of these sorts of crimes. The corruption is at all levels. It is pretty evident that with all the deregulation there is no system of checks and balances to bring corrupt organizations under control. After the terrorist attacks the American people have given up their civil liberties and let these organizations give themselves unlimited powers which has opened the door for organized crime. It is my hope with a new administration will put the country back to where it once was.

    Comment by jen — December 15, 2008 @ 4:42 pm

  161. I was liberated to have a name for my Condition.After seven years, of constant harrassment,police intimidation, brighting, Anchoring,people photographing me blatantly,repeatedly, being stalked in my vehicle, attacked in public.loss of friends and familly.The use of antidepressants. This Gang Stalking is real, and its happening all over the world.I have been harrased in two cities, of the same country, and stalked in england, where i feel the possibillity of Low frequency weapons, may have been used, as i experienced strange symptoms.
    These people are sociopathic.I almost comitted suicide, and started to use antidepressants, to quell the Fear.
    I had a radical Change,When i had aLife changing experience with God. its not too bad Now But atleast Eternity has some positive aspects.And im sure their will be no Gangstalking in Heaven/However Church will not stop the Gang stalker, I have been mobbed, and harrassed, in Church, but never mind…..Their Judgement will Come.
    Its a rough ride, but as long as you keep your focus be Strong and Pray, You have Nothing to Fear.
    I have not Given up! The carnal fight still lingers, God keeps me spiritually intact, But i will fight these sick twisted humans, and reveal their identities.
    God bless

    Comment by Ben — December 18, 2008 @ 7:32 pm

  162. Im dying inside today……….Help me God

    Comment by Ben — December 20, 2008 @ 1:22 pm

  163. I am a San Diego victim of police masonic torture. call me. 619 298-4302.

    Comment by Dave — December 27, 2008 @ 4:05 am

  164. I am the target of a covert operation of the National Security Agency which is involved in Remote Neural Monitoring, Gang Stalking, satellite delivered electronic torture, visual and acoustical projections.

    For more information about Remote Neural Monitoring click on the below-listed hyperlink.

    http://www.freedomfchs.com/remoteneuralmonitoring2.pdf

    This became happening to me in 2003, days after my former girlfriend and I dissolved our relationship. Her father, Robert Gunn, PhD is a clinical psychologist with the Veterans Affairs Hospital in Ann Arbor, Michigan.

    Gunn began his career in 1996. He was part of the tame of researchers involved in the notorious MKUltra mind control experiments involving LSD.

    Gunn deprogrammed POWs of the WWII, KW and VW era. He harnessed his clicnil knowledge of POW torture and employed it in the development of the Strategic Defense Initiative’s satellite delivered mind control project.

    Consider this, each of us as a distinct finger print, corneal print, genetic code (DNA) and a brain frequency. The brain is composed of wires (neurons). These neurons transmit electrical radio frequencies.

    I suffer from voice-to-skull transmissions and body shocks.

    I take no joy in describing my plight. My family has been tortured, my sister has been wrongfully diagnosed as schizophrenic/paranoia and was wrongfully given shock therapy.

    Read the document regarding Remote Neural Monitoring.

    The NSA is nothing more than a group of NAZIs.

    What a shame. God Bless America. Unfortunately, there is no such thing as devine intervention.

    I am former network news correspondent. I hope that provides you with some sense of my credibility.

    Comment by newsman — December 29, 2008 @ 7:46 am

  165. ATTENTION VICTIMS OF GANG STALKING AND MIND CONTROL.

    In an effort to convince the national news media to expose these crimes of the NSA, I urge you to send concise, factual, non-rambling, educated-sounding e-mails to ABC News Chief Investigative Correspondent Brian Ross.

    TRY NOT TO SOUND CRAZY!!

    brian.e.ross@disneymail.com

    Comment by newsman — December 29, 2008 @ 7:55 am

  166. my friends, listen to me:

    i am not a prophet, but i can assure you that time is very short. this current economic crisis is only the beginning for planet earth. many undesirable events are going to transpire VERY soon. we will begin to see the beginning stages of the end of the age, as talked about by the myans and even the bible itself, among many other sources.

    this is good news for us victims of this crime. it is bad news for the wicked people in this world, and those who are involved with this gangstalking crime, because their party is soon going to end. many of them actually believe they will be doing this for numerous more years. likewise, many gangstalking victims think they will be targeted for numerous more years. but it will soon end.

    i am personally a christian. i say this with the up most sincerity: make sure you are right with god. he will give you peace and contentment that is beyond comprehension, in spite of the troubles and afflictions that may surround you . i can personally testify to this reality.

    “Come to me, all of you who are weary and loaded down with burdens, and I will give you rest.” -Jesus
    “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.” -Jesus

    this message also pertains to any perpetrators/criminals who may be reading this. paul the apostle was a fierce persecutor of the church before he was converted, so it is more than possible for you to change your ways. but know that your time is running out. you WILL NOT be doing this much longer. not only will your current lifestyle soon abruptly cease to exist, but many problems will be replaced. judgment is indeed coming. you may not think so, but you will soon find out for yourself.

    redemption is coming for many people. condemnation is coming for many people. the tables will soon be turned – sooner than you think.

    Comment by james — January 6, 2009 @ 7:18 pm

  167. I’ve been targeted since Sep 2008, but my harassment doesn’t seem like classic gangstalking. I think there may be a lot of other victims like myself who fall in this category.
    I’m experiencing voice to skull induction, attacks by directed energy weapons, and some sort of mind programming. However, my targeters are more bothersome than ‘mean’. While they are unbelievably frustrating with their repetitiveness and their endlessness, they do not hurl insults at me constantly, and I have not had the experience of coming home to ripped clothing, etc.
    If you are a victim who’s experiences are more like mine than they are like the regular definition of gangstalking, I hope you will continue to search for an answer regarding what you are going through that fits better than this one. Don’t get me wrong, it is gangstalking of a type. Obviously, it is also highly organized. However, my feeling is that my responses to this victimization are being studied and catalouged. I think the idea is to learn about what it would take to control large numbers of people simultaneously with these technologies.
    I hope you will keep searching, as I am, and remember that through unity we victims will find the answers to stopping this abuse, whether they are political answers such as accountability through the laws, or technological countermeasures which combat these tortures of the mind and body.

    Comment by ginababy — February 9, 2009 @ 6:20 am

  168. Thanks James for putting a capon this! Jesus is the way….Why would he create such humans to inflict such sinister pain.I saw satan fall from heaven.

    Comment by ben — February 9, 2009 @ 9:38 pm

  169. Do not count on Divine Intervention. A class action lawsuit is underway. Contact: wilsonlawcenter.com. Funds are needed.

    If you want to harass one of the prominent harassers contact Robert Gunn, PhD of Ann Arbor, Michigan. 734-786-8079. He is among the primary developers of the NSA’s Psychological Warfare Operations (PSYOPS). Send him an e-mail.

    The law and violence is the only way to deal with Nazis. Do not kid yourself that this will disappear.

    An Eye for an Eye.

    Comment by I-Know — March 2, 2009 @ 1:31 am

  170. I’ve kept myself distracted for the last several months where I took up training in a different and highly practical career trade. I’ve never done this type of work before so my mind has been fixed on that, rather than on any of my usual anxieties related to the evilness of GS. Going in to the training environs, I took a chance preparing myself for any potential ‘encounters’ head-on. (I basically only trust in The Lord!) While there has been adversity perhaps reminding me of my suspicions about others (some of it rings of GS), I had been keeping my mind preoccupied with my tasks and assessments. I felt stretched and could see other interesting perspectives. Training is something I found helpful when feeling overwhelmed by my GS experiences. Its a battlefield for the mind. Also the power of words: do encourage each other with positive morale-boosting words, and I believe we can defeat this evilness of GS. I wish that God blesses all of you.

    Comment by proudchristiangirl — March 4, 2009 @ 2:09 pm

  171. this box just appeared on my screen. The stalker made it appear. Sherrystclair@mac.com

    Comment by sherrystclair — March 25, 2009 @ 6:01 pm

  172. Don’t worry. There must be something pretty special and unique about you for them to want to watch you twenty four hours a day. Just pretend they are the reporters and you are a celebrity and they are obsessed with your spirit. You hold the power and they know it or that wouldn’t be there. Just smile and treat them nice and they’ll become your alter egos, your pals and confidents in the shadows that watch your every move like the tooth fairy and santa clause. They be there all the time just watching you for entertainment. Now if you were a drama queen you’d love the attention. Think about, you’ll never be alone or frightened, their always there. They can call the police if an intruder passes by that isn’t them. They keep notes of all your actions and watch your deeds like a personal diary. They can keep you in check and bring out the best in you and help you to appreciate life and the beauty of the planet just through nature and friendship and the things you normally take for granted. After a while you’ll start to miss them when they aren’t there because you sorta build an attachment to the strangers in the distance because they haven’t anyplace to go but by your side.I kinda feel sorry for them. They can’t use their voice and they’re always watching. We don’t even throw them a bone. It must be terribly depressing to be living the world through my eyes because I’m a pretty boring person sometimes and I must really be aggravating the piss out of them.

    Comment by sherrystclair — March 27, 2009 @ 6:03 am

  173. i have questions for them

    Do you like staring at the walls of my house? Do you feel like a vampire coming out every night after dark? Do you feel like a clone or zombie of the people who control you and pay your? salary do you think they are a bit nuts to give you on a such a stupid assignment? If you were going to watch someone wouldn’t you pick the president of the united states or a a scholar, leonardo devinnci, michael angelo or someone a little more entertaining? Even the police hate surveilance and think they don’t get paid enough. There isn’t any action happening in my world. Don’t ya get terribly board and question your sanity? Is the pay worth the tiresome nights and boredom? Are you sworn to secrecy? Why watch us period and struggle to torment us unless the people hiring you are sadistic and crazy? It makes sense they are evil.

    If it feels a crazed need to torment someone and it makes you feel powerful like a drug addict with a rush than maybe you should be counseling and see why your reality is so dark you have fun in this twisted way. Seriously if this gives you fun your must really be lacking. Pray

    Comment by sherrystclair — March 27, 2009 @ 6:18 am

  174. Who is really the slave here?

    Comment by sherrystclair — March 27, 2009 @ 6:23 am

  175. I hate to see it but this on line stalker is brilliant. He’s shown me more tricks and a different universe than college or television. He’s masterful

    Comment by sherrystclair — March 27, 2009 @ 6:27 am

  176. Ask yourself
    have they lasted longer than your marriage or personal relationships in the real world? Have they ever physically battered you? Maybe they feel an attachment to you and just won’t say. Maybe they feel less alone and occupy your time in cyberworld and reality in ways friends and family wouldn’t.

    Comment by sherrystclair — March 27, 2009 @ 6:32 am

  177. Out of state police are quite familiar with a crime called electric stalking. Just find a white knight to be your hero.

    Comment by sherrystclair — March 27, 2009 @ 10:48 pm

  178. hang in there, sherrystclair.

    it won’t be long now…

    Comment by james — March 28, 2009 @ 4:21 am

  179. Thanks dear James. A White Knight has given me my second wind. They’re as rare as unicorns but if one steps into your realm, you’re blessed, life is heavenly.

    Funny girls how things can change in a day. The secret is making connections, getting solid proof, fighting with everything in your spirit and exposing evil. Don’t lose faith in God or heart. With the right angels in life we can expel the darkness.. It takes hope and trust . Pray each evening to God. Believe in yourself, the higher power and all the beautiful magical things sacred and dear still existing on the planet. Evil people are few they just struggle to seem like an army and keep you in a hole. The only grave is dug by you. You can’t only be trapped and surrounded by predators if you don’t reach out and seek the good doers with caring hearts and bravery.

    I was blessed by Pope John Paul a few years ago. Afterwards I met a caring saint who is truly a white knight. I envision this person caring a sword and slashing the demons. I get good vibes in their company and the light was restored. God sent them to me because I dared to reach into the unknown and trust and seek his vision to guide me. Just pray that he reaches into your mind and spirit and helps lead you to the right source. If we are to disappear from this planet just be sure you need enough evidence to prove the crime. Take pictures, leave diary, computer hard drives with police. Record daily events, bring people into your circle. You do not suffer alone and grow fearful. Don’t be afraid of bullies. Evil is weak. When you find yourself a white Knight you’ll see how they work alone because the don’t need armies to be strong. They are just sent by God. They have his strength and light and they will battle for you. They are protectors of the innocent and meek. Trust in people who can make a difference in your life. Knock on every door. Don’t go down without a fight. Trust in your instinct and seek answers every day and go to your local library or wherever you have to. Fight for your cause and kick and struggle to the finish. Put as many dents in their world as you can.

    Comment by sherrystclair — March 28, 2009 @ 5:09 pm

  180. My problem was taken care of. I hope yours will be soon.

    Comment by Sherry — April 4, 2009 @ 5:02 am

  181. The vast majority of this is misinformation, with the exception of the great money & power post by anonymous. This is the Free Masons, protestants mostly, probably around 150,000,000 or so base on a recruitment campaign. They elect the government, they are the medias base, etc. They have of course, targeted law enforcement for infiltration. These Masons are into pedophilia, sadomasochism, beastiality, drug dealing and manufacturing, mass murder, burglary & theft, you name it. Write out a list of everything amoral and make it a “moral code” and that is there belief system. They go after young girls, the disabled, the elderly, etc. Anybody who thinks these are criminals that they are stalking and murdering are very much mistaken. It’s based off of anything that is a threat to them and there religion. This can be personality, politics, business, anything. They work in the long term and the primary goal of there efforts over recent years is in division, I have so much evidence prepared against these groups, names, license plate numbers, victims, etc. I feel that the primary goal of gang stalker victims and the unaware should be in a form of getting together, exposing there crimes, size and as such government infiltration and then to perform acts of lawsuits, rioting, targeted-violence and boycotting. The evidence that I have is irrefutable and I have several witnesses who are in there 30s-50s with not so much as a parking ticket on there record.

    Comment by James — April 19, 2009 @ 9:01 pm

  182. Don’t see this as a prejudiced statement but, for me this goes back to me being 9 years old and a catholic, with Lutherans in my neighborhood spraying my house with “Satanist” graffiti, beating up my sisters, etc. Well, all of the tactics used by these people in there cars and with street theater are the same that were done by 9-12 year olds on there bikes and within my community when I was a kid. They were being trained at a very young age. Anyway recently one of the gang stalkers who is after a family member of mine, brought her 5 year old daughter to our house and in her hand was a book she got from the Church she is attending. The entire thing was essentially a training manual for hand signs, what they mean, who to trust and who to take orders from.

    Comment by James — April 19, 2009 @ 9:09 pm

  183. Of the six victims I have tracked so far, including myself, all have been catholic or of catholic origin. Four are deceased, all of them 16 years or under and female. All of them have had slight disabilities: learning, mental/emotional, size, etc. Primary method of targeting has been through social networking using the search functions and also through publicly available genealogical research to find relatives.

    Comment by James — April 19, 2009 @ 9:28 pm

  184. This is not including resulting suicides, as in several cases people related to the victim (friends) also committed suicide. For instance: http://www.whas11.com/topstories/stories/040407whasmjdTopTeenSuicide.310c019a.html

    Also, both of my parents also passed away within the years I have been gang stalked, both of them being exposed to it as well. My father I was witnessed to, where as my mother simply left full Dominos Pizza boxes around her house, even though she was diabetic and couldn’t eat pizza.

    Comment by James — April 19, 2009 @ 9:39 pm

  185. Valley Girl:
    Contact Freedom From Covert Harassment and Surveillance
    derrickcrobinson@gmail.com
    and you can be directed to a support group in the Los Angeles area.

    Comment by Go Rilla — April 23, 2009 @ 12:32 am

  186. the only thing helping me out at the moment is the thought that i will not be enduring this much longer. these criminals are truly oblivious to the events that are going to unfold; this economic crisis is nothing.

    how do i know this? well, i could say much in response to such a question. but i will just say that i had a revelatory experience about a year and a half ago. this event revealed to me, among other things, that planet earth is nearing the end of the age and that contrary to popular belief, it will not all go down solely in 2012. rather, the cataclysmic events will begin transpiring very, very soon.

    but in regards to the initial words in my post, has anyone heard of a pole shift? well, this cataclysmic event looks to kick-off the horrible period of time known as the “time of testing”, more commonly called the “great tribulation”. that is, it is horrible for those who have not recognized their wickedness and subsequently fled to jesus christ, the king of this universe. no doubt all gangstalkers fall in this category. they are standing on the edge of a cliff, and they do not even know it, because the very people they work for, whom they believe have their best interest, have blindfolded them.

    consequently i know i should not be angry with these individuals. although it is indeed difficult, i am trying to develop energies of forgiveness and benevolence toward them. we should be pitying these people, for although it’s hard to see at times, they are in reality in more of a predicament than we are.

    but yes, the tables will soon be turned. we are very close now. my advice to my fellow victims is to seek jesus christ in this calm before the storm.

    “Because you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will keep you from the time of testing which is coming upon all the world to test those living on the earth.” -Jesus

    best regards, fellow soldiers

    Comment by the other "james" — May 4, 2009 @ 2:30 am

  187. The idea of ‘gangstalking’ is not new infact and it goes much further than just ‘electronic’ devices. My stalking started at a very early age from particular groups in the community who did not like my parents. From bullying in school to teachers ignoring reports becase they were friends to the victims dad made it all the worse. Then in high school the violence intensified with little being done to help me and some joining in on the pact mentality. They have targeted certain people because they have ‘gifts’ that pose a threat to the people who have been hiding allot of things for many hundred years-

    You can be a target because-
    1. You families history- especially if you family was a member of the armed forces, police, civil
    service or any civillian/ govt post that had significant power or knowledge most people in the
    general community.
    2. You are attractive, above average intelligence/ cognicence or have the capability to get
    others informed or entertained.
    3. You are a gentle soul- you’d never go toward violence only if were for self defense or
    protection of another. Helping other people is more than a natural instinct its what makes
    us truly human- and obviously a threat to those who dwell in neagtive energy.
    4. You not afraid to stand up for what you truly believe in and protect others less fourtunate-
    contrary to Pharises view of the world.
    5. You had a ‘experience’ with a higher power and others are now attacting you? Demons hate
    the light. I survived a near fatal car accident and now they concertating their attacks since.
    You may also research subjects that people ignore everything from ‘real’ alternate energy
    to natural healing methods.
    Sorry demons you cannot kill a messenger from God that easy.Its come to you 10 fold :)
    6. You see the world in a different way to popular thoughtspace- now a target
    7. Your a whistleblower to major crime, corruption and secret dealings and have been economically
    socially and mentally attacked as a result.

    My Grandfather was a member of the SS on the Russian Front and know Von Braun and other high in the heirachy. He died under mysterious circumstances in the 90′s probably due to ODESSA. Who
    said it died after 1945. Operation Paperclip is all I need to say. Check out Marsboy on MK_ulta mind weapons and MONARCH the New Phoenix program. I am now a target for these people and maybe
    others who are in league with them. They will not suceed. They are trying to start WWIII in the current chaos with the economic collapse and whatever else they have in store for us.

    Please don’t treat the police, armed forces or even the intelligence community with suspicion.
    Evil grows in different places, organisations and religions- there is no house of evil otherwise
    its all to easy to find. There are also good Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, Buddhists, Freemasons and other secret societies who know whats going on as well with dismay. There
    are no easy answers on these ‘semi-silent attacks’ and intelligence like tactics used by the assailants.

    I feel the more these fools stick their heads out- the more they themselves are being targeted
    for prosecution from law enforcement or their own peers when they find this out. In the movie
    the Good Shepard the young spy is warned to leave the organisation- before his loses his soul.
    Some people will do almost anything to destoy a person- so ask for help from above-

    I can tell you God listens and makes all my pain and fear go away.

    Disinfo people exist everywhere. They use the same tactics and calling cards for the wary.

    God bless one and all.

    Comment by OSG ex-Hitman — May 22, 2009 @ 3:39 am

  188. I’m a Thai citizen, living in Thailand. I’m a victim of gang stalking too, for almost a year now.
    I believed those bastards beam their infra sonic at my left feet 24/7, distracting me every fucking day, trying to make me go nuts … I’ve a hard time going through their never ending phycology game.
    Every day distraction, make me had less concentration on my job, and I think one of their objective is to make me loose my job, eventually, and I’m still fighting hard.

    Recently I had a solution on how to minimize pain on my left foot. I went to buy a metal head shoe (for industry use), and wear it to work. It kind of help but not 100%, at least make it harder for those bastards to have a direct shot on my toe. Keep on sniping you ass holes out there!

    Comment by pochara — June 16, 2009 @ 9:02 am

  189. I have been a victim for almost forty years since i was 10 years old i am now 46. I do honestly believe my parents are to blame for this as it couldn’t be anybody else. My parents have always given me financial support yet when i need emotional support they are not there..they have even gona as far as laugh at me down the phone when ive cried in desperation. ive found the best way to beat the system is to ignore it of course you cant ignore everything..if you have a problem sort it out just like any other person would not accusing those around you of a conspiracy…they will do there best to make it look like someone is guilty of conspiring against you but be assured they will have a alternative motive and you will just end up looking crazy. Don’t take any notice of your stalkers again what they want is a reaction. All provable things done against you will only be done occasionally so they can put it down to bad luck everything else will not be provable and make you look mentally ill if you report them or talk about them. only record provable actions against you and how often they occur. if you use a camera to record your stalkers and you find someone at the same spot everyday wearing the the same clothes for example try to record the situation as you leave your house and predict a situation before you get there…once might be a coincidence to or three times in a row is not. I had several different people waiting outside the same shop wearing black sunglasses a red backpack for several days in a row soon as i started recording it it stopped. it will get to the stage where you think everybody is a stalker ..when you get to this stage tell yourself its all in your imagination and ignore all coincidences… smile and walk past don’t let it get to you. YOU can ruin there day by not letting them upset yours! I have no anger towards them i just feel sorry for them.

    Comment by terry — July 13, 2009 @ 5:31 pm

  190. what you said is so true, terry, about these people wanting a reaction.

    these criminals are completely full of unrest and discontent. they themselves are in many ways in as much of a predicament as the victims themselves, and they know it – whether it be consciously or subconsciously.

    these people do not know peace, they desire confrontation, and wish to drag us down to their level.

    they are full of pride and arrogance. you cannot fight fire with fire. therefore what we need is humility and understanding. once we understand them we will not be angry at them but will rather learn to pity their condition more than ours.

    take care my friends

    Comment by james — July 22, 2009 @ 9:32 pm

  191. I am a target since March, 2009. The person, or group who is responsible was on Sirius Satellite Radio, Google Finance, also other stocks like ACTC, SPNG, and FAZ. They are CIA Black Ops, and part of MKUltra, or the Phoenix project. The police in my city are in on it, they stalk me also. The Freemasons are all stalking me here. My doctor keeps sending me appointments that I don’t make, and I have warned him to stop. We are followed everywhere, including on planes and hotels, and everywhere I go on the roads. They have been in our house several times. The last time they arranged a huge street theater with our city police, stalking me and my two children out of Wal Mart with 4 police cars, while they entered our home at the same time. There was a man slowly walking down the sidewalk when I arrived home, to let me know what they had done. A few days later I saw him and his TWIN in a vehicle driving down my street. They almost look like they are white guys with fake brown skin, and fake mustaches. They look like Morgan Freeman. One of them approached my daughter in the airport and asked her to illustrate a children’s book, then he came to her and handed her his phone and said “Here, tell her who you are so she will know who to expect. Google is working with them, I am pretty sure. I have a new neighbor who is a radiologist from Poland that I suspect is part of it all. Our renters across the street are also being targeted. He lost his job after 10 years after the company hired a new IT person. They have four children to support. I am in such shock over this whole thing happening to me in my own country, America, and the police being in on it and stalking me is so sad because they are trying to cause me to react or have an accident. I am an American mom, just an average person who has never hurt anyone. I reported the hackers for hacking my computer and tapping my phones, but now I know it was the CIA, so why would they care if I reported them to the police because they are all in on it together. Even the FBI would not talk to me, they are in on it also. Everyone is afraid of the Illuminati. They took the stock market down, and they are planning a mass genocide in America. GOD HELP US ALL.

    Comment by ella — July 26, 2009 @ 8:04 pm

  192. Rest in Peace Michael Jackson – Murdered by gangstalker’s using DEW.

    Comment by trueconspiracy — August 7, 2009 @ 4:46 am

  193. I am also a victim of gangstalking/harassment. I had a terribkle ordeal last year, after spending thousands working with a christian counselor and clearing my head, I realized what the sociopath (trained counselor labeled them, not me)and his wife and my ex best friend had done to me, I blew the whistle, I was angry, uncaring of any possible retaliation.
    Well the wife of the sociopath-who has deviant, malicious types of behaviors,has been disciplined and exposed for what she is/ and what she has done at my former work.

    Ling story short-I now get harassed by her teen, teens’ peers and other strangers using beeping, yelling, in front of my house, street theater, and people slashed spouses’s tire, and had two episodes in one month where someone late eve banged on side of house loudly, I called the police last wed, since wed not one horn beeped or person yelled out,but this am, on my way to work the car (there have been many)that was beeping at us last week 3 x’s, was now parked next to my house in a nursing home parking lot idling there car, I passed them on the road, they quickly pulled behind me where they could have easily pulled out in fornt of me,I pulled over waited for them to pass,wrote down there lic plate number and now they are speeding off(where they drove slow before)
    and quickly turned away

    I am building a case about the gangstalking against her-this will add to it-basically the lying, cheating, manipulative mother is now using her daughter to revenge me for blowing the whistle on her at work where she was not only discplined, but also is now exposed for who/what she is

    Comment by cathy — September 14, 2009 @ 2:51 pm

  194. Its Freemasonry responsible for this. These people are lower than pedophiles. I was sexually assaulted by these people in the 7th grade. Masons came to my school and got me to inhale a chemical that has castrated me. It was done by the principals of my school. They claimed it was done because they didn’t like my “old school” political opinions.

    This organization is subversive. Their goal is to corrupt your kids in any way possible. They will often try to get them on drugs, or encourage white children to sleep with non whites. This is part of their social engineering/white flight bull$hit.

    Comment by Hacksaw — September 19, 2009 @ 12:23 am

  195. Yes, it is rampant in the San Fernando Valley. My whole neighborhood is involved in stalking and harassing me as well. It is a shame, but what really is something is, that women are highly involved in these stalking crimes against other individuals. You would think some women had more common sense, but they do not. I have come to realize that they are very vindictive, under achievers, who are frustrated at individuals who they feel intimidated by, as well as jealousy towards. I have been gang stalked since 2004 across several states and even into Baja California. I am not surprised they continue there goon campaign against me. What does surprise me is that law enforcement is supportive towards these types of criminals and does not attempt to stop or hinder there actions. I think it is a huge mistake on the part of the justice system and when they do attempt to step in, it will be too late. These groups have grown very large and are bi-cultural supported by many individuals of all ages. These individuals did not learn these tactics, nor gain access to such highly powerful equipment from Toyz R Us, these are torturous weapons meant to drive individuals to either suicide or the mental institution. I must add, that only in a country that supports these type of assaults against humanity can such crimes be ignored or covered up. I hope that the individuals gathering in the tea party demonstrations bring some support to victims of this type of harassment that at ttmes seems to be sanctioned by our Government, which should know better than to do this to it’s citizen’s.

    Comment by Valley Girl — September 19, 2009 @ 7:09 am

  196. for any person in on this “gangstalking” crime, just know that there is a god. not only that, but he knows not only what you’re doing, but who you are. he is a holy and righteous god who can only tolerate wickedness for so long. his patience does not last forever. in fact, he will soon put a sudden end to your sinister activities.

    many of us victims have been suffering for quite some time, while you, in utter cowardice, enjoy the benefits of your employment. in the very near future, however, the roles will be switched. you will be the ones suffering, while we have relief.

    some of you who are reading this through invasive and illegal monitoring systems might in fact, genuinely believe you are good people, and that you are doing nothing wrong; merely helping society, you say. but deep down you know you’re a wicked, disgusting creature. you know, deep down, that in your complete pride and arrogance you are making a dishonest living by oppressing your fellow brethren.

    i have three suggestions for you:

    1) repent of your wicked deeds and ask jesus christ, the king of this universe, to forgive you and save your soul from an eternity of punishment which will be justifiably and righteously executed upon you if you don’t do so. indeed you’re so deeply embedded in this crime and with its partakers that it would be difficult to abandon. but jesus says that “if your hand causes you to sin, then cut it off. For it would be better to enter Heaven maimed and crippled, than to be thrown into eternal Hell fully intact.”

    2) fully embrace the fact that you’re a wicked creature who is doing unimaginably cruel things to innocent people. do this without the least bit of prickling to your conscience. enjoy the full benefits this employment has to offer without questioning your morality. enjoy it good while it lasts, because you won’t be doing it for much longer.

    3) suppress the truth to your utmost ability. keep telling yourself you’re doing something noble and good for the community. keep telling yourself you’re a good person. keep relishing in your self-righteousness. keep telling yourself there’s no god. or if you believe a god, keep telling yourself he has no problems with your activities. keep telling yourself there will be no punishment for your sin, for ignorance truly is bliss. but again, this bliss will not last forever. so enjoy it while it lasts.

    i sincerely hope you endeavor to do number one, for i know what will befall you if you don’t.

    Comment by Time Is Short — September 21, 2009 @ 8:48 pm

  197. Let’s fight choas with our fist on every major holiday to have our voice heard…… Most TI are already dead waiting to be buried……..

    Remember to leave them alive to testify, those who stalk/harass you on a regular basis would know who the next chain of command…..

    Comment by Joe — October 15, 2009 @ 7:12 am

  198. The following is from: http://www.hightechharassment.com

    “Best advice for a targeted person:

    1) Keep quiet about the harassment and only speak to a lawyer(s) about it.

    2) Do not tell family and friends about the harassment.

    3) Never try to confront the people who you feel are harassing or attacking you

    4) Do not try to report the harassment to law enforcement

    5) Do not take any type of psychiatric evaluation”

    QWV

    Comment by Alive and Well — November 21, 2009 @ 2:03 am

  199. I just wanted to extend my gratitude to the person that started this thread. “Unbiased”. You wrote: “Any reasonable, intelligent person investigating organized stalking would conclude it has happened and is happening in society. The only reason for such a person to conclude otherwise would be some type of vested or other interest.” It is completely correct. However as they say “majority rules” and “he who has the gold makes the rules”. That’s the whole problem here. If the madman who has the gold and makes the rules says that purple is yellow then the greedy and/or cowardly majority will go along with this lie and it doesn’t matter how much irrefutable evidence there is that purple is NOT yellow. It’s “mob rules” The “gangsta nation” or “hater nation”. It is part and parcel of urban America. The “haters” as they are called do group up together and they DO actively try to sabotage people’s lives. Perhaps those who are not aware of this are closet racists. Sheltered in their deluded suburbs and completely unaware of what’s going down on the street. Completely out of touch. There are only a million rap songs that reference such things happening. This is only one aspect of what is known as “gang stalking”. It has also been called “hate stalking”. The stalkers DO refer to themselves as “haters”. They call it a “lifestyle”.

    Thank you for pointing out the fact that these creeps are lying and they know it. They really do give me the creeps too. A gang or a group of people can “jump” or beat somebody up but they can’t stalk and harass someone also?! Gimme a break! What a bunch of sleazy slime they are to deny this is going on. I suppose that pseudoscientists will deny anything they want to. A REAL scientist however who is honest and who demands EMPIRICAL PROOF could not analyze the mountain of evidence here and conclude that there is nothing going on. The New York Times printed an article about gang stalking and claimed that people all over the world describing the same events are simply having a mass hallucination. How scientific of them. How disgraceful and pathetic. These really are sad and disgusting times. There’s no way that a REAL scientist would buy that laughable theory. You can claim seeing anything from lizard people to bigfoot to UFO’s but say that a group of slimeballs is harassing you and suddenly you’re mentally ill.

    It can happen in a high school when a bunch of kids who do not like someone spread rumors such as saying that a “teachers pet” is a “slut” and many boys lie and say they slept with her for instance. The teasing and harassment she then experiences can become so bad that she drops out. Nobody denies that this does occur yet they deny that similar types of harassment happen in neighborhoods outside of a high school. Unbelievable! These slime bags are only being mean to themselves. History CAN’T deny this. I would never commit suicide. I’m in this for the long haul and can’t wait to see what happens next because history says that so much evil and corruption is going to backfire on the fools who support and condone such abnormal and ignorant crimes. “Pandemic”. Wait and watch. They will destroy themselves. They’re going to fall and I’m going to be here to see it when it happens.

    “Frodo: I can’t do this, Sam.
    Sam: I know. It’s all wrong. By rights we shouldn’t even be here. But we are. It’s like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn’t want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn’t. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something.
    Frodo: What are we holding onto, Sam?
    Sam: That there’s some good in this world, Mr. Frodo… and it’s worth fighting for.” – Lord Of The Rings

    Don’t give up!

    QWV

    Comment by it won't last — December 5, 2009 @ 9:15 pm

  200. Don’t give up.

    Comment by Jeremy — December 15, 2009 @ 2:08 am

  201. Never give up. Your hope is in Christ. Thinking of you all. God bless you.

    Comment by proudchristiangirl — January 4, 2010 @ 6:30 pm

  202. You may sign this petition here;http://www.gopetition.com/online/33163.html
    To: United States Congressional Members

    We, the following petition signers, and United States citizens, believe that we have become victims of covert harassment in a variety of forms, including: electronic and electromagnetic (EM) device assaults by the use of exotic EM weapons of the military(1) and intelligence agencies, organized stalking, computer tampering, mail tampering, vehicle tampering, workplace mobbing, and surreptitious home entry and break-ins.

    Some of this may be unauthorized human subject experimentation. Directed Energy Weapons exposure occur in a manner, which leads us to believe is unauthorized human testing by the military/intelligence agencies. This is specifically prohibited in U.S. law and by the Nuremberg Code, internationally.

    Subjection to this harassment has many unpleasant and negative results. Some victims have found themselves isolated from friends and family, experiencing the loss of familial comforts and affection. Many have experienced economic deprivation, and more severe deprivations.

    We believe that these invasive intrusions into our personal lives may well be caused or related to, acts of government intelligence agencies, corporations, contractors as 3rd parties acting under the authority of government intelligence agencies, and/or individuals, with malicious intent.

    We, the signers and organized groups, through various means have found each other and realize that we have many commonalities of experience, the most pertinent being, the awareness of these activities, perpetrated by covert harassment groups. They seem to be networked nationwide, and perhaps, worldwide. Many may represent a rogue group, in our own government.

    These groups seem to have targeted victims for physical, emotional, and psychological trauma. Many citizens have experienced very negative impacts as a result of this harassment.

    We have come together and formed working groups, to investigate these acts, seek legislation, to foster awareness, and an end to these described abuses, which occur using secret, highly-advanced surveillance and exotic military technologies. (1)

    We call upon Congress and local governments to listen to our complaints, support our very real concerns, and convene hearings, on this unlawful harassment. We are also asking our legislators to draft legislation, and if necessary, educate themselves and the public about the ever-increasing threats to our personal freedoms, by these covert groups, possibly acting under color of law, but actually in legal violation of it, using technologies which may be yet unknown to the public.

    The Fourth Amendment of our Constitution guarantees us freedom from unnecessary search and seizure. Harassment by these electromagnetic devices, and these individuals, is an unnecessary search and denies us this right.

    We are therefore petitioning the United States Congress to commence an immediate investigation, hearings, and legislation regarding the military and intelligence agencies’ use of electronic torture and organized stalking on law-abiding American citizens.

    Thank you for your attention and concern to this urgent and distressing matter.

    Sincerely,

    (Signature Pages Follow)

    ______________________________
    Footnote:
    1. EM Devices/ weaponry such as those found in these U.S. Patented Devices:

    4858612 – Hearing device – A condensed summary states that “This invention provides for sound perception by individuals who have impaired hearing resulting from ear damage, auditory nerve damage, and damage to the auditory cortex. This invention provides for simulation of microwave radiation which is normally produced by the auditory cortex. Stocklin, August 22, 1989

    4877027 – Hearing system – A condensed abstract states that “Sound is induced in the head of a person by radiating the head with microwaves…” Brunkan, October 31, 1989

    5159703 – A silent communication system [which] relates in general to electronic audio signal processing and, in particular, to subliminal presentation techniques. Lowery, October 27, 1992.

    6587729 – Apparatus for audibly communicating speech using the radio frequency hearing effect. O’Loughlin, et al. July 1, 2003

    Comment by Go Rilla — January 9, 2010 @ 7:02 pm

  203. The petition is from Derrick C. Robinson derrickcrobinson@gmail.com Freedom From Covert Harassment and Surveillance.

    Comment by Go Rilla — January 9, 2010 @ 7:11 pm

  204. In the first line of the petition above, the words “believe that we,” should be removed.

    Comment by JustCause — January 9, 2010 @ 10:00 pm

  205. Since moving to the old Heritage USA property in Fort Mill, SC; I have been gang stalked.
    I have experienced attempts to wreck my van, killing of my dog in a horrible way at Halloween in 2006, theft of my keys, remotes, jewelry, wiretapping, illegal surveillance, cyber stalking, trespassing, harassments of every imaginable type, constant illegal surveillance, mind games, and the list could go on and on. Occult activities are also used in my case.
    I empathize with all of the TI’s, and I know that this will be ending in the not-too-distant future, as this type of neighborhood terrorism cannot be ignored any longer. It is all coming out, and I pray that it will all be exposed 100%.
    Since I am a Christian; I have become stronger and wiser through all of this attack because I have turned to The Lord Jesus Christ as never before.
    He has protected me, and He is working it all for good, as when it is all exposed; life will be better in America for everyone, even those who are the perpetrators. Being a perp or gang stalker must be an unspeakably horrible existence.
    I hope and pray that all of you will turn to The Lord Jesus Christ if you haven’t already, as He can bring you through victoriously, and He can even work it all out for your good.
    I pray that the Lord will reveal Himself to those who are involved in these insidious crimes. May they turn to Him before it is too late.
    I hope and pray that all of the TI’s will be healed, delivered, and everything restored to them in Jesus’ Name.
    The Lord be with you all.
    ihcf.homestead.com/index.html

    Comment by Peggy Kannaday — February 8, 2010 @ 3:10 am

  206. The people that perpetrate these attacks on innocent victims laugh when victims pray. It is part of who they are and what they are told to do.

    They are told that they are good and their victims are bad.

    They are told that they are right and their victims are wrong.

    They are told that their victims are weak and they, collectively, are strong.

    They are told that they are the “righteous,” the true.

    They are controlled by corrupt authority and deluded into ordered compliance.

    They destroy without knowing.

    They never ask, what did you do.

    Nothing, we did nothing.

    Comment by justcause — February 15, 2010 @ 3:57 am

  207. its the church of scientology

    join me
    We can help…rid of these evil satanists
    rlforty1@excite.com

    Comment by jacobsladder — March 24, 2010 @ 9:56 pm

  208. I tell you ALL.. Its the church of scientology….All the tactics are identical…
    They place fear in you with fake shit, like a movie. What they do is to wear you down so they can come in take whatever you have by means of conservorship by a family member.YES, I said family member…This is how you are involved..
    Now you know the story…EMS vehicles…police cars, follow/harass you on the roads, at home, in the stores with there play ac
    ting bullshit !!
    what you all call sensitizing…They want you scared. thet is one of the main reasons they get behind you in stores ,to see if you are shaking !!!

    We are going to set ALL of you FREE soon….

    Its hard to believe that a family member may be involved…its true…they tell them you weaknesses, everything about you..

    email me, we ant this to stop and it will happen withyour cooporation.

    rlforty1@excite.com

    Comment by jacobsladder — March 24, 2010 @ 10:06 pm

  209. You email others htat we know know who is responsible for all this suffering for some…
    they will prbably block your emails to me.. you email others…tell them its the church of scientology.. They are the largeat crime organization in the world…Look whom they have actors,directors,producers….they act in front of you…doing there fake car accidents, whatever they do…They are recruiting you….

    pass the word

    Comment by jacobsladder — March 24, 2010 @ 10:13 pm

  210. I’ve read some of your stories…these are actor
    cops. they have cop cars..This is to make you not go to the real cops.If you do, what do you tell the real cops, cops are harassing me..Sounds crazy as hell huh !!!! they are not real cops at all.They told my friend, Who would beleive you ??…We are hear to shut hem down.
    they run mail/mortgage fraud scams,children compounds(you go figure). ,Have you any real estate ??…they want it….they will play there games until they get it.

    We are going to set ALL of you free…soon !!!!

    Comment by jacobsladder — March 24, 2010 @ 10:30 pm

  211. May 22, 2001
    99 percent are movie industry cults/occults, they usually
    have money to offer the madams to keep the raping, the breeding, the soilings going on for very long periods of time.

    Right now in Houston most dangerous are breeder cults occults…….it involves stealing sex via hard core street “prison yard” markings and is felonious manhandling of the “worse” kind.

    It is considered hard core street crime.

    They most recently within the last few years criminally
    Judith Peterson and Richard Seward and 5 others from a cocaine private hospital then called Spring Shadows Memorial
    59 counts of cruel and inhumane, admitted to having
    a semen bank ….cases involved intrauterine devices…
    heroin addicts and BREEDERS, running the bride of satan
    and literally getting into a victim’s apartment
    to rape on them with bloods relatives or former
    company’s employers and the other then co-staffers.

    Movie industry especially commercials – are very apt to
    join in on the cult sex flogging, they provide “them” with a “programmed sex” object and either rape on the spot in combination with cellular “black hole” wiccan, etc. on the female body parts.

    There were 27 cases in Houston and Austin TEXAS, they are
    no friends and easily reading the cases one can readily see
    the “charles mason”-like comrady, some call themselves NAZI meaning they are genocidic…..and will get the “flogging” performed or take on the streets.

    One of her most favorite is INTERNAL BREEDING, not a layman
    play…machines “probably rented from toys-r-us, by this time in 2010 (underground graduation) —like what you need to do in the offices in 2010…

    Compounded with the ritual, criminal attorney thrieve on
    it, as first knowing about it in the court system, they
    claim to compensate their salaries, and many quite heavily,
    and defy you to question their “breeding”…….

    I’m 62 years of age, one of them finds a pimping, they call them “Renaissance-like” names consummators, and they tag along to make sure they hook, and when threaten with stoppage, they usually throw in sodomy on the streets in the taking…a programmed sex vigil…some say one phone call deprogramms….however, they are heavily laden with
    movie industry, entertainers funding them, and BAR (legal) membership all trying to hook properly with under age of 40 onto the elder, it also is a homeless victimization racket, that has been on the streets with the garlic necklace for
    decades….Ghostbusters thrived on the nuclear eradication of
    a “substance” ….incubus eradication is what it really is called or some other concoction of the “internal breeder” business……

    These matter are life threatening, health department problems, as they literally pour voodoo, wiccan, or hoodoo
    into the body,,,,creating swelling and gross disfigurement,
    I call them skinheads, some call them antichristers, many names for the SAME hard core street criminal performances.

    From what I’ve seen first hand of law enforcement, they are a syndicated 4,000 “look-out” system as was recently spoken of in New York ……..so there is VERY little hope for victims…thus they struggle,

    The movie industry draws attention to the performers, then they try to please the performer, he doesn’t buy the object he merely makes sure THEY DON’t GET OFF OF it.

    5 22 2010 May 2010

    Comment by M. Jeffers — May 22, 2010 @ 8:23 pm

  212. Since 3,2003 my identical twin has been a victim. I have been one for the last two years. They are just acters and you are they play have fun with it or it will make you sick in the head. The first thing they do is repeat the words in your cars, phones, and home. They the will spit out unsolved crimes with your own conversations. This is thier way to find out if you have any dirty little secrets or silence you by puttimg you in jail for something you have not done. Research them yourself and make them look like the fools they are. They are acters but never react!

    Comment by Gary Dean Gilbertson — May 27, 2010 @ 12:43 am

  213. I have been a target since 1987, at least. I think they silently did mind control and later added OS and then V2k. I got religion due to targetting. Otherwise, I would have remained an agnostic or fell for some cult. I notice a lot of commenters have faith. God is all we have now. This system of harassment is leading up to AntiChrist and we have been chosen as satan’s first victims for some reason. I was never a saint and never saw myself becoming a believer.

    Comment by downcastmysoul — May 31, 2010 @ 4:27 pm

  214. @downcastmysoul

    I was just going over what you said and I do think this system will lead to the end system. I really thought that once the people were aware of what was happening, they would do something about it, but no. They see the truth, trip over the truth, dust themselves off and keep right on going, while so many suffer to bring them the truth. People really don’t change, and history is littered with those who would try to help humanity, usually in vain.

    I am sorry, usually I am more upbeat, but I am just giving some credible feedback on some of the things that I see. I hope all the true targets. I am still trying to find out more about what can be done. Once I read more about countries and their use of the psychiatric reprisals, I am really surpised that this stuff happens, but it does. Just like other time periods.

    Comment by gangstalking — June 1, 2010 @ 3:09 am

  215. Most people would not mind being slaves as long as they get treated well. Most corporations are structured like monarchies. Families also used to be a monarchy with the oldest man and woman at the head. People live in denial: they like to be comfortable and cozy and not risk anything. Only hungry desperate people do desperate things. I guess they think having targets slowly die in front of them is just “the way it is” and to “get used to it”. No one has every really committed to help me in any way against them, have they helped you? Courage is a thing of the past. No one wants a scratch helping someone no one else likes and also will have a negative effect on their own life rather than the self congratulatory buzz they get off of “helping the homeless” etc. No one is willing to do something just because they believe in God and know it’s right. The hypocrites sit all comfy in their pews and say long eloquent prayers, grab some lunch, then go perp some ti’s.

    Comment by downcastmysoul — June 1, 2010 @ 3:35 am

  216. I have many many hrs. trying to figure who is behind this… I told myself “this is for a warped way of taking,robbing,scamming victims while they are preoccupied fighting off these maggots.$$$$$$$ money is the root of all evil. this is a god honest answer.
    How is warped enough to pull this off ???It takes heavy logistics,manpower along with tons of cult members with tons of actors,producers,directors,special effect satanists and other nobodies.Who, you ask, Church of Scientology… I am working on shutting them down from the heart.Take there money away, they collapse. All of you true victims, It is these low lifes…They are the only criminal org. big enough to pull this off.They think they are illusionists. every detail of there harasssent takes about a 2 yr. old’s mentality. They have you all figured out ???…I’m here to EXPOSE these low lifes. send email for more info and help. rlforty1@excite.com

    Comment by Ron Jacobs — June 1, 2010 @ 11:37 am

  217. Downcastsoul:

    I’m here for all victims.. I’m a victim and will not set idle and let this happen. Expose these low lifes.
    Church of scientology… Read up on them….They treat there members worse !!!Thats why they do not come forward !!!!They live in fear.Tom Cruise,Travolta, ring a bell !!!
    Only un humans that believe in aliens could and would try to pull this crap off.google them….Even most members dont know what they do,all ex members know, but never could connect the two—gangstalking/scientology.
    They are being exposed everyday and the F.B.I. shuts groups down. They are heavy into frauds,scams,racketeering,laundering scamed victim and member money,child porn, have a large compound in el dorado, tx where approx. 800 children are used to produce porn movies… These are the people harassing you. They have brought there theater tactics to the streets.Fake cops,lawyers,doctors, everything about them is fake…they will tell you they are mormons,baptist, f.b.i., dont matter. they have gotten bold over the yrs. they have taken over small towns with fake “coppers”
    sirens blarring,flashers flahing, like sick little children they are.Lets “play’ with there minds”. lets scam them in htis matter, NOBODY will believe them…

    Comment by Ron Jacobs — June 1, 2010 @ 11:52 am

  218. FROM all the shit you have heard from these “cult gangstalking sites, throw out the window, NOT TRUE..
    YOU , victim, are sane, they are the ones that will be institutionalized.Like a small child, when you dont react, they drop to the floor and kick and cry.BUT, even a human child at a very young age knows wrong from right.When the time comes, and very soon, we leave them no mercy. Federal law enforcement works night and day…they
    get closer. They are going after the heart as we are.Warning, you low-lifes, we are coming in the night
    The ones that sneak and crawl away, our org. will see justice and hunt you down.We know you, We have photos,videos,plate numbers, witnessess.. We are the preditor !!!

    Comment by Ron Jacobs — June 1, 2010 @ 12:06 pm

  219. More scoop !!!\
    All the sounds you are hearing, and never can figure out where its coming from…Just in the movies, sound effects.Tom Cruise….Church of scientology…..$ billions they have crooked from members and victims ….
    Now, is it making sense ???…What other type of human would really do this harassment ????…scientologists cultists….hey, they believe in alien spirits have entered your body !!!???….Now, is it making sense ???…

    Comment by Ron Jacobs — June 1, 2010 @ 2:57 pm

  220. Michael Jackson was killed by gangstalkers. Guess what cult he belonged to ???.Church of scientology….Lisa Marie was forced
    by the cult to marry Michael.why…..???????..$$$$$$$$.They own her and Prisella and dozens of stars.They will get there hands on most of Michaels $$$$….as they did Elvis.They own “Elvis”land too ! and now, Jackson never land !!!
    Issac Hayes,Will Smith… They will get it all from them as well when time is appropiate

    Comment by Ron J — June 14, 2010 @ 2:01 am

  221. Lafayette Ron Hubbard was a paranoid psychopath who dabbled in the practice of black magic. He suffered from psychotic spells and suicidal depressions. His followers have left an unending trail of psychoses, suicides, murders and bizarre deaths.

    I am very curious about whether Hubbard’s flirtation with black magical practices were exclusively amateurish and elementary, or if he was a somewhat more advanced master of left-handed occultism. .

    Comment by Ron J — June 14, 2010 @ 2:10 am

  222. I dont want to hear community policing… BULL SHIT…
    this is way beyond what they can do…This is strickly a “mind game”..Well, hell the whole damn world is bi-polar anyway, what do they think they can get from us ??
    Not my mind, I’ve decide dto keep what i got …

    We need a group to protect the less fortunate, something like the ADL…
    anybody…rlforty1@excite.com

    Comment by BreakerofEvil — July 26, 2010 @ 1:07 am

  223. This *is* most likely ‘all the cops,’ and by now everyone should see this.

    Comment by yeah right — August 3, 2010 @ 5:32 am

  224. WANTED: Department Of Homeland Security Personnel To Talk about GANG STALKING.

    http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display/12435/index.php

    Comment by Wanted — August 4, 2010 @ 1:42 am

  225. http://www.whale.to/b/griggs.html

    Comment by KayGriggssays — August 4, 2010 @ 2:24 am

  226. The mode of flaming in question is called: sock-puppetry. And clearly, the mod was summarily enlisted as an unwitting proxy in abuse of power.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 9, 2010 @ 7:30 am

  227. “Bulling”?

    From your website. Surely you jest.

    This shit goes far beyond your imagination, experience or *your* disinformation.

    And you should specifically apply your comments to a certain post.

    You are *the* puppet.

    Comment by obvious — August 13, 2010 @ 5:25 am

  228. QuotieQuote Aaron Agassi August 9, 2010 @ 7:30 am “The mode of flaming in question is called: sock-puppetry. And clearly, the mod was summarily enlisted as an unwitting proxy in abuse of power.”

    This is an example of ‘how full of it you can be, or how bad you are at psychological operations.

    The victims know, hopefully everyone else will too.

    Click on his website at your own risk.

    Comment by RealCrap — August 13, 2010 @ 5:43 am

  229. Cuts to the bone, doesn’t it “Aaron Agassi?” Or *whoever* you really are.

    Comment by Agassi Questioned? — August 13, 2010 @ 5:56 am

  230. Ad hominem, much, y’all? Before getting all riled up, what do you think that I said, and why do you take such exception thereto? Perhaps for context, I should have clarified that I was actually responding to the initial post of this thread.

    And yes, obvious, surely organized stalking might be regarded as a tactic of abuse on the part of bullies. -bullying, not “bulling.”

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 13, 2010 @ 6:23 am

  231. No less so than mobbing, shunning, defamation, or any other harassment and dirty tricks. Why do I need to explain this?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 13, 2010 @ 7:29 am

  232. Aaron Agassi – “Mobbing, shunning, defamation, or any other harassment and dirty tricks,” does not begin to describe what *is* being done in the name of so-called ‘National Security.’

    We are talking, chemical, electronic and biological attacks, coupled with organized stalking.

    In the United States of America, these attacks are felony assaults, plain and simple.

    Comment by LetsGetReal — August 14, 2010 @ 7:37 am

  233. Again, I was simply answering the actual question at the head of this thread. True, I also linked to my anti-bullying site. Bullying is extremely dangerous. But perhaps you can’t take it seriously without high tech and deep shadow government. And yet, it is the pettiest mean spirit of grassroots conspiracy, indeed including not only those thugly cop-wanna bes, but any other comically over parented control freaks, sociopathic merry pranksters and vicious back fence gossips, all “thick as thieves,” that exists and perpetuates, long before if ever, unsuspectingly exploited by any bigger corporate or intelligence community fish in order to target anyone aggravating and important enough to them for the making of such enmity whereof. Indeed, as persecution of minorities is suppressed, bullying of any vulnerable targets of opportunity, the new hate crime, escalates to take its place. Well, it’s important to me. “A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular.” – Adlai Ewing Stevenson

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 14, 2010 @ 8:13 am

  234. Listen dude, when or if the chemical attacks start, you will ‘in your mind’ be lost as a consequence of these attacks.

    Nerve agents anyone?

    Comment by LetsGetReal — August 21, 2010 @ 2:32 am

  235. Sequitur?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 21, 2010 @ 7:14 am

  236. This doesn’t even rise to the level of gainsaying!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 21, 2010 @ 7:15 am

  237. Unbiased: During the past year and a half of reading research I have witnessed several similar obvious attacks on observably reasonable posters of this subject. [...] The severe attack against the poster trying to discuss the topic started instantly, was way out of proportion and appeared to be coordinated, or from a single poster with several aliases. These aliases were newly registered with zero posts at the start.

    AaronAgassi: The mode of flaming in question is called: sock-puppetry.

    Unbiased: When it was posted it started what can only be described as an Internet forum war and ended up being completely removed instead of just locked as would be customary or reasonable.

    AaronAgassi: clearly, the mod was summarily enlisted as an unwitting proxy in abuse of power.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 21, 2010 @ 11:53 am

  238. Arron,read this, then I might add something else. This is not completely accurate, but has important information.

    http://harassmentterror.wordpress.com/2006/11/25/gang-styalking-psychological-harassment-technology-fumigation/#comments

    Comment by LetsGetReal — August 24, 2010 @ 3:25 am

  239. Again: Sequitur?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 24, 2010 @ 7:04 am

  240. Try a sentence Aaron, preferably one that has a discernible message that does not repeat.

    Comment by LetsGetReal — August 26, 2010 @ 2:58 am

  241. A non sequitur is a comment that, because of its apparent lack of meaning relative to what it follows, seems absurd to the point of just being confusing. The non sequitur may be perfectly well linguistically meaningful and even important in its own right, yet remains non sequitur. In other words: I simply do not see how your remarks come in answer to mine. I perceive a complete failure of engagement.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 26, 2010 @ 4:57 am

  242. I asked you not to repeat “Aaron.”

    I can see you did not understand.

    So it goes.

    Comment by LetsGetReal — September 1, 2010 @ 6:22 am

  243. I have been a victim for many years as well. I am unsure how long. I have a website: http://www.organizedmobbing.com.

    I try to suggest and offer not just complaints to the relative few of us who experiences, very few, but I try to offer, honest, solutions. Honest. I think before I post attempting to eliminate mistakes of judgment. Once you except that this is happening, it is a matter of what now. That is if the person is a ‘true’ TI and not a perp posting.

    I have watched a few videos labeled as ‘gang stalking’, suggestion, if it doesn’t show something truly questionable and it is showing nothing more than people in their cars, than don’t post it! It looks ridiculous and is doing more harm to what could turn into a movement that could happen for people later. Post things that truly add to the suspicion of the ‘targeting’. It is possible, but, video is hard. Be patient and vigilante. Carry camera with you everywhere and get one that works good at night. You also must put into context. You have to add comments not just video. As far as movement, one day it will happen, but many will die before it does.

    Comment by TI — September 4, 2010 @ 2:51 am

  244. LetsGetReal, if my explanation which was seemingly requested, strikes you as merely repetitious, then perhaps you might pose a clearer question of me.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 4, 2010 @ 3:18 am

  245. Answering “Sequitur” a couple of times is repeating yourself.

    Then you define it. This is your ignorant assumption of my ignorance, rather asinine, don’t you think?

    You’ve read, or should have read the whole thread and should have come to an understanding of what this subject is about.

    Saying you “don’t understand” at this juncthure, is hard to believe.

    I’m asking that you clarify the points of your misunderstanding.

    Comment by LetsGetReal — September 4, 2010 @ 7:02 am

  246. You seem to assume that I do not understand what this thread is about. But do you know what the initial post at the head of this thread is about? Indeed, I have repeated my question (sequitur?) because the conditions prompting my question persist, unaddressed, with my question remaining unanswered.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 4, 2010 @ 7:41 am

  247. T1, sorry for delay in response. As you can see I was caught up in something else less important.

    I just took a glance at your site. Along with mobbing and gang stalking, you might consider also include mention of such related phenomena and bullying tactics as shunning and covert relational hostility in general including malicious gossip and ostracism, not to mention sensitization via gas lighting among other fair game tactics.

    Personally, I tend to view all of the above as a malignant often vigilante grass roots effort, and instigation by whatever greater powers as the more rarer special case.

    So, why do you suppose it is that a movement fails to coalesce? I can think of two reasons: First of all, we vulnerable targets tend to be isolated and disorganized to begin with, and the attacks are contrived to undermine social connectivity even further. But we must take responsibility and sustain concerted effort to close ranks, formulate action agenda and stand up for ourselves.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 6, 2010 @ 3:20 am

  248. there is noting we can do. let’s get real people. so many of you have faith and hope in god and i think that is great but in reality these entities are beyond anything we can even fathom. they are making people kill themselves! think about that for a moment. find any religious program on tv and all they want is your money. they brain wash you. every religion is against the other. god is universal. god is something we will never understand. god is prime creator. the universe has always been here. there was no known start or end to it. wolves travel in packs and kill in packs. these gang stalkers are just like a pack of blood thirsty wolves, in that they attack the lone victim.

    i really feel the only way to stand up to this is by mocking it. smile at the people you think are out to get you. wave at them. never show distress. be a knight of a human. you have the mind to overcome this and make it easier on you. destroy the racing thoughts. eat them until there is nothing but a calm ocean of nothing. go to sleep with headphones on and listen to your ipod. try rebellious music for a change. angry music. become something you never would of imagined. or you will die inside for eternity. open your third eye. it’s really hard to explain. one way to overcome this is to find god but don’t find jesus. find the creater of everything.

    Comment by diffuse veritgo taylor — September 7, 2010 @ 11:10 am

  249. I agree with you “diffuse veritgo taylor”.
    HOWEVER, you can can not go to a corner and prey..forever..
    EXPOSE>>>>>>place articles on free site asuch as craigslist.. FREEMASONS……they are cops,fireman,city,county,state workers… medical workers.. They are in alll trades,EXPOSE THEM>>>
    Look at Shreveport, La. craigslist under GENERAL community.EXPOSE…..EXPOSE….

    Comment by drknowitall — September 7, 2010 @ 1:13 pm

  250. veritgo taylor: It has never even so much as occurred to me at all ever to recommended televangelists as our succor. Nevertheless, come to think of it, even as an atheist, I am well aware of and do duly acknowledge the many instances of significant community action and even resistance, under the auspice of whatever local place of worship and gathering.

    Be any of that as it may: Before simply giving up on organizing and taking action, on whatever problem or issue in mind, I would first prefer to undertake situation analysis, problem definition, and the examination of proposed possible solutions.

    As you may have become aware, I myself have endeavored to propose for public discussion, any sort of protocol for actual counter-conspiracy against bullying, both simple overt harassment and especially the more devious and overwhelming covert relational hostility and petty abuse of power, at http://www.FoolQuest.com/cliquebusters.htm – much as my work has been greeted with such incomprehensible suspicion and derision on this very forum. I certainly believe that at very least, the conniving and abusive suppression of free expression by obnoxious flamers, precisely as exposited in the very first post to this very thread, often can be effectively countered when detected and that better organization can help.

    Drknowitall: All therefore, I must reject your seeming explicit recommendation that nothing whatsoever at all more be undertaken or even considered beyond individual consciousness raising effort online. Moreover, I deem the aforesaid ineffectual and unpersuasive, indeed even crankishly counterproductive, unless backed up by manifestly reasonable, clear and persuasive good scientific method and journalistic standards of evidence. Are good scientific method and journalistic standards of evidence are important to you as well? Do let me know.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 7, 2010 @ 2:34 pm

  251. PS. I am all for really good coherent video documentation of gang stalking, gas lighting, or any other such sly reprehensible “fair game” tactics. And certainly collaboration together can expose far more than disparate struggle in isolation alone. -just for starters…

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 7, 2010 @ 2:43 pm

  252. To Aaron :
    You speak GOBLY GOOP !!!
    You speak words that are meaningless to real victims..All scripted !!I guess what im trying to say, you are full of bullshit !!! flamed with perp talk !!! What the hell are you, not who ????
    Chow !!!
    PS. I could give a rats ass what you are “all ready for” !!!

    FREEMASON HURTS, ???????.. Go back to your hole !!!!

    just for starters

    Comment by drknowitall — September 7, 2010 @ 3:10 pm

  253. I do know it all, you are a big time LOSER Come on here talking “puzzling” words of pure stinch..

    You want proof. who the hell are you, a judge ?? you dont sit on a pedestal !!down here you are a fucking pagan..

    YOU GO FIND YOUR OWN FUCKING PROOF. You have the fancy words,
    You should know.. Wheres your Ph D ??AND YOU DONT KNOW !!!
    How come i know, i have no college education ???
    Smart ass, are you ?? WHY DONT YOU ALREADY KNOW ?You are crazy as well. YOU MAKE NO SENSE trying to be “fancy”

    Comment by drknowitall — September 7, 2010 @ 3:27 pm

  254. drknowitall, now you are just being abusive and flaming, and I really don’t deserve it and won’t put up with it. If you really do not understand what I am trying to get across, then would you be interested in Dialectic collaborative miscommunication repair? (Basically, just asking one another questions back and forth in order to clear things up, until we understand one another accurately.) At any rate, consider that in your outreach, you are seeking to gain also the attention, trust and sympathy of influential and educated people in society. So make the effort. We are all born with much the same wetware, after all. I am here to help.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 7, 2010 @ 3:53 pm

  255. I rest my case Aaron !!! IWAS NOT REPLYING TO YOU CLOWN !! It was Taylor…..hello !!!! I can comment !!!

    Real victims dont understand a damn thing nor do educated ones. You words are worthless.You dont relate, get it !!!
    Asking ??? you call that questions ??? Where the hell were you born ??
    I was NOT speaking to you. I was reponding to Taylor. NOT YOU !!!
    Your words are garbage here. Who gives a fuck how smart you are, which i truly doult, you are as fake as they come.,
    not a true victim…I sure dont mind good debate, you are rediculous.. Keep your nose to you self and stop.

    I HAVE NO INTEREST IN WHAT YOU BRING HERE. ITS all GARBAGE .

    Try to help????? help who ??? your fucking ego !!!

    Comment by drknowitall — September 7, 2010 @ 4:19 pm

  256. AND, ONE OTHER THING, Aaron..
    I stated in my reply TO TAYLOR,NOT YOU, where to look for proof. ..NO, you wanted to run your chops.. speak cheap bull shit….deny, snap…right off the bat, WITHOUT SEEING PROOF .. that tells me you are a Perp…I m not the one to “comb” your ego… !!!!Go peddle your garbage to a shill !!

    Comment by drknowitall — September 7, 2010 @ 4:28 pm

  257. It’s not my fault you are a moron and a bigot, drknowitall. It’s just so much easier for the likes of you to blame the Freemasons, the Jews or the Homosexual agenda, whatever whomever etc., and to proclaim that anyone who even so much as asks for evidence is the enemy and then to just keep on voting Republican. Well, good luck with all of that! I wash my hands of you, you stupid evil prick.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 7, 2010 @ 5:34 pm

  258. freemasons have nothing to do with this. people have something to do with this. think about that in the abstract.

    it wasn’t until i took the cia invented drug called dextromethorphan (DXM) (found in cough medicine such as robotussin,corricidin ect or in pure form) that i was able to open my third eye to fully understand what was happening to me. i was in the ER room saying i wanted to kill my self and it all came to me. the secret information came right into my brain in a very powerful way. people think dxm is just something that high school kids do to get high, but there is so much more to dxm then that. i suggest you study up on dxm and how powerful it is in high doses. and keep in mind the CIA invented this drug and put it in over the counter cough syrup for only god knows why. it is unproven to cure a cough or a cold. anyways while on dxm in the ER room waiting to be screened by a mental health worker, i came to understand that my x girlfriends father was in on the gang stalking or the architect of it. i treated my x very badly and it’s a long story but needless to say i fucked with the wrong girl. it’s almost impossible to explain but this is just one example of how something like this starts.

    to understand gang stalking one could easily look at http://www.4chan.org /b/ random anonymous image board. they are the group of anonymous internet users who attacked scientology on a massive scale. these evil internet users troll people and try and ruin them. if a naive girl posts nude pictures of herself on the internet and this gets to /b/ on 4chan then an army of 4chan users will gang together and destroy the girls life by printing the pictures and posting them around her school, send them to her schools principal, ect ect ect. this is just an example.

    i have read the posts on here and it seems that most people think it’s the CIA, freemasons and groups like that but keep in mind i think the majority of ti’s are just victims of sadistic people looking to have fun. maybe making this post is stupid on my part. i have a hard time explaining things. anyone can google gang stalking and find this site. them and us. i have a really good heart and i read some of these victims testimonies and i care about them. i wish i could end their turmoil. but then i look in the mirror and all the evil i have done. none of us are angels. we are all fallen. the industrial age is just as evil as the christian crusades, the dark ages. one could think that people are a cancer on the earth or a gift. but what is the point of human being on this planet? any human can have ideas about why we are here and why the human condition or spirit can be so sadistic. it’s hard to grasp any thought. face it. we love and we hate. this is how our brain is built. you might be a good person but if someone murdered your mother you would want to murder them. well the majority of you. if you look at mind control and that kind of stuff, what was the point of it? to make government controlled killers? lol. if the government or cia want someone killed they have people for that who do not need to be mind controlled. the mind control experiments ect is nothing more then experiments. it’s wonder. it’s interesting to them. it’s fun. sure they have objectives. think about that girl who was injured when someone threw acid on her face recently in washington state. it was a random attack. maybe that was a form of mind control. maybe the perp who carried out the attack was mind controlled. maybe not. but that is the idea. if you think its impossible that they are not out there doing shit like that you need to wake up.
    tl;dr
    open your third eye (pineal gland)

    Comment by diffuse veritgo taylor — September 7, 2010 @ 7:05 pm

  259. I will never tale claims of the supernatural seriously, until if ever, there is good science to back it up. And I also won’t take such conspiracy theories seriously, unless I see good journalism to back it up.

    For that matter, I’d never defend the Church of Scientology. Although, indeed, in litigating to defend their intellectual property from exposure by debunkers, the Scientologists managed to piss off Internet activists, anonymous evil hackers and pranksters amongst them, now ironically occupying the moral high ground as, due to their anonymity and covert offensive abilities, the only folks capable of dealing with the pervasive and lethal Scientologists.

    Scientology “fair game” tactics aside, I see that we tend to agree that bullying abuse tends to be grass roots sadistic sport, not any sort of deep shadow government opps. But at a glance, I cannot find these nasty internet bullies and cyberstalkers whereof you speak, veritgo taylor, on http://www.4chan.org Perhaps you can supply any more specific links. And I still think that it is possible to organize for mutual support among targets of bullying and to stand up against them. They are cowards who abuse isolated individuals. Breaking the isolation is key to demoralizing our common enemy.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 7, 2010 @ 7:44 pm

  260. i think the only way to defeat this. is to ignore it. if you pour urine on a flower it keeps on living.

    Comment by diffuse veritgo taylor — September 7, 2010 @ 8:42 pm

  261. A pernicious victim-blaming myth. Bullies validate one another, and will not simply go away if others ignore them. We can do better.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 8, 2010 @ 1:18 am

  262. You 2 suppose to be smart,correct ??? You mean you dont know that the masonic ring is spread thru-out all law enforcement, on all levels…CIA.FBI.Homeland,NSA,local,county and state…?????

    give me drum roll !!!???

    Comment by drknowitall — September 8, 2010 @ 5:27 pm

  263. What, you don’t know about cliques of bullies and grassroots vigilantism? Even supposing just for argument’s sake, that you might be correct about a pervasive Freemason conspiracy, drknowitall, should we therefore ignore every other problem whatsoever? And to reiterate: Put up or shut up! Where’s your evidence? We are yet to be persuaded. Oh I forget, that makes us your enemy! I’m onto you, drknowitall: All that you are trying to do is to drown out all other discourse except for your own brain-dead ravings.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 8, 2010 @ 6:06 pm

  264. 1. The Freemasons created the United States and physically designed Washington, D.C. to model a
    Masonic temple
    2. Most of the founding fathers were Freemasons
    3. Most US presidents were Freemasons
    4. Essentially 100% of the CIA are Freemasons
    5. Most members of associated intelligence agencies are Freemasons
    6. Most law enforcement personnel at the state and local level are Freemasons
    7. Most lawyers and judges – especially at the federal level – are Freemasons
    8. Most Senators and Congressmen are Freemasons
    9. A high percentage of corporate executives are Freemasons
    10. Freemason dominated military contractors would get preference
    11 Many Law Enforcement, city,county,state,federal, maany fish and wildlife..
    12Many Fireman
    12Many in the medical field

    Comment by drknowitall — September 8, 2010 @ 8:43 pm

  265. Prove it, what the hell ??? its documented, you fool !!!

    Comment by drknowitall — September 8, 2010 @ 8:47 pm

  266. **********’DRUM ROLL*********

    Comment by drknowitall — September 8, 2010 @ 8:50 pm

  267. Thers all kinds of Masonic goodies online, go to some of the stores selling masonic, emblems,police emblems,fire emblims,medical emblems, uniforms police uniforms,fire unifoems, I wonder WHY ????…roll!!!!!

    Comment by drknowitall — September 8, 2010 @ 9:00 pm

  268. Masonic rings on judges fingers, police fingers,fire fingers,
    fbi fingers,cia fingers,federal wildlife fingers,stickers,L.plates,presidents fingers….YOUR FINGER
    and my middle to YOU finger!!lol!!!!2 drum rolls!!!!!!!

    They are all evil…..ALL non-fiction…..All Real !!!!
    All burn in hell…..

    Comment by drknowitall — September 8, 2010 @ 9:12 pm

  269. Let me pull your comments apart !!!!

    these are your words Araron

    we therefore ignore every other problem whatsoever?What other problem?? And to reiterate: Put up or shut up! Where’s your evidence?thats dumb !! We are yet to be persuaded.then you are on LSD Oh I forget, that makes us your enemy!you guilty ?? I’m onto you,OMG drknowitall: All that you are trying to do is to drown out all other discourse except for your own brain-dead ravings…….roll, please !!!!

    Comment by drknowitall — September 8, 2010 @ 9:54 pm

  270. How do WE know Aaron tht you are not a fried brain(which,they all are)CIA agent ?. They all are drug addicts….You kinda sould like you are tripping
    in these posts ?????..Shut up or get thrown from a bridge ,huh !!!…LOL !!!!!!LOL!!!!!!

    Comment by drknowitall — September 8, 2010 @ 11:32 pm

  271. ALL the mind Control is Related To Gangstalking.
    I have not got there yet !!!….Maybe the CIA Aaron knows,
    lets ask him, Hey CIA Aaron, How is this related to stalking ????..Please, put your acid down !!!! LOL !!

    Comment by drknowitall — September 9, 2010 @ 12:04 am

  272. drknowitall, you need evidence that there are any other problem whatsoever other than Freemason conspiracy? Really?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 9, 2010 @ 12:36 am

  273. Jonestown was a CIA group control experiment (medical/psychiatric).
    CIA/Illuminati programming centres have 600 – 700 drugs to employ; many new synthetics are known only to the Illuminati/Intelligence community.
    ()
    Haitan Satanic Vodoun cult has been manipulated by CIA/Illuminati.
    Dr. Beecher of Harvard U. granted funds to research drugs for psychological control.
    CIA report has Bethesada Naval Hospital in Maryland synthesizing drugs for psychological control.
    Military drug research/programming @
    -Army Chemical School in Ft. McClellan, AL
    -Edgewood Chemical Center

    GI’s addicted to painkillers blackmailed into complying with demands.
    Some specific uses for natural/synthetic drugs for programming:
    -putting people into trance
    -force ‘alters’ deeper into trance to escape drug effects
    -enhancing trauma
    -producing OOBE’s
    -creating pain
    -create blood vessels that hurt; excruciating body-coursing pulsating pain
    -create illusions (no face, hands, feet, head, etc.)
    -alters to remain motionless (obediance/dissociation)
    -designer drugs used in conjunction with machinal harmonics for thought implantation
    -hormones like GnRH to speed sexual growth/manipulate other physiological developments
    -enhance/reduce memory
    -build image of programmer’s ‘omnipotency’

    One particular drug enhances trauma by 100X
    Round Table Groups initially called ‘Association of Helpers’ by
    Cecil Rhodes
    - High ranking Mason/Illuminatus Cecil created ‘Rhodes Scholarship’ to
    bring several select men from English speaking world and Germany to
    to learn how to form ‘One World Government’
    - Cliveden Estate of the Cliveden Astors (Illuminati) has played an
    important role in preparation of Rhodes Scholars
    - 2 examples of men selected for Rhodes Scholarship: Bill Clinton and
    Fred Franz–>late Pres. of Watchtower Society
    - Clinton went through program, Franz declined to be Pres. of
    Watchtower Society from 1977 – 1994. Watchtower Society is front
    for branch of Illuminati practicing Enochian magic.

    Alters used in pron hypnotized not to see cameras/faces.
    Children often drugged/hypnotized in front of distortion mirrors.
    Magician John Mulhollan employed by CIA.
    Most Disney films used for programming; some specifically designed for mind-control.
    1. the cia mind-control program…these guy’s were doing tons of lsd in a paranoid setting…national security took a back seat to just power for powers sake in a realm above/beyond the law, the constitution, anything. They were a law unto themselves and drunk on power and lsd…strange combination…interested in alllll sorts of stuff, shamanism, ancient south American civilizations where psychedelics were used to control the population, the occult, anything they could get their hands on…. And to help them facilitate this..they got in touch with…

    Billy Graham – southern Baptist Member
    - southern baptists controlled by Freemasons
    - Pres. of So. Bapt. Convention–>Brook Hays
    - high ranking Freemason
    No So. Bapt. Convention pres.’s have opposed Freemasonry
    Illuminati slaves/programmers have infiltrated Mennonite churches.
    -some of the Illuminati’s/intelligence’s best programmed Delta assassins operate under the guise of pacifist Amish. Some Illuminati children switched at birth so programmers have better bloodlines to work with. Some Amish women in cult families allow impregnation from Illuminati bloddlines.

    -Nazi bloodlines hidden after WWII amongst Amish/Mennonite.
    -Mennonites and some progressive Amish adopt MANY children.
    -Amish in Missouri (Jamestown), kansa (south of Hutchison), Oklahoma (Guthrie, OK), Kentucky, Ohio (Holmes, Co.,Ohio), and Pennsylvania (Lancaster, PA) have been involved in selling children to Illuminati.
    -children born outside the system excellent for snuff porn.
    -it is VERY SECRET an active occult group within the AMISH is practicing Witchcraft.
    -Generational Satanists have been placed with the Amish to assist the Catholic Church in the Amish’s destruction.
    -Hitler’s descendants in Oregon, Washington, and Pennsylvaniz; one descendant in Portland, Oregon, works for the federal government.
    Illuminati families like Dukes/Reynolds control tobacco production and cigarette manufacturing. In order to keep their lifestyle in Pennsylvaniz, Amish grow tobacco for the Illuminati families.FREEMASONS

    HITLER/BERKOWITZ/MANSON…ALL MASONS>> fact…
    MKULTRA had MANY, MANY subprojects such as CHATTER, OFTEN, DARBY HAT, 3RD CHANCE, CHICK-WHIT (sp?), MKDELTA, QK HILLTOP, ETC.
    Some ULTRA survivors claim 149 sub-projects, others claiming over 250!
    Eli Lilly main supllier of LSD to CIA ULTRA projects.FREEMASON

    Before the Jonestown massacre, the site was a Project SHOLOM (sp?), CIA Guerilla Training (mind-control) site.
    The most important thing to remember about all of these SERVANTS of LIES, is that they are WEAK to the CRAVINGS of their FLESH. They live in fear and darkness, a life obsessed with death. But the most crucial thing that goes on in this whole ideological paradigm is the fact that they are AFRAID of everything, death, truth, love, the whole 9 Yards. What they are most afraid of is that their DESIRES may not be fulfilled and their HUNGER for these most foul things might EAT THEMSELVES instead of feeding on others. The whole demonic trip be it ideological or spiritual, requires cumulative upkeep, a constant and exponential need for FEEDING. Thats why the trade in such things is lucrative, we are talking about staving off generations of withdrawl from such endeavours, something they think they NEED at all costs. To those who have been harmed by these Blue blooded fiends: There is absolution in the name of god. They cannot bear to hear any of his 10,000 names. Hope this helps clear things up for anyone who might be scared of the evil these people create. To fear them is to misunderstand the nature of their suffering and our own. The path of fear is endless and steep. They cannot control a mind that belongs to GOD. Their time is limited and THEY KNOW IT! Their books say it as clear as ours, (SEE an encyclopedia of Masonic, hermetic, Kabbalistic, and rosicrutian traditions) they are RUNNING in fear from our GOD, they will tell you that. Know him, and he will know you. They cannot rule those who will not be afraid. We cannot defeat them in their realms, but they cannot defeat us in ours. Demons have no power here, not since the rebellion.
    I have to GO. Want be back for awhile…Aaron, get help !!!! NO PROOF !!!!Not only the acid Aaron, leave 100 proof alone as well !

    Comment by drknowitall — September 9, 2010 @ 12:45 am

  274. (To Agassi)
    Wow. Never thought anyone read these things but me. I mentioned a lot of what I have read on other websites. I have never experienced gaslighting or some other things. I believe in gaslighting,there is plenty written and spoken of regarding that but, electronic harassment I have trouble with. I have heard some crazy tales from people that defy the laws of physics.

    Why there isn’t a gathering together of like minds/experiences? I am sure there are as many answers as there are people. One, you have to catch on to it. I caught on to it because it became blatant later in life. It becomes blatant because of intrepidity: it is the perfect crime and known to be such. They know they won’t get caught: no one does this thinking there will be consequences. It is difficult to prove most of what happens but not impossible. It maybe come blatant later because you have reached an age of lack of ability to make corrections, harder to change directions. That is why it is so important to share information. Also people are essentially optimists. There can be many interpretations of behavior/occurrences, unless it is made clear. Two, there are no ‘real’ organizations. People are bought and sold, no endurance or personal conviction these days. Most of the medical profession, legal profession chooses to lie to uphold the all important system and because of the shame involved with those who don’t know…those few good left. We all know the story of Christine Collins. If someone of standing were to say what a shame and persecute there would be more coming together. What can a TI offer another TI? I don’t know about other TIs but I am a hardened person now. I don’t believe a true TI is afraid. They have nothing to lose so should be able/willing to connect with others. I will tell people though, though things may quiet down at times, you will always be know to this network. http://www.organizedmobbing.com. I hope people check the site out from time to time and check out updates and, I will admit, better wording. Conspiracies hurt people and people get lost in the conspiracy. Thanks.

    Comment by TI — September 9, 2010 @ 1:28 am

  275. Look, I had a little free time..

    You create puzzing questions..ANY OTHER PROBLEM OTHER THAN FREEMASONRY ???.. You may see other problems, Freemasons ARE the problem, WHATEVER problem.There fingers are in ALL. This problem,that problem, OTHER problems !!!!ALL PROBLEMS…Plural..They are the problem !!!They are your neighbors,storekeepers….What other problems….your doctors….lawyers….Emergency services……They create problems… If a NEW problem arises, …Freemasons….I see them everyday. I go to there fucking meetings, see there vehicles that stalked my ass !!!I take pics.get plate no’s. Yea, I got proof, tons of it… Where do you take it???, to a fucking masonic DA, Judge ??? I expose…Thats my weapon.. You dont beleive, go ahead, stay in limbo for 40 yrs. The whole fucking wed sites for victims has turned into a freak show..Socket Puppetry…..thats what you call it !!!.. Damn right it is !!!.. State Troopers in the same building with the Rotary Club…Pure Mason !!!
    Masonic lodge directly across from city police station…Its like this across america….WHY ???

    I know who does it…Im 100% sure. I’ll bet my life on it.. I see it.I feel it its wicked presence.

    drknowitall, you need evidence that there are any other problem whatsoever other than Freemason conspiracy? Really?

    Im a true victim, no, I dont hear voices…

    I dont know you, have no desire to know you… I dont hate you, even if you are one..

    The F.B.I. has them, but they still have desent agents and some with power.

    Like i said, the CIA started all this shit with there fucked up acid trips. AND the government let them do it
    Brought in fucking black magic flakes like A Crowley,magicians,Nazi war criminals..voo doo,witchcraft. They all need to be shot dead !!! All Fucking ACID FREAKS…set around ,got high, hey joe, lets try this, and they would, on themselves and the public, Taylor may be one,WE paid for it.Still paying, still experimenting, gangstalking,electronic crap, drugs,hypnotics, Trauma, STILL doing it !!!
    Slaves are short circuiting now since there are too many in the production lines. The sob’s might think we are..

    Comment by drknowitall — September 9, 2010 @ 1:30 am

  276. Freemason conspiracy. !!!!

    <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>

    These posts are NOT to satisfy your ignorence.lol
    They are for true victims to learn from.

    FREEMASONS ARE A EVIL DEVIL WORSHIPING CULT. This is there god:

    Jah-Bul-On = Jahwah + Baal + Osiris actually there are 3 gods. all 3 are evil as hell !!!

    at the 13 th level, The gods and he are married…forever.

    Comment by drknowitall — September 9, 2010 @ 2:03 am

  277. The great white underbelly” i.e. the community dump….this is the realm of graft and modern day faginism that deals with the underfed, the human-services, the run-aways and orphanages and prisons and prison release programs foster homes half-way houses rehab and cults and whatnot that takes all the miss-begotten riff-raff and manage to turn a tasty profit exploitation that situation in many cheesy way from schools for pick-pockets to dime-bag dealing street urchins to misappropriated government funds to all sorts of scams and rip-offs and “value of a small coin stuff” as the Italians say, gangstalking innocents…this bunch is not so above the law…the protection they have may not hold.Too many rejects,over-production !!! Thank You ,Masons !!

    Got a plane to catch !!!

    Comment by drknowitall — September 9, 2010 @ 12:45 pm

  278. plonk

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 9, 2010 @ 1:30 pm

  279. live fast, die young, make a good looking corpse.

    Comment by diffuse veritgo taylor — September 9, 2010 @ 7:56 pm

  280. Probably the most frightening and sinister document ever written is the
    Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion. It contains
    twenty-four chapters, or Protocols. Protocol 15 is concerned with the
    ruthless suppression of opposition to Jewish Rule. The police are crucial to
    their control, and Masonry is the mechanism of control of the controllers.
    Here is an excerpt from No. 15:
    Meantime, however, until we come into our kingdom, we shall act in the
    contrary way: we shall create and multiply free Masonic lodges in all the
    countries of the world, absorb into them all who may become or who are
    prominent in public activity, for in these lodges we shall find our
    principal intelligence office and means of influence. All these lodges we
    shall bring under one central administration, known to us alone and to all
    others absolutely unknown, which will be composed of our learned elders. The
    lodges will have their representatives who will serve to screen the
    above-mentioned administration of Masonry and from whom will issue the
    watchword and programme. In these lodges we shall tie together the knot
    which binds together all revolutionary and liberal elements. Their
    competition will be made up of all strata of society. The most secret
    political plot will be known to us and will fall under our guiding hands on
    the very day of their conception. AMONG THE MEMBERS OF THESE LODGES WILL BE
    ALMOST ALL THE AGENTS OF INTERNATIONAL AND NATIONAL POLICE since their
    service is for us irreplaceable in the respect that the police is in a
    position not only to use its own particular measures with the insubordinate,
    but also to screen our activities and provide pretexts for discontents, ET
    CETERA.
    According to the Protocols, Freemasonry is under Jewish control. Jews are
    allowed to join any Lodge, naturally, to exercise control of its activities.
    And the Jews have their own, exclusively Jewish Masonic lodge, known as
    B’nai B’rith. The overall control agency of American police departments, as
    mentioned, is the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith, hidden safely in
    the UN Building. The ADL, despite huge dirty spy scandals against police
    departments over the years, continues to tell police whom to hate, whom to
    prosecute, whom to punish. And the police always do what they’re told, which
    makes them our deadly enemies. This will become more apparent in the near
    future.
    The United States was Freemasonic from the very beginning. The following
    essay by this writer from a few years ago shows the Masonic role in the
    writing of the US Constitution. A central bank – the ultimate prize –
    requires a central government, which the Articles of Confederation didn’t
    provide. The Constitution would.
    Our Masonic Constitution
    The US Constitution was a betrayal of the Declaration of Independence. Real
    patriots such as Patrick Henry, George Mason, Richard Henry Lee and a few
    others saw it as a blueprint for empire and fought it. The Bill of Rights
    was added at their insistence as a defense against the Constitution! Big
    Bank whores such as Hamilton and the Federalists didn’t want any enumerated
    rights: They said, “You must trust us and our promises to observe your
    rights.” Henry said, “Not good enough – we need guarantees.”
    In 1976, the Sovereign Grand Commander of the 33rd Degree of Scottish Rite
    Freemasonry, Henry C. Clausen, published a little book called Masons Who
    Helped Shape Our Nation. On page 82, he writes: “Though free, we were not
    yet united [1783]. The loose Articles of Confederation did not provide a
    strong national government, common currency or consistent judicial system.
    Men of vision realized that another step must be taken if the weak
    Confederation of American States was to become a strong, unified nation.
    Again Freemasonry set the pattern in ideology and form. Since the Masonic
    federal system of organization was the only pattern for effective
    organization operating in each of the original Thirteen Colonies, it was
    natural that patriotic Brethren should turn to the organizational base of
    the Craft for a model. Regardless of the other forces that affected the
    formation of the Constitution during the Constitutional Convention in 1787,
    the fact remains that the federalism created is identical to the federalism
    of the Grand Lodge system of Masonic government created in Anderson’s
    Constitutions of 1723

    Comment by drknowitall — September 10, 2010 @ 2:49 am

  281. Drink,Fuck and Party and waiting to join the revelution.

    roll !!!!!

    Comment by drknowitall — September 10, 2010 @ 2:59 am

  282. A more sympathetic audience for your lunatic drivel awaits you back on Stormfront, drknowital. The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion are indeed sinister, being, as everyone knows after all, the invention of Hitler’s genocidal propaganda. So, suck my circumcised dick! Your Neo Nazi hate agendas stands revealed. No wonder you agitate so hard to suppress discourse upon stalking and bullying, the stock and trade of the Brown Shirts. But no one is decieved by you.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 10, 2010 @ 8:27 am

  283. Masons originated in Scotland
    the 13 Illuminati bloodlines includes many non jews..Collins,Sinclairs…
    Im sypathetic to the orthodox jews…they parrished in the camps..Sorry you are angry, i did not write history.

    I could go on forever writing about all races…SOME jews JUST happen to PLAY major roles in Masonic bullshit…And to name names, ROTHSchilds are no. 1 and very satanic.

    Jews + Masons + Intel. agencies + international banking (userers) + Order of Zion + Catholics + Trilateral Commission + CFR + ‘New Age’ + cults = ROTHSCHILDS.

    Jewish Zionist leadership was awarded Israel for their silence on the smuggling out of Germany into the U.S., the sickest ‘beasts’, after piles of dead Jews & U.S. soldiers, that literally died for the love of Satan, NOT ‘God’ & freedom.ROTHSCHILDS.. ALL FACT<NOT FICTION.. WAS AWARDED33rd mason/Illuminati born into wealthy Satanic bloodline–>one of most powerful Satanists in the world–>expert on demonology/CABALA–>@ least Illum. Grand Master–>grew up in Gunzberg–>studied @ Frankfurt-am-Main (Satanic stronghold in Germ.)–>interned @ Leipzig–>later joined SA then SS–>liked violin/piano–>did LOTS of musical key-note programming–>AKA Angel of Death, Vater (father), Vaterchan (daddy), & Schoner Joseph (beautiful Josef) to victims in concentration camps.He also learned from A Crowley, (the whore that rode the beast), 33rd mason, L.R.Hubbard, scientology founder, 33rd mason, worked with CIA, (acid heads/masons)

    Masonic ADL promoted the massacre of ORTHODOX JEWISH CHILDREN IN WWII, so that ASKENAZIM & SANHEDRIN JEWS could benefit.. HISTORY>>>FACT>>>>GET USED TO IT.

    YOU GET YOUR history correct, stop trying to cover up whats happening to this HOLACAUST…The same bullshit they did to the jews in the camps is happening, BUt this time its all races.and have spiced it up a bit with technology. MIND CONTROL.
    NOT ALL JEWS ARE EVIL, IM jewish !!!!
    Angry, yes, i see it happening, no,, the bastards are not going to split our tongues and add salt,or half drown us,fuck us, beat us, BUT, its the same !!!

    IF you are jewish, THEN YOU DEFEND this !!

    You appear to have some intelligence, OPEN your eyes.!!!your mind..YOU just outright accused me.. you know NO history or you are a Mason cult member, which ???.. I speak the truth, ALL Of it. Its documented.. YOU speak in tongues, disagree,NEVER
    PRODUCTIVE.. prove this, The proof is YOU !!!
    You dramatize with loops of fresh dog shit…over and over…

    There are NO true victims on this site.. I knew this,, I like to stir the kettle every now and then.. It fits the “craft”,witchcraft, that is !!

    All this shit thats pulled, harassment,stalking.. A lot of women with children,…are victims, WILL END.. NOT ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT are masonic criminals.

    Read your history,Masons were invented by jews…
    You are victim.. Who you hold repronsible ?? uuuhuhuhuhuhu !!! I hold um all, black,white,yellow..you fool !!!. I KNOW EVERYTHING about the masons…I KNOW more than members…YOU KILL the roots !!!thats how wars are won !!!.. Go back to kindergartan…LOL !!! As a child, Maybe the Rothschilds will snatch you.They make hitler look like a saint !!!

    I have the right to speak about anybody..YOU dont forget that !!You moron!!!, Racist, i lol!!! you defend gangstalking ???.you hate whites ???. You speak garbage..
    There are a lot of jewish victims you ass hole !!!since im jewish, i should say nothing and be stalked…You riddle !!!

    Victims are a whole lot smarter than MOST masons. I play the “drama” thing to stir the kettle, usually it works..Aaron ??

    LONG LIVE ORTHODOX JEWS !!!! They have ALL MY COMPASSION !!!

    I have NO reason to come back to this site. kettle stirred !!!!

    Drink, LAUGH,fuck,party and wait for revolution

    Comment by drknowitall — September 10, 2010 @ 12:12 pm

  284. I’m Back !!!!

    Try JDL… i defend jews, but not my enemy !!!
    what this is really about is orginized stalking.. not jews. My point is, the root of the problem.. You dont kill the branches, you kill the core root.So happens jews own masonry, not my fault. Fact !! Because they are jews im not going to be murdered..that is insane !!!… You need help aaron !!you are but a flunkie..expendable…they will eat you up…and its soon.
    you are a dot of many millions. grind you in your dreams,but is real,split your fuckin tongue!!You are the Brown NOSE..A true SUCCOR !!!.. You are a true,real life shill sucker !!..You think you know pain ??? …….. I know the Rothschilds ?? I know a lot !!!!

    There are fools and then they are fools, by Jacobs

    My commpassion stops. I draw the line…so be it !!!

    Comment by drknowitall — September 10, 2010 @ 2:14 pm

  285. I almost forgot,
    DRink,Laugh,Fuck,Party,and wait for rothschild to fuck aaron !!!
    hey, he dont care what you are, jew,christian,buddi,,….

    Comment by drknowitall — September 10, 2010 @ 2:20 pm

  286. “Masonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teaching of Judaism from the Masonic ritual and what is left?”

    The well known Rabbi Isaac Wis said:

    “Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end. ”
    Undoubtedly already under Jewish influence, Judeo Masonry in Europe took off with the rise to power of the House of Rothschild. Adam Weishaupt who formed the “Illuminati” in 1776 founded the Lodge of Theodore in Munich and was befriended and funded by Meyer Rothschild , whose clerk Sigmund Geisenheimer in his Frankfurt office who had wide Masonic contacts and was a member of the French Grand Orient Lodge called l’Aurore Naissante Lodge. With the help of Daniel Itzig (Court Jew to Frederick William II) and the merchant Isaac Hildesheim (who changed his name to Justus Hiller) he founded the Judenloge.

    “It goes like this,” “The Jesuit/Masonic is the religion. Zionism is the politics — It is a very dangerous and deadly form.

    FREEMASONRY teaches this !!! they chant it at there ceramonies

    Jah-Bul-On = Jahwah + Baal + Osiris ……..this is not our god !!!

    Comment by JEW BOY — September 10, 2010 @ 3:12 pm

  287. Fear No Evil,Speak No Evil…..

    Illuminati death squads FAR superior to Mafia.

    Mishpuka (Jewish mafia) leader Pritzker had shrine consecrated by Dalai Lama; Pritzker’s estate on Haulon Rd., Libertyville, Il., constantly has dead bodies being found on it’s grounds.

    Illuminati kingpins Rockefellar, Onassis & King of Sweden BROUGHT Hitler to power through trade; Spain served as a supply conduit.

    Hitler performed several ritual murders by pulling hearts out of his male victims while they were alive.

    Some of Hitler’s KEY advisors/men were Illum.

    Jewish porfessor Ernst Bergmann is MAJOR advocate of Nazism.

    Mossad silent about smuggling Nazi criminals not just to be given Israel, but because they ALSO hired it’s share of Nazi criminals to learn mind-control.

    Nazi’s used Croats & White Russians to carry out some genocide policies.

    John Foster Dulles–>brother of CIA director–>trustee of Rockefellar Foundation–>helped smuggle Nazi’s, incl. Illum. mind-control experts to U.S.
    Bill Casey–>later CIA dir.–>International Rescue Committee in NY–>smuggled Nazi war criminals into U.S. after war.

    Nazi Germans also LARGELY settled in Portland, Oregon.

    Reinhard Gehlen (Illum.)–>head of Hitler’s Intel.–>worked for CIA after WWII.

    Reinhard Gehlen–>brother of Doc Winters–>Doc Winters lived in Pullach after WWII–>Doc Winters visited by Mengele (Illum. Grand Master) @ Pullach residence.

    Dr. Gaefsky (Bethesada naval Hospital) & Dr. Beecher (Harvard)–>worked under auspices of Cia to perfect use of drugs for mind-controlling people.

    Dr. Jensen–>CIA programmer for Candy Jones ( birth name Jessica Wilcox & CIA alias Arlene Grant). ‘Candy’ received programming @ CIA’s, ‘The Farm’, Camp Peary.

    Dr. William Jennings Bryan helped in CIA programming.

    Dr. James monroe worked for CIA’s mind-control programming.

    Ted Gunderson
    Ted Gunderson retired from the FBI as Special-Agent-In-Charge for Los Angeles after 29 years of service. He has accumulated some of the most damning documentary evidence of wide-spread satanic ritual abuse (and murder) of young children in this country by very high level satanists whose grisly actively is being covered up and protected by governmental agencies of The United States of America. The recent accusation of radio talk show host Art Bell leveled at Ted Gunderson was intended to discredit and undermine Gunderson’s credibility. Now why, I wonder, would anyone want to do that?

    Ford foundation (Illuminati) —> bankrolled ‘Interreligious Peace Colloquim/AKA Muslim Jewish Christian Conference. ‘New World Order’ book by Joseph Gremillon spawned as a result. McGeorge Bundy (Illuminati/Skull & Bones) was Pres. of Ford (Bilderberger/Sanhedrin) Foundation.

    Illuminati front run by SATANIC Jews.
    Rothschild’s financed Bund, Bund financed Satanic Mason Karl Marx to write Communist Manifesto.
    J. Robert Oppenheimer —> CFR —> known Communist.
    Harry Oppenheimer —> international banker —> Chairman of De Beers (Jew) global diamond monopoly.

    TRUTHS MUST BE KNOWN
    This Illuminati,Masonic Conspiricy is REAL!! This ALL ties into Your gangstalking today.

    Gangstalking is very satanic and evil as hell !!The Shills,
    jews,fake christians,buddas,muslims, all, black,white,yellow,red…blue…All do it for a “dime”.
    Now for you real victims that stagger upon this site, watch after i write this, there will be “shills” to call, propaganda,liars,racists,paranoid…Oh, they love to use paranoid !!!We call it , More awareness…..You all are FOOLs whom will pay the piper in due time !!!
    I laugh when the rothschilds comes.. No, victims, it want be for us..The shills have not done there job in “running us crazy”.. They pay…Its funny, Karma , thanks, in advance.

    Drink,Fuck,Party,Wait till the revolution, JBoy

    Comment by JEW BOY — September 10, 2010 @ 4:57 pm

  288. How can you deplore anti-Semitism while at the same time embracing Jewish conspiracy theory? In particular, ‘The Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ is a long exposed Nazi hoax.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 10, 2010 @ 5:05 pm

  289. Hoax, Its documented…Your turn, You prove it was.. !!
    Are you calling The Well known Rabbi a liar ?? Rabbi Wis….
    call him up…What are you smoking ?????…Its before your eyes.. Freemasonry belongs to jews..Its teachings.. yea, BUT the WRONG jews. ALL jews are Good jews, Is that your mentality,therory ???There are good jews, bad jews.A child could figure this out. I will not protect jews that are bad..Jews kill jews just like all humans kill other humans, all races,all religions..BAD JEWS run the Masonic Ring.. They preach 3 gods, all wicked. What the hell is good about that !!…What the hell is good about the masons gangstalkings ???, sure there are plenty of whites, blacks, yea, the flunkies,foot soldiers. Like i said, You go after the roots.Anti-jew, my ass. grow up !!…It appears you DO NOT know the difference between good and bad. This is not a jew issue, it just happens jews run the show.It could have been the jesuits..now, im anti-jesuit… You are in the dark ages. Dont you get it ??? Wake up, Lot of evil whites , fuck them, lot of blacks, fuck them, asians, fuck there ass too !!!
    You go after the leaders….really fuck them.. Freemasons will continue there hate,there evil shit..
    Stalking is serious.The bastards pick on women with children and pick on the children too..sick elderly jewish folks.I know several, Stienburg,Edenburg,Stallos,Fitzpatrick…all being fucked with. they did nothing.ADL laughs at us. These low lifes that stalk us, they are white, all races.. Fuck um..I’ve bloodied a few, they stll come.. The cause of the problem !!!.. the root…These stalkers are brain dead. some are probably anti-jew, hell, they dont know who they work for. Mnay of the members dont know the evil. the secrets..Lot of cops are anti-jew. they dont know who the wicked leaders are.The sherrif around here dont like jews or blacks.. The bastards have flipped me off with children in the car and holler, fuck you jew boy !!..Hell, I know whats going on !!. Fuck me jew boy and there fucking boss is a jew. They dont know.. I never told anybody here i was jewish.. If anybody, I have a reason, a bone to pick with whites !!!…I tried to catch that idiot tht called me that, i backed off because of the children in his vehicle. he did not care, one way or the other.we were up to 90 miles per hr.They use children, They do not value there own children, how can they value life in itself.or your child.Thanks to the Masons…

    I tell all this to the viewers, not just for you.

    YOU want to talk about jews.. Yea, im anti jew towards the bad ones. the ones that tried to wipe out ALL the Orthodox jews from this planet.Not here say, Its documented that the Rothschilds and others played a major role in Hitlers success.ITS all in the books..With estimates of of $600-700 trillon, you can start wars, end wars…Read your history..Sure they had help, from a few so called Catholics, but they hold the power then and now.Who could be proud of that. helped kill millions,
    of there own blood, torutre till this day., mostly children for there perverted pleasures, satanic pleasures. Im embarressed !!!, angry.! They play games with us. the stalking…all the fucking “sync’ shit.very satanic. cold, cold blooded…not from humans. Only ones i know of, are the rothschilds, Collins,Sinclairs and other “whites”. They give orders.. thru the chain of command.. The sorry ass son of bitches are not going to control me !!!.. Im not a puppet, there foot soldiers are !!!

    Get off of the jew shit.. its about freemasonry and stalking…I can like and dislike..
    anti my ass !!!! form a dildo from the the words anti-jew and well, you know ????

    You araron are for gangstalking…You defend them…victims will come thru this site and read this…
    victims are very smart…I know you are not a true victim… when it happens to you, you know what a fellow victim feels in his or her soul. you aint go it !!!…This time, im gone…
    Whatever you say, victims can decide who and what you are !!!… You can not fool the true.
    They will see thru you too !!!

    Comment by JEW BOY — September 10, 2010 @ 6:35 pm

  290. You can hardly google up the search term: “Elders of Zion” without finding the citations you demand. Besides, it can’t be my turn until you’ve played yours. And you won’t even discuss any question of standards of evidence, much less back up your ravings.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 10, 2010 @ 7:47 pm

  291. http://WWW.Organizedmobbing.com

    If you want an illuminati conspiracy, than there will be one. You will have a group of losers coming together calling themselves illuminati…creating signs…symbols etc. That is illuminati. I am not saying that there are not groups formed similarly long ago who are around today with symbols etc. If the group is anything at all, it is too focused on money to be bothered. There are no energy weapons in the hands of regular citizens. Sure, people are creative and come up with all kinds of things but…energy weapons are a myth. When it reaches the point of burning someone, well, then it would better just to kill you out right. Organized mobbing is all mental. They even attack your automobile in non-visible ways. This is not related to satanism, illuminati or whomever else. I am sick of the shit and the lies people post to discredit. If you are a TI (a real one), going to anyone of the ‘popular groups’ like freedomfchs or whatever, is a waste. That is perp central. Never join any group that doesn’t post the times, dates, address of the location where they meet. You should not have to go through anyone to find out. That is the first test. If you are a real TI and want to relate to others, well, you will be discouraged at first…obvious reasons. Take a chance and post your number and not email. If you are for real, stick with it. I tried to form a group with email and, well, didn’t work out. That is why I know so many stories are unreal. If you are a ‘real TI’, then you would want to reach out to others. If you are a real TI, create a blog, and get a bumper sticker. You will reach more people driving than on the internet. Make bumper stickers, T-Shirts, mugs, get the word out. Understand that perps have computers too. They post and lie. The point is too create stories so outrageous that ‘normal’ people will disregard as stupid. So if the story becomes too fantastic, even with real elements, keep that part quiet. I have a website that uses names. The more information I post, the greater and more direct the harassment. I am now ‘directly’ targeted by police. I haven’t used any cop names yet, but they sure keep track of my website. Live your life but don’t ignore the stories online. But you have to filter the real from the fiction. Fiction is a perp. Don’t be fooled: perps know they are not harassing anyone worth harassing most of the time, they are harassing for favors of some sort. They don’t give a damn about you, they want to get what they want to get. Perps are gay, straight, religious, not religious, they have every occupation in the world. Everything you are and do they are and do. They are every racial group. They do, because someone asked them to. That is all. They are getting something out of it. Most of them are not aware of any illuminati plot or elite plot…be real. I rarely shout but COME ON! They do because they were asked. TIs aren’t alone, people see what you are going through, they stay quiet not because of fear, but just lack of care. That is all. It aint me. My website will be up for a short while. It offers names. Even Mark Rich don’t offer that. Slowly the evidence goes up. I do lose evidence from theft. I thought my storage area was safe before it was broken into. My time is limited. So, if you are a prove it person, well, my sight may be of some use to you. If you are a real TI, you should be doing the same. Names, events, occurrences. If they are not willing to connect with others, they probably are not a real TI. You have to be able to see through the phony story.

    Comment by TI — September 17, 2010 @ 9:47 pm

  292. http://www.organizedmobbing.com
    Everyone knows the CIA, for the most part, is an international group. Their focus is not internally. The FBI works internally and they have always been up to shady business. Ok, you can educated people to the shady past of any organization, but, who the hell is interested in that so much? TIs are concerned with what people are doing now because they should be, if they are real, trying to save their lives. So, if offering the same old Cointel Pro shit everyone knows about, your providing useless information. Do a one liner and refer people to their local library that is in disuse if they want to know about Cointel Pro. Wrong name anyway. The Darryl Gates link on my websites, shows that local law enforcement is being crossed trained into these higher level tactics. So CIA, more like local law enforcement using those tactics. Who came up with them? People in the human sciences of psychology. Aren’t they wonderful? Do you really think the local law enforcement is up on any plan? Those numbnuts? Are you stupid? They are robots. They do what they are told to do to fit in. It is better to be the butcher than the cow. They haven’t a clue or care about any plan. Someone says do, they do and don’t ask questions. They rely on the faith that those in charge know what they are doing. That is why they are in charge. People get put into those position because they are thoughtless robots. Let’s face it. The bar to wealth is getting really high. If the system won’t train you with technical knowledge…knowing how to build an Ipad or Ipod or something, well your stuck in service work…low level in most instances and if you are lucky, higher level…auto repair, plumbing, craftmanship of some sort. People aren’t into training what they view as competition. Research and understand that before you criticize, the unemployed or those on welfare. Surely the library is free for a reason and that can be use to assist in behavior, but as far as real knowledge, well, you will be harassed out of the classroom unless you are ‘connected’. That is the educational system of America. I grew up with teaching someone to fish and not giving them one….empowering people…that died in the 70s. It’s all about the edge. Make sure you have it and they don’t by any means necessary. You don’t educate the competitor. You screw them over, take their money for the class and leave them out to dry. Those in control over the knowledge are always trying to maintain the system of need and dependency. To always make sure you ‘need’ them.
    Police officer jobs are still available out of high school as long as you didn’t get into any trouble. Numbnuts. No one needs a smart cop. They need a do as you are told cop and, people love to make others feel good. The actual law means nothing to cops. It is about the new addition to the home, mistress and all the toys they can buy. That is it. Sum total. Find a cop who cares about the law and you have found Serpico.
    I had a cop who came up to me to give me a ticket for sleeping in my car who said, “Are you being harassed?” Well, yes I say…”wrong answer…ticket.” “I wanna make sure you don’t feel like you are being harassed…” Well, at least he can read or at least follow protocol. That is a plus for tax payer money. But obviously unable to handle any other complex ideas in the website, so had a limited focus on harassment. You can’t send a monkey suit who wants to promote to do a man’s job. There is a reason why local law enforcement doesn’t recruit from Harvard to be monkey suits. Stick to the donuts, coffee, the mistresses, treadmill, the boat and stop trying to handle beyond your capabilities. In other words, don’t talk, just do robot.

    Comment by TI — September 17, 2010 @ 10:27 pm

  293. I have no idea how, if at all, you might intend any of the above to come in answer to anything that I have actually asked. Nor why I should be interested.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 17, 2010 @ 10:45 pm

  294. WTF are u Talking About !!
    U lost me in left field.
    U make 0 Sense ????
    Ti…Im running out of here !!!

    Comment by hoodwinked — September 18, 2010 @ 1:21 am

  295. Former shot in the dark Quote – “There are NO true victims on this site..”

    *You* are wrong on that assumption, but the proliferation of paid obstructionists is obvious.

    And of course, not many “real victims” remain because of so-called nonlethal *nerve agents* that are being used covertly.

    Tacrine anyone?

    2002-0233 02/19/2002 BIBLIOGRAPHIC Salem, Harry ARMY Client is searching for Provided client with results of
    toxicolgical information on CBIAC and Toxline database
    Tacrine, an anti- searches.
    cholinesterase inhibitor from
    the perspective of its
    potential use a non-lethal
    weapon.

    Sunshine Report – “Another document (available here) reveals the interest of a senior US Army toxicologist in tacrine, a drug used to treat Alzheimer’s Disease. The Army is not interested in the drug, however, for helping disease victims. Rather, it is assessing use of tacrine as a weapon. In February 2002, at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland, the toxicologist ordered a literature review on its potential for weaponization. Chemically, tacrine is a acetylcholinesterase inhibitor, a first cousin of the nerve gases sarin, tabun, and VX (among others).

    Comment by notbiased — September 18, 2010 @ 6:44 am

  296. “WTF are u Talking About !!” you demand, hoodwinked ALA T1, AKA drknowitall, etc.. Whereas, what I inquire of you is not so much what you are talking about, so much as why. You come across as somewhat obsessed. I think that your real bullying purpose is simply to drown out the questions and grievances of others with your torrentially brain-dead surreal bullshit hate speech.

    unbiased: one can see how even the discussion of flaming only draws more flaming in thin disguise. If you call out the provocateurs on overt hostility, instead the conspiracy nuts come out and hijack the agenda. The only topic more taboo than bullying, is organizing and fighting back. Gang staking is simply a tactic of bullying, both overt harassment and covert relational hostility, dirty tricks and abuse of power. There is no pervasive conspiracy. As long as there is any motivation, incentive or advantage in cheating of whatever kind, a certain population of the population will do it. And unlike us, sociopathic bullies organize fairly readily and act out with impunity. It’s that simple.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 18, 2010 @ 10:09 am

  297. I should add that the stalking is just a subterfuge.

    Comment by notbiased — September 19, 2010 @ 11:23 am

  298. Quote Sunshine Report – “In September 2002, the Sunshine Project presented extensive documentation proving the illicit US chemical warfare program (US Operates Secret Chemical Weapons Program). Since then, a variety of additional details about the program have been unravelled, most recently a US patent on a grenade designed to deliver biological weapons (US Army Patents Biological Weapons Delivery System) and a 1997 research paper from Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (Livermore, CA) on the use of chemical incapacitants, including use of opiates in scenarios similar to that which resulted in the Moscow Theater tragedy (See the Sunshine Project’s JNLWD Document Clearinghouse).

    Incapacitating (Bio)Chemical Weapons Candidates Cited by Pentagon Researchers
    DRUG LEGITIMATE USE COMPANY
    fentanyl analgesic Johnson & Johnson (and others)
    carfentanil veterinary anesthetic Wildlife Pharmaceuticals
    dexmeditomidine anesthetic Abbott Laboratories
    isoflurane anesthetic Abbott Laboratories
    sevoflurane anesthetic Syngenta
    pramipexole Parkinson’s Disease Pharmacia
    CI-1007 experimental Pfizer (2)
    lesopitron experimental anxiolytic Esteve Pharmaceuticals
    MKC-242 experimental antidepressant Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
    ketamine anesthetic Pfizer (and others)
    diazepam (Valium) anxiolytic Hoffman-LaRoche (and others)”

    Comment by notbiased — September 19, 2010 @ 11:38 am

  299. These chemical weapons are not being deployed in Iraq or Afghanistan. The chemicals are being dispersed at, on or around innocent civilians in the United States.

    Comment by notbiased — September 19, 2010 @ 11:49 am

  300. Subtrefuge? How so? Gangstalking serves not only purposes of gas lighting psychological warfare, but may even be a vehicle for campaigns of malicious gossip recruiting unwitting proxies towards mobilizing communities into ostracism. -Most explosively given innuendo of Pedophilia, of course. And no, nothing whatsoever to do with Freemasons. All indications are that this is usually no more than grassroots conspiracy, criminal bullying and deranged vigilantism. Not that the question matters much to the targets of such abuse who need relief in any case. And you’re not helping.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 19, 2010 @ 12:59 pm

  301. U are silly aaron !!
    I dont answer for U or anybody !!
    Ur are pure ridiculous !
    Obsessed !!. I found the truth.. I dig and dig and dig !!!…Im not too happy about being stallked. I dont set back..and listen to guys or girls as u, spewing BS . Never productive, Always critical !!
    talk in circles, mumbo,jumbo…a certain population will do it..Bullying is a terrific disguise.. how about FELONY STALKING. FELONY WIRETAPPIING,ILLEGAL VEHICLE TRACKING,ILLEGAL INTERNET STALKING,FELONY EAVESDROPPING OF HOME, Conspiricy to murder, THEFT,VANDALISUM,.BURGLARY,Property Theft, and more !!!.. Fraud..
    I stated my views… U are bad jew !!! u pay !!, that was my 3 yr. old spreaking !!!
    BULLYING ?? U are dumb. vey dumb. Im smart..I win !!! Low IQ !! a 5 yr. old knows better than that !!
    What u just said is truly dumb thinking and extremely un logical. U deny that anything is going on
    I dug u up !! not good !!! but i want print it…im the white hat guy !!
    Go suck ur finger, the middle one !!!

    Comment by JBoy — September 19, 2010 @ 1:43 pm

  302. U want to make this a jewish issue ??..well, lets give equal time !!!

    HOW DO WE GET FRON GANGSTALKING TO THIS ????

    SO BE IT !!

    Masons jabber there gods JABAULON…BAAL is one, Yahweh is another.
    yep, hitler was a freemason.
    jews on his side, yea right, Rothschilds,for 1

    Holocaust. Dictionaries prior to 1960 defined the word holocaust as human sacrifice, usually by bloodletting, then fire. Now it means something else. This holocaust was done in service to Baal or Moloch, as defined by the countless historical records. This goes on today. It’s more a Canaanite thing, a reptile thing, a Dark Gods thing, than anything else. A Nephilim thing. CBSWORK
    The Old Testament reflects the constant appeasement of Yahweh with blood-atonement sacrifice. This same barbaric concept of blood-atonement represents the very heart of Christianity, as the “scape-god” is sacrificed “for the sins of humankind.” The blood of the god purifies, and the expiatory nature of Christ is evident, as is bludgeoned into the heads of millions around the clock by Christian propagandists. The New Testament line, “His blood be upon us and our children,” is a stock phrase of the blood-atonement ritual and not an admission of murdering God: Christ’s mythical appearance as a “scape-god” was designed to serve as a once-for-all event that would put an end to the periodic blood-atonement sacrifices that had occurred for millennia. As “history” it is insulting and absurd, as Dujardin says, “to imagine that the crowd would demand the death of an innocent man and would wish his blood to be on their heads and those of their children.”
    The rebuttal of those accused or expelled was that these rulers simply wished to seize Jewish assets. Nevertheless, what had been done in ancient times by both Jews and Gentiles, i.e., the sacrifice of both animals and humans by immolation and by slitting the neck and sprinkling the blood upon the congregation, was alleged to be continuing in the priesthoods of the Teutons and the Zionists. The Zionist elite, in fact, had been accused many times over the centuries of using the “common Jews” as well as “Christian children” as pawns and sacrificial victims in its quest for world domination, a quest outlined in the Old Testament, the Jewish Apocrypha and the Talmud. That the Israelite priesthood used its “own people” as sacrificial victims is admitted in the Old Testament, in which not only foreigners but “the Jews” are slaughtered by their handlers to propitiate the angry, jealous Yahweh (Ezekiel 9, et al.). THE ELDERS !!!!! hey, dont get mad at me !!!

    In the documentary Shoah, a 9-hour production in which European survivors of WWII were interviewed, Polish people recalled that as Jews were being herded into trucks they were told by rabbis that this heinous activity was part of God’s punishment for “the Jews killing his son,” thus invoking the old “Christkiller” aspersion, which was used repeatedly to justify violence against the common Jewish folk and the theft of their belongings. In other words, they were being sacrificed to appease God. Indeed, the Holocaust was even considered by some anti-Zionist Jews to be a result of God’s wrath:
    It was a man possessing outstanding Judaic genius, and a level of uncontested holiness who enunciated the Jewish stance regarding Zionism. This charismatic individual, the Rebbe of Satmar, Grand Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum, did not mince any words. Straight to the point he called Zionism ‘the work of Satan,’ ‘a sacrilege’ and ‘a blasphemy.’ . . . The Holocaust, he wept, was a direct result of Zionism, a punishment from G-d.
    It is common knowledge that all the sages and saints in Europe at the time of Hitler’s rise declared that he was a messenger of divine wrath, sent to chasten the Jews because of the bitter apostasy of Zionism against the belief in the eventual messianic redemption. (“Jews Not Zionists”)…
    This makes one wonder if the Holocaust – “burnt offering” – was yet another of the alleged sacrifices by a joint, secret priesthood and occultically-inclined rulers. The fact that the slaughter was named after the burnt offering of biblical priests, is indeed odd; as is the fact that Hitler received large amounts of money from transnational corporations based in America and Britain. Certainly WWII represents the efforts of a cabal, perhaps the Order of Melchizedek, or Righteous Molech.
    The alleged association of Teutons and Zionists is disturbing to many, but there are similarities between the two groups. In the first place, both are the “superior” or “chosen” race – people destined to dominate the world. In the second, Hitler himself reputedly said his ideas of genocide came from the Old Testament. Indeed, the occultic Hitler allegedly considered his behavior to be in accordance with the human sacrifice practices of the ancient world:
    Indeed, according to the “devout Catholic” Hitler and his followers and supporters, which included some Jews, he was the agent of God and Christ, a “priest after the Order of Melchizedek.” In addition, Hitler has in fact been associated with Moloch, both in a movie about him and Eva Braun entitled “Moloch,” which won the Cannes Film Festival prize for best screenplay, and in the following:
    It is also purported that such sacrifices by any number of priesthoods, transcending race and creed, continue to this day in secret sites of the elite. Some members of this elite group, which includes both Jews and Gentiles, allegedly will bring about the destruction of the Muslim “Dome on the Rock” in Jerusalem so “the Jews” can reestablish the Temple for sacrificial rites (ostensibly of animals), an act that would certainly cause major turmoil in the Middle East if not the entire planet. There have in fact been several recent attempts to blow up the Dome, some of which were funded by Jewish/Christian organizations in the U.S.
    In addition, as horrendous and sickening as it was, “the Holocaust” was only a small part of the atrocities committed during WWII, most of which were against tens of millions of non-Jews. It seems that over the decades many of these other victims have been forgotten and few have received any reparations, the bulk of which have gone to Jewish Holocaust survivors. Rarely mentioned are the tens of millions of non-Jewish victims tortured and murdered during WWII, in Europe, in China under Japanese occupation, and in Russia under the Marxists/Stalinists.
    BAAL is the singular name for the negative Reptilians.
    Baal is a Judeo-Christian demon. In the Masonic Royal Arch Degree ritual (13th degree in the Scottish Rite) the sacred god of Freemasonry is revealed as Jah-Bal-On or Jahbuhlun. BUL = Baal, so the world is run by BAAL worshipers
    http://www.whale.to/b/baal_h.html

    HELLO !!!! BAAL is practiced by freemasonry, freemasonry is owned by who ???, i cant hear u?????, i cant hear u ????…dont forget what Rabbi Wis said. We own freemasonry !!

    U are going to hang urself with this jew issue !!!

    Comment by JBOY — September 19, 2010 @ 4:50 pm

  303. Dug up the truth? You couldn’t dig out the slime from between your toes! I don’t even bother to deny anything you rave. You have nothing, no evidence. There is nothing to refute.

    But is bullying the worst problem that there is in the entire world? No. There’s the number one killer of all: aging, there are all manner of needless artificial scarcities, there’s genocide, there are threats to the very survival of life on Earth at all, everything from environmental degradation, loose nukes and rogue asteroids, among so many other contenders for that title. What of it?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 19, 2010 @ 4:56 pm

  304. So, you actually deny the occurrence of serial bullying, even in school and the work place? You can’t have dug all that deep, then! Do you also deny the existence of muggers and pickpockets, or are you contend that they are all under the command of the Freemasons?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 19, 2010 @ 6:26 pm

  305. Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 19, 2010 @ 6:46 pm

  306. You are in the wrong forum for BULLYING..DO NOT GO there with my toes !!!…mind ur own F*** toes….lol…how about ur bald head and beaddy eyeballs ?????, are u a blubber ass too ???

    You will read about a targeted Individual that was placed into a maze of psychological and many times physical warfare tactics which is orchestrated by federal law enforcement. From community harassment tactics known as “Organized Stalking” and various other invasion of privacy, like using GPS tracking with audio & spyware. Violations of basic constitutional rights means nothing. They want the target to be highly overexposed in public. When an individual is targeted they are subjected to a constant “negative environment” campaign which has been given the name “Organized Stalking”. Everywhere a targeted individual goes in public they are tracked and surrounded by angry, hostile participants. All the time, everywhere they go, 24/7/365. If this type of activity was perpetrated solely by law enforcement personnel, it would be rather easy to prove a case of extreme law enforcement harassment. Rather than being constantly surrounded and violated by members of the police, community organizations such as the Freemasons, the Order Of The Eastern star, which are The Supreme Order of the Amaranth, & The United Grand lodges are deployed on the front line.They work in harmony.
    Bullying, way beyond that !!! This is severe criminal activity by the ones that suppose to protect and serve. what has women and children done so terribly to be be haraased to the extreme.. !
    I can make this statement with confidense, If they put forth the energy and resources in stopping real criminals,that they use on us, they would be NO crime. THAT IS THE GODS TRUTH.

    A GOD BORN FROM THE BUTTOCKS OF A COW …A Freemason

    U talk cheap crap !! makes no sense pertaining to the issue at hand

    Back to JEWS..lol!!! Im not trying to prove a damn thing… im giving history lessons

    “The religion of Judaism based on the Babylonian Talmud and the Jewish Kabbalah formed the basis for the Scottish rites 33 ritual degree ceremonies.”

    The Jewish Tribune of New York on October 28th 1927 stated:

    “Masonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teaching of Judaism from the Masonic ritual and what is left?” JABALON

    The well known Rabbi Isaac Wis said:

    “Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end. ”

    The Second Symbol is made by doing as if one is planting the Dagger in the heart of the Brother; beside that one says ‘Nekam’. The other brings his right-hand up to the At the time of the writing of his book Knight reported that England and Wales had in excess of 600 000 initiates into Freemasonry. All have sworn on pain of death and ghastly mutilation not to reveal masonic secrets. “Should he reveal the secrets of the Brotherhood, the Apprentice accepts, among other penalties, to have his tongue torn out; the Fellow Craft to have his heart torn from his breast; the Master Mason to have his bowels burned to ashes; and the exaltee to the Royal Arch accepts in addition’ to have the top of his skull sliced off. But as the rituals themselves express it, the ‘more effective penalty’ for doing anything displeasing to Masonry is to be shunned by the entire Brotherhood, a penalty adequate to bring a man to ruin, the more certainly so as Freemasonry expanded in every in every profession and every branch of society.” In addition, “The religious element creates awe and so adds to the effectiveness of the oath of secrecy.”

    You must conceal all crimes of your brother Masons…and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him…It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you’re keeping your obligations.

    Mormonism, Freemasnry, Witchcraft & Satanism are inextricably interwoven.
    The B’nai B’rith instructs the Mormons/Masons. B’nai B’rith goes by the name The Order; so does Skull & Bones.

    Geneologies put out by Mormon leadership (ALL related), claim to be of Merovingian Dynasty descent, AKA House of David.
    The bee was the Merovingian symbol.
    The bee is the state symbol of Utah & a widely used Mormon symbol.

    Watergate —> CIA —> Robert R. Mullen Co. —> Mormons.

    Mormons practice DRUIDIC WITCHCRAFT, the highest of it’s kind in North America.
    A race of children were GENOCIDED in residential schools, B4 children of Orthodox Jews were GENOCIDED in Germany.
    That is child sacrifice.
    Magic.
    Charles Manson was a Masonic Witch of the O.T.O. (Order of To Ov/Order of Templi Orientis) Lodge called the Process Church of the Final Judgement.

    The National Council of Churches (N.C.C.) is a Communist/Masonic front (Mystery Religion/Satanism) that has the Church of Satan (Temple of Set) as a member.

    LDS Mormon Presidents, present geneologies tracing lineage to Merovingians, Sythians, Sicambri, Cimmerans, etc.

    Witches International Coven Council (WICCA) is a front for misopaisic horrorfication, via infiltration of churches, schools, ‘clubs’, foster/day care, etc.

    The Rothschilds are Askenazim Jews/International Bankers connected to the Bilderbergers, which is an alliance between Satanic bloodlines claiming devine god-ship.all 33rd masons

    Kissinger, a sadistic misopaisic horrorficator, was a Bilderberger.33rd mason

    Candidates entering the Order also had to kiss their initiator on the mouth, the navel, the penis, and at “the base of the spine.” These kisses were regarded by critics of the Order as proof of their perverted sexual activities, but in the occult tradition, the navel, sexual organs and the perineum are the physical locations of the psychic centres of the human body, known in the East as chakras.

    u are really Mrs ?? or miss ??

    Comment by JBOY — September 19, 2010 @ 7:35 pm

  307. As ever, disengage brain, open mouth, launch obsessive rambling screed! Bullshit. As this is a thread on the topic of gangstalking, then my position, also shared by veritgo taylor, that gangstalking is a method of bullying to be understood in that context, remains as pertinent as it is obviously true. Indeed, given that the first comment posted was about suppression of discussion upon the very subject of gangstalking, the discussion upon flaming is also opened. Indeed, you are the one hijacking the agenda into conspiracy theory and hate speech, thou troll.

    But let’s move on to a more interesting question: Why are you and veritgo taylor both against taking any action?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 19, 2010 @ 10:48 pm

  308. Verbal irony? Complainers shouldn’t be compelled to speak…that refers to me. I mean me. I am weary over my own complaints so, I need to rest this. I always read something disturbing and than I get upset. I am sure people may feel the same regarding my posts. Gang stalking isn’t a single group. I comprises everyone. Everyone. I will say including myself. I include myself, because I am also to blame. Ask if I see someone suffering if I care. I had someone ask me that in a philosophy group why should anyone care about such and such which is the typical normal response would be it is wrong, it is improper, horrific. The response was, why should anyone care. My response was…because it is wrong. I felt then and now, it was a weak argument. I haven’t established a better one yet. Just saying, because it is wrong, grants me and wins me no argument. What is wrong? Well, truth is, no one has to care unless they desire to. In the human animal world not a good break. Too clever…unlimited in the means of treachery. In the other animal world, well, you stand a chance. limited means of treachery. Hopefully I will come back a worm. Yes, the truth of it has to care. But than that applies to everyone. Sure there are laws, but, well, what are they. I don’t even know what that means. What are laws? I don’t know. I haven’t thought that through completely. In the world of Machiavelli, what is a law? A display of some kind but I don’t know what. A law is a gang, I believe, who is able to enforce some abstract notion of gang law. Some are in the gang and some are out. Anyone remember what Andrew Jackson said to the Supreme Court? Yes, that’s right. People throughout history are upset at the farce of Law and will continue to be. The law is a gang that you must be apart of. Civil liberties, justice, constitutions, bill of rights whatever they are…abstract notions of something. I don’t care about them or, how they are violated by people or they are used to suppress others. You get macheted, well, you should have been apart of a stronger gang. That is survival of the fittest. I like Darwin more and more these days. I like that idea more and more because, there will always be a stronger gang someone will have to contend with, even perps. Yes, I know. I have fallen prey to the perp handbook of victimology. Certainly, they want people demoralized. May you fair better. Think small if you choose to think that is. Watch out for your neighbor.

    Comment by Target — September 28, 2010 @ 2:36 am

  309. Semantics! The topic is gangstalking, stalking carried out collectively by numerous individuals. And not everyone engages in stalking of any kind, let alone stalking in collaboration with others. And your rambling Nihilism, denying any possibility of decency or rule of law, can only rationalize helpless passivity in the face of injustice. Alas, that only seems par for the course.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 28, 2010 @ 7:49 am

  310. Subterfuge, Aaron.

    If you become a victim of this total “program,” you will soon need this information and more that I and others have provided.

    The organized stalking *is* a “subterfuge” and much more, if you are a victim of this chemical and electronic psychological operation, designed to distract and destroy those targeted by this *program.*

    Are you *just* a victim of “school bullies?”

    Then be happy that you are *just* that, although that sucks too.

    Oh and “jboy” appears to be just another subterfuge too, like piling on to hide the truth, duh.

    Comment by notbiased — September 30, 2010 @ 3:00 am

  311. And what exactly would one do with your information?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 30, 2010 @ 5:31 am

  312. Quote – “And what exactly would one do with your information?”

    If you don’t know, you are *definitely* in the wrong place.

    I hope your situation improves or gets better, whatever it is.

    Have a wonderful day,

    unbiased

    Comment by notbiased — October 3, 2010 @ 4:14 am

  313. Actually took you a while to full out that old dodge, has it? But you are exposed nevertheless, for as the saying goes: No question is too stupid to ask, and no answer too wise to be given. My question is certainly the first question that would come to mind for anyone experiencing such attacks whereof you rant. And you’ve already answered that the only action to take is consciousness raising by Spamming and flaming every forum in sight exactly as you are doing, demanding to be taken on faith alone and demonizing anyone who so shows so much credulity as to request your evidence! You are a troll and force for inaction. And again, I am the one of us in topic in the right thread. And I am ready to discuss what to do about flaming and bullying. You are the one full of subterfuge, making yourself the center of attention with no real intention of persuasively informing anyone, but simply disrupting all serious discourse wherever you can find it, and in such a flagrantly irrational semi-coherent and belligerent manner as to make everyone else appear as loony crank as you by association. The best way to overcome the likes of you is for others simply not to be intimidated into silence or distracted from topic.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — October 3, 2010 @ 9:22 am

  314. Agassi, *your big rant* is nothing more than crap, *nothing more*.

    Have a nice day, perp.

    You are part of *the* topic.

    Comment by unbiased — October 4, 2010 @ 4:38 am

  315. Agassi, I forgot to say, why don’t you try using *paragraphs* in your “rants.” But of course your lack of education probably precludes grammar.

    Comment by unbiased — October 4, 2010 @ 4:50 am

  316. We all know everything !!!….
    victims are the “profane” ones it is taught to hate us. !!!!
    jibber,jabber by ones that know 0….UR minds stay in limbo, ONLY because you fear the truth !!!???.

    Who the hell preaches this ???? “PROFANE ONES”

    All of u. bring “drama” to the table every fuck*** time !!!

    U say 00000. amounts to 0..Now what have we all learned today boys and girls !!!!???? 000000000
    im a f*** nazi, great, what are u ??? Oh im a sudterfuge !!!
    how bout the guy pointing, what is he or she ???.. lets call ea. other names for the next f**** 50 yrs. !!

    How Pathetic !!!!

    Comment by JewB — October 4, 2010 @ 3:24 pm

  317. This is how a controlled Masonic drone/slave thinks;

    We are a good, charitable, fraternity of men?
    We all use numerous aliases and hide behind the curtains.
    We are profound liars. This is one of our first lessons.
    We award chocolate medals for telling lies on behalf of the brotherhood.
    We defend each other no matter what.
    We are masters of disinformation.
    We feel confident hiding behind our Master’s apron.
    We are all gang-stalkers.
    We are masters of cheap psychology.
    We don’t even know the truth as we are all controlled individually.
    We are guaranteed a job for life, regardless of qualifications.
    We use trusted Masonic families and friends to carry out Masonic Theatre.
    We knew about 911 before the profane did. It gave us empowerment.
    We have no idea what our fellow Mason’s are up to.
    We are all eyes and ears for our puppet masters, the intelligent elite.
    We do a profile on everybody.
    We even brainwash our innocent offspring into Freekmasonry.
    We don’t care about anything outside Freekmasonry.
    We collectively destroy families, businesses, anything, anybody.
    We work by cowardly stealth.
    We only eat Masonic flavoured carrots. No other story/version will do.
    We are masters at wasting your valuable time, no matter how trivial.
    We control all CCTV and it only works if we say so.
    The “G” in Freekmasonry means Gobble De Gook.
    We are destroying the planet and it’s contents for total control.
    We are just puppets for the elite.
    We actually believe in Freekmasonry.
    We take orders on how to get inside your head.
    We control the Military, Government, Judiciary, NHS, Finances, You.
    We control all of your communications.
    We are the invisible terrorists within all communities.
    We have infiltrated all religions.
    We do a lot for corrupt Masonic controlled charities.
    We love stupid symbols and believe in them.
    We all childishly giggle on collective persecution of one victim.
    We control all crime, drugs and the misery that comes with it.
    We can isolate (ostracize) any chosen individual.
    We are undiluted evil dressed up as good.
    We have been programmed to “HATE” profane (uninitiated) people.
    We will label truth-seekers or victims as being delusional or paranoid.
    We have a new name in the UK, it’s called “Common Purpose”
    We are very good at sowing seeds into your head.
    We control all TV, radio and newspapers.
    We fabricate and manipulate all hatred, rumour, revenge and evil.
    We are a criminal cult, religion, network, organisation.
    We are 100% calculated derangement.
    We destroy all genuine Masonic victim’s groups, forums and truth-seekers.
    We are protected by “The Order Of The Police”
    We have lodges in every Police, Government, NHS, Judiciary, Military Dept.
    We have a contact number if things go wrong.
    We get rewarded for our persecution and allegiance.
    We fabricate wars, poverty, politics, terrorism, etc.
    We specialise in Masonic Theatre of all types, including terrorism.
    We kill the good guys and anything that represents good.
    We infect everything we touch.
    We strive for genocide.
    We keep criminal secrets upon pain of death.
    We are absolutely terrified to leave this criminal fraternity.
    We pretend to believe in a deity.
    We believe in sacrifice, Lucifer, Satan, The Horned God and anything bad.
    We live in a parallel world to the ignorant law abiding taxpayers.
    We use thousands of different group names world-wide.
    We get pleasure watching innocent profane people suffer.
    We are so mentally messed up, we think we’re in control.
    We are the most grand, wondrous, worshipful “LEMONS”
    All religions, debating groups, secret societies or societies with secrets (their get out clause), etc, etc, are under the umbrella of Freekmasonry.

    Comment by JewB — October 4, 2010 @ 3:34 pm

  318. There’s a sucker born every minute.”

    “…and a 32nd or 33rd degree Mason is behind the veil laughing his head off and rolling in the aisle every time a new sucker is initiated into the 1st degree of Freemasonry.”

    Comment by JewB — October 4, 2010 @ 3:48 pm

  319. Lets all learn something today boys and girls :

    Both Nazism and the New Age Movement are political/spiritual entities based on the same esoteric foundations: the ‘Secret Doctrine’ which has been at the base of all pagan religions and at the base of esoteric ‘Christianity’. Perhaps that ‘Secret Doctrine’ might be best summarized as being the antithesis of Judeo-Christian beliefs. The Secret Doctrine glorifies Lucifer and all the practices condemned in the Bible. The Secret Doctrine also glorifies the pre-flood world, a world that, according to both the Bible and the Secret Doctrine, was alive with demonic contact and psycho/spiritual power …” [The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow: The New Age Movement And Our Coming Age of Barbarism", by Constance Cumbey, Huntington House, Inc., Shreveport, Loiuisiana, 1983, ISBN 0-910311-03-X, p. 102-3 [Note: Cumbey is a Christian author, very Fundamental]
    Blavatsky, H.P. , is one of the most Satanic/Luciferian leaders of history!! It is absolutely damning for Freemasonry to recommend her books! Consider Helene Petrovna Blavatsky (1836-1891). She was Russian, and was the co-founder of the Theosophical Society, and occultist who systematized ancient occult thought, producing the most Satanic treatise the world has ever seen, known as the ‘Secret Doctrine’. ["The New Age Dictionary", edited by Alex Jack, Japan Publications, Inc., 1990, The Year of the Golden Horse, New York, ISBN 0-87040-787-2, p. 23]
    Blavatsky’s writings, especially her ‘Secret Doctrine’, had tremendous effect upon Adolf Hitler in the years preceding Hitler’s rise to power. The false aura of intellectual achievement which surrounded Blavatsky’s writings, especially the ‘Secret Doctrine’, provided the basis for Hitler to justify killing Jews. During the Holocaust, which lasted for seven [7] years, 6 million Jews and 12 million other victims died. On Judgment Day, Blavatsky and Hitler will stand together for these terrible murders.
    Freemasonry stands condemned today for recommending that their followers read and study Blavatsky!! We find it totally revolting that Freemasonry’s own symbol entitled, “The Old Wisdom Religion”, lists ‘Secret Doctrine’ as one of the antecedent steps that leads to “Modern Freemasonry”!
    Freemasonry totally loses its ability to call itself ‘Christian’ when it recommends Eastern Thought religions to its members.
    Freemasonry labels itself as being of the same cloth as Antichrist when they recommend Gnostic writings and beliefs to their members!!
    Thus, by encouraging their members to study and practice Hermeticism, Freemasonry, by definition, labels itself occultic.
    This Luciferian book on Magic ties this deeply Satanic Knights Templar to Modern Freemasonry! Christian author, Gary Kah, in his book, “Enroute To A Global Occupation”, discovered from Freemasonry literature that accidentally fell into his hands, that Modern Freemasonry links itself to the Knights Templar. When we peruse some of the literature which Freemasons are encouraged to study, you will see repeated references to Knights Templar. Indeed, the 13th Degree of the York Rite is titled, “Knights Templar”. [page 92, Kah]
    Homosexuality is very tightly tied in with the Knights Templar. In the paragraph above, we see homosexual practices such as Phallicism and Sodomy. The Luciferian book, “Mind & Magic” also quoted above, sodomy is listed as one of the crimes of Knights Templar. The Grand Master at the time when King Philip IV of France tried and executed key members, was named Jacques de Molay. Since de Molay was Grand Master of Knights Templar, we can rightly conclude that he was also involved in these Satanic, and homosexual acts. We find it highly disturbing, then, that Demolay is one of the orders of Freemasonry for young men!
    Candidates entering the Order also had to kiss their initiator on the mouth, the navel, the penis, and at “the base of the spine.” These kisses were regarded by critics of the Order as proof of their perverted sexual activities, but in the occult tradition, the navel, sexual organs and the perineum are the physical locations of the psychic centres of the human body, known in the East as chakras.
    A GOD BORN FROM THE BUTTOCKS OF A COW
    Qabalah [also known as Kabbalah. "According to Albert Pike, Gnosticism was an offshoot of Kabalism, an oral occult tradition, which was adhered to by a minority of the Jews. At some point, which remains uncertain, these occult teachings were reduced to writing, and the Kabalah was born. On page 626 of 'Morals and Dogma', Pike states, 'The Kabalah is the key of the occult sciences; and the Gnostics were born of the Kabalists'. Kabalism was merely a unique version of the ancient mysteries specifically designed to deceive God's chosen people. Unlike the other mysteries, its teachings dealt specifically with Israel, offering occult counter-explanations to the revelations of the prophets, complete with a cleverly disguised occult interpretation of the history of Israel." ["Enroute To Global Occupation", by Gary Kah, Huntington House Publishers, Lafayette, Louisiana, 1992, ISBN 0-910311-97-8, p. 99]
    Freemasonry identifies itself with the Kabalah, one of the most Satanic and occultic writings ever. It seems incredible to me that the New Age is so dependent upon the Jewish occult Kabalah, because their Plan deliberately targets the destruction of all Jews.

    Rosicrucianism is one of the oldest occult secret societies in Europe, dating back to the Fourteenth Century. The supposed founder of Rosicrucianism was a man named Christian Rosenkreuz. He was a “noble German born in 1378, who had traveled to the East in search of hidden wisdom … In Damascus he first learned of the secret wisdom to be found in the mysterious Arabian city of Damcar. Here, he was taught much by the initiates of a mystical secret society, learned Arabic, and translated an unidentified book, the ‘Liber M’. From here, he traveled to the North African city of Fez, in Morocco, where he learned to evoke the spirits of Fire, Earth, Air, and Water. He subsequently returned to Europe and, after further adventures, he and four others founded the Rosicrucian Fraternity.” ["Mind & Magic," by Francis X. King, Crescent, ISBN 0-517-06036-1, p. 102. [Note: This is a Luciferian book]
    Freemasonry advocates the study of Rosicrucianism to its members, even to the point of dedicating the 18th Degree called the “Knight Rose Croix” ["Morals and Dogma", Albert Pike,
    Sacred Geometry is only believed in by the occultist; the very fact that Freemasonry is advocating this subject to its members concretely PROVES it is occultic, not Christian. This nonsense is the ultimate instance of worshipping the created world rather than the Creator [Romans 1:25]!! Let me explain Sacred Geometry: it is the “art and science of describing the universe by number and universal patterns.” ["The New Age Dictionary", edited by Alex Jack, Japan Publications, Inc., 1990, The Year of the Golden Horse, New York, ISBN 0-87040-787-2, p. 170]
    Congratulations, Freemasonry, you are encouraging your members to study a religion which God found so offensive, He sent special diseases to the Egyptian people as punishment!!
    Theosophy has already been covered by our treatise on Madame H. P. Blavatsky. But, we wish to reiterate that the House of Theosophy has been one of the darkest of the Satanic secret societies. It propagated the lie of the ‘Secret Doctrine’, prompting Hitler to launch his 7-year Holocaust, which murdered 18 million people. The House of Theosophy trained both Nazis and Communists in its Switzerland location in the 1920′s-30′s in the finer aspects of the occult. And, as you can see, in NEWS1052, the House of Theosophy continues to be at the forefront for the planning of the coming New Age Christ [Antichrist], and his False Prophet.

    Comment by JewB — October 4, 2010 @ 4:09 pm

  320. NOTE: I DO NOT post this for the eyes of the aarons,unbiased or any other critical one. This posting is for the 1 or 2 that truly believe in the truth.The TRUTH will set U free !!!. As im breathing this moment in time, your culprit are the low life freemasons that do this to u. !! U can easily prove this by looking up there meeting places, lodges on line, in ur town, go to some of the meetings.. set outside, i can guarentee u, u will see ones that fuck with u !!! especially the diry cops and fireman.
    Look up, online freemason police badges,emblems ???? why do they have such a market duh !!!!…The non-masonic f.b.i. have already aquired the mailing lists of these stores ????
    whats on the mailing lists ? names of cops in every city that are freemason
    and that alone ties to gangstalking. I guarentee u, these faces u see fucking with u are on that list. fireman too !!!.. U know real victims…I have many on tape at the lodges going in that fuck with me. JUDGEMENT DAY is near !!! All stay strong !!!

    Comment by JewB — October 4, 2010 @ 4:37 pm

  321. Why do masons wear aprons in the groin area ???

    1.there penis is hard and they try to hide it !!!
    2. there are embarassed because it is nOT hard ??
    3.Its a skirt to be pulled up in initates ceromony ?

    All who get its it right gets choco covered carrots for supper !!!

    Comment by JewB — October 4, 2010 @ 5:27 pm

  322. You bluster relentlessly and impose yourself upon everyone else shamelessly. No: This topic thread certainly did not begin on your tyrannical believers only terms, nor any such intolerant join us comrade of fuck off basis. But do let me know when you discover your like minded soul mate.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — October 5, 2010 @ 6:19 am

  323. i have a lot of picopath of my cace asking the organized crimanals to help um and i had to ask what web address is anti organized criminal

    Comment by dupreturner — October 5, 2010 @ 6:37 am

  324. web site needed to anti org crim gane stalking

    Comment by dupreturner — October 5, 2010 @ 6:38 am

  325. We love u at Freemason controlled National Sercurity Agency..

    How NSA access was built into Windows
    http://www.heise.de/tp/english/inhalt/te/5263/1.html
    Duncan Campbell
    04.09.1999 – Telepolis
    Careless mistake reveals subversion of Windows by NSA.
    A CARELESS mistake by Microsoft programmers has revealed that special access codes prepared by the US National Security Agency have been secretly built into Windows. The NSA access system is built into every version of the Windows operating system now in use, except early releases of Windows 95 (and its predecessors). The discovery comes close on the heels of the revelations earlier this year that another US software giant, Lotus, had built an NSA “help information” trapdoor into its Notes system, and that security functions on other software systems had been deliberately crippled.
    The first discovery of the new NSA access system was made two years ago by British researcher Dr Nicko van Someren. But it was only a few weeks ago when a second researcher rediscovered the access system. With it, he found the evidence linking it to NSA.
    Computer security specialists have been aware for two years that unusual features are contained inside a standard Windows software “driver” used for security and encryption functions. The driver, called ADVAPI.DLL, enables and controls a range of security functions. If you use Windows, you will find it in the C:\Windows\system directory of your computer.
    ADVAPI.DLL works closely with Microsoft Internet Explorer, but will only run crypographic functions that the US governments allows Microsoft to export. That information is bad enough news, from a European point of view. Now, it turns out that ADVAPI will run special programmes inserted and controlled by NSA. As yet, no-one knows what these programmes are, or what they do.
    Dr Nicko van Someren reported at last year’s Crypto 98 conference that he had disassembled the ADVADPI driver. He found it contained two different keys. One was used by Microsoft to control the cryptographic functions enabled in Windows, in compliance with US export regulations. But the reason for building in a second key, or who owned it, remained a mystery.
    A second key
    Two weeks ago, a US security company came up with conclusive evidence that the second key belongs to NSA. Like Dr van Someren, Andrew Fernandez, chief scientist with Cryptonym of Morrisville, North Carolina, had been probing the presence and significance of the two keys. Then he checked the latest Service Pack release for Windows NT4,
    Service Pack 5. He found that Microsoft’s developers had failed to remove or “strip” the debugging symbols used to test this software before they released it. Inside the code were the labels for the two keys. One was called “KEY”. The other was called “NSAKEY”.
    Fernandes reported his re-discovery of the two CAPI keys, and their secret meaning, to “Advances in Cryptology, Crypto’99″ conference held in Santa Barbara. According to those present at the conference, Windows developers attending the conference did not deny that the “NSA” key was built into their software. But they refused to talk about what the key did, or why it had been put there without users’ knowledge.
    A third key?!
    But according to two witnesses attending the conference, even Microsoft’s top crypto programmers were astonished to learn that the version of ADVAPI.DLL shipping with Windows 2000 contains not two, but three keys. Brian LaMachia, head of CAPI development at Microsoft was “stunned” to learn of these discoveries, by outsiders. The latest discovery by Dr van Someren is based on advanced search methods which test and report on the “entropy” of programming code.
    Within the Microsoft organisation, access to Windows source code is said to be highly compartmentalized, making it easy for modifications to be inserted without the knowledge of even the respective product managers.
    Researchers are divided about whether the NSA key could be intended to let US government users of Windows run classified cryptosystems on their machines or whether it is intended to open up anyone’s and everyone’s Windows computer to intelligence gathering techniques deployed by NSA’s burgeoning corps of “information warriors”.
    According to Fernandez of Cryptonym, the result of having the secret key inside your Windows operating system “is that it is tremendously easier for the NSA to load unauthorized security services on all copies of Microsoft Windows, and once these security services are loaded, they can effectively compromise your entire operating system”. The NSA key is contained inside all versions of Windows from Windows 95 OSR2 onwards.
    “For non-American IT managers relying on Windows NT to operate highly secure data centres, this find is worrying”, he added. “The US government is currently making it as difficult as possible for “strong” crypto to be used outside of the US. That they have also installed a cryptographic back-door in the world’s most abundant operating system should send a strong message to foreign IT managers”.
    “How is an IT manager to feel when they learn that in every copy of Windows sold, Microsoft has a ‘back door’ for NSA – making it orders of magnitude easier for the US government to access your computer?” he asked.
    Can the loophole be turned round against the snoopers?
    Dr van Someren feels that the primary purpose of the NSA key inside Windows may be for legitimate US government use. But he says that there cannot be a legitimate explanation for the third key in Windows 2000 CAPI. “It looks more fishy”, he said.
    Fernandez believes that NSA’s built-in loophole can be turned round against the snoopers. The NSA key inside CAPI can be replaced by your own key, and used to sign cryptographic security modules from overseas or unauthorised third parties, unapproved by Microsoft or the NSA. This is exactly what the US government has been trying to prevent. A demonstration “how to do it” program that replaces the NSA key can be found on Cryptonym’s website.
    According to one leading US cryptographer, the IT world should be thankful that the subversion of Windows by NSA has come to light before the arrival of CPUs that handles encrypted instruction sets. These would make the type of discoveries made this month impossible. “Had the next-generation CPU’s with encrypted instruction sets already been deployed, we would have never found out about NSAKEY.”

    Comment by UAREEXPOSED — October 5, 2010 @ 2:43 pm

  326. DRINK<FUCK<PARTY<wait ON UR INCARCERATION

    Comment by UAREEXPOSED — October 5, 2010 @ 2:54 pm

  327. Judaism and the Dangers of “Torah Kabbalah or Torah Yoga”

    Exodus 34:14
    For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

    Before we discuss the above topic it is imperative that we first understand God’s Word and Position on “Torah Yoga”.

    Twelve Forbidden Practices

    1. Enchantments: practice of magical arts (Exodus 7:11,22; Exodus 8:7,18; Leviticus 19:26; Deut. 18:10; 2 Chron. 33:6; 2 Kings 17:17; 2 Kings 21:6; Isaiah 47:9,12; Jeremiah 27:9; Daniel 1:20)

    2. Witchcraft: practice of dealing with evil spirits (Exodus 22:18; Deut. 18:10; 1 Samuel 15:23; 2 Chron. 33:6; 2 Kings 9:22; Micah 5:12; Nahum 3:4; Galatians 5:19-21)

    3. Sorcery: same as witchcraft (Exodus 7:11; Isaiah 47:9,12; Isaiah 57:3; Jeremiah 27:9; Daniel 2:2; Malachi 3:5; Acts 8:9-11; Acts 13:6-8; Rev. 9:21; 18:23; Rev. 21:8; Rev. 22:15)

    4. Soothsaying: same as witchcraft (Isaiah 2:6; Daniel 2:27; Daniel 4:7; Daniel 5:7,11; Micah 5:12)

    5. Divination: the art of mystic insight or fortunetelling (Numbers 22:7; Numbers 23:23; Deut. 18:10-14; 2 Kings 17:17; 1 Samuel 6:2; Jeremiah 14:14; Jeremiah 27:9; Jeremiah 29:8; Ezekiel 12:24; Ezekiel 13:6-7,23; Ezekiel 21:22-29; Ezekiel 22:28; Micah 3:7; Zech. 10:2; Acts 16:16)

    6. Wizardry: same as witchcraft. A wizard is a male and a witch is a female who practices witchcraft. Both were to be destroyed in Israel (Exodus 22:18; Leviticus 19:31; Leviticus 20:6,27; Deut. 18:11; 1 Samuel 28:3,9; 2 Kings 21:6; 2 Kings 23:24; 2 Chron. 33:6; Isaiah 19:3)

    7. Necromancy: divination by means of pretended communication with the dead (Deut. 18:11; Isaiah 8:19; 1 Samuel 28; 1 Chron. 10:13)

    8. Magic: any pretended supernatural art or practice (Genesis 41:8,24; Exodus 7:11,22; Exodus 8:7,18-19; Exodus 9:11; Daniel 1:20; Daniel 2:2,10,27; Daniel 4:7,9; Daniel 5:11; Acts 19:19)

    9. Charm: to put a spell upon (same as enchantment, Deut. 18:11; Isaiah 19:3)

    10. Prognostication: to foretell by indications, omens, signs, etc. (Isaiah 47:13)

    11. Observing times: same as prognostication (Leviticus 19:26; Deut. 18:10; 2 Kings 21:6; 2 Chron. 33:6)

    12. Astrology and Star Gazing: divination by stars (Isaiah 47:13; Jeremiah 10:2; Daniel 1:20; Daniel 2:2,10; Daniel 4:7; Daniel 5:7-15)

    All the above practices were and still are carried on in connection with demons, called familiar spirits. All who forsook God and sought help from these demons were to be destroyed (Leviticus 19:31; Leviticus 20:6; Deut. 18:11; 1 Samuel 28; 2 Kings 21:6; 2 Kings 23:24; 1 Chron. 10:13; 2 Chron. 33:6; Isaiah 8:19; Isaiah 19:3; Isaiah 29:4. See 1 Tim. 4:1-8; 2 Thes. 2:8-12; Matthew 24:24; Rev. 13; Rev. 16:13-16; Rev. 19:20).

    KABBALAH
    by Avram Yehoshua

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    Kabbalah is an attempt on the part of some Jewish men and women, to seek the God of Israel through mystical and Gnostic means. For many centuries it was well outside normative Judaism, although today it has permeated into Orthodox Judaism and also claims many ‘secular’ Jewish (and Gentile) adherents. Kabbalah is a counterfeit of Satan. The main reason for this is that man is seen as having to restore the fallen world by his efforts which will bring about the coming of Messiah. Also, the ‘way’ to God is accomplished through rigorous fasting and spiritual disciplines that are outside the realm of the Bible. This is common to most false religions that seek union with the Divine. (In this article, all italics have been added by me for emphasis.)

    David Stern writes that the Hasidim and the Kabbalists, impatient for Messiah and redemption, force His Hand by ‘…years of ruthless mortification of their flesh. In each case, of course, they were prevented, by death, by Satan, or by some sin which they committed’1 of compelling Messiah to come:

    ‘In one of these legends…the 14th century Rabbi Joseph Della Reina (‘of the Queen’) attempts, with the help of the Prophet Elijah, to destroy Satan (disguised as a black dog), using God’s secret names. But he doesn’t follow Elijah’s instructions to the letter and thus fails in his task. Later he goes astray, having illicit sexual relations with none other than the Queen of France (hence his name), and ultimately commits suicide.’2

    We have serious biblical problems with the rabbi ‘using God’s secret names to destroy Satan’ and the meeting with Elijah to help him do so. This, aside from the fact that he committed suicide. Trying to force God’s Hand or to destroy Satan is pride masquerading in religious clothing.

    One must ask, ‘If Kabbalah were really of Yahveh, the God of Israel, than why didn’t the rabbi know or come to find out about Yeshua, the Redeemer of Israel?’ And why hasn’t anyone within Kabbalah proclaimed in the last 2,000 years, that Yeshua is the Messiah, if they actually make contact with the God of Israel?

    Another rabbi of fame and stature within Hasidic and Kabbalistic circles is Rabbi Nachman of Bratslav (1772-1811). The following story is attributed to him:

    ‘…Satan, disguised as a merchant, prevents a rabbi’s son from meeting with a great tzaddik (holy man). In the end the son dies. The rabbi again encounters the merchant, who tells him, ‘Now I have dispatched your son… had he and the tzaddik met and joined forces, the Messiah would have come.’

    Kabbalah is a mixture of demonic activity, pagan philosophy, gnosticism and the Hebrew Bible. Kabbalah is,

    ‘The mystical religious stream in Judaism… In all periods it was influenced by foreign spiritual currents, such as gnosticism and neoplatonism3…’4

    ‘A distinction was usually made between theoretical and practical Kabbalah; the latter consisted of the use of Divine or Holy Names, the permutation and combination of Hebrew letters, magical formulae (amulets), etc. for healing the sick and other practical purposes and also for eschatological and genuinely mystical ends (hastening the advent of the messiah, inducing states of mystical or ecstatic experience, etc.).5

    The use of Divine names ‘to get to God’ is not the Way of Yahveh. The fruit of this is seen in that magic and amulets are used. This is sin as it goes against Yahveh’s Word in His Torah (Deut. 18:10, 14). These Jewish mystics opened a spiritual door, but not one you want to go through. Notice too the eclectic 6 and over-arching nature of it (‘In all periods it was influenced by foreign spiritual currents…’). What could Kabbalah have picked up from pagan mysticism and philosophy (about Creation, etc.), outside of Israel and the Word of Yahveh?

    Gnosticism 7 is a ‘secret knowing’ designed to entice those into a ‘mystery religion’ where the doing of certain religious things (asceticism, ‘spiritual disciplines, etc.), is ‘the way to contact the god’ or ‘the way to appease the god for sin and guilt’ and or ‘the way to eternal life.’ Kabbalah holds out the same incentive. Kabbalah is nothing more than gnosticism with a Jewish twist to it.

    Notice too, if they were really ‘in touch’ with Yahveh, there would be no need to ‘hasten the advent of Messiah’, as they would declare that Yeshua came and will come again. So who is it that they are ‘in touch’ with?

    ‘Jewish religion is in principle opposed to magic because the ultimate source of everything is the absolutely free and sovereign will of God which can never be coerced. The only proper attitude is therefore prayer…’8

    Sorcery and magic are prohibited by the Bible (Exod. 22:17) but the Talmud, while proscribing the practice as heathenish, admits its efficacy. Members of the Sanhedrin were supposed to have had a thorough knowledge of magic and sorcery, and legends are told of rabbis using ‘white’ magic. Healing by magic is condemned only when specifically pagan or idolatrous. The magic of names (Divine names, Tetragrammaton, names of angels, permutations and combinations of Hebrew letters or scriptural quotations), whether in amulets or spoken formulas, flourished at all times but particularly under the influence of Kabbalah… Some scholars believe that the tephillin and mezuzah originated as amulets.’9

    The amulet is an object ‘worn as a charm against evil, consisting usually of sacred letters or symbols: names of angels or demons are often written in geometric patters, etc. Such charms were common in the ancient Middle East… In the Talmudic and gaonic periods, amulets were widely worn and their use was recognized, though not specifically approved, by rabbis. With the development of the later Kabbalah and its insistence on the efficacy of combinations of letters of the Divine names, the vogue of amulets became universal, and their preparation was regarded as a rabbinic function.’10

    ‘The first signs of Jewish mysticism can be fond in the 1st century while the study of the Dead Sea Scrolls may date knowledge on the subject even earlier.’11 ‘Jewish mysticism’ was picked up in Babylon. It was Babylonian paganism (the basis for gnosticism), that some Jewish men living in Babylon adopted and adapted to the Hebrew Bible (using the Bible for its Names and numbers, etc.), giving Babylonian gnosticism its ‘Jewish clothes.’ Some of these ‘clothes’ came because of the need of the Jewish People:

    ‘The religious syncretism (the mingling and fusion of various oriental religions, mythologies, semi-philosophical notions, etc.) of the period, as well as the messianic speculations encouraged by the national and political disasters in Palestine (sic) fostered a special kind of interest in the Bible which stressed its eschatological and mystical tendencies.’12

    Note well the different religious and secular things that make up Kabbalah. This cannot be of the God of Israel who desires purity and wholeness and whose Word is Truth. Part of the enticement of Kabbalah is the goal of being in the Presence of God. This is a godly desire. But the way they ‘get there’ is not, devising and using ‘secret names’ of God, etc.

    ‘Closed circles from among the pupils of Rabbi Yohanan ben Zakai (1st-2nd century), concerned themselves with the mysteries of Creation and the nature of the Divine Throne or ‘Chariot… These gnosticising types of study were termed Pardes.’13

    ‘Later writings depict seven celestial palaces or worlds populated by angels praising and serving the deity; in the last or seventh palace, the throne of Divine glory rises. Prepared by a rigorous mystical discipline, and sanctified though fasting and religious ecstasy, the adepts or, as they were called ‘viewers of the Merkavah’ (Divine chariot), experienced the ascent of their soul though worlds and heavens, and amid lurking dangers, from palace to palace, until they reached the point where they beheld the radiance of the Divine presence and the divine throne. To the soul which achieves this vision are revealed the secrets of creation, the ways of the angels, and the date of Redemption and of the advent of the Messiah.’14

    The Lord tells us in His Word that there are mysteries that we should not concern ourselves with. Even the traditional Rabbis caution us to not get too involved with four things: the ancient past and the distant future; the things above and the things below. Why not? Because we can only go around and around in circles with them. On the other hand, we have been given what to do by Yahveh and He tells us not to be concerned with the ‘mysteries’ or ‘secrets’ of Creation, His Name, etc:

    ‘The secret things belong to Yahveh our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may observe all the words of this Law.’ (Deut. 29:29)

    It is the Word of God that we are to pursue and meditate on and not to get entangled with the ‘spiritual’ things of darkness that masquerade as Light. As 2nd Cor. 11:14 says, ‘No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of Light.’ We have our ‘contact’ with the Holy One through His Son’s Sacrificial Blood and His Holy Spirit. But in Kabbalah, there is a schematic, philosophical system of ten levels, known as sephirot, that one must climb in order to achieve this revelation.

    The goal for the Kabbalists of Gerona (Spain in the 13th century) was ‘to achieve communion wth God through concentration in prayer and the mediation of the sephirot.’15 The meditation of the sepher yetzirah uses the ‘creative force of the letters of the Hebrew alphabet and propounds the doctrine of ten sephirot though which the world came into being.’16

    ‘The climax of Spanish kabbalism was the appearance of the Zohar,17 connected with Moses de Leon (d. 1305). All later kabbalistic systems derived from the Zohar, which teaches the self-manifestation or revelation of God through the Divine sephirot which He emanated. En-soph, the transcendent God, remains forever beyond the grasp of the human mind which can only comprehend the sephirot.’18

    ‘After death, the human soul is judged and allotted to paradise, hell or transmigration in human or animal form in order to make restitution and be cleansed. The Zohar traces all Kabbalah to the Pentateuch, interpreting every word or letter mystically.’19

    Transmigration is not found in the Word of God but in many false religions of the world whose philosophy states that if you don’t make it the first time around, you get to try it again. It’s also known as reincarnation.

    ‘Man must restore the damage’ (of fallen Creation), ‘by releasing the holy sparks from defilement (Tikkun). The complete restoration will lead to redemption and the advent of the Messiah. Tikkun is accomplished by observance of the commandments, study of the Torah and mystic mediation.20

    The idea that Man can and must ‘restore the damage’ of sin is totally foreign to the Word of God. Only God can redeem Man from his fallen and sinful state and He has done this in Messiah Yeshua. Anyone who thinks that they can help God do this, or do it for God is deceived.

    Alfred Edersheim writes, ‘…neither Eastern mystical Judaism, nor the philosophy of Philo, could admit of any direct contact between God and creation. The Kabbalah solved the difficulty by their Sephiroth, or emanations from God, through which this contact was ultimately brought about, and of which the En-soph, or crown, was the spring’21 (or first of the ten emanations that man could ‘climb’ like a ladder to actually ‘get to God.’)

    This is totally foreign to the Scriptures. Yahveh has made it possible for both Jew and Gentile ‘to make contact’ with Him here on earth, and be received into His Glory on the Day of Judgment, not by any ‘works’ (fasting, etc.), of man, but by His Grace, Mercy and Love.

    Kabbalism was able to meld into main line Orthodox Judaism through Hasidism. At first, in the 18th and 19th centuries, the Orthodox vehemently rejected the Hasidic teaching that anyone could know God (verses the Orthodox tenet that only the learned Rabbis could interpret the Word and give advice and know God.

    ‘…kabbalism was absorbed into the doctrine of Hasidism which popularized the mystic teachings…’

    22 As Hasidism grew, it began to meld with the Orthodox, adopting some of their ways and giving the Orthodox much of its teachings and symbols. Kabbalah means, ‘to hand down’23 or ‘that which has been received’24 from the verb ‘kibel’. There is no doubt as to its ‘ancientness’ and that it has ‘come down’ to us. There is also no question that Kabbalah is an ‘alternative’ form of religion. As such, it runs totally contrary to the Word of God, both written and Alive. It is just another of many satanic ‘voices’ calling for the souls of Jewish men and women. It also has become aceptable within some Messianic Jewish congregations. More subtle than all the beasts of the field is the Serpent.

    ‘Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the Blood of Yeshua, by a new and living way, which He has consecrated for us, through the Veil, that is to say, His flesh and having a High Priest over the House of God, let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure Water. Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for He is faithful that promised), and let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: (Hebrews 10:19-24)

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    Dr. David H. Stern, Jewish New Covenant Commentary (Clarksville, MD: Jewish New Covenant Publications, 1992), p. 766.
    Ibid. Taken from The Messiah Texts by Raphael Patai, p. 68-73.
    J. M. Sinclair, General Consultant, Diana Treffry, Editorial Director, Collins English Dictionary, Fourth Edition (Glasgow, Scotland: HarperCollins Publishers, 1998), p. 1042. Neoplatonism: ‘a philosophical system which was first developed in the 3rd century AD as a synthesis of Platonic, Pythagorean and Aristotelian elements, and which, although originally opposed to Christianity, later incorporated it. It dominated European thought until the 13th century and re-emerged during the Renaissance.
    Geoffrey Wigoder, Editor in Chief, The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, 7th Edition (New York-Oxford: Facts on File, 1990), p. 535.
    Ibid.
    Collins English Dictionary, p. 490. Eclectic: ‘selecting what seems best from various styles, doctrines, ideas, methods, etc.’
    Ibid. p. 656. Gnosticism: ‘…characterized by a belief in gnosis, through which the spiritual element in man could be released from its bondage in matter..’ gnosis: ”supposedly revealed knowledge of various spiritual truths, especially that said to have been posses by ancient Gnostics..’
    The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 619. Listed under ‘magic’.
    Ibid.
    The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 48. Listed under ‘amulets’.
    The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 535.
    The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 535.
    Ibid.
    Ibid.
    Ibid. p. 536.
    Ibid.
    The Zohar is to the kabbalist what the Bible is to a follower of Yeshua.
    The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 536.
    Ibid. p. 537.
    Ibid.
    Alfred Edersheim, The Life and Times of Jesus The Messiah (Peabody, MA: Hendrickson Publishers, 2000), p. 31.
    The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia, p. 537.
    The Life and Times of Jesus The Messiah, p. 31.
    Ibid. p. 71.

    What is the basic definition and concept of Yoga or “Torah Yoga”?

    Yoga: Exercises in physical, mental or spiritual conditioning based on Eastern metaphysical assumptions designed to aid the practitioner in enlightenment or self-realization.

    Yoga goals sometimes include altered states of consciousness or uniting the practitioner with the impersonal pantheistic God (a doctrine identifying the Deity with the universe and its phenomena as well as a belief in and worship of all gods).

    The major types of Yoga include but are not limited to: Karma Yoga (spiritual union through correct conduct), Bhakti Yoga (spiritual union through devotion to a Guru), Juana Yoga (spiritual union through hidden knowledge), Raja Yoga (spiritual union through mental control), Hatha Yoga (spiritual union through body control/meditation), Kundalini Yoga (spiritual union through focusing inner energy) Tantra Yoga (spiritual union through sexual practices), and laya or mantra (the Yoga of sound).

    Although the emphasis may vary, the basic goal in all Yoga is the same: union with ultimate reality, however defined. In Hinduism this would be union of the individual self (atman) with the supreme self (paramatman), itself one with Brahman, the highest impersonal Hindu God; in Buddhism it would be union with Nirvana. In addition, Yoga philosophy is based on the concept of reincarnation and is drawn from the Upanishads and other Hindu scriptures.

    Torah Yoga: A movement nurtured by Bloomfield as well as many others, tragically including Jewish Rabbis, who proclaim that they find deeper understanding of Judaism through the movements of Yoga. Bloomfield has immersed herself in Jewish studies, ultimately moving to Jerusalem in 1984, and one day, as she proclaims something inside of her just clicked. It was then that she realized the wisdom of Jewish studies seemed to emerge in her practice of Yoga.

    Hence, the result was “Torah Yoga”. To Bloomfield Yoga was a supplemental way of understanding Judaism.

    Bloomfield uses the example of ‘Jews leaving Egypt,’ one of the most central teachings in the Torah, as an example of her adaptation to Torah Yoga. In Hebrew, the word ‘Egypt’ has multiple meanings, including constriction and openness. Therefore, on a spiritual level, then, ‘Egypt’ contains the possibility of living in a painful place and an open place. In Yoga, the body is a field of contracted places or open places. As such, by doing Yoga, we are ‘doing Egypt.’

    Bloomfield believes that something is happening in the world today where people are wanting a healing of the mind, spirit and body. To that end, Bloomfield has taught Torah yoga in the United States and Europe, sometimes in Orthodox settings. Bloomfield and Rabbi Klotz are now teaching classes at the new Torah Yoga Institute at Elat Chayyim, a Jewish spiritual retreat center in the Catskill Mountains. The center has offered yoga for 10 years, but the institute represents a concerted effort to attract people, teach them and train the teachers, says executive director Arthur Kurzweil.

    “Wisdom is wisdom. Truth is truth. No tradition has a monopoly on it,” Kurzweil says. “Many spiritual traditions are grounded in the same truth but just have different forms of it.”

    So what are the dangers and problems associated with what many would consider and innocent exercise of the mind, spirit and body?
    The public perception of Yoga as a safe, spiritually neutral practice is false. It is difficult, if not impossible, to separate Yoga practice from Yoga theory. The one who engages in Yoga practices for health purposes may also find himself/herself converted to an occult way of life.

    AUTHORITATIVE YOGA LITERATURE IS REPLETE WITH WARNINGS OF SERIOUS PHYSICAL CONSEQUENCES, MENTAL DERANGEMENT, OR HARMFUL SPIRITUAL EFFECTS.

    Around the world promoters of Yoga make such claims as, “Yoga and Christianity are founded upon a similar base of wisdom”, and attempts are being made to merge yogic concepts and modern medicine.

    To promoters and practitioners the chief value of Yoga is in the prevention of illness, whereas Torah Yoga adds a deeper and more meaningful understanding of Judaism. As such, the Yoga faithful, Torah Yoga and others, believe that chronic diseases such as asthma, backache, arthritis, bronchitis, high blood pressure, obesity, sinusitis, nervous disorders, constipation, dysmenorrhea, dyspepsia, and others are specially amenable to Yoga treatment.

    The deceptive lure of therapeutic Yoga is to maintain healthy minds and healthy bodies, but its practices are being increasingly used to produce cures or alleviations of disease. Yoga works on the premise that most illness is caused by wrong posture, wrong diet and wrong mental attitudes, which imbalances are under the control of the student (patient) himself.

    Yoga is a philosophy embracing every aspect of human life, spiritual, emotional, mental and physical. It did not set out to be a therapy, but is being used as such today. It is a system of self-improvement, or “conscious evolution.”

    People use what they consider to be non-harmful Yoga for a wide variety of purposes such as to reduce nervous tension by learning to relax, to slim and to become more agile mentally and physically. However, without awareness Yoga eventually leads them to meditation, thence to modifications of personal and social behavior. Students attending regular classes seem to become more relaxed, more supple and clearer headed, and usually begin to question the purpose of life in a way they have not before. This holistic approach leads them to what they believe is better health, and the improvement or eradication of psychosomatic ailments.

    Regardless of the school or spiritual tradition, Yoga practice tends to alter a person’s consciousness in an occult direction.

    Even when Yoga is practiced innocently, it can eventually produce dramatic occult transformation. “Personality changes can be brought about in Hatha Yoga by changing the body so that it influences the mind.” Just consider the experience of Christina Grof, who, prior to her experience with Yoga, was an average housewife with normal plans for her life. She took up Yoga entirely without suspicion as a practice that would help her physically during her pregnancy.

    What Christian Grof got was far more than she had bargained for. She found herself transformed from a “conservative suburban housewife” into a New Age leader by means of Hatha Yoga. All she had to do was “join a Hatha Yoga class for exercise” and the logical progression ensued:

    “During the birth of my first child, for which I had prepared with the Lamaze method of breathing (very much like yogic pranayama), this enormous spiritual force was released in me. Of course, I didn’t understand it and was given morphine to stop it as soon as the baby was born…. Then the same thing happened when my second child was born. This all led to more and more experiences. I threw myself into yoga, although still not acknowledging it as a spiritual tool. My meeting with Swami Muktananda really blew the lid off everything. He served as a catalyst to awaken what I had been resisting, which was kundalini (the universal life force).”

    She became a disciple of the Hindu guru Muktananda and then a leader in the New Age Movement with a specific mission: to assist people who were having “spiritual emergencies” from their occult practices and help them to “properly interpret” and successfully integrate these “divine” experiences into their lives.

    Thus, an innocently practiced Yoga-for-exercise routine led to numerous psychic experiences that had the cumulative impact of forever changing Grof’s life.

    Initially as the standard kundalini Yoga symptoms emerged in her life, the prognosis was not good. Grof herself was in the midst of a spiritual emergency and increasingly convinced of her own insanity. “I was convinced I was headed for a life of psychopathology. I was afraid I was going crazy.” Nevertheless, counseling through occult philosophy put matters in their “proper” perspective. Her marriage ended, “which it was destined to do anyway.” And the late popular mythologist Joseph Campbell helped her recognize, “The schizophrenic is drowning in the same waters in which the mystic is swimming with delight.” He also referred her to LSD and consciousness researcher Stan Grof for more counseling.

    The rest is history. The couple were eventually married and today coordinate some 50 SEN (Spiritual Emergency Network) regional information centers around the globe. They also publish a significant amount of literature in the field of occult metaphysics. Their reinterpretation of the pathological phenomena induced by occult practice—as a positive transforming spirituality (a spiritual “emergence”)—not only helps undergird and legitimize the occult, but it also effectively inhibits discernment of the true issues involved.

    Consider just one more example of the potential consequences of Innocent Yoga practice.

    A woman named Carole used Yoga for medical and health reasons. She was very sick and doctors were unable to find the cause of her illness. When she went to a physician-nutritionist recommended by a friend, she found some literature in his office about the Himalayan Institute, of which the doctor was a staff member. The institute was founded by Indian Swami Rama, one of the most scientifically studied of the gurus, beginning with famous biofeedback researcher and spiritist Dr. Elmer Green. Carole decided to attend the institute, where she began lessons in Hatha Yoga. Eventually, she was initiated and received her mantra (word of occult power) from Swami Rama. As he laid his hands upon her head, the typical transfer of “occult energy” began (termed shaktipat diksha). Carole was in heaven:

    “Currents of electrical energy began to permeate my head and went down into my body…. It was as if a spell had come over me, the bliss that I felt was as if I had been touched by God. The power that had come from his hand, and simply being in his presence, drew me to him irresistibly.”

    The night after receiving her mantra, Carole was visited by a spirit being who claimed to be the spirit of Swami Rama himself. Although no one had ever mentioned the spirit world in her church (they did not believe in such things), Carole felt that this was the means of directly communicating with God. She experienced wonderful powerful forces and energies, while thoughts entered her mind with a magnetic-like force:

    “Electrical currents were pulsating around my body and then moved into my hand, the currents were shaking my hand and strong, almost entrancing thoughts were impressed into my mind, ‘Meditate, meditate. I want to speak with you.’ It was a miracle. I was communicating with the spirit world. I had found God. Sitting in the darkness of my living room I began to repeat my mantra. A presence seemed to fill the room. I began to see visions of being one with the universe and the magnetic thoughts were now leaving and I was hearing a voice, which identified itself as Swami Rama, saying he was communicating with me through astral travel.

    Within one week, after meditating many hours each day and still in constant communication with this spirit, forces began to come upon me and gave me powers to do yoga postures; I was floating through them, the forces giving me added breath even… postures that before would be very painful to do.”

    However, after two weeks of daily Yoga meditation, Carole became engulfed in a nightmare of utter dread and terror. Voices that once claimed they were angelic turned threatening, even demonic. She was brutally assaulted, both physically and spiritually by spirits. During meditation, in the midst of being violently shaken, she could sense that the same energy received at initiation, energy which was now felt to be personal, was attempting to remove her life-essence from her physical body—in her words, “to literally pull the life from my shell of a body.” She sensed an overwhelming and implacable hatred directed toward her from this “energy,” as if “monstrosities of another world were trying to take my very soul from me, inflicting pain beyond endurance, ripping and tearing into the very depths of my being.”

    The intermittent suffocation and torment seemed interminable; her fears increased as she realized there was no one to help her. Finally, the attack subsided. But it was merely the first of many.

    It seems that nothing could stop the assaults. Her agonized pleas to the spirits were ignored; her husband was powerless. Her father wanted her to see a psychiatrist; others also doubted her sanity. In desperation, her mother contacted psychic friends from a local church of the Unity School of Christianity. They laid hands on Carole and commanded that “the divinity within” deliver her, but to no avail.

    Dr. C. Norman Shealy, M.D., Ph.D., now entered the picture. He is a noted neurosurgeon, a former professor at Harvard University, past president of the American Holistic Medical Association, and the author of Occult Medicine Can Save Your Life. Dr. Shealy also works in conjunction with psychics and spiritists such as Caroline Myss. When Dr. Shealy was unable to help, he referred Carole to Dr. Robert Leichtman, M.D., a spiritist who is coauthor of several dozen books received by revelation from the spirits.

    Leichtman admitted that Carole’s situation was not uncommon among followers of Eastern gurus. He even told her some have died as a result of similar psychic attacks. But he, too, was unable to help. His instructions, such as visualizing herself in the white “Christ light” of protection, were useless. By this time, Carole was near the end.

    “I had to endure the torture, unable to free myself. To those around me I was insane. No one believed me and no one could free me. The hopelessness I felt was unbearable. No one believed me except the psychics… and they could do nothing.

    I was defenseless against these never-ending attacks… hundreds of presences filling my room, which itself would be filled with thick, ice cold air, my body drenched with perspiration as my whole being fought against them.

    After spending several weeks at my parents’ we decided perhaps I could try returning home. But that night the spirits started to exert their full power.

    First, against my skull. I felt as if they were trying to crack it open, like the air was being cut off to my brain. Incredible pressure was exerted upon my back and chest, pulling with a wrench-like grip. It felt like they were trying to pull my shoulder from its socket, pressing on my eyes trying to blind me, pushing on my throat trying to choke me. Filled with fear and exhaustion, on the brink of death I screamed to my husband, ‘I’m dying; I can’t take it anymore. Get me to the hospital.’

    I was taken to the hospital where I laid like a scared dog cowering on a cart. I could hardly speak but at least the spirits were gone—temporarily…. The doctor on duty recommended a psychiatrist who saw me the next morning. He told me I was covering up some deep problems with this ‘talk of evil spirits.’ ‘There is no such thing as the devil,’ he said coldly.”

    Carole admitted herself to the hospital, but once more no one could help. The attacks finally subsided and she was released. Upon returning home, the attacks began again. More unimaginable torment. Although she was terrified of dying, death was now her desire. Wishing to take her life but too fearful of dying, she readmitted herself to the hospital. Once again, she was placed in locked ward. She felt that here she would die, alone and in torment

    But today, Carole is alive and well. Even her psychiatrist is amazed at the miraculous transformation. She is now in perfect health, both mentally and physically.

    How did Carole get free? No one had been able to help her. Today, Carole attributes both her health and her life to a living Jesus Christ who delivered her from a desperate plight. Reflecting back on her predicament, she is awed that such terrible destruction could be purchased at the price of a simple, supposedly harmless form of Yoga meditation.

    Events like these reveal that there is more to Yoga than meets the eye. Whether Yoga can trigger some unknown psychospiritual, physiological response, or whether changes are produced spiritistically, or both, few can deny Yoga is a powerful spiritual discipline that has been used for millennia to secure occult, pagan goals.

    Virtually all standard Yoga texts acknowledge that Yoga practice develops psychic powers and other occult abilities.

    All this is why the Yoga scholar and Sanskrit authority Rammurti Mishra can interpret Yoga theory as laying the foundation for occultism. “In conclusion, it may be said that behind every psychic investigation, behind mysticism, occultism, etc., knowingly or unknowingly, the Yoga system is present.” In his article “Kundalini and the Occult,” occult authority John White observes that the essence of occultism is the attempt to gain “higher” knowledge and power or control of the forces of nature, especially the “life energy” (prana) which underlies the basis of true magic and psychic phenomena. “In its highest form, occult science merges indistinguishably with true mysticism…. [M]ysticism and genuine occultism are closely allied…. The heart of genuine occult practices appear to be synonymous with aspects of the [yogic] kundalini concept….” Yoga authority Sir John Woodroffe (Arthur Avalon), author of a standard text on kundalini Yoga, The Serpent Power, agrees, and he supplies many additional reasons why Yoga and occult magic go hand in hand. Until his death, perhaps the leading authority on shamanism and comparative religion was Mircea Eliade. Note his observations of the similarities between yoga and witchcraft: “All features associated with European witches are claimed also by Indo-Tibetan yogis and magicians.” Along with a range of occult powers common to both, some yogis:

    “… boast that they break all the religious taboos and social rules: that they practice human sacrifice, cannibalism, and all manner of orgies, including incestuous intercourse, and that they eat excrement, nauseating animals, and devour human corpses. In other words, they proudly claim all the crimes and horrible ceremonies cited ad nauseam in the Western European witch trials.”

    Because Yoga is an occult system, the physical, mental, and spiritual dangers that accompany occult practices are also found in Yoga. Thus, even standard Yoga books warn of the serious dangers arising from supposedly “wrong” Yoga practice. But we think such hazards are conceded because Yoga is an occult practice, not because its techniques are allegedly done incorrectly.

    We will conclude by referring all readers to the above Word of God and simply close by saying to those who would brave the practice Kabbalah or Torah Yoga DANGER! DANGER! DANGER!

    Comment by UAREEXPOSED — October 5, 2010 @ 2:59 pm

  328. How old are are u Aaron ??? 3 or 4???
    unbiased, u, 2 or 3 ???
    Im 57 i have many miles to go !!! get it !!!!
    what child would ???
    please,, no name calling.. boys and girls !!!!

    Comment by UAREEXPOSED — October 5, 2010 @ 3:06 pm

  329. What a lot of bile. Must’ve hit a nerve.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — October 5, 2010 @ 3:07 pm

  330. I know, lets all talk about the weather. well, it was cold overnite here in texas…chance of rain… Lets start a thread on the weather ????
    Luv to hear ur cooments.. tell what it done in UR town overnite.

    Comment by WeathermanNick — October 5, 2010 @ 3:22 pm

  331. U know me, my plane is leaving, ILL be back !!!!!!

    Comment by WeathermanNick — October 5, 2010 @ 3:25 pm

  332. ole hell, forgot my wallet !!!1

    Comment by WeathermanNick — October 5, 2010 @ 3:27 pm

  333. Yeah, right, I’m making small talk is all. Bullshit.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — October 5, 2010 @ 8:33 pm

  334. http://torturedinamerica.org/

    Comment by anon — October 6, 2010 @ 4:28 am

  335. where is all the rot today ???
    everthing a freemason looks at, thinks about, touches, rots !!!
    They are the rot of the earth !!dont u agree aaron,unbiased,ti,danny j,targ ???

    Filed under: CIA, Colorado, Cults, Firefighters, Masons, New World Order, Political activism, San Diego, Science Fiction, Secret Police, Secret weapons, Skull and Bones, UFOs, chemical weapons, civil liberties, conspiracy theory, electronic harassment, gang stalking, gang stalking rehabs, gang stalking zionism, indy media, jihadists, mental health, psychosis, ray duquenne, social psychology, spy technology — gems news & views @ 5:47 pm

    Comment by oldwordbeliever — October 9, 2010 @ 5:23 pm

  336. hey, old word !!!!
    where the hell u been ?? you have been gone for 4 yrs.
    ive been carrying out oaths of the breathen. ropes,the whole works. the grove is got it going old !!!
    cis, bush was there,a rothschild,2 rockefellas. had a ritual, blood, grusome… what yo up too ??

    Comment by BBKONGO — October 9, 2010 @ 5:34 pm

  337. I knowed flies are attacted to cow shit,
    oh, hell, here they come !!!!

    Comment by BBKONGO — October 9, 2010 @ 5:55 pm

  338. THE VERY SOVEREIGN: I must announce to you that the man may be someone that you know. Possibly even a friend of yours, with whom you may have very strong ties. In that case you must suppress all your fellow-feelings, to only keep the feelings of revenge. Thus, this is a very good chance to show your courage and to prove your diligence, and this is the only possibility to access your desired Degree.

    a low life breathen MUST create revenge BEFORE he can enter the degree. MUST !!!!!, so there you go, We are the must.. There are no tratiors in the lodges, we are the traitors, they create for there breathen, GET IT !!!!
    The Freemasons are so out of control, they invent traitors, such as the victims you will learn of in the future. They use victims as there intiation “goats”. I can prove.Its a continuous cycle for there breathen.The “bullying” on the streets.. That is what it is Bullying, but at a larger and somewhat different approach. for i thing, its adults for the most part, old young, college terds,old farts..dirty cops,
    dirty fireman,…dirty ccity,county,state and federal workers..

    Comment by 9th Degree bullshit — October 10, 2010 @ 4:10 pm

  339. in north hollywood ca lankersham bl 7 guys use stalking torcher one had blood in hi mouth from bitting me knock out i seen hit andrew and a sober living living on velarwo bl supulveda van nuyes steve sead he was gowing to fuck me up im truing to sue him he mite know karaty he looks like the guy on tv in japan mtv must of got him after me well be for it was open i sat on the side of the yad ski so ther all gowing to lit because i stop taking the med that did it cocoon 8 years ago every since i left and seen andrew with a knife in the kitten with a red hear lady they all open a sober living one hit me in the neck several times it on tape steve still fooled me i left 9years ago anderw whent 4 places one made any one harass me for asking to plug in a tape book lbcongress a guy in cult maneger bored and cares 3 men on street ask me to leave the back of store on hollywood bl and new hamster had knife western man had gun behind kfc he try to harass me with my head phone on i call 911 on cell this man stiff is in a sober living in van news supplied velapo then the vido i was knock out in cheer on riverton magnolia north holly ca matthuw was slapping me in the face jonathin i push the other i hit the red head or anderw when i sat in the back years of that place i thout was abandoned i seen one with a bucker knife so they never stop following me i left to san francico slidel valley mission hills nh bakersfild grenade hills bakers feld andrew mohomad ali and hillvew staff helps once mike strong and jordan knocked me out drunk and sead im gowing to put you throu corruption so that happen mycological abuse illegal pycotarapy a vido i seen sara ramose used a bat wile i was ski laced with strict this i stope tacking 9 year ago ther all still doing the sam thing 14 year 7 torched me one in hillvewe wite guy robort rick i for gotthe men know i remember they where stoping me because he bit my goring blood was in his mouth staff wont do any thing they shold be sewd they lit and rip me off the tapep say the guy duper is looking at airplane s and pretens how to buy stuff i stoped 6 years ago they got payed to 50-300$they all did it because they did not want me to have a gierfrend they rip off set up illegally senate set up they try it with garden some undercover i seen vido of staff put a pint brush in my eye filled with higean supply in the regally manor hit the last time 1000 times socks and staff strangled me until i passed out like a killer use water to dround me pd in vido mite of they did it because they did not want me to have i girl frend i e meld you before hill vewey mental pocoma van nuts bl and last descanso bl la ca they wold of rip me off put me away i was not doing any thing they used kkk wite supremacy gay pride rasist gang stalking home envying illegal pycotarapy gane rapping men discremanaion corruption ill e mail the place that handels the rest

    Comment by dupreturner — October 11, 2010 @ 2:29 am

  340. Crackpot conspiracy theorists are do-nothings and a force for inaction at best, dismissing the importance of all other problems except for those that they link to whatever mythical pervasive conspiracy, demonizing all skeptical requests for evidence, and likewise adamantly rejecting any action agenda beyond consciousness raising. Or else at worst, crackpot conspiracy theorists are hate criminals and propagandists. But what do we mean by conspiracy theory? And as an article of critical preference, how exactly are crackpot conspiracy theories so bereft of all credibility? Indeed, if three people rob a gas station together, don’t we assume that they planned it together, that they conspired? Or must we suppose that they all converged simultaneously, masked and guns in hand, by sheer coincidence, and only then decided that they might as well collaborate? Of course not. Rather, crackpot paranoid conspiracy theories strain credibility and credulity in their tendencies to posit impractically pervasive and deep secrecy together with consummate competence in the exercise of power. But exploitation and abuse as an open secret in any given culture, is another matter entirely. Examples include racism, organized crime and, yes: bullying including gang stalking. Alas, gang stalking is really not all that complicated. Vigilantism is little secret either. Denials aside, nor is bullying. -All unlike the explanatorily inelegant mythic tendrils of deep Byzantine conspiracies.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — October 11, 2010 @ 8:19 pm

  341. From another blog…

    “bonnarj7

    bonnarj7 (1 month ago)

    Good video, but you are eventually going to find out that these domestic spies, or “citizen police”, are actually the ones being catalogued. We are aware of the situation. There is a fascist element that needs to be rooted out of our society. What’s going on here is a massive test. You either pass or fail the test. You either love freedom or you hate it. You either love your neighbor, or you hate your neighbor. What these individuals are going to find out is that the joke was on them, trust me. But how would we know who these people are, unless we give them a chance to identify themselves??? Get it? So don’t be fearful, we know what we are doing. This has been all thought out.”

    Comment by Name (required) — October 21, 2010 @ 5:30 am

  342. Hey Arron, this *is* the nerve that was hit. Hope it doesn’t hit you or any other US citizen ever again, but I would not count on it.

    2002-0233 02/19/2002 BIBLIOGRAPHIC Salem, Harry ARMY Client is searching for Provided client with results of toxicolgical information on CBIAC and Toxline database Tacrine, an anti- searches.

    cholinesterase inhibitor from the perspective of its potential use a non-lethal
    weapon.

    Sunshine Report – “Another document (available here) reveals the interest of a senior US Army toxicologist in tacrine, a drug used to treat Alzheimer’s Disease. The Army is not interested in the drug, however, for helping disease victims. Rather, it is assessing use of tacrine as a weapon. In February 2002, at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland, the toxicologist ordered a literature review on its potential for weaponization. Chemically, tacrine is a acetylcholinesterase inhibitor, a first cousin of the nerve gases sarin, tabun, and VX (among others).

    Comment by notbiased — October 22, 2010 @ 4:03 am

  343. Huh?___________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — October 22, 2010 @ 7:21 am

  344. Huh?…

    Yeah right dude, keep on spewing that, it’ll do you good in a parallel universe.

    Comment by Name(required) — October 24, 2010 @ 5:16 am

  345. Sorry, but I’ve simply lost all interest: You’ve closed all discussion unless one agrees with you completely and uncritically. You’ve demonized all natural skepticism. I’d say you already abide in a parallel world all your own. The ball remains in your court.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — October 24, 2010 @ 7:17 am

  346. I too have had to endure organized, criminal-gang, stalking, but in very real tangible ways, not with electronics that I know of. These stalking events were carried out by real people, on the spot, and it was oh so very very obvious, but not so to anyone just happening by at any one event. It was identifiable by a series of events which could not possibly, by any chance or odds, have been mere happenstance or coincidence. I contacted lawyers on the internet, but got no responses. The US itself, with many more prisoners than any other first-world country, is itself a criminal enterprise. There is no legal structure to deal with these phenomena, and when the law refuses to act, they are complicit and in collusion.

    I had gotten detailed information about the attacks of 9-11 in 1997, and I told about 130 people about those attacks for four years, but mostly to be verbally attacked, ignored, or mocked. After the attacks I told people I had known they were going to happen, and without any consideration whatsoever for the facts I was labled delusional and worse.

    The stalking started long before 9-11-01, but certain aspects of it have greatly intensified since then, and as far as I am concerned, if they are allowed to do that to me freely, 9-11 was what this country had coming.

    Comment by John — October 25, 2010 @ 11:18 am

  347. to make people commit succide,to invade peoples minds to break them,to control them, keep secret what they do
    to test and practice there harrassing techniques,and ways to rat n roll or fish info’for no other use then to use against you for control,or use you as a puppet,or break you
    its all fun and games till someone losses an eye
    concerntration and focus are key to in real life
    to become knowledgable and experienced at a skill you reqiure

    then say dont do this or get a life or get out while you can

    this bullshit once they get into your head they will not let you go

    if you stand alone against them it is going to make you crazy ,insane if you dnt learn what to do defend oneself qiuck enough
    dont get angry(its what they want, it makes you stupid your brain looses bloodand it goes into your bones to prepare violent situation, hate solves nothing in the end.
    defence: there are 3 main physogical paths of attack: DOUGHT WORRY AND FEAR
    the devils plays(1) I know the main one (dont)ever(fear)(death),dont fear your actions of past mistakes what matters is we become better people then what we were.(2)(worring) you must get stern fealings
    never give into hijackers demands no matter what they say
    (3) DOUGHT
    Im still working on this myself,less insecure about yourself figure out your short commings and learn meditation, doing hobbies,arts,crafts learning to play music something that interest you were you can short things in your mind while enjoying,dont forget there listning for what you need hate to use this against you
    so use your own judgment >you cant let them push you around
    rember what doesnt kill you makes you stronger
    be like the new tree sappling learn to bend with the wind

    keeping your friends close but your enemies closer.
    there 2 types of people unselfish and selfish
    good reads are taoist ,buddismn and jesus type of beliefs.
    you cant really move away to someplace were they dont use electromagnetic surrvailence systems sooner then later itll be sprouting everywere with communication sattleliets and electromagnectic wireless communication theres no were to be free of them or to have your own freedom of ways to do what you believe in
    ive been through pretty much every tatic the stalking, harrassing, mind washing , and low end plays these so called wanna be groups of society can use on you, of course there could be a banna peal around the next corner , I do fall to forgetfullness also my ego ,and pride, If stay true to lifes learnings —- greater I have consciouness awareness
    there main tatics are physcoligcal the only real power they posses is the artifical electromagentic radio waves that they use to invade your mind , these waves are nataurly produced on earth ,but these artifical waves are too strong and growing everywere, no natural evolution fast of a change , this and our planets climate being changed ,global warming from the artifical radiation waves heating the ions in the air with co2 emmissions acting like a blanket in the upper atmoshepere not letting the extra heat to exscape. the tampering of natural evolution, or just letting it slide to get the resources up north
    be true thy own self be fore true to others
    great people think of ideas
    average people think of things
    small minded people talk aout other people
    there is no Devil its just mankind power drunk
    when absolute power corrupts it corrupts absolutly
    the belief system that corrupt now is from the 1600 century from the beggining of the industrial age were you basically plunder all till nothings left and then move onto another area
    a industrial warlike mindset , totally selfish , and narrow minded thinking
    thats in need of change for these things to get better.
    one must conquer ourselves in our short commings and learn how to get along with mankind
    then we have strength in numbers
    in peace , unselfishness ,and empathy
    A better rightious belief makes a life style for all things material and spiritual to succedd

    one is all , all is one

    Comment by the seminal — November 7, 2010 @ 3:55 pm

  348. I got mob stalked and gangstalked by the Chicago MOB and the Chicago Police department puppets, their all the same shit any way criminals, I got fired because of it. I want the whole world to know that the Chicago police are working for their MOB friends I can prove it 100%.

    Im not afriad of any of these people because I know I can send them to the hospital any time I want. This kinda crap would work on some weak people but their messing with wrong guy here, What you people should do is carry around a mini cam and catch the stalkers faces and license plates and you can show the evidence to your police department but if you live in Chicago forget it their the ones that are committing these crimes.

    http://www.freewebs.com/jwnapalawsuit/ This guy sued the government because they were harassing, stalking and using microwave weopons on him. Hes a genius.

    Comment by frank — November 16, 2010 @ 6:41 am

  349. living rooms should be decorated with style that is why i always get some living room decoration idea on the internet .*-

    Comment by LCD Screen Cleaner — November 16, 2010 @ 10:26 pm

  350. This is what the crooked government are doing and their trying frame me and others for their MOB friends in Chicago including a 10 year convict male prostitute named Leonard Cox, Crooked cops will not tell anybody about him because they dont want to look like shit and nobody is going to believe a lowlife cracked male prostitute. Watch out for the lowest life in history Chicago MOB COPS.

    Comment by frank — November 16, 2010 @ 11:50 pm

  351. They, the freemasons are out to do whatever damage they can. They dont know u are going crazy. they cant read ur mind.Its whatever happens. They probably wish a victim would go nuts, but they themselves are the nuts and have crossed the sane line to insanity.
    birds of feather flock together, they wish us to join them , as “nuts”.All loose cannons and are now coming to past, cops wreaking there cars and dieing, shooting ea. other.where i live masonic cops son shot 5 times, killed, a masonic cop….was asked why, he did not know why ???…
    lately wheere i live, city marshall wreaks and kills himself, sheerif, does the same, tx. state trooper runs of of road causes a death of innocent.
    fireman jumps 3 stories to death, no there was not a fire, he thought it was on fire .. bizarre huh !!!!!????

    Its happening in your town too !!!

    Comment by badwentgood — December 2, 2010 @ 3:38 pm

  352. Repost, for the truth.

    September 18, 2010 at 6:55 am

    Spew all you want, but facts are facts.

    Not many “real victims” remain because of so-called nonlethal *nerve agents* that are being used covertly.

    Tacrine anyone?

    2002-0233 02/19/2002 BIBLIOGRAPHIC Salem, Harry ARMY Client is searching for Provided client with results of
    toxicolgical information on CBIAC and Toxline database
    Tacrine, an anti- searches.
    cholinesterase inhibitor from
    the perspective of its
    potential use a non-lethal
    weapon.

    Sunshine Report – “Another document (available here) reveals the interest of a senior US Army toxicologist in tacrine, a drug used to treat Alzheimer’s Disease. The Army is not interested in the drug, however, for helping disease victims. Rather, it is assessing use of tacrine as a weapon. In February 2002, at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland, the toxicologist ordered a literature review on its potential for weaponization. Chemically, tacrine is a acetylcholinesterase inhibitor, a first cousin of the nerve gases sarin, tabun, and VX (among others).

    Comment by notbiased — September 18, 2010 @ 6:44 am

    Comment by real@mymail.com — December 20, 2010 @ 6:02 am

  353. TYPICAL FREEMASONS:

    Sisters win sex lawsuit vs. dad $2.3 million given for years of abuse

    By Howard Prankratz

    Denver Post Legal Affairs Writer

    Two daughters of former state and federal law enforcement official Edward Rodgers were awarded $2.319,400 yesterday, after a Denver judge and jury found that the women suffered years of abuse at the hands of their father.

    The award to Sharon Simone, 45, and Susan Hammond, 44, followed testimony of Rodgers’ four daughters in person or through depositions, describing repeated physical abuse and sexual assaults by their father from 1944 through 1965.

    Rodgers, 72, who became a child abuse expert after retiring from the FBI and joining the colorado Springs DA’s office, failed to appear for the trial. But in a deposition taken in March, Rodgers denied ever hitting or sexually abusing his children.

    He admitted that he thought of himself as a “domineering s.o.b. who demanded strict responses from my children, strict obedience.” But it never approached child abuse, Rodgers said. “Did I make mistakes? Damn right I did, just like any other father or mother…”

    Thomas Gresham, Rodger’s former attorney, withdrew from the case recently after being unable to locate his client. Rodgers recently contacted one of his sons from a Texas town along the Mexican border. Gresham said his last contact with Rodgers was on April 24.

    The sisters reacted quietly to the verdict, and with relief that their stories of abuse had finally been told.

    “I feel really good that I’ve gone public with this,”Hammond said. “I am a victim, the shame isn’t mine, the horror happened to me. I’m not bad.

    “My father did shameful and horrible things to me and my brothers and sisters. I don’t believe he is a shameful and horrible man, but he has to be held accountable,” Hammond added.

    The lawsuit deeply divided the Rodgers family, with Rodgers’ three sons questioning their sister’s motives.

    Immediately after the verdict, son Steve Rodgers, 37, reacted angrily, yelling at his sisters in the courtroom.

    Later, Rodgers said he loves his father and stands by him. He said his sisters had told him their father had to be exposed the way Nazi war criminals have been exposed.

    “In a way I’m angry with my father for not being here. But I’m sympathetic because he would have walked into a gross crucifixion,” Rodgers said.

    Steve Rodgers never denied that he and his siblings were physically abused, but disputed that his father molested his sisters.

    Before the jury’s award, Denver District Judge William Meyer found that Rodger’s conduct toward Simone and Hammond was negligent and “outrageous.”

    Despite the length of time since the abuse, the jury determined the sisters could legally bring the suit. The statute of limitations for a civil suit is two years, but jurors determined that the sisters became aware of he nature and extent of their injury only within the last two years, during therapy.

    The jury then determined the damages, finding $1,240,000 for Simone and 1,079,000 for Hammond.

    The sisters had alleged in their suit filed last July that Rodgers subjected his seven children to a “pattern of emotional, physical, sexual and incestual abuse.”

    As a result of the abuse, the women claimed their emotional lives had been left in a shambles, requiring extensive therapy for both and repeated hospitalizations of Hammond, who was acutely suicidal. Simone developed obsessive behavior and became so unable to function she resigned a position with a Boston-based college.

    Despite the judgment yesterday, Rodgers cannot be criminally charged. the statue of limitations in Colorado for sexual assault on children is 10 years.

    Rodgers, who worked for the FBI for 27 years, much of it in Denver, became chief investigator for the district attorney’s office in Colorado Sp;rings. during his employment at the DA’s office from 1967 until 1983, he became a well-known figure in Colorado Springs, and lectured and wrote about child abuse both locally and nationwide.

    He wrote a manual called ” A Compendium — Child Abuse by the National College of District Attorney’s,” and helped put together manuals on child abuse for the New York state police and a national child abuse cente
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    NEW HAVEN, Conn. (AP) _ A retired FBI agent was indicted Friday on federal child sex charges dating back more than a decade when he was a Boy Scout leader.

    William Hutton, 63, of Killingworth, was arrested Friday. The federal grand jury indictment offers few details about the case but accuses Hutton of enticing a member of his Scout troop to Maine for the purpose of sexual activity in 1994 and 1995.

    “It’s obviously devastating. He was an FBI agent in this district and was reputed in this district,” defense attorney Hugh Keefe said. “The people who worked with him in the U.S. attorney’s office and FBI respected him.”

    Keefe said the investigation has been going on for years. He would not discuss the details of the case or how the allegations surfaced.

    Investigators asked anyone who knows anything about the case to call the FBI. U.S. Attorney Kevin O’Connor said that’s standard practice whenever there might be more victims.

    “In any case that’s a concern,” O’Connor said. “Whether that’s the situation here I can’t say.”

    If convicted on all four charges, Hutton faces up to 30 years in prison and up to $250,000 in fines.

    Hutton was released on a $200,00 bond. He may not own any firearms or have any unsupervised contact with children. He was also ordered to stay away from playgrounds, schools, arcades or anywhere children congregate.

    Comment by neverwasbad — December 20, 2010 @ 11:40 am

  354. By JOHN SOLOMON

    Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON (AP) – The former chief internal watchdog at the FBI has pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting a 6-year-old girl and has admitted he had a history of molesting other children before he joined the bureau for what became a two-decade career.

    John H. Conditt Jr., 53, who retired in 2001, was sentenced last week to 12 years in prison in Tarrant County court in Fort Worth, Texas, after he admitted he molested the daughter of two FBI agents after he retired. He acknowledged molesting at least two other girls before he began his law enforcement career, his lawyer said.
    *********Monday August 8, 2005 Longtime FBI agent sentenced to prison on child porn count

    By JOHN MILLER

    Associated Press Writer

    BOISE, Idaho (AP) A longtime FBI agent who helped arrest mountain-man Claude Dallas and was involved in a deadly 1984 siege involving white supremacists in Washington state is going to prison for 12 months after pleading guilty to possession of child pornography.

    William Buie, 64, of Boise, most recently worked as an investigator for the Idaho attorney general’s office.

    He was sentenced Monday in U.S. District Court to a year in prison on one count of possession of sexually exploitative materials involving minors. He had pleaded guilty in March.*******************************************************************************************
    **************************************************************
    By J.J. STAMBAUGH, stambaugh@knews.com
    April 28, 2006

    A former FBI agent who was the scourge of corrupt sheriffs and drug kingpins across East Tennessee for more than a decade was indicted Wednesday for allegedly having an affair with a Korean brothel manager in Myrtle Beach, S.C., and concealing the relationship from his superiors.

    Clyde William Merryman, 60, was issued a summons to appear in court May 5 after a federal grand jury in Florence, S.C., returned a seven-count indictment charging him with obstruction of justice, mail fraud, concealing a material fact, and falsifying records, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Charlotte, N.C., which is prosecuting the case.
    *****8*888************************

    FBI stumbled on Trilogy cost oversight: GAO

    By Alice Lipowicz
    Staff Writer

    The FBI paid at least $10.1 million in questionable contractor costs related to its controversial Trilogy IT modernization program, according to a new report from the Government Accountability Office.

    For example, in a single invoice for March 2002 from contractor DynCorp, which is now part of Computer Services Corp., the FBI was billed $1.9 million for “other direct costs” with no explanation.

    “No additional information was provided on the invoice to explain what made up these costs,” the GAO report said.
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    1 Mar 2002 In a case of mistaken identity, FBI agent Christopher Braga shoots unarmed 20-year-old Eagle Scout Joseph Charles Schultz in the face during a traffic stop in Pasadena, Maryland

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    16 Sep 2002 Former FBI agent John Harrison shoots himself and two coworkers in his office at the Empire Blue Cross and Blue Shield insurance building in New York.

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    17 Jun 2003 Former FBI metallurgist Kathleen Lundy pleads guilty to falsifying evidence for a Kentucky murder trial.
    17 Jul 2003 FBI translator Mario Castillo is arrested for making false statements, illegally accessing Bureau computer files, and personally profiting from the contents
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    13 Nov 2003 Justice Department inspector general Glenn Fine releases a report outlining instances of FBI managers perpetrating inappropriate sexual behavior and questionable racial and sexual comments, who generally received light reprimands.
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    12 Feb 2004 In a Ft. Worth, Texas courtroom, retired FBI agent John H. Conditt, Jr. receives 12 years for molesting a 6-year-old girl at least 10 times in 2002.
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    18 Feb 2004 Senator Charles Grassley releases a four-year-old report revealing that one in 1,000 FBI agents between 1986 and 1999 were fired for misconduct.
    18 May 2004 In Washington, DC, former FBI crime lab scientist Jacqueline A. Blake pleads guilty to making false statements. In doing so, Blake admits having falsified more than a hundred reports regarding her DNA tests over a three-year period.
    24 May 2004 Portland, Washington SAIC Robert Jordan apologizes for having detained Muslim attorney Brandon Mayfield for two weeks under the 1984 Material Witness Act, based on a fingerprint mismatch. “The FBI regrets the hardships that this has placed on Mr. Mayfield and his family.”
    2 Jul 2004 Former FBI agent Eugene Harding pleads guilty to receiving stolen personal data from Social Security and IRS computer databases. Harding had been employed as a security consultant to some Las Vegas hotel resorts at the time.
    11 Aug 2004 Former FBI employee Rosana Frederick is arrested in Brooklyn for allegedly scamming 11 immigrants out of $43,500. Frederick stands accused of offering to obtain green cards and U.S. citizenship for the alleged victims. Previously, Frederick had been convicted of extorting money from immigrants in December 1992, for which she received 18 months in prison.

    Comment by neverwasbad — December 20, 2010 @ 11:45 am

  355. FREEMASONS OWN the mafia,FBI,CIA….

    Fine LAWMEN !!!

    Flemmi details why victims had to go
    By Laurel J. Sweet
    Wednesday, June 7, 2006

    In the same blase tone he used to describe how lovers and rats were routinely butchered and buried, gangster Stephen Flemmi claimed yesterday that the more blood he spilled with his partner in crime James “Whitey” Bulger, the bigger their FBI fan club.
    Former Boston FBI supervisor James Ring “was aware of what we were doing. He condoned it,” Flemmi, 72, testified in federal court, explaining how Ring fawned over the two crime bosses, who also were the agency’s prized informants.
    Ring’s partner, John Morris, “treated us like we were FBI agents,” the man nicknamed “The Rifleman” added.
    As for the crime duo’s longtime handler, John Connolly – the only G-man convicted of blurring the lines with Bulger, Flemmi and the rest of the Winter Hill Gang – he “didn’t treat me like a criminal,” Flemmi boasted. “It’s like we were equals.”
    Between 1981 and 1990, Flemmi said Ring, Morris, Connolly and other Boston agents lapped up cash bonuses, jewelry, jukeboxes and cases of wine purchased from the kitty the gangsters kept for that purpose, dubbed “the X fund.”
    The gifts, Flemmi explained, bought him and Bulger, 76, on the lam for 11 years now, “protection” from those sworn to sweep their ilk off the streets.
    Instead, Flemmi said, murder indictments vanished and those trying to tell authorities what was going on were whacked. And all Flemmi and Bulger had to do in return was help the FBI bring down their North End competitors, the Sicilian Mafia.
    “It was a quid-pro-quo situation,” Flemmi said.
    Flemmi was the first witness to be called in a $50 million wron ul death suit brought against the federal government by a Quincy mother whose son, John McIntyre, was tortured to death by Bulger and The Rifleman in 1984 for telling the FBI they were trying to smuggle guns to Ireland.
    Yesterday, Emily McIntyre’s attorney, William Christie, his voice spiced with contempt, took Flemmi on a lurid trip down memory lane to explain why certain people were executed, including:
    # Richard Castucci, an FBI informant Connolly warned Bulger had given up the hiding place of two top Winter Hill members. “It was kind of a revenge thing,” Flemmi said.

    # Roger Wheeler, the Tulsa, Okla., owner of World Jai Alai who refused to sell his company to a Winter Hill associate. “He was a difficult person to deal with,” Flemmi said.

    # Debra Davis, Flemmi’s longtime girlfriend, who was strangled by Bulger. She knew too much about their intimate arrangement with the FBI.

    # Brian Halloran, an informant who could implicate Bulger in Wheeler’s slaying. After Halloran’s murder, Flemmi testified, Connolly called Bulger and offered to provide him with an alibi.

    # Arthur “Bucky” Barrett, a bank robber. Bulger shot Barrett in the back of the head. “Bulger knew he had a lot of money,” Flemmi said, “and he wanted some of it.”

    # Deborah Hussey, the teenage daughter of one of Flemmi’s girlfriends, who he had been sexually abusing. Bulger choked Hussey with a rope after she kept dropping his and Flemmi’s names to open doors around town.
    “Bulger was a driving force in that because she was using his name as much as mine,” Flemmi said.

    **************************************************

    What the Media Spin does not tell you is the FBI and Mafia relationship goes back to the 1920′s when FBI agents used the Mafia friendship to kill and maim union activists and civil rights workers.
    Carlo Tresca is one person murdered in this collaborations of Death Squads..
    Voters and taxpayers have to come to grips with the concept that first and foremost the organizational model of the FBI is that of a death squad.
    FBI agents tend to contract their assassinations to other death squads so they can distance themselves from the actual hit. They utlize death squads like the Mafia, Klu Klux Klan, John Birch Society and the military , these are vendors who perform third part contracting services.
    see attorney William Pepper’s book ACT OF STATE which details the military,CIA(another death squad) Mafia and Military in the assassination of Martin Luther King.
    The real issue here is that you are unable to do anything about it because your ability to protect yourself has been bred out of you by 10 generations
    of americans using police to protect them. You have forgotten how to protect yourself.
    see Professor Bud Schultz’s books:
    THE PRICE OF DISSENT
    IT DID HAPPEN HERE

    Comment by neverwasbad — December 20, 2010 @ 11:54 am

  356. Repost, for the truth.

    September 18, 2010 at 6:55 am

    Spew all you want, but facts are facts.

    Not many “real victims” remain because of so-called nonlethal *nerve agents* that are being used covertly.

    Tacrine anyone?

    2002-0233 02/19/2002 BIBLIOGRAPHIC Salem, Harry ARMY Client is searching for Provided client with results of
    toxicolgical information on CBIAC and Toxline database
    Tacrine, an anti- searches.
    cholinesterase inhibitor from
    the perspective of its
    potential use a non-lethal
    weapon.

    Sunshine Report – “Another document (available here) reveals the interest of a senior US Army toxicologist in tacrine, a drug used to treat Alzheimer’s Disease. The Army is not interested in the drug, however, for helping disease victims. Rather, it is assessing use of tacrine as a weapon. In February 2002, at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland, the toxicologist ordered a literature review on its potential for weaponization. Chemically, tacrine is a acetylcholinesterase inhibitor, a first cousin of the nerve gases sarin, tabun, and VX (among others).

    Comment by notbiased@mymail.com — December 30, 2010 @ 5:31 am

  357. Helter Skelter and Gimme Shelter

    War, Children
    It’s just a shot a-way,
    It’s just a shot a-way
    See the fire sweeping our very street today,
    Barns like a red coal carpet, ma
    Mad bull lost its way
    Rape! Murder! It’s just a shot away
    Gimme Gimme Shelter
    or I’m gonna fade away
    Love sister,
    It’s just a kiss away.

    Comment by overandunder — December 30, 2010 @ 7:40 pm

  358. Kay Griggs talks…

    http://www.whale.to/b/griggs.html

    Comment by eatthis@zmail.com — January 1, 2011 @ 4:55 am

  359. A little replay for the uninformed.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2004/061204wolfhired.htm

    Comment by eatthis@zmail.com — January 1, 2011 @ 5:43 am

  360. Two or three of us had a chance meeting with Timothy Mcveigh in a place named The Original Donut Company in Stuart, Florida in 1994. He never mentioned Oklahoma in any way, but he did speak repeatedly of building a fertilizer bomb. He reiterated about attacking government. He had someone with him who knew about the plan. Considering the fact that in 1993 two men who might have been from the Air Force may have stalked me on the pacific coast, and tried to kill me, and who got away with impunity did not exactly encourage me to contact police or anyone else about the conversation, and I never did. The supposed Air Force dudes had a licence plate number. It was 14911F Oklahoma. That was in September. Michael Goforth, a reporter / editor for a Fort Perce, FL newspaper near McVeigh’s mother’s residence has an article on the internet. It says Tim Mcveigh visited his office in 1994 and told him something big was going to happen in Oklahoma.

    Comment by John — January 9, 2011 @ 11:10 am

  361. Bullies naturally gravitate to abuse the vulnerable, and therefore love to gaslight the mentally unstable. No one asks them to do it. Politics may also be a consideration even without being egged on. The recent attack in Arizona certainly demonstrates the ugly lunatic passions stirred up and exploited in the massively Republican political campaigns. No one planned on anything going that far, but you can’t summon up the devil and expect him to behave! Of course, evil doers to begin with, are often irresponsible. The new speaker of the house is a little late and typically hypocritical so to deplore.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — January 9, 2011 @ 4:16 pm

  362. Psychopathy personality traits
    Psychopathy

    Definition of a Felon Criminal BULLY

    Mask of Sanity:

    Superficial charm and average intelligence.
    Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking.
    Absence of nervousness or neurotic manifestations.
    Unreliability.
    Untruthfulness and insincerity.
    Lack of remorse or shame.
    Antisocial behavior without apparent compunction.
    Poor judgement and failure to learn from experience.
    Pathological egocentricity and incapacity to love.
    General poverty in major affective reactions.
    Specific loss of insight.
    Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations.
    Fantastic and uninviting behavior with drink, and sometimes without.
    Suicide threats rarely carried out.
    Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated.
    Failure to follow any life plan.

    Robert Hare Ph.D (1991 “The Hare Psychopathy Checklist – Revised” ):

    Displaying glibness and superficial charm
    Being in constant need of stimulation and prone to excessive boredom
    Acting in a conning or manipulative way
    Showing shallow emotional responses
    Relying on others for financial support (parasitic lifestyle)
    Acting out promiscuous sexual behavior
    Lacking realistic long term goals
    Behaving irresponsibly
    Avoiding long term relationships
    Feeling a grandiose sense of self worth
    Lying repeatedly without remorse
    Lacking any remorse or guilt
    Lacking empathy for others
    Having poor behavioral controls
    Displaying behavioral problems early on in life
    Behaving impulsively
    Failing to accept responsibility for actions
    Delinquency as a juvenile
    Displaying signs criminal diversity

    Comment by gurss who — January 9, 2011 @ 5:02 pm

  363. I may disagree in a couple of fine points: Bullies can indeed have very well formed life plans or at least careers. Indeed, many bullies are actually comically over parented petty bureaucrats in chronic abuse of power in a variety of social contexts, especially wherever checks and balances of oversight do not exist to constrain them. Devious bullies are often thick as thieves and as well organized as mobsters. The lone maladjusted bully is more often a myth needing to be exploded. Also, bullies crave validation and may come at all to believe their own lies, even indeed to the point of delusion. As I have said repea5redly before, serial bullying even however consummately organized, tends to be a grassroots phenomena, with little need for mythical shadow government or pervasive conspiracy oversight. And we should be discussing what to do about it.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — January 9, 2011 @ 6:11 pm

  364. grassroots phenomena.

    You are joking ???

    This shit has been going on for at least 60 yrs.

    You always point what it is but not by who ????

    Who are you trying to educate???…the insane ??
    You call it what you want, others can and do call it what they want,..YOU can not change that.You can not FORCE your opinions on someone with even half a brain… You are stuck with your opinion. Like stuck on stupid. yank your head around, do a 360, LOL !!bullying,stalking,harassing…what fucking difference does it make at the end of the day ???

    Comment by reed — January 26, 2011 @ 9:13 pm

  365. Bullying behavior is far older than any scant sixty years! Much of it can even be seen amongst pack mammals, let alone higher primates. You complain that I do not say who bullies. It doesn’t seem likely that you and I are actually bullied by the same cliques. But we do all belong to the same wider society, with the same problems, inadequate response to bullying and even enabling ethos. Again, I explicitly deny pervasive conspiracy. Furthermore, I do not see how I am the one forcing my opinions upon anyone else. And I find your name calling inappropriate. But whatever you think is going on, again, do tell: What should we actually do about it?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — January 26, 2011 @ 9:54 pm

  366. This website is not about “bullying”, it is about assaults using government grade chemical. biological and electronic weapons against innocent American citizens. This is Domestic Terrorism perpetrated by what would be unbelievable by all victims.

    Mr. Agassi, take your “bullying” accounts elsewhere, there are irrelevant here.

    Repost, for the truth.

    September 18, 2010 at 6:55 am

    Spew all you want, but facts are facts.

    Not many “real victims” remain because of so-called nonlethal *nerve agents* that are being used covertly.

    Tacrine anyone?

    2002-0233 02/19/2002 BIBLIOGRAPHIC Salem, Harry ARMY Client is searching for Provided client with results of
    toxicolgical information on CBIAC and Toxline database
    Tacrine, an anti- searches.
    cholinesterase inhibitor from
    the perspective of its
    potential use a non-lethal
    weapon.

    Sunshine Report – “Another document (available here) reveals the interest of a senior US Army toxicologist in tacrine, a drug used to treat Alzheimer’s Disease. The Army is not interested in the drug, however, for helping disease victims. Rather, it is assessing use of tacrine as a weapon. In February 2002, at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland, the toxicologist ordered a literature review on its potential for weaponization. Chemically, tacrine is a acetylcholinesterase inhibitor, a first cousin of the nerve gases sarin, tabun, and VX (among others).

    Comment by not342167@mail.com — February 2, 2011 @ 4:39 am

  367. I have already explained how I am indeed on topic. Whereas you are just blowing smoke.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — February 2, 2011 @ 5:36 am

  368. Where there is smoke, there is fire.

    Comment by not342167 — February 3, 2011 @ 6:40 am

  369. Not always. Indeed, often not. -As for example, with ESP and the like. Often, the only conflagration are sparks of rumor enflaming fantasy, if not the torch of mendacity outright. But we all know this. “Where there is smoke, there is fire” comes as a desperate reort from someone who is just blowing smoke.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — February 3, 2011 @ 9:38 am

  370. these people are using chemical or biological weapons that react to injections they have secretly injected into me while i was drugged

    Comment by jp — February 5, 2011 @ 6:31 pm

  371. Yes, I have your word on it! And that should be good enough for anyone.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — February 5, 2011 @ 11:54 pm

  372. Quote “Agassi” – “Yes, I have your word on it! And that should be good enough for anyone.”

    Nobody that posts here expects *you* to believe anything, since you discuss such *off topic* subjects as ESP and *obviously* are not a victim of what the majority of “GangStalking (for lack of a better term)” victims describe as their personal experience. I’ve read that you say you have been bullied, I believe you.

    I don’t, however, believe you have the slightest knowledge of what anyone else is experiencing. Were you there? Do you profess to have some kind of special ability to *know,* like maybe ESP?

    And just because *we* “have your word on it,” should that be good enough for us?

    Comment by notbiased — February 6, 2011 @ 2:24 am

  373. Don’t take me out of context. You know perfectly well that I only mentioned ESP as a clasic example of the proverbial smoke with no metaphorical fire. Indeed, to reiterate, I have already defended the rellevancy of my posts, but you still do not respond. And the position you now take is sometimes clasified as: The insider-outsider dillema. Basically, you have resigned yourself only metaphorically to preach to the proverbial quior. You value no other perspective. You abide in an echoi chamber, and filter out everything that doesn’t fit. You have lost all hope of reasonable discourse with anyone else, no matter how rational or of good will. You completely dispair of ever making your case and exposing whatever pervasive conspiracy wherof you assert, publically. You accept no burden of evidence at all, let alone any higher standard of evidence for extraordinary claims. Well, best of luck to you all. So what is it that you hope to asccomplish? Even assuming hypothetically that everyting you claim is completely true, yet again, exactly what are you planning to actually do about it?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — February 6, 2011 @ 2:51 am

  374. Quote Agassi – “Don’t take me out of context.”

    Context? Proverbial? Metaphorical? Conspiracy? Hypothetically? We are receiving orders now? Oh, that’s right, you’ve been giving orders all along. We just have an innate inability to follow them, our failing, I’m sure we should apologize (sarcasm ((in case you don’t get it)).

    Rolling on the floor, laughing my ass off. ;)

    We are not “preaching to the quior” (or correctly spelled choir). *We* are *mostly* just victims that don’t need children like you trying to prove that they possess critical thinking and writing abilities.

    And, do you just sit on this site waiting for somebody to make a post? How sad, because I don’t, but in *this* case stopped back by on my way home.

    I would suggest that you “get a life,” a cliche, but possibly applicable in your case?

    And *you* should really proofread your posts for spelling and *context.*

    No offense intended dude, but really, that post was a mess.

    Comment by notbiased — February 6, 2011 @ 4:23 am

  375. Very well then, please, pretty please with sugar on top, kindly refrain from talking me out of context. Better?

    http://www.goenglish.com/preachingtothechoir.asp

    And I checked the box to be notified of new posts to this thread. So, are you saying that this forum is a support group, with the sole purpose of validating one another?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — February 6, 2011 @ 6:01 am

  376. aarroonn jibber jabbers..no flexability
    in his thoughts. like i said, stuck in a
    oblivion of a single thought…..never productive..stuck as a statue stands, never moves….stuck in a bubble of hoplessness.A knight full of wisdom…with no challange..

    Pop goes the bubble…!!!!

    Comment by lucy — February 6, 2011 @ 1:46 pm

  377. Anyone who doesn’t move in your direction and think as you do, isn’t productive? Bah humbug! Exactly what is so productive about your obsession?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — February 6, 2011 @ 3:35 pm

  378. this stuff is real.the stalking for me has been a group of families that are all related.blacks,whites,indians,even chinese or vietenmese.they are using chemical aerosols and cologne or perfume laced with chemicals that react to an injection they have given while asleep.as for me i have been drugged and interrogated multiple times.they are also using NLP timed hypnosis.they can program your unconscious and use the aerosol hypnotics to get you to do things you wouldnt normally due.they also have aerosol calmatives,steroid,and irritants.they have been trying to scare me into saying that im crazy,but i am not.They had me watch the movie Peaceful Warrior during the start of my harassment.In the movie the actor is taught by an imaginary person which turns out to be just hypnosis and chemicals.you would have to watch the movie and research it on the net,Also check on the director of the movie.Strange coincidences.I live in phoenix az and the people that have stalked me in san diego are related to the people in az.mostly parks and rec drivers and library.they use a lot of auto suggestion with the hypnosis.it seems like they know what we are thinking but ,its just suggestions they have put into the hypnosis.i hear ringing in my ears then things start to play back.its high speed sublimminal messages being played back.

    Comment by justin case — February 14, 2011 @ 8:27 pm

  379. After all, the leading cause of feelings of persecution remains actual persecution. And Paranoids often have enemies too, bullies having their Sadistic fun at the expense of the vulnerable. And getting helpful professional psychiatric support under hostile and stressful conditions is no confession of wrong or acquiescence to abusers. Justin Case, if you are not entirely delusional then get the goods on the perpetrators. Don’t be helpless! Plant electronic surveillance, even hire a PI, which has been successful in exposing vigilante gang stalkers in the past. But be advised that chemical sensitivity is perfectly common quite without covert injections. And people who are sufficiently threatened and harassed can reasonably misinterpret their own stress symptoms as poisoning of one sort or another.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — February 14, 2011 @ 9:00 pm

  380. aaron,
    just in case.. get it !!!???

    Comment by kingfungchu — February 14, 2011 @ 9:21 pm

  381. No kingfungchu, that went right over my head.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — February 15, 2011 @ 6:46 am

  382. I, for one, know without any question whatsoever that gang-stalking is for real. I am not going to detail my experiences, but they are many. I will now tell you something you are culturally conditioned to reject out of hand. Or should I say this next bit of information leaps the bounds of your credulousness. I had known in detail about the attacks of 9-11-01 since 1997. I told plenty of people about those coming attacks for four years, including people in law enforcement. Long before 9-11 I was the victim of six consecutive months of specifically worded terrorist threats. After the threats came two incidents in one 24-hour period that killed 104 people and wounded 265, some of whom were horribly disfigured for life, and I am a survivor of one of those events.

    Comment by John — February 26, 2011 @ 6:08 pm

  383. People in law enforcement are the enemy. u did not know this at the time..i understand..
    Yes, its real and law enforcement is finally coming around..( the lawful ones)the profane ones !. slowly…
    BULLYINGHARASSMENT< who the FUC* cares !!! ITS REAL..

    write a book for income !!

    How the hell did u know, ??? unless u are part of the corruptness. ??
    NO ordinary citizen would know this.
    ONLY GOV….or gov. contractor ???

    Comment by crimefighter — February 26, 2011 @ 8:13 pm

  384. Well, John, I’m not clear to whom your message is addressed, but I, for one, certainly believe in organized gang stalking amongst other modes of harassment by bullies and even various vigilante nobodies and wanna-bes. Even that such ubiquitous perpetrators are a handy resource for black ops and corporate criminals in retaliation against various dissidents and whistle blowers. And for that matter, I won’t even try to list all the warnings ignored up until 9-11, well documented, well known to the public and in no journalistic dispute. As to your own claims however, I have no idea. This is the first I’ve heard from you. It would be necessary to review and to discuss whatever evidence you might care to present. Do you wish to discuss the matter seriously?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — February 26, 2011 @ 11:27 pm

  385. Most of all of the above is true; but it’s simpler than you might believe. The FBI is running the whole stinking mess, not just in the US, but globally.

    We have Robert Mueller III, Ronald C. Ruecker, and Daniel Lee Cloyd, et-al, to thank for this crap.

    Now you know who they are… So, go get them!!!

    Comment by Sophie — April 5, 2011 @ 12:33 pm

  386. I know this is real and trust me when i say I would have never believed.If you watch carefully the attackers after you logged on will be talking and we go down for days. I know its not the fBI but why cant we collect the evidence before we tear your house apart. What are we looking for. How do we save our family. I have had behavior tests done okay on that one, one clue I found was when I did get to the doctors my white blood count was high. I know when I walk out on the street not everyone is against me. I am in school for criminal justice and I just feel if we could build a team some how and sneak up on them baam we got them. But they health in our hands. If you feel horrible think of happy things and god willing move around.

    Comment by Tnt3boys — April 11, 2011 @ 5:10 pm

  387. I take it that you mean catching ‘em red handed, maybe video recording gangstakers in the act. -Not by any means, doing violence and taking the law into your own hands.

    Is infiltration a strategic option? Their clique might be found eager indeed to embrace anyone who comes along spewing the same hate speech against their targets. A cute girl is ideal. Bullies are braggarts desperate for co-validation and easily stroked into self incrimination! Public places such as restaurants have less expectation of privacy under the law, for incriminating covert audio or video surveillance. Video can be edited for presentation on you local Cable Access channel;

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — April 11, 2011 @ 5:48 pm

  388. I, of course could post a mile long, but I wanted to add to a comment made at the other end of these posts about a large laptop with Navstar on it.

    I had an incident of an asian guy ask if he could sit at my table in a bookstore and he had a laptop with this name on it as well. He was about mid-twenties, newly bald, as so many of them are here. He said he was from Toronto and studying for his PhD at the University of Minnesota. This rang alarm bells, because when I called 911 to report all manner of odd neighborhood goings on, instead of sending the local cops, they sent out cars (2) from the U of M! They also thought my thinking was “disordered” and though they “weren’t qualified to make a diagnosis”… suggested I was a drug addict and paranoid and this is what really got to me, they said they had these calls all the time and were hauling in college students who were just under too much pressure to the Psych Ward!

    Fortunately I did study Psychology and called them on flinging around loaded terms they claimed they had no authority to use. Shut that down. And the local cop said, the U cops wouldn’t be there next time. At that point the U cop gave me a card for crime victims, and the other cop seemed like he had been thwarted. But I think this was just another game. Because it was for the U’s councelling services, which would have resulted in a diagnosis anyway. See they really know how to play you.

    Now, I don’t recall this being a normal experience when I went to that Hell Hole, but times change I guess…

    Anyway, this asian guy said he was doing his research on people’s opinions of chips and salsa!!! He said he set up experiments telling people nothing about the chips and dip, or he did a presentation saying that they were designed and engineered to complement and go with each other. Then he recorded their opinions about the products. And, he said, he would do the same thing with pills in trials. The placebos and the real psych. meds!

    So it’s really just like any other product to these people. Having a snack or having your brain biochemically altered is really all about the marketing experience.

    I am of the opinion that this is some pharmaceutical company testing on non-consentual humans in the field. The U of M has had quite a few scandals come out surrounding their “methodology” and enrolling people in trials for psychotic meds who did not have that diagnosis but they just needed more test subjects. They get grant money for these tests and who in their half-right mind would volunteer for such trials?!

    Also, around here we have something called the Smiley Face Killers?! Have you heard of this phenomenon? Quite a few of these men disappeared from local bars mysteriously, some cop bars, and wound up in the Mississippi River because that is what you do if you get too hammered around here. Even in winter, you just have a nonsensical urge to run off by yourself in the dark to take a peek at the icy river and go take a swim, but then the current gets you, or you are found on the ice months later laid out on your back, positioned with one hand over your chest in the talking hands sign language these people use, and the cops use.

    Oh, yeah, and someone else on the web said that the U of M is connected with the CIA for research. Just sayin’.

    So, I have to say that I believe Randy Quaid, till I hear otherwise!

    Comment by Lisa — May 5, 2011 @ 4:26 am

  389. If you don’t want your posts to reflect disordered thinking, you can always take a moment to collect your thoughts and revise your text before posting. I’m actually trying to understand what it is that you find so sinister. Psych students are routinely involved in various and often silly double blind studies as part of their curriculum. Although, true enough, the most inane product development does indeed shape the banality of the world we inhabit. But it’s still your life to lead. And for that you must settle your own mind and begin charting your own course.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — May 5, 2011 @ 12:41 pm

  390. Most actual victims of these Cointelpro/MKULTRA assaults have been neutralized by so-called non-lethal nerve agents, a *fact* that will be known if or ever when the *truth* is revealed.

    Many other aerosol, contact and food planted chemical agents and electronic weapons are being used against persons selected for these torture assaults.

    Sunshine Report – “Another document (available here) reveals the interest of a senior US Army toxicologist in tacrine, a drug used to treat Alzheimer’s Disease. The Army is not interested in the drug, however, for helping disease victims. Rather, it is assessing use of tacrine as a weapon. In February 2002, at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland, the toxicologist ordered a literature review on its potential for weaponization. Chemically, tacrine is a acetylcholinesterase inhibitor, a first cousin of the nerve gases sarin, tabun, and VX (among others).

    Look at all pharmaceuticals considered for weapons research on this study, disregard the “in the field” military delivery methods, the applications in our/victims cases are very *personal* as laid out in this blog and others.

    Comment by truth — May 9, 2011 @ 4:32 am

  391. Is any of this corroborated in journal of record?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — May 9, 2011 @ 10:20 am

  392. Agassi – “Is any of this corroborated in journal of record?”

    Is that some kind of joke? Really? Must be, because I’m rolling on the floor.

    Get off this site asshole, –we– will track you and *know* whom you are.

    Comment by truth — May 11, 2011 @ 3:27 am

  393. You mean, you gangstalk skeptics?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — May 11, 2011 @ 6:08 am

  394. AA says – “You mean, you gangstalk skeptics?”

    No, just –perpetrators– like you.

    Kind of obvious that you are what you are.

    Comment by truth — May 15, 2011 @ 12:13 am

  395. Then we shant need such formalities as evidence and reasoning.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — May 15, 2011 @ 1:13 am

  396. Well, when *you* don’t need it, *we* don’t need it.

    That will be the way it sorts out, as always proven by history.

    But I’m sure that you and your cohorts don’t remember that, *history,* that is.

    Comment by truth — May 15, 2011 @ 3:14 am

  397. I rate cohorts?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — May 15, 2011 @ 3:41 am

  398. Well, maybe you rate lackey/paid dupe. Sorry about the assumed promotion.

    Comment by truth — May 17, 2011 @ 3:59 am

  399. Oh, your so good to me!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — May 17, 2011 @ 4:38 am

  400. AA’s last post – “Oh, your so good to me!”

    Aaron, that would be *you’re* as in you are, not *your* as in the possessive of you.

    English/grammar lesson aside, the people who torture their brothers shall perish, at least in pulp fiction.

    Jules’ speech from Ezekiel 25:17:

    “The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides with the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon those with great vengeance and with furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know that my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.”

    Feel better now? I thought you would.

    Now rest easy as the world caresses you.

    Comment by truth — May 25, 2011 @ 7:42 am

  401. But you stand in opposition to helping the vulnerable against organized gangstalking and bullying, and you have threatened my life and limb, simply because I requested evidence of your more extreme claims.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — May 25, 2011 @ 8:25 am

  402. So, you cain’t take (or comprehend) a joke?

    I see now that I have underestimated your intelligence and I apologize for my lack of accurate observation of your now obvious vulnerability.

    Or, is the real joke that you assumed that the assertion was directed at you and not the perpetrators of so-called “Gangstalking,” making you a self confessed perpetrator?

    And really, “Pulp Fiction” is just as stated, fiction.

    And you say *you* were “Threatened,” I would expect no less from a “Gangstalker.”

    Interesting, as a case study of paid internet stooges.

    Have a nice day.

    Comment by truth — May 27, 2011 @ 5:42 am

  403. TO USA stuff

    I am target in Japan.(Canada→Cuba)

    Please translate to ENGLISH

    昨年、私が会社を辞めてから、日本のオペレーターは私に「日本でモビングを無くすために、わざと皆に疑われることをする」と

    という嘘を私に言っていた。

    どうもこれが嘘ではなく本音の可能性が高い。

    私を何かしらの方法で暗殺すると、今まで不信感を与えていた人達がモビングだと確信するように、このプログラムに関わる人達

    の人間関係によって、不信感与える度合いを巧妙にコントロールしているようにみえる。

    もしアメリカの思考・記憶盗聴を担当しているオペレーターなら、何故、嘘=本音とする必要性があるか、わかるはずだ。おそら

    く一瞬だけ、調べられるなら、深層心理まで見られない。

    私を殺すことを考えていたか調べて欲しい。少なくとも彼らは私を殺すという嘘はついていない。それは、その嘘を作る口実が無

    かったからではないか。

    おそらく、私がどんな人間かも彼らの都合がいいように伝えられている可能性が高い。

    Comment by Michael Katoomba — May 28, 2011 @ 5:06 am

  404. Japanese to English Google translation

    Last year, I left the company, operators in Japan to me, “to eliminate Mobingu in Japan, do what everyone suspected on purpose” and

    I was telling a lie.

    The truth likely lies not this much.

    To assassinate me in some sort of way, convinced that he was giving Mobingu distrust people until now, people involved in this program

    The relationship appears to be subtly control the degree to give a sense of uncertainty.

    If the operator is responsible for eavesdropping on Americans remember thinking, then why there is a need to lie-or truth, he should know. Perhaps

    Just a moment please, if you can look, not seen until the deep psyche.

    I want to check whether I was thinking about killing. At least they do not kill me lie about it. It is a lie that makes no excuses

    From what did not.

    Perhaps more likely, as has been reported that they work for me any human could.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — May 28, 2011 @ 5:55 am

  405. Michael Katoomba, if you can add punctuation to the above, that might render ir inrellifible.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — May 28, 2011 @ 5:57 am

  406. Crappy translation.

    Comment by observer — May 29, 2011 @ 1:31 am

  407. No sh-t!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — May 29, 2011 @ 6:41 am

  408. I am a target in Chicago. The first time that I realized, something just was not right was in 2005. As I read through the accounts in this site, a lot of them ring true to me. Since then I have been the victim of numerous horriffic episodes of stalking. The most terrible thing is the fact that it is a 24 hour a day threat, one thing after another. The fact that almost like it is their occupation someone has chosen to make my life miserable, angers me beyond control. I know that retaliation, becomes a game to them. They are very sick individuals. I beieve in Electronic stalking and the fact that the government is aware it occurs every day. The stalkers like to make their victims think that they are crazy or imagining things. I think the best thing that the governement could do is to let people know that it exists. I remember 5 years ago searching the internet, trying to find some type of help. I talked to several different people and found no assistance or answers. I think that part of the smug arrogance of a stalker or stalking gangs is that they feel that they cannot be caught. No one will believe the victim or the laws will not protect the victim, or because the government has developed forms of electronic stalking devices (NSA,CIA) it’s ok if they do it too. Stalking is selfish it ruins a persons life. I am glad to see people speak out against it.

    Comment by Trina Moore — June 4, 2011 @ 6:43 pm

  409. As far as stalking and harassment, particularly gas lighting, if bullies and vigilante thugs want their targets to be miserably aware that fix is in, then they’ll indeed have more an intimation soon enough. But what experience have you to indicate electronic surveillance, and what has the government to do with it, except, of course that authorities are generally clueless and of such little help? Indeed, awareness of bullying, particularly in its more covert and indi9rect tactics, is surely wonting from the po8ublic consciousness. Anyone will believe others when they are mugged or burgled, but less readily when we are being bullied, harassed or defamed.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — June 4, 2011 @ 10:06 pm

  410. When their is a lack of response from the authorities, your friends and family members to your fate, at the hands of organised crime
    this is, sadly part of the greater picture. The picture is a program that contains defence and protection systems. You say “they are
    definitely messing with me” The crimes defence program makes your ‘audience’ think that the appropriate answer is “No their not,
    your paranoid, irrational or delusional etc” otherwise your audience feels sympathetic pain and they feel uncomfortable to suggest anything otherwise.

    B/S the victim or get hurt yourself is how this criminal scumbag system works. Some people can read what I have to
    say, on this subject, but telling the same story to them face to face, I watch them double over in pain and look for an exit path.

    Those that are interfering with me, that is the stalkers that remotely view who I am talking too deal out the discomfort on them and
    fat chance of finishing the story. I hope the internet is here to stay.

    Comment by Robert — June 9, 2011 @ 11:29 am

  411. When it comes to the big picture, it’s just that I find pervasive undetectable conspiracy theory simplistic and unlikely. Indeed, I see more problem in our lack of conspiracy in response: not in merely being dismissed as crazy, but a real lack of initiative on our own part. To quote Olmstead: “When all is said and done, much is said and little is done.” If we can’t be bothered to organize in order to get the good on the perpetrators, make our case and take any active stand against organized harassment, then why should anyone else pay attention to us?

    Comment by aaronagassi — June 9, 2011 @ 11:58 am

  412. To have a subliminal system of harassment in place, to which no one claims
    responsibility for is highly likely. If such a system was exposed, well it wouldn’t
    be subliminal anymore, nor would it be effective, would it ? Long term exposure
    to a repetitive program brings about sensitivity to it, the tuning fork that only sings
    when it is struck at it’s tuned frequency.

    To ‘program’ pieces in the game to harass and become gang stalking operatives
    could be as simple as electronically/electromagnetically stimulating these people
    to feel good about what they are doing, bad if they don’t play ball.
    Look at how ‘conversion’ in the churches works…

    To suggest that such a system does not exist, or doesn’t work is protection of the
    perpetrators. I recorded various attacks over the last thirty years and provided
    evidence that was presented to psychiatrists, who now, I have ZERO respect for
    as these scammers & liars are effectively working for big pharma and the big
    bucks, kick-backs from pharma sales. Induce an illness so as to sell it a cure.
    Protect the perps and continue with misdiagnosis business as usual.

    Evidence presented, by me to psychiatry in the eighties, evidence of foul play
    and was told – coincidences. Too many coincidences shouldn’t be considered
    to be coincidence. To reject a need for thorough investigation into a complaint
    of gang stalking and intimidation is stupidity and corruption.

    When the authorities maintain a stance of deniability regarding such offences, well
    don’t you think that this is part of their programming, their instructions and education
    are to ignore such complaints ?

    Look at what happens to those that challenge this system, whistleblowers end up
    being some of the most isolated people on earth, loners.
    What do people say about it ? “They did it to themselves” Oh Really ?

    Comment by Robert — June 10, 2011 @ 1:57 am

  413. It entirely depends what is event even meant by the word: system. If by the word: ‘system’ denotes a process or procedure that can be learned and carried out in progressive stages, then yes. But if by the word: ‘system’ in employed in the sense of ongoing phenomena such as the nitrogen cycle, a mechanism such as the national power grid, or a distinct broad social institution like the Federal Bureau of Land management, indeed a pervasive secret, competent and powerful conspiracy, then no. That idea is explanatorily inelegant and frankly just loony, detracting from serious discourse. Any clique of borderline criminal bullies can engage in “far game” tactics. The systemic aspect, in the sense of system as any sort of a social institution, howsoever taboo from mention, is in the mind set of our society that tolerates or overlooks bullying in all of its forms and manifestations. We know perfectly well why bullies feel good about what they do, They don’t need exotic electronic stimulation.


    http://www.FoolQuest.com/cliquebusters.htm

    Comment by aaronagassi — June 10, 2011 @ 9:38 am

  414. I was not talking about bullies Aaron, those that have been conditioned to feel
    good about what they are doing to another human being are not occultists, drug
    dealers, rock n rollers, actors, script writers or loony tunes individually, but a
    collective of these and more, that make up the entertainment industry, which has
    a system of perversion and manipulation, as a necessary part of operations and
    it’s on going success.

    These operations include ‘setting an individual up’ and exploiting them via ‘hidden’
    methods. There is no consent granted by the victim or his/her family or friends.
    Operations are very much “DARK OPS” but not the Military. The entertainment
    industry in full of parasitic, criminal, egotistical, power tripping scum with lots of
    money and no ethics, morality or respect for the law, human life and psychological
    Stability.

    Gang stalking isn’t always obvious to the victim, neither is the use of technology
    to bring about a level of conditioning. These tend to stay covert for lengthy
    periods of time or until the victim becomes aware.

    Electronic/Electromagnetic systems of behavioral modification are not that
    high tech, as these systems could be HiFi, Television etc, that relay the programs
    of mental molestation – i.e. – plug in substance abuse & long term exposure to
    it combined with induced (illegally or taken freely) mind altering drugs.

    Aaron what do you know about the gains that can be had (fiscal) of discretely
    Setting someone up and ripping them off ? What do you know about the
    Entertainment industry’s occultists and programs of ritual abuse ?

    Comment by Robert — June 11, 2011 @ 2:05 am

  415. Aaron please read this – it is lengthy and does contain state sponsored shrink
    fact sheet material – I obtained my ‘medical records’ in there entirety when the
    parasites returned in the early 1990′s… It might help you to understand what
    is implied by the generic term – THE SYSTEM

    July 20, 2010 at 11:53 am (as posted elsewhere, on the net nearly a year ago)

    The 25th Anniversary of the Madonna Scam and the ‘chooks’ Pretending to be Madonna
    and no doubt were paid for this. Voice to Skull by way of voice modulated ultrasonics‘
    piggy -backed’ onto the local radio station carrier frequency.

    The radio station was 2MMM operating out of Bondi Junction in Sydney’s eastern suburbs.
    Over a period of many months prior to the events of the 19th of July 1985 subtle suggestion like
    – “No, leave the radio on, this is great stuff” It’s not in your face
    suggestion and it is perceived as ones own thoughts.

    A very effective way to manipulate someone and nothing to Stop It. By the time you are aware
    of the ‘external’ to your own thoughts you are already ‘under control’ ‘wired’ and their toy to
    play with. Madonna’s Boy Toy Thing, when she got a little older – “What are you into Madonna?”
    “Oh, I’m into pushing other peoples buttons”

    Combined this form of V2K (excludes microwave carrier) with low frequency modulation to alter
    the TI’s Mood, i.e – how you feel. A very powerful, criminal system of grossly violating an individuals
    rights to peace, privacy, trust, psychological stability etc and for what purpose?

    Exploitation, Making Money, Theft of Intellectual Property & Discrediting after Exploitation and
    the list of offences is well understood in ‘the arts’ Discrediting Example – “He’s Mad” ‘Paranoid”
    “Delusional” “Irrational” “Up Himself” “Full of it” (Why fill a page with what is already accepted
    by T.I’s as methods of discrediting someone who has been exploited ?)

    The Facts that the so called ‘Authorities’ are more than complacent to ignore the T.I’s complaints
    requires further Evidence that they are party to this well established Human Rights Violation based
    on their own narrow minded ‘program’ that they are comfortable with APATHY.
    “I’m alright and this is all bullshit anyway”

    Look how high they jump when personally confronted with such crime, only to be hammered down
    by the same system they were once supportive and instrumental in servicing.
    What when they were wired to the same “B/S” their psych patients complained of ?

    “Oh, there is nothing with my mental health, I’m a psychiatrist” (Silence of the Lambs ?)
    Malcolm Dent, once a prominent Sydney based Psychiatrist was prescribing neuroleptic drugs
    and taking sexual advantage of his patient(s) Drug induced relaxation, suggestion and repetition
    = hypnosis

    A long time ago Anton Mesmer was cut down from his perch by an entourage led by, I think,
    Benjamin Franklin for committing similar crimes. Taking unfair advantage of the helpless, powerless
    and easily manipulated victims of sanctioned crime. (Until the perp’s are cut down –
    disempowered, then this continues to this day – torture for the victims)

    Wired up by scumbags exploiting you and you don’t know ? Psychiatric, Psyche Trick, Or Treat
    as required to reinforce ‘reality’ and deprogram (get the bugs out ?) Rub salt into the wounds of the
    victims and tell them that it was all in their minds. Same ‘salt in the wound’ treatment again (Bullshit
    the Victim) if the ‘Bugs’ get back in where the ‘Value’ was to be had.

    On the 19th of July 1985 after many months of the Industry Parasites via the FM radio receiver, their
    reinforcement of Added Delusional Content, to the ‘approved’ program of Mind Control Crap, (sorry,
    ‘entertainment’) went like this -

    “Madonna” – “Let’s meet over at your mother’s house this afternoon and tell her of our intentions
    to marry”
    Robert – “Great, do you know where you are going”
    “Madonna” – “of course”

    I grabbed the last $10.00 in cash that I had, the Rickenbacker 620 (a 12 string solid body HAARP)
    the TU-12H tuner and a guitar lead, put them all in the guitar’s hard case and set off for the family home.
    (I caught a taxi)

    When I arrived and knocked on the door, I could see the back door open, but my mother was hanging
    washing out and couldn’t hear. I used my key to get in and greeted mum down the end of the back yard.
    When we came inside and I settled down from what had made me quite anxious, I said to my mother –

    “Guess what mum, I getting married” my mother said ‘Oh yes and who’s the lucky girl ?” I said this –
    “Madonna, and she’s meeting me here this afternoon” My mother didn’t handle this to well (understandably)
    and became quite hysterical, verbally abusive and told me to get out.

    I had just spent the last of my cash on the taxi fare and the closest bank was up hill & miles away, and
    besides that what about when “Madonna” shows up and I’m not around ?
    My mother was clearly upset but I asked her to loan me some money and give me some paper & a pen
    so I could leave a message behind for Madonna when she shows up.

    My mother then tried to call my father, who was at work and then she called the cops. One of the Police
    officers I knew as we went to school together for the first 5 years till the end of 1970.

    Anthony Gerard SHAW was at this time a Police Constable attached to Maroubra Police in Sydney’s
    Eastern Suburbs.

    After a brief discussion with my mother he then spoke with me
    SHAW – “What’s this stuff about going to marrying Madonna”
    ME – Yeah, great ha”
    SHAW – “You’re mother doesn’t want you here’
    ME – “Yeah, I know”
    SHAW – “Can we give you a lift somewhere, you’ll have to
    ride in the back” (A Bum Waggon)
    ME – “That would be great, are you going back up the junction?”
    SHAW’s offsider – “That’s a nice leather jacket, you’ve got there”
    SHAW – “Hop in”

    They didn’t stop at Maroubra Junction and kept going to
    Randwick, entering the Prince of Wales Hospital whereby
    I was placed in the interview room of the Psychiatric Acute
    section and left there alone.

    Anthony Gerard Shaw then completed this form –

    MENTAL HEALTH ACT, 1958, AS AMENDED
    Section 12 (1) (e)
    Request by a Member of the Police Force in New South
    Wales for the Admission of an Alleged Mentally ILL Person
    Into an Admission Centre
    I, the undersigned ANTHONY GERARD SHAW
    Police Constable at present attached to MAROUBRA Police
    Station, inform you the superintendent of PRINCE OF WALES
    Admission Centre that I believe Robert (surname) to be a
    Mentally ill person and that I found the said Robert (surname)
    (this section not struck out) committing some offence against the law.
    Dated this NINETEENTH day of JULY, 1985 at RANDWICK
    Signature (ashaw)
    Address MAROUBRA POLICE

    MEDICAL CERTIFICATE
    I do hereby certify that on the 19th day of JULY, 1985
    I personally examined the person abovenamed ROBERT (surname) and
    I am of the opinion that the said person * is a mentally ill person, or ought
    to be detained in an Admission Centre for observation or treatment.
    (Superintendent) Chris Pollock
    (Admission Centre) POWH
    (Date) 19/7/85

    What Anthony Gerard Shaw attached to this form in his ‘hand-writing’
    -
    At about 2.15pm on the 19/7/85 I was called to an address at (address Inserted)
    There I spoke to (my mothers name) who told me that her son Robert had got into
    the address by using a duplicate key.

    At present Robert is residing in the Bondi area.

    He has not lived at his parents address for approx 20 months.
    He has been told not to attend his parents address unless on invitation.
    When speaking to Robert he stated that he was married to the singer
    ‘Madonna’and she was picking him up at his parents address.
    Also Robert was vague about his address.

    MENTAL HEALTH ACT, 1958, AS AMENDED
    Section 12 (6)
    I, the undersigned, being a registered medical practitioner certify that
    ROBERT (Surname) of NO FIXED address was personally examined
    by me on 19/7/85 at PRINCE OF WALES HOSPITAL and I recommend
    that further observation
    and treatment of the said person in a mental hospital or authorized
    hospital is necessary, and I make this recommendation upon the
    following grounds:

    Facts indicating mental illness observed by myself: Mr. (Surname)
    believes that he communicates with the singer Madonna by telepathy
    and that they have made a pact to marry. They write songs together
    and will bring peace and love to world. He uses a lot of puns and is in
    high spirits and denies that there is anything wrong with him.

    Mr (surname) appears to be suffering from a hypomanic illness and should
    remain In hospital for further observation.

    Name of Medical Practitioner: S WINFIELD
    Signature: S.Winfield
    Address: c/- Prince of Wales Hospital, Randwick
    Date:19/7/1985

    1700hrs
    19/7/85 Brought to unit by police on 12 1 E status. Had visited his parents
    house today looking for money. They contacted police. Has been living in
    rented accommodation in Bondi. Hypomanic X 2 weeks. Grandiose opinion
    of himself. Believes he is married to Madonna. Brought
    an electric guitar into ward with him. Strumming same in T.V. room.
    Mild flight of ideas and pressure of speech. Irritable during M.O’s
    admission interview asked to be paid for same. Rx Chlorpromazine
    100 mgs given orally stat. Sedated after same. Ate supper and retired
    to bed after same. Quite drowsy after stat dose of Chlorpromazine.
    M Dolan R.N.

    0800hrs
    20/7/85
    100mgs Chlorpromazine

    MENTAL HEALTH ACT, 1958, AS AMENDED
    Section 12 (6)
    I, the undersigned, being a registered medical practitioner certify that
    ROBERT (Surname) of NO FIXED address was personally examined
    by me on 20/7/85 at PRINCE OF WALES HOSPITAL
    and I recommend that further observation and treatment of the said
    person in a mental hospital or authorized hospital is necessary, and I
    make this recommendation upon the following grounds:

    1)Facts indicating mental illness observed by myself: Mr. (Surname)
    has an Inappropriately elevated mood. He exhibits pressure of
    speech + flight of ideas.
    He is somewhat intrusive + disinhibited. He also exhibits overactivity.
    He expresses grandiose + totally unrealistic plans, eg he claims to have
    “artworks of printed circuits” on which he had world wide patents,
    which he intends to be manufactured in Australia.
    He claims to have invented a “capacitor keyboard” which he says will
    make 80 -90 billion dollars which he will use to build dams, etc in
    Eastern Africa.

    I recommend further observation + treatment in hospital.

    Name of Medical Practitioner: D.P. Koziol
    Signature: dp koziol
    Address: c/- POWH
    Date: 20/7/85

    Is this really the system ? Someone screws with your head using technology directed at you and then someone else screws with your head using drugs after which you have no memory of what has happened (chemically lobotomized – brain washed) and then the perpetrators can return to steal more saleable intellectual property and ERC’s ETC knowing all too well, how well protected their game is from being challenged.

    Notice the entry about EASTERN AFRICA and investment in it, state of NSW Government paid shrinks writing about something
    that were not privy to – synthetic telepathy in 1985, this between a woman claiming to be Madonna and myself. Many years later
    Madonna was indeed investing in eastern africa…

    Comment by Robert — June 11, 2011 @ 6:50 am

  416. Robert, regular criminals, any petty thugs, may need to profit from a scam or a shakedown, but do you realize how little incentive is required for a bully? Aside from being so unlikely and explanatorily inelegant and unnecessary, deep conspiracy theories share another characteristic with religion: Which one amongst so many ought one simply to accept and embrace on faith? You offer no verifiable supporting evidence, or even much logic for that matter.

    Comment by aaronagassi — June 11, 2011 @ 7:58 am

  417. I’m convinced, your a machine.
    Part of a defence network that is bullshit is reality.
    Are you a Jew, or just trying to get in bed with them ?

    Comment by Robert — June 11, 2011 @ 8:21 am

  418. No I am not an elephant man, with pigmies squashed between my toes.

    Comment by Robert — June 11, 2011 @ 8:35 am

  419. So witch department of escapisim do you defend AARON ?

    Comment by Robert — June 11, 2011 @ 8:47 am

  420. Ad Hominem much, Robert?

    Comment by aaronagassi — June 11, 2011 @ 9:56 am

  421. Aaron – Gessell Mit Beshrankter HalfWit Tuine

    Comment by Robert — June 11, 2011 @ 11:06 am

  422. corporate crimes, defence by those that ?
    In death i’m looking forward to wacking you scum….
    no returns. APE SHIT a n d y o u r e c o n o m y

    Comment by Robert — June 11, 2011 @ 5:29 pm

  423. Huh?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — June 11, 2011 @ 7:11 pm

  424. The system – Aaron is simple, Hydrogen is No.1 every other element is referenced to No. 1
    So No.1 gets a GOD status and if you are lucky you might get to breed contempt with No.1
    like No. 8 for example to become a compound of pathetic existence called water.

    Or breed evil contempt with No. 16 and form rotten egg gas, like a dabm fart…

    Such a compound may wish for more… How can one call water – life, what a load of shit,
    polluted and tainted with simple life-forms – microbes that think that they are ‘stars’ how
    much of you is really that human ?

    Microbes running over your eyeball just so you can see different shades of light.

    Comment by Robert — June 15, 2011 @ 11:25 am

  425. Vision -

    Microbes in your sights,

    Optometrists, you may know, well they call them floaters – face down !

    Comment by Robert — June 15, 2011 @ 12:03 pm

  426. I have no idea what you are on about, but it certainly sounds misanthropic.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — June 15, 2011 @ 2:38 pm

  427. Misanthropic is only applicable if we are talking about human beings, so the word
    is not within context.

    Those that participate in gang stalking and harassment are not human beings,
    they are low life, a sub species – lesser than human life. Aaron you suggested that
    gang stalkers are bullies and thugs, you indicated that you did not accept that it is a
    part of organized crime, big business and the big bucks
    .
    If I was to say that innocent people are deliberately misdiagnosed as mentally ill
    and Big Pharma does really well out of it, a cheap source of humans for
    experimentation you would probably say something like “You offer no verifiable
    supporting evidence”

    I presented evidence of gang stalking and electronic harassment, which I was the
    victim of, in 1985. You responded – “You offer no verifiable supporting evidence”
    I think you may have just skipped right over the top of it, considering none of it, with
    a preference just to continue, on your way, with your words of negative input to what
    others are saying.

    I tend to agree with others, that the views you have posted on this topic, are
    irresponsible and erroneous but you are more than a stalking skeptic, you seem
    to get your kicks by Attacking & Discrediting the opinion of others.
    Someone said they though you must get paid for this, internet trawling, derailing
    etc, if not then I’m saying it !

    Your posts are, at best, irrelevant and your use of words, bullshitting the cause
    generally. You seem to think that jumping on topic such as this, that started in
    2007 and derailing it, is some kind of sport ?

    I posted examples of irrelevant comments to give you a taste of what you are
    effectively doing to others. Maybe you will learn, accept and agree, one day…
    what are the wide and varied reasons behind gang stalking, inclusive of high tech
    electronic harassment and assault.

    To play down such crimes as ‘not happening’ is the applied training of a shrink,
    how they just love playing the devils advocate. Then again perpetrators also
    would have a reason to derail such a topic, in defence of their crimes. I wish you
    were sitting the cockpit, ’cause my finger is on the eject button !

    Comment by Robert — June 16, 2011 @ 5:27 am

  428. http://warofillusions.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/smoking-gun-proof-of-existence-of-voice-to-skull-technology-from-the-us-armys-website/

    Cut and paste this (as above) in your search bar…

    What is it about ?

    Gang Stalking, Murder, Electronic Espionage &
    Torture, REALITY rejected by the desperate – like
    psychiatrists, the media, law enforcement, religion
    etc, and the lives ? of those, whose very existence
    rely on this horrid and biased SYSTEM of abuse.

    Kick a garbage bin and watch a starving artist crawl out…

    Kick a SYSTEM and watch a manipulative scumbag crawl out…

    Comment by Robert — June 16, 2011 @ 8:59 am

  429. example -

    “Chemical Induction, to bring about responsiveness to a global
    Interactive transmission?

    Those that have been ‘wired’ up to it, sadly some of them are
    Persecuted by their neighbors for what they are responsive
    and object to. I have people in my neighborhood screaming
    out on an ongoing program of street theater, things like “he has
    brought a ghost with him” (8.5 years ago)
    “He is evil” (4 years ago)

    These are just some, of many memorable ‘hits’ from an
    Interactive neighborhood of gang stalking, wind up perps
    none of which have ever wanted to discuss what they have
    a become party to – ORGANIZED CRIME.

    They seem to “get off ” on being a part of it, one neighbor, who
    moved in a few years after me, without any applications to council
    for re-development proceeded to remove structural internal
    walls, the carpet, the curtains etc, turning the whole house into
    a giant bathroom, an acoustic amplifier, then invited a screaming
    woman to move in who incessantly prattles all day.

    Intimidating is an understatement, especially when this woman is
    making comments pertaining to personal thoughts. “He’s going
    Downstairs, to the garage” for example.

    Besides these directed hits and abuse of my privacy –

    A rather lengthy list of offences and ongoing victimization that
    NO-ONE WISHES to discuss, they love making noises and
    stalking me, when I react to their disturbances, by just focusing
    on the noise source for a moment, I then come under a “joint”
    attack with high pitched noise in the ear (or ears)
    chest pains, muscle movements etc. It is like someone jumped
    on me, I am no longer myself – physically.

    A popular directed comment prior to these ‘attacks’ is
    “put a bullet in him”

    The induction of artificial schizophrenia (synthetic telepathy)
    via applied substances? High Probability, the reasons why
    are extensive. Entertainment? Not to a victim.

    Reply “

    Comment by Robert — June 16, 2011 @ 9:31 am

  430. A Quote from Aaron -

    “Aside from being so unlikely and explanatorily inelegant and unnecessary, deep conspiracy theories share another characteristic with religion”

    A quote from Robert (Elsewhere – as mentioned)

    “Why would people do this to each other?

    The BIG ONE -

    It replaces the unsuccessful – RELIGIOUS BELIEF PROGRAMS”

    Comment by Robert — June 16, 2011 @ 9:51 am

  431. Imagine if there was some ‘quiet’ way of reducing a planets populus…
    (because of a lack of infra-structure to cater for e x p a n s i o n of
    ‘humans’ amounst other ‘entities’)

    AND RELIGION WAS UNSUCESSFUL…

    “It was god that told me to splatter thy neighbor – hood”

    For such ‘programing’ to work -

    “I knew nothing’ – the neighbors
    Mass hypnosis via the internet “Not to believe in gang stalking ops”

    Comment by Robert — June 16, 2011 @ 10:01 am

  432. You deliberately quote me out of context.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — June 17, 2011 @ 8:07 am

  433. Arron, you’ve always been “out of context,” as pertains to this subject.

    You are either way behind, or a perpetrator.

    Comment by observer — June 21, 2011 @ 3:05 am

  434. Ah! So by deliberately distorting my comments, you are only restoring balance and harmony!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — June 21, 2011 @ 6:15 am

  435. Balance & Harmony does not exist, when you a victim of organised crime.

    Aaron,
    Persecution of victims may very well be a sport to some folk, but then there
    isn’t a lot of difference between sadists and perp’s is there ?

    Comment by Robert — June 22, 2011 @ 12:20 pm

  436. These people are evil of the most kind. Most are paid to participate and the local police are the leaders of these groups. Physically you are targeted for various reasons..you could have pissed someone off, made somone jealous , or someone perhaps a family member want something you have, but if you are like most targets you are a morally decent, just and good person , which is why this all started in the spirtual realm..organized stalking is not new it has been going on since the beginning of human history and have always existed in some form in every society yes even the good ole USA. It was hidden from many in the U.S but in the last days when the bible stated that many things would be revealed, More victims have been targeted inorder to bring this evil to light. The perps are laughing now but jesus is crying because these evil humans have been tricked by satan in to suffering total damnation in the ever lasting fires of hell with Satan…They are sentecing themselves to the most horrible punishment that their small human minds cannot imagine..You targets have been chosen by god to endure this suffering because you are a follwer of the most high and he has a purpose for you, trust in him and your father in heaven he will provide for you..do not let them discourage you from your purpose, do not allow them to steal your joy and know that “Our father in heaven sits on the throne”. This is Satan’s last attempt to take all of Man to hell with him…your goal is to gather souls to bring to Christ with you. Put on the full armor of the lord..soliders…go out….you are sheep amoung wolves…Jesus is counting on you.

    Comment by Tiffany — June 27, 2011 @ 4:22 pm

  437. Hi Tiffany,

    The police are NOT the leaders of these gang stalking groups. The police just
    do as they are told, by those with the MONEY, no questions asked. Corrupt
    scum if you like, as they question nothing of their instructions, from the power
    tripping, wealthy organised crime groups. Civil War against such power brokers
    is still a crime, they call it terrorism…

    Comment by Robert — June 27, 2011 @ 11:38 pm

  438. Another thing Tiff -

    “this all started in the spirtual realm..organized stalking is not new” – was your quote ?

    The spirit world splits, when the spirit world is swamped by NOISE, noise tends to win,
    call it the industrial age, wait for corrosion to affect it’s change, the bridges start to topple
    down, like the comm’s towers and no one gets around anymore without a pass – sold by
    t h o s e that don’t believe in anything else other than control, through power,
    purchased by money and other fictional romances, that such scum think are valuable
    resources – thugs, fuck-wits, enviromental vandals, planned failure, planned
    obsolescence. De list of mis-adventure is e x t e n s i v e, yeah ? Inclusive of the list
    of escapist abuse, escapist substances, that lack substance like religion.

    Happy New Financial Year ! – Fiscal Junkies…

    When FREEDOM costs – according to freeman.

    Comment by Robert — July 1, 2011 @ 2:29 pm

  439. I am a Targeted Individual for about 30 years now, which probably makes me a senior victim, though i’m just in my early fifties.

    It all started back then with a vague feeling of being under surveillance for no obvious reason, with strangers waving at me frequently like they’d knew me, and other forms of street theater. I told this to my parents, and they opted for meds. I went on Lorazepame for 7 years, developed a low dose dependency, and happily got rid of it with months of sleeplessness and moving to another town, free of “paranoia” symptoms. The trouble, however, started again after some time at my new place, i did not know then, that once you’re gangstalked, you’re fricked. I was frequently run into, stared at, photographed, called numbers and animal names, and fragments of private talk with friends or family were thrown at me in public, to my sheer horror. I was not as serene as i am now, so i moved from town to town, from place to place, just to get rid of this nemesis. But it was all in vain, so i returned to the place where it all started, because there’s where my friends and family live. (It’s much harder to be a Target when you’re a complete stranger i town, that’s what i learned.) In between, i went to several doctors and had been to clinics twice, just looking for help, but all i got was a formal diagnose of paranoid schizophrenia. Well thanks, that helped me a lot getting back to work. At work, the stalking was not less intense but more sublime, whenever i went for a cigarette, silent groups from other departments hung around, just being there, turned silent when i appeared, no word spoken, or at the canteen, where i was confronted with repeating patterns of somewhat strange behaviour, just not enough to mention it, but manifest enough to be a pain. These gangstalkers are absolute monsters, they’re not dumb or inept, they know exactly what to do to make you go “What?” without being perceived by others but the victim. And that’s the point: everything you start to tell about the whole case ends up in highbrow shoulder shrugging, and the “recommendation” to see a doctor.

    And what can uninvolved people say, how can they help? This crime is perfect in so far, as the victim sounds invariably nuts to the uninvolved, even to psychologists, who are confronted with a rising amount of gangstalking victims (they discuss a gangstalking syndrome, no joke), and the perpetrators happily behave totally unspectacular to the unsensitized.

    Once you’re sensitized, the game is on, and all you can do is write about on websites like this one. Thank god, i learned on the web that i’m not alone, and that the name for this crime is “Gangstalking”. That was of great help for me, almost like a dream come true. I don’t think that selfhelp groups of victims are a good idea, as they can easily be infiltrated by perps, and victims are so different, they share only that “being gangstalked” badge, which won’t grant anything but a nervous search for identification.

    No, the web is a perfect place to share my hopes and ideas for a better handling of that all. One thing i learned over the decades: they’re not from outer space, and they don’t use esoteric weapons. They’re good in employing NLP methods, that’s why i think their wirepullers have some intelligence background, but most of them are just in for a buck. Or for the mere pleasure of feeling a tad not as extradited and unprotected as they in reality are. I bet, some would brag to you in a weak moment, if there wasn’t the fear of being punished. This is organized crime at it’s weirdest, just NOT as depicted in hollywood movies. There’s a nice and very philosophical quote from a bavarian (yes, i’m german) artist, Herbert Achterbusch, who said: “You have no chance, so take it!” This little sentence helped me through many a bad time.

    Good luck to you all gangstalked fellows out there, don’t lose hope, don’t drink or drug (that makes it worse) and take always good care of yourselves!

    Comment by Michael — July 7, 2011 @ 1:24 am

  440. The most common cause for feelings of persecution remains actual persecution. Still, beware of sensitization unto chronichypervigilance. Where can I find such discussion upon “gangstalking syndrome”?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 7, 2011 @ 4:47 am

  441. @Aaron
    I came across the more or less cynical term “gangstalking syndrome” during a brief stay at a clinic last year, when a doctor explained to me, that some other patients encounter a “comparable set of symptoms”. I wonder how long it will take the uninvolved public to realize that there’s actually something going on.

    Addition:
    In the classic gangstalking setup (multiple stalkers vs. one victim) the victims are left alone with one big simple question – “Why?” – and this informational vacuum gives ample room for proliferating attempts of explanation, including all kinds of sickening cul-de-sacs. Let me explain this on the “signs”, “hints” or “names” the perps address to their victims. In my book, these are just means of filling the victim’s informational void with subtle weirdness, aka sensitizing, all efforts to “decode” these “secrets” are a.) futile and b.) dangerous. I.e., i was frequently confronted with varying “colors” and “numbers”, presented to me in a very “earnest” fashion, and in the beginning, i tried to decode these things utilizing the kabbala, the i ching, astrology, numerology and other para-scientific stuff. For quite a time i considered myself on a noble spiritual quest, with oodles of advisors along my way, and to my perps sheer amusement, i got obsessed with numbers and checksums. It culminated in permanently translating the letters of words i heard into numbers, and these into colors, trying to get the “underlying message” – quite an absorbing thing to do. Too hard to come down from, i got rid of this really sticky mental dysfunction with the help of pharmacy.

    There’s nothing educational, ethical or spiritual about organized harrassment. But to cope with all that enervating “hare and hedgehog” type demonstration of omnipresence, however, developing a spiritual or religious mindset can be rather helpful, if not crucial. But not in a conspiratorial sense.

    Comment by Michael — July 8, 2011 @ 1:02 pm

  442. You may have noted how in this very topic thread, I have been subjected to such abuse for rejecting pervasive conspiracy theory. We seem to agree that organized gangstalking is simply a mode of incessant serial bullying. I’d be interested in your response to: http://www.FoolQuest.com.cliquebusters.htm The Cabalistic hint dropping angle is new to me, however. I suppose that simply fits in with gas slighting more generally.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 8, 2011 @ 7:22 pm

  443. Gangstalkers have a massive and natural interest to infamize targets by shedding a dubious, pathological light upon their statements, on the web or elsewhere. For that matter, conspiracy theories (disregarding their specific validity) in a gangstalking context are much rather means of obfuscation than of elucidation, unfit to support any victim’s struggle for a convincing public image. The uninvolved (including M.D.s) go like “Whenever i google for gangstalking, there’s ufos and aliens and mind control galore, gee, gangstalking must be just as weird or hallucinatory.” It’s rather normal to see good threads about it struggling with incoherent, dramatic b.s., as the topic attracts genuine victims, insidious perps and plain nutbags to equal parts.

    Been to Cliquebusters, nice one, especially the various useful links (the tips for targets section is not unquestionable, though), but a bit too elaborate for my taste. I like to keep it simple: gangstalking is organized crime, and gangstalkers are organized criminals. And as long as they get away with it, all we can do is publish our experiences, disgust and indignation in the most accurate, most readable form possible, stylistic superior, with a weirdness factor of absolute zero, alluring the uninvolved into actually reading further. Exchanging deeper insights, spiritual guidelines or explanatory excursions into the mechanics of abuse and bullying is a laudable thing, but not exactly inviting for ordinary people who simply need to be convinced that a crime called gangstalking IS happening, and that gangstalkers operate on the same level as serial rapists and child molesters. That’s what the combined target efforts should be about by now, not much more.

    Watched “Gaslight” yesterday for the first time, btw…

    Comment by Michael — July 8, 2011 @ 11:07 pm

  444. Since States/governments manage that, it is a Secret Police typical technique.
    Destruction and deception.

    Comment by rscaru — July 8, 2011 @ 11:23 pm

  445. Cliquebusters is such squeamish taboo in that I strive beyond mere consciousness raising. We must organize and take action! That is what I find so sorely neglected, even amid such encouraging advancement of the anti-bullying movement. I yearn to strategize together.

    But as for flamers and credibility, to begin with it’s a real problem quite simply that generally people more readily believe in muggers than in bullies. Bullying is conspiratorial, but at the grassroots. And that is where it must be uprooted.

    Ravings about mythic black helicopters we just do not need!

    We must bear in mind, nevertheless, that the mentally ill or just extremely distressed, make the most tempting targets for sensitization. How cruel!

    It also bears acknowledgment that Corporate and Intelligence targeting of dissidents and whistleblowers does often make ready use of convenient Sadists, those petty thugs and bullies.

    PS pardon the heretofore malformed link: http://www.FoolQuest.com/cliquebusters.htm

    Comment by aaronagassi — July 9, 2011 @ 12:49 am

  446. State/government gang-stalking does not only strike “dissidents and whistleblowers”.
    It is also used for trying creating terrorists and common criminals for later trying hetero-managing them.
    Or it is used as annihilation program for failed terrorist and common criminal creation.
    There are also other cases.
    There are people casually put on gang-stalking annihilation programs since the need of fresh flesh for secret police units with annexed academicians on payroll.
    …Alias:
    I. Special operations’ departments are created. Funds are allocated. They now need to do something.
    II. So, they select possible targets even in odd/casual ways.
    III. They use them for their annihilation programs. “The target must not work, must not study, must not live.” <== Covert total war against the target.
    The State Secret allows them to commit crimes without any possible accountability.
    They have GANG STALKING N.A.T.O. MANUALS, …standard procedures… at NATO level for "covering" the target in the whole NATO area and also outside it.
    ________________________________
    Secret military devices for gang stalking [devices for watching through walls, floors, ceilings, etc] have been provided from the NATO to China [PRC] in the year 2000 for following NATO gang-stalking targets even in China. For instance, Taiwan [RoC] already had them.
    I saw them, and their utilization, both in China and in Taiwan. …Also elsewhere…
    Cooperation NATO-Chinese Secret Police Departments!!!
    Since then, thanks to this NATO [UK-USA] support, these devices are currently used for internal repression, white torture, white killing, both in China and Taiwan.
    Communists, fascists, liberals: No Difference!

    Comment by rscaru — July 9, 2011 @ 2:02 am

  447. Asked and answered

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 9, 2011 @ 3:39 am

  448. Most actual victims of these assaults have been neutralized by so-called non-lethal nerve agents, a *fact* that will be known if or when the *truth* is revealed.

    Many other aerosol, contact and food planted chemical agents are being used against persons selected for these torture assaults.

    Sunshine Report – “Another document (available here) reveals the interest of a senior US Army toxicologist in tacrine, a drug used to treat Alzheimer’s Disease. The Army is not interested in the drug, however, for helping disease victims. Rather, it is assessing use of tacrine as a weapon. In February 2002, at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland, the toxicologist ordered a literature review on its potential for weaponization. Chemically, tacrine is a acetylcholinesterase inhibitor, a first cousin of the nerve gases sarin, tabun, and VX (among others).

    Look at all pharmaceuticals considered for weapons research on this study, disregard the “in the field” military delivery methods, the applications in our case are very *personal* as laid out in this blog and others.

    Comment by truth — July 10, 2011 @ 4:42 am

  449. Traveler13 says:
    May 9, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Have to agree with Truth’s statements in regaurds to chemicals being used on targets. Have expereinced various symptoms I could not explain. One such agent I have heard about is used to put people to sleep. Aerisolized and sprayed through cracks in doors, ventalation systems, and open windows, it allows perps to enter the targets home while the target is in a deep sleep they cannot awake from.
    Reply

    truth says:
    June 26, 2011 at 3:25 am

    After some victims were gassed is when they realised that they could have been or were implanted with electronic devices that are used for “no-touch” torture.

    These are *Nazi like* experiments/weapons applications being secretly/covertly forced on American citizen/victims.

    Assaults of a truly cruel nature that are clearly defined as torture by anyone’s definition.

    Crimes against humanity.

    Comment by truth — July 10, 2011 @ 4:44 am

  450. Randy Quaid…

    Jeremy Blake And Theresa Duncan

    http://nymag.com/news/features/36091/

    Comment by truth — July 10, 2011 @ 5:44 am

  451. First of all, I fail to see the rellevance of the above hyperlink, neither to bullying not to conspiracy theory. Bullying in its most coordinated and devious covert relational hostility including shunning, mobbing, backbiting and gangstalking, pervades not only the school room and the work place, but every even the less formal social context just as vital to the targets of bullying. But on the entire spectrum of bullying, I should have also have mentioned theextremes of “fair game” tactics, most notorious as a feature of cult harassment but especially by degrees, by no means exclusive thereto. I wish that we could split this thread into two, one for the conspiracy nuts, and the other for anti-bullying. We can’t even debate the two world-veiws until we can agree on ground rules against flaming and abuse and as to the place of evidence.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 11, 2011 @ 4:47 am

  452. I am being targeted by gang stalkers in East London and they wont stop and cyber-stalk relentlessly.There is also an element of covert control of the local community by fear and oppression.Bully boy tactics quite openly in tiny areas my home and elsewhere has been invaded by people using some perverse form of electronics. And no outright acknowledgement as yet I thought this was all science fiction like the twilight zone and locals pranksters but no its gone on for a couple of years now. Undermining all induced disfunctionality by con men and corruption twisted personalities wanting power.

    What “power” to harm others needlessly and undermine structures of reality?
    There is a constant noise sound wave type system hissing around the circumference if my home where do these creeps get this stuff from and their violence to dominate others and so destructive treat UK citizens as inferiors.
    How to get the police fully involved and disarm the technology as without that these trumped up ….. bullies doing criminal invasion all Human rights Privacy laws negated in present day Britain with their nasty psychological/political undermining.

    And fear is a factor in this horrendous agenda freedom of speech expression movement – knowing whom some of them are is another Intimidation technique.Fear to describe all the reality of this systematic abuse because of sounding like a looney! Horror and tactical isolation one of their key phrases was “Don’t Fk with the system we will Fk with you” and They are Mind Fuckers that’s how they control the Village” and haven’t I witnessed it all and its going on in a surreal backwater now over the back gardens.
    A ugly biblical nasty Racist attack group that negate negate and stonewall individuals and I suggest the public in criminal Harassment.

    Comment by Shanti Thomas — July 11, 2011 @ 9:43 am

  453. Disgust and horror needless endangerment and harm of others – re-addressing this ongoing Entrapment by a blood curdling group totally out of control should the priority of the Government and the Police Force.This and this group are like something out of a Stephen King novel “Salem’s Lot” comes to mind but now with technology….. big questions invasions of freedoms of all rights?

    I am an artist and there is a beeline in that too attacked my practice long standing career as well degradation of society a very personal attack.

    Comment by Shanti Thomas — July 11, 2011 @ 9:53 am

  454. Disgust and horror needless endangerment and harm of others – re-addressing this ongoing Entrapment by a blood curdling group totally out of control should the priority of the Government and the Police Force.This and this group are like something out of a Stephen King novel “Salem’s Lot” comes to mind but now with technology….. big questions invasions of freedoms of all rights?

    I am an artist and there is a beeline in that too attacked my practice long standing career as well degradation of society a very personal attack. Abuse [by bullies cowards] is central and how to Halt this evidence is crucial the devious use of Technology and how to gain full police investigation an endemic greek word meaning native but its alien to health and freedom a plague like spreading across UK.

    Comment by Shanti Thomas — July 11, 2011 @ 10:04 am

  455. Police cannot “investigate”.
    Gang-stalking is organized from Secret Police officers, who use irregulars.
    Secret Police officers, covered by the State Secret, ban whatever investigation.
    Our dossiers are on the desks of Prime Ministers, Presidents and Queens.
    There are their signatures authorizing each gang-stalking operation.
    Parliaments are informed and provide total cover.

    Comment by Roberto Scaruffi — July 11, 2011 @ 11:09 am

  456. I don’t agree completely with official forces being the major stirrers in the gang stalking department, maybe some political targets have reason to believe that they’re victims of governmental agitation. But according to the law of large numbers, it’s only logical, that anyone, who’s peculiar and not exactly embedded in a functional social web, will (by bad luck) serve as a cheap target for arbitrary offenders. Responsible in the majority of the severe cases are imho self-righteous counter cultures of varying nature and focus, populated by literally the most ordinary people, mostly displeased with official governance and setting up their own “movement” against whatever they consider “detrimental” to their specific point-of-view. Some of these movements seem 2b tolerated by the police, some are not. And with mobile phones, internet and spy gear available to virtually everybody, a great deal of technically savvy folks avail themselves of these means for playing war against each other (yes, these “movements” are perfectly aware of each other’s existence!) or simply playing foul on easy prey. Organized crime benefits from and employs that abundant high tech, too. And with the abuse of contemporary gadgetery in economical, criminal or political context being to obvious to be theorized – see that News-Of-The-World-”scandal”, the only question of substance to me remains: how come that ordinary people can act so inhuman and grueling within the confines of a modern, western society, far from being as shaken and disrupted as Weimar in the last century’s 20s, and destroy the lives of common folks just like THAT?

    Comment by Michael — July 11, 2011 @ 2:41 pm

  457. States/governments organize gang-stalkings also in a casual way, other times as mechanisms of terrorism and criminality creation. …There are specific NATO programs…
    No private gang-stalking would ever be possible.
    A single stalker may be easily caught.
    State/government gang stalking is total against a target, it is not limited to a single aspect of the target’s life.
    “The target must not work, study, live.”
    Eventually: “The target must not work, study, live, must be pushed to…”

    Comment by Roberto Scaruffi — July 11, 2011 @ 3:03 pm

  458. Michael, where do you get your theory of rival counter-cultures pranking one another? And you can’t really be all that surprised that bad people do evil, or that society fails to control the problem or often even to acknowledge it.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 11, 2011 @ 4:38 pm

  459. I can only speak from my experience of Gang Stalking and in this case unfortunately it does involve local council workers at a political level and they are brazen and use their corrupt status to intimidate one of them openly admits he’s corrupt and why dont I scratch his back [and what roll over and ....!]The other one says “they’ do it to people they want rid off out off the area.It’s intimidation by control fear domination. Here where it goes on quite openly is not that far from central government and New Scotland Yard.

    Comment by Shanti Thomas — July 11, 2011 @ 10:35 pm

  460. @Aaron:
    after all these years the logical idea emerged that there must be more organizations than only one or two, as they can’t have the same underlying ethics. The “bet-on-suicide speculators”, for example, are strictly profit-oriented and immoral, whilst the “characterful citizen patrol” chases “immoral” individuals, implying an imminent enmity between these two. The third group i could distinguish, the “Joy-Division”, stalks for the fun of it, thus both being immoral and a threat to the profit-oriented schemes of the “speculators”. And then there’s the “Officials” Roberto is talking about, they go by the rule “Divide and conquer” and won’t interfere in the other groups activities. But they do act, i reckon, if either one of them becomes target of a private group or a target is under custody of a private group. So far my “theory”, i don’t know if they play pranks on each other, it’s more of a membership thing, i guess, fraternity-ish, involving daily exchange of stalking-relevant data, “ethical” or “identical” support, immediate reassurance concerning qualms, and, of course, support against molestation by other gangstalking organizations. Maybe war is too big a word for their grudging co-existence, but unless they don’t have a mutual target, i guess they don’t like each other too much.

    Private gang-stalking is a fact in western countries. The power and influence of official secret services is vastly overrated, i.e. the german secret service got bereft of detailed construction plans for their new headquarters the other day…

    And i’m still astonished about the sheer crookedness of fellow people in world that, with some serious effort by all of us, could be not much less than paradise.

    Comment by Michael — July 11, 2011 @ 10:46 pm

  461. Michael, your “character citizen patrol” or self appointed morals committee, and no less “joy division” Sadistic for all their Moralism, each without distinction sound like vigilante gangstalkers and harassment, thugly cop wanna-bees often known for accusing innocent people as Pedophiles and running bogus jailbait stings, usually online. Such is an exploitation of the current hysteria over child molestation such that ordinary people have even actually been known to become afraid to be seen even holding babies! As for “bet-on-suicide speculators”, or perhaps dead-pool gambling syndicate if you will, that notion thus far strikes me as both vague and a little unlikely. Have you evidence of knowledge of anyone actually taking bets on harassing a target of bullying into suicide? That would be a new low! The closest known, and no secret, are the notorious dead peasant insurance policies. http://deadpeasantinsurance.com The rest of your post I can’t quite follow, but of course, as a rule, being well connected socially confers protection from being bullied and even impunity for malfeasance.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 11, 2011 @ 11:27 pm

  462. Arron A – “First of all, I fail to see the rellevance of the above hyperlink, neither to bullying not to conspiracy theory…”

    First of all, that should be *relevance* and *hyper-link.*

    So, you are not into research on “Gangstalking,” “Government Gangstalking,” “Government Organised Gangstalking,” “FBI overt surveillance” and on and on, which is what this is about.

    Seems you are stuck on bullying, as has been said before.

    *You* are simply off topic and have been since your first post.

    Intentionally or not, you distract from the main topic.

    Comment by AmericanUSconfirmed — July 12, 2011 @ 5:51 am

  463. I can only speak from my experience of Gang Stalking and in this case unfortunately it does involve local council workers at a political level and they are brazen and use their corrupt status to intimidate one of them openly admits he’s corrupt and why dont I scratch his back [and what roll over and ....!]The other one says “they’ do it to people they want rid off out off the area.It’s intimidation by control fear domination. Here where it goes on quite openly is not that far from central government and New Scotland Yard.

    Has anyone any knowledge of gang stalking which is a Hate Crime/Harassment ever being successfully prosecuted or dealt with legally in UK firstly or elsewhere? As hate crimes are reported but after the event like the poor woman and her daughter driven to suicide in England in Derby I think – as if this on the rise here there isnt a central register or particular agency that is up to speed on this ?
    As for trying to tackle stalking the police advised hiring private detectives but I cannot afford it and as stalking in gang is a multiples xxx large quantity thats where these crimes fall into some awful sadistic black hole. It is society’s problem and the individual to solve.

    The threads to my other posts as to what is the profile of gang stalkers – either deviants and subcultures of politics of bad governmentships moralistic castration of others lives and all into into puerile violent violation of human civil rights – the longer the criminal gang stalking goes on the more they multiply and confuse Divide and Rule colonialists mentality.

    This group stalking me do have variant strands to confuse isn’t it about deviant misuse of power “Appropriation of others” by sick and frustrated people.
    This group of gang stalkers even boast “they” Own Me” and they are yuck “THE PARTRIDGE FAMILY”. and there is a very ugly sexual subjugation strand against all UK Laws women’s rights and racist – I am off mixed race Italian/Indian born in England married a jewish man this group have attacked all of my cultural mixture Feudal and dark ages. They have gone from open violence too threats to kill rape and trying to run me over as well as the repulsive suicide “We want you to commit suicide…. or cut your eyes etc ” macabre horror. The technology they have as well is sophisticated MOD/Psychological type and Invasive……….they have taken Gross Invasion of Privacy to the limits depths of depravity its how they torture prisoners terrorists in Guantanamo Bay.
    Military style organised vigilantes with concentration camp mentality with this type of technology and violence walking around in England?

    Comment by Shanti Thomas — July 12, 2011 @ 8:36 am

  464. If it is State/government gang-stalking, it cannot be suited. They control judiciary. One has to find other ways.
    They are not “Secret Services”.They are special sections of the police and of military and other police et similia [Scotland Yard, FBI, Carabinieri etc. http://scaruffi.blogspot.com/p/ros-one-of-carabinieri-secret-police.html, in Canada CSIS-RCMO-IRBC ]
    It is not “overt surveillance”. It is NOT surveillance or monitoring. It is led by Secret Police but using ONLY irregulars. They are illegally provided with military devices. It is a combination of white torture and social lynching, covering the whole life of the target. It is a technique for pushing to do something and, if that fails, of pure annihilation.

    Comment by Roberto Scaruffi — July 12, 2011 @ 10:46 am

  465. This is precisely why suggested splitting the topic into two. No, AmericanUSconfirme, you are the one stuck ob deep pervasive conspiracy, and the one out of step, if we are going from the first posts to this thread, before you conspiracy nuts hijacked the agenda and flamed all serious conversation into silence as usual. Either way, I still miss the pertinence of that link.

    Shanti Thomas, local petty politics is all too often replete with bullying and abuse of power. Too bad you weren’t wearing a wire on that noxious braggart! Get’m next time. Incidentally, for evidentiary purposes in court, in public places such as restaurants, there is less of a reasonable expectation of privacy. You should also get covert video of the threats and harassment. If the police still won’t respond, then put it all up on YouTube and demand action.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 12, 2011 @ 12:05 pm

  466. I just want to add, that ever since i expressed my comprehensible disgust in the wake of the 9/11 events, including some anti-islamist remarks, i got stalked by members of the turkish community, too, (which was pretty new to me), pointing out that they’re valuable, hard-working members of society. I don’t deny that, no way, and maybe it was just a test-run on how to hush unpopular squalling – well, i didn’t squall, actually, i simply talked and emailed about it – but as the gangstalking community tapped and copied my entire I/O, spoken and written, without any hesitation, they insulted and sold me as a work-shy wanker and political die-hard to be chased away. Ironically, i am not so sure anymore about the true nature of 9/11, according to massive, provable inconsistencies, but the damage is done. I also came across notions like “Jedem das Seine” (“To each their own”), a term decorating the iron gate of the then Buchenwald concentration camp, referring to my angry (private) rants about being delivered to a cynical scheme that kept me from finding work for years, while at the same time despising me for being unemployed. It’s so wack…
    Yes, they accuse almost every target as “pedophile” wherever they can, but what about the children they recruit for their evil, encouraging them to harass and insult innocent people? THAT is flagrant abuse.

    Comment by Michael — July 12, 2011 @ 1:05 pm

  467. For bogus online chat stings, let alone just making shit up completely, obviously actual minors are not needed. So, how are actual minors, indeed children, being commanded by vigilante gangstalkers and to what ends? If you’ve a shred of evidence, you must share with civil services. If you’ve citations online, do post them.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 12, 2011 @ 8:12 pm

  468. Aaron -the group doing this are overt type illegal surveillance the majority of time is some perverse audio narrative voice cover which is hard to record and considering the interminable duration obsessive-I would have to have a van load of equipment.My home is bombarded by audio abuse 24/7 like tweeter and whoofer /hydrophonics and a swishing sound wave going around perimeter from the neighbours [from hell] with their counterparts corrupt council bullies.Cyber stalking and military type regime draining all energies.
    Corrupt control freaks and I in all my naive-ness never thought there could be so many people are so cold dead internally malicious or why pick on me or anyone and the horrid shock that they have not stopped and its been nigh impossible to get any police involvement.
    Two terribly long awful years of stalking harassment erodes hope beliefs the deadening shock of this horror going on and on.

    Comment by Shanti Thomas — July 12, 2011 @ 11:35 pm

  469. You can video record gangstalking, and if a corrupt politician is arrogant damn fool enough to brag, then you can audio record it. As for neighbor bullying and sonic harassment, you might even be able to find a science student to test and document the ambient noise pollution in your home and even compare with sound tests conducted nearby. This might even facilitate a civil complaint with legal representation on a contingency basis. And the best protection from getting psychiatric railroaded is to find a shrink of your own you can trust.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 13, 2011 @ 1:08 am

  470. According to Paul Baird – http://www.surveillanceissues.com, just the sight of a camera worn by the
    targeted person is a means of deterring the stalkers. Advising the ‘bragging’ perp that you
    are ‘recording’ (audio/visual) would probably prevent evidence from being captured.

    Not to advise the bragger, of recording may constitute a criminal offence, I know, I know – how
    do we catch a bloody perp then ? If the authorities can go and apply to a judge (or magistrate)
    to have someone placed under surveillance, without that persons knowledge, well why can’t
    a victim of organised crime, gang stalking & harassment do the same thing.

    We have heard of ‘making a citizens arrest’ so what about ‘citizens collecting evidence –
    covertly’ … with the consent of the relevant judiciary member. I have many years of recorded
    evidence of sonic harassment, if I processed it, which would be required as it is voice modulation
    of frequencies above 15Khz, this can’t be presented on YouTube, as is, because of the bandwidth
    limitations of the Audio format associated with what is capable of being stored on the YouTube
    server system.

    The other issue is how a lot of this sonic harassment occurs – it is piggy backed onto a locallized
    noise, in the target’s immediate area and this is the source of high frequencies (approaching
    ultrasonic) that I have found to be created from multiple sources of noise that have formed ‘beat’
    frequencies in my immediate area, this made it impossible to record these attacks. Solution 101
    was to set up my own noise sources so that these were louder (to me) than the ambient noises
    were.

    A dedicated computer with a 24 bit soundcard, a high quality (not that expensive) microphone
    and I recorded what was happening around me – sonically. To be honest I got better and more
    transparent recordings when I was using a HiFi – VHS set-up with HQ chrome tapes.

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 8:07 am

  471. self edit -

    It is important that ‘your’ sources of ‘noise’ are only – less than 1dB louder than ‘theirs’ so
    as ‘they’ can’t perceive any difference when ‘they’ are ‘hounding’ away at you. Behrxxxer
    mixer – with ‘meters’ – at least 4 microphone channels, should be less than $200 US on
    EBAY – brand new. You can then compare the ambient levels of noise (using the meters)
    against your internally generated noise source – which should be only just a little bit louder
    than ‘theirs’

    To catch a perp – one needs to be a sneak…

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 9:46 am

  472. Robert, your weblink is more crank bullshit, but I take your point in recommendation of deterrence. However I was indeed suggesting covert recording, hidden recording devices. And under the law, covert recording of one’s own experiences that are already recorded though with less fidelity and random access in the human brain, is not the same as planting a bug or conducting surveillance. Again, as a matter of admissible evidence never mind any threshold of criminal offence, there is less reasonable expectation of privacy in public areas such as restaurants. And there are no such limitations in the court of public opinion. In any case, Hugh Grant will not be indicted for his own personal sting on the News of the World. So relax! On YouTube you can present scientific findings, expert opinions, and display the results, animated graphs, jumping needles and gages etc. all in order to make your case and get your point across credibly. There are also sound formats that you can upload that will preserve the fidelity of your sound recordings. As for how to get adequate recordings in the first place, it strikes me that you’d know where to reach out for expert technical advice. Whether the ambient noise pollution is malicious or accidental, I hope that you get to the bottom of it soon. Be sure first to rule out tinnitus. Too bad negative sound technology isn’t more readily available.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 13, 2011 @ 10:05 am

  473. A Side Note -

    Sarah Agassi was a Jew, who pretended to be a Muslim Arab, last century the KING DAVID
    hotel was bombed by a team led by Agassi pretending to be bringing in fresh milk to the
    hotel, each ‘milk’ cannister was carrying 50Kg of H.E. there were six cannisters arranged
    in a star of david formation in the basement of the target area, 93 british nationals died,
    it was the end of the british mandate upon Palestine. The birth of the jew state – israel.

    Agassi is also reported in Israeli history as the woman who rang the hotel to report the
    bombing – before it happened – as in prior knowledge…

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 10:15 am

  474. Um, maybe we could split the topic…

    Yep, I agree – two groups, muslims & christians AGAINST jews !

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 10:36 am

  475. add, subtract, divide and conquer…

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 11:00 am

  476. So Agassi, are you a perp, or just a jewish pervert (not that there is a difference)
    to demean, dishonour, discredit…maybe just a math teacher ?

    Bad investment dude, your number is up… or maybe going down ?

    If argument becomes non profitable – what of the jew ? – a lost cause, a looser
    that only made money out of another, one that was living…the jew becomes
    un-believable like any un-workable fantacy. bye bye.

    The Jew -

    “WE have our numbers all over the planet, we will fuck you up in our numbers”

    “We are everywhere, you can go” –

    Hey -

    Gang Stalking – exposed ? – comment – the cluster fuck mind moles…

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 11:13 am

  477. Robert, your weblink is more crank bullshit…Agassi.

    Not mine, arsewipe and clearly agassi you are offended…crank bullshit.

    So what did you think of RAVEN ONE out of Canada jew boy ?

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 11:25 am

  478. Oh, shit.

    So what do we do without bullshit fantacy, according to jew, muslim, hindu, christian or (other)
    escapism – (fantacy) how can the real world survive without un-believable bullshit according
    to – ?

    Doomed reality without fabricated escapism that remains – so un-workable…

    I reckon, we could all do better.

    Without the poachers, preachers, priests, rabbi’s, pollution of procrastinating politicians and
    their mis-investments and biased, un-founded belief’s ETC.

    CAST OUT THE BULLSHIT, WELCOME THE PARADISE ! we all are’nt masochistic types…

    WE ARE HUMAN BEING’s – UN-GUIDED is BEST (why get slowed down ?)

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 12:22 pm

  479. IN TORT – FUCK THEIR PROGRAMMING…

    Wake up, don’t lie down to this bullshit, it’s expensive satanic economies…
    WHY WORK FOR THE CLUSTER FUCK of bullshit escapism ?

    SEX feels good ? – cluster JEW FUCK escapism and un-healthy premotions
    …breeding contempt.

    NOTHING IS BETTER – than what ? a bullshit fantacy. FUCK YOU WHOLESALE, ESCAPIST !

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 12:40 pm

  480. anything aye athiest asthiestic…anethis anethistic junky escapist, more mispell, spelling, speiling according to
    ar, are. aren’t..jay, j-word, jewfish, sell, buy buy, sell, cell, boy, boy, cott…

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 1:39 pm

  481. cott…I need to sleep on it.

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 1:46 pm

  482. remember -

    You maybe dealing with a machine, a corporation, a religion, an escapist economy?

    So what’s the difference dude ?

    I’m over it.

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 1:52 pm

  483. NOT on top – breeding contempt, of which an over supply still exists…

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 2:04 pm

  484. Agassi Said -

    ” And under the law, covert recording of one’s own experiences that are already recorded though with less fidelity and random access in the human brain, is not the…”

    Robert Said -

    I’m not here to sell out, you half-wit jew.

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 2:22 pm

  485. Agassi Said -

    ” And under the law, covert recording of one’s own experiences that are already recorded though with less fidelity and random access in the human brain, is not the…”

    Robert Said -

    I’m not here to sell out, you half-wit jew.

    So who makes money (escapist foundation) of scrafing thy neighbours escapist runway ?

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 2:37 pm

  486. So who makes money (escapist foundation) of scrafing thy neighbours escapist runway ?

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 2:40 pm

  487. yep, fuck hypnotic repitition ?

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 2:43 pm

  488. re po, re – pit, re – pet, tish tish, tash tash.

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 2:48 pm

  489. Esc (top left hand corner) apism – monkies…

    Nitrated, hydro-carbonatious and oxygen balanced equations, highly saleable.

    get there quicker, under extreme pressure…

    Ape Shit .

    They were advertising -

    If you wish for peace, invest in war…

    APE-SHIT, no less…..

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 2:56 pm

  490. “Life’s a gas”

    “Oh you’re shitting me”

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 3:04 pm

  491. Raving Anti-Semitism aside, if awards ever collected in civil tort against bullies offend you, give it all to charity.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 13, 2011 @ 5:33 pm

  492. “Raving Anti-Semitism” – cheap slander…

    Jewish gang-stalking activities include, but is not limited to bullying. Terms like psychological perversion
    and terrorism, mental rape, semitic defence networking, well, these terms come to mind. Mass media molestation, entertainment that isn’t entertaining, because it is manipulation through the sales of delusion
    and bad luck if you swallow that pill, this will aid further pill pushing sales.

    Religion as a hiding place for satanic craft, the evil darkness where black is called white, bad is called
    good. So Aaron please tell us when you would like to move off the small part that bullying, within gang-
    stalking, really is…

    Comment by Robert — July 13, 2011 @ 8:06 pm

  493. Thanks so much to Robert & Aaron for all info and for all technical advise on recording the abuse. and different locations. Yes the electronic sound wave does work on top of other sounds very irratating. No do not have tinitus though any more of this I may get it.
    Any advice on where to find science student put a advert in Imperial College or similar?

    Comment by Shanti Thomas — July 13, 2011 @ 11:11 pm

  494. Sounds good. A high school science teacher might also be good. There are also forums on sound engineering.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 14, 2011 @ 1:32 am

  495. Shanti,

    Some victims of EH (electronic harassment) and OS (organised stalking)
    have had some relief by operating recording’s of talk back shows, that is
    recordings of multiple talk back shows played simultaneously. You can
    use any of the audio recording formats (win-amp etc) and get a large
    collection of ‘verbals’ going, play this verbal ‘splatter’ back and deny the
    OS/EH individuals your company. They become just another voice in the
    crowd, so as to speak (no pun intended) talk back shows was an example,
    you could record verbal splatter in a crowded area, a hotel or such a busy
    environment.

    Think about the OS/EH individuals, that are targeting you as a sub
    species, low life parasites and come up with different methods of not
    ‘feeding’ or entertaining such vermin. Do not react to their drivel (I know
    how hard this can be) try not to show (or feel) fear for their scape-goating
    and accusations etc.

    They are not aliens, nor are they from another dimension, they could be
    wealthy, bored entertainers looking for spark, idiots gambling on guessing
    your movements or reactions, an obsessive personality disturbed nut-case
    or a list, rather lengthy, for what is the motivations for such creeps to do
    this incessantly to another human being.

    Some motivations are fiscal, for example the husband wishes to have the
    ‘gold-digger’ declared mentally ill, so she misses out. Intellectual property,
    designs, etc have been stolen and OS/EH will keep the victim so distracted,
    while the perp’s register the stolen I.P. , etc as theirs (or sell it to the highest
    bidder)

    It’s not all sadistic human experimentation, or generating mental illness for
    big pharma to cash in on, the list of reasons are extensive.

    Comment by Robert — July 16, 2011 @ 3:15 pm

  496. HELP!

    I have recently read of somebody claiming
    [1] having been gang-stalked since birth and
    [2] having discovered that reading online about gang-stalking.

    I was a bit astonished.

    Please,
    [a] what do you think about [1] only and
    [b] what do you thing about [1] & [2].

    Many thanks!

    Comment by Roberto Scaruffi — July 16, 2011 @ 4:26 pm

  497. think
    not
    thing

    Comment by Roberto Scaruffi — July 16, 2011 @ 4:28 pm

  498. If you read this online, can you supply the URL? The story rather vague. And as to whatever claims, I’d request evidence. How would one even know going that far back?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 16, 2011 @ 6:22 pm

  499. The Three Wise Men, when you think about it Christ was stalked BEFORE he was born.

    Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) and other Ritual Abuse programming, that may operate within
    cult groups to establish and maintain such cruel conditining, if you approached one of the
    stalkers within such an organised group of cultists, hey what are doing to him/her ?

    “We are just keeping an eye on our investment”

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 1:02 am

  500. Nexr you’ll tell me they’re running daycare.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 17, 2011 @ 1:12 am

  501. The McMartin day care centre was run by occultists that specialized in child porn.
    What was done to the children was ritual abuse and brain-washing to keep their
    mouths shut. The media played down suggestions of underground tunnels, as
    told by the victims, the children. The media also played down the ritual abuse
    and patterning of the children, that included animal sacrifices. The tunnels were
    found, as were various animal bones, exactly where the child said they would be.

    The Media, that had been playing down the childrens stories, of secret doors, hidden
    tunnels, animal sacrifice, sexual abuse of minors, they dropped the whole story when the
    childrens claims were proven. Suspicious deaths (suicided – murders) also surround
    the McMartin day care centre.

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 1:32 am

  502. And the Salem witches only got what was coming to them.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 17, 2011 @ 1:43 am

  503. The witch hunts of Salem, ar yes. Where the term came from -

    Of those accused of being witches a lot of them were victims
    of a particular mould that grows on rye bread…

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 1:51 am

  504. No, in may have been any of their accusers that might have gotten ergot fungi in their rye bread, ergot being the organic source of ergotamine which is used to synthesize lysergic acid. No such excuse for the crazy Christian coppers who tortured fantastic stories out of those kids. That was the actual child abuse.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 17, 2011 @ 4:15 am

  505. Those behind the “actual child abuse” were hallucinating and the visualizations fed the popular misconception
    that witchcraft was occuring, so those who had the rye bread, ergot mould/fungi included must have been
    witches. The ergot only formed on ageing bread (as mould tends to do) and those with older bread would
    have been the poorer people of Salem, easier to point the finger and ‘appropriate’ children, property and
    material wealth…The wealthy ripping off the poor, hiding behind the banner of Christianity, or for that matter
    any fictional romance with eternity (religions, practices and beliefs)

    When it comes to organised gang stalking, satanic cults, organised crime and ritual abuse, well what better
    place for such cowards to hide out, than behind a religion or for that matter a profession (psychiatry) that
    is heavily infested with the opinion of a certain religious belief programming, the enforcing of fantacy from
    the cradle to the grave and evidence sooner or later de-bunked by science or other exposure showing the
    B/S and lies.

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 4:57 am

  506. …There is abundance of delirious “victims” manipulated from States/governments for hiding State/government gang stalking.

    Comment by Roberto Scaruffi — July 17, 2011 @ 5:07 am

  507. GANG STALKING
    Of course the States/governments organizing and implementing State terrorism, gang stalking, etc manipulate psychopaths, “victims”, delirious chaps for creating and diffusing a kind of gang-stalking-cult where gang-stalking is represented as an obscure and improbable conspiracy invented from unreliable mads.
    Actually, the only unreliable mads are Statesmen/women, governments agents, their militians, their manipulated psychopaths.

    Comment by Roberto Scaruffi — July 17, 2011 @ 5:51 am

  508. It makes more sense to put it this way – Like why consider states & governments are responsible, in any
    way, other than turning a blind eye – maybe accepting kick backs, as in the corrupt.

    The States and Governments inclusive of their Military and Police are SANCTIONING these crimes through
    deliberate ignorance of VICTIM complaints. Those with money and power dictate what is crime, what is evil
    and what is mad. Politicians legislate what they are told to, stalking is regarded as a crime, try prosecuting
    a wealthy individual that is not alone in gang stalking activities, try even exposing the game players in this
    organised crime and then wonder why you are ignored.

    Consider that the WhistleBlower tends to become one of the loneliest people on earth, not by their own doing
    but by speculation generated by those that, in their cowardly numbers, have something to lose – even perhaps their freedom. Mass hysteria put in place by the perp’s that goverments and their protection services (police & military) can’t deal with, so the minority (victims) see no justice, they are ignored – regards the complaints of OS/EH.

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 5:52 am

  509. What of those that become involved in gang stalking for all the WRONG reasons ? An opportunistic perp’
    see’s the gullible neighbours, who don’t know the targeted individual, that recently moved in next door.

    Rumours are distributed throughout the local community and your neighbourhood is stabbing you in the back
    for being a drug dealer, a prostitute, a pediphile or whatever reason has been fabricated by the controlling
    perp’ party. Now the neighbourhood has blood on their hands for their part in this organised gang stalking
    crime…

    Do you think they are going to come clean, about their part in it ?

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 7:16 am

  510. Even politicians and the police service have been fed the stories, directly, or associatively by perp operations.

    You have a genuine complaint to make to the police – “I was pushed to the ground, straddled and punched in
    the face, as I walked up the street, to catch a taxi” Pre-conditioned police response – “So what do you wan’t us
    to do about it” Victim – “You can arrest the offender, they are just around the corner, I don’t know them”
    Pre-conditioned police response – “Now why would we wan’t to do that”

    As soon as an opinion has been put in place, by the perps, with ‘authoritive’ “pressure” then everyone around
    the victim has the blood of foul play upon their hands. This can go two ways – the victim forms a mindset, becomes depressed – through a basic lack of response, for what is a crime committed against them OR they commit terrorist activities and become hostile towards the world around them.

    After more than thirty years of being stalked and exploited, poisoned and cheated, denied any justice, mis-
    dianosed and labelled, well my activities are along the lines of expose and ruin those, behind gang stalking
    that have done this to me, I sit back and watch them die, as I continue to deprive them of a reason to live.

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 7:43 am

  511. Psychology, psychiatry and the art of entertainment have one thing in common, like religions, they are selling
    a head fuck, an opinion – nothing that can be substantiated, so combined – life on the planet earth is a real
    ‘cluster fuck’ OR what’s your poison, escapism dude ? No wonder reality SUCKS with all these escapist shitters
    selling and reinforcing DELUSION.

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 8:06 am

  512. “Maybe when you grow up you will meet a rich prince”

    The 5 year old -

    “The Prince is in-bred and it’s money isn’t worth the hard-ship involved, mommy”

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 8:35 am

  513. So when did you disconnect the radio, television, stopped hiring movies, avoided the News of the World and
    watch the neighbourhood turn on you for being irresponsibly, non programmable ? So when did you start
    thinking – outside their compound ?

    WOW – Maybe there will be some NEW composers (at last) with enough! of the cover-(contra)-band smearing
    crap they call new PoP songs, I mean what ever happened to Ka-Boom Songs ?

    Presently it is still the manageable, predictable, repetitive, re-runs of hypnotic crud the Kids used to think was
    really entertaining – maybe it still is for the DRUG FUCKED idiots that only look forward to spending their pay
    packet – or someone else’s – on getting ‘wasted’ – when the (present) junky age is big pill-pop’n business !

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 8:56 am

  514. So what has the Drug Age got to do with stalking and gang stalking ?

    What Aaron likes to talk about – bullies & thugs, the reinforcement of perp ideals BY FORCE when the drug age
    see’s the consequence of drug fucked, to the point of non-responsive – junkies that liked analogue television
    tuned to a NON – STATION playing a continuous run of rice-bubbles & white noise.

    The term – “bashing some sense into the equation” “Snapping you out of it” ETC …so much for being let
    alone, in peace, to do your own thing. The drug age is big business – call it ‘economic circulation’ they enforce
    laws against the drug age, but at the same time, promote escapism – selectively.

    Bullies & Thugs are a primary target, for me. Without the idiots that defend the arse-holes (without knowing it)
    the arse-holes are rabbits on the highway…that become easier to run down.

    Personal Rule # 1 – Do Not Forgive the relentless sinner, that worships escapism, a false god, at my expense.

    High Society’s Ruling –

    Capitalise on cheating thy neighbour, enforce drug laws…

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 9:26 am

  515. Drug’s and Gang Stalking –

    “You hit on him/her and we’ll give you more than a taste you could only dream for”

    In tort, the bullshit economy of escapist substances, it set’s the presidence for crimes
    that will never be disclosed, by the living entities, that were participating in the torment
    and torture of an innocent. Payment goes further than the drug age -

    The 10th anniversary of 911 approaches, no one has exposed the reasons for the
    deliberate destruction of the twin towers – they required each other’s existence for
    construction, one was damaged by a ‘terrorist’ hit in the nineties, the damage was
    not repairable, “the foundations were fucked” then the conspiracy to load the building’s
    (at various levels) with nano-metre particulate thermite called – Thermate – Battery
    banks (back up computer power) were installed – they we’nt lead acid batteries – entirely.

    Planes that were modified and ‘steered’ from ground control locations, these were to
    be blamed for the ‘terrorist’ attack, yet the planes did not bring the building’s down.

    The fires didn’t either, through the use of THERMATE (nano sized thermite particles)
    and the ‘propaganda’ that it was a terrorist attack proliferated while the hard evidence
    was being removed, from the site, as quick as possible, and sold to recyling of steel, at
    less than market value, for a grade of structural steel (japanese) worth much more.

    Mass propagander, stories about anthrax, when asbestos and particulate metals were
    more lethal, to the local NYC community.

    We are told to accept the events of 911 as being not an internal ‘business’ activity, but a
    reason to go violate the middle east, in search of new and controlled opium poppy fields
    as well as desperately, required crude oil sources for our ‘petrol’ head mentality…

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 10:06 am

  516. No, the crazy Christian cops I reffered to where those “investigating” the daycare. -you know the type, your fellow conspiracy theorists.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 17, 2011 @ 11:18 am

  517. From now – eternity there will be complaints about the reasons for 911, the 2,800 reported lives
    that were lost and if ANYONE begs to differ from the ‘approved’ story they will be stalked, hounded,
    bashed and fed to the desperate, souless garbage the entertainment industry harbours, inclusive
    of what is termed – The Media – no questions asked, ABUSED SOULS so victimised, because
    they told a different story, to the approved one – Those that know the truth – they are either
    suffering, disclosed as mentally ill
    or are dead.

    The money that they ‘saved’ by their methods of ‘clearing’ the WTC sites with scant regard for human
    life. These rich scum are the strategic targets – on the other side – of this life. An army of billions of
    earthly victims, now deceased, their world trashed by satan’s scum, the shit with money, expended
    on self importance…

    As for an eternity – these perp’s will suffer – un-earthly pains. THIS IS THE WILL OF GOD (THE GOOD)

    Why forgive the relentless trespasser – when you can just burn the evil, cowardly scum ? – A Reverse
    Numbers Game ! All that is required is a will, powerful numbers for a new set of book-keeping figures.
    A new religion called fuck their economy & power trips ! – and now for something work-able (less kane)
    instead of worth-cain’t (worth less)

    When those that hide out in their COWARDLY numbers, are’nt that safe – at all. Cleansed by Fire -
    nothing cool about that effluent scum. Shit to BURNED to less Shit, forever more, un-forgiveable
    fucking scum.

    Their delusional escapism, their un-healthy belief in MONEY, POWER and the mis-appropriation of lives
    that were not their’s to abuse, they are not gods, they are other wordly target scum to be trashed eternally.

    But, alas – we victims have to wait, for it is not yet our turn, to take a chunk out of satan’s microbes…nanobes
    picobes or femtobes. Evil life get’s smaller…

    I’m looking forward to their DAMNATION ’cause life is short. The destruction of these evil fucks, self serving arseholes – it is forever more. Now that’s entertainment ! – all be it – on the other side – rip & burn.

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 11:21 am

  518. Why forgive the relentless trespasser ?

    Palestine was raided by this mixed media that called themselves JEWS, they came from Russia, Poland and
    many other ‘nations’ of ‘europe’ they were (and are still) funded by American, British and Other “We Wan’t
    In” social climbers with stolen wealth, Intellectual property, etc that think terrorism, thuggery, blackmail and
    manipulation is the norm. They require that the rest of the world sit’s back and agrees – or else – 911 on
    you and yours…

    Last November (2010) I tried a set of questions on a Jew I had known for thirty years (or so I thought) and
    although the technology had been proven, with ongoing developments – I put the same questions to him -
    as I had in 1993, his response was the same, unchanged negative B/S – “It does’nt work, people can get a
    patent on anything, it does’nt mean it works” Look – the US military has heavily invested, now in this stuff –
    The Jew’s Response “So fucking what, listen to what I’m saying – it does’nt mean that it works”

    Why are the JEWS so adamant about the unsucessfulness of electronic harassment devices ?

    Why is the military budget wasting money on EH rock & roll, if it’s useless ?

    Why accept the fate of the life upon this earth, whether human or other when fantacy SYSTEMS by power
    tripping escapists needs a serious set of natural disasters – to reset the course of life as we COULD know it.

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 11:54 am

  519. If ever there was a production, that could have featured organised stalking and electronic
    harassment, well it would have been the Z-FILES, the last line in a news corp attachment
    to entertainment op’s.

    It’s predecessor – the X-FILES only briefly touched on such subjects as EVP (electronic voice
    phen’) not to mention – the big one – REMOTE VIEWING – scully – tests were proving that R.V
    is inconclusive…M.I.T – the ‘borrowing’ of a US NAVY mini submarine and crew…how can we
    get through the water, for reliable comm’s ? 2.2 Hertz is expensive as a carrier frequency
    and we got kicked out of Iowa, Wisc’ and Mich’ ! (That 300 mile long D.C transmittion line
    was perfect, apart from the fatalities using the parallel freeway, they fell asleep – at the
    wheel)

    Why does HOLLYWOOD play down what it is TOTALLY dependant upon ? Yep – real world
    scenarios. I mean what’s in it for their patsy’s (haunted entertainers – acting upon, such lifted
    sorry, those stolen themes…)

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 12:35 pm

  520. OK, OK , so it wasn’t M.I.T.

    That was a privately funded project, that obtained the US NAVY mini submarine for
    keith and russell…and their ongoing, pre X-Files novel…

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 12:44 pm

  521. State/government propaganda invented the word “perp” for deception.
    They are ONLY State/government Secret Police militians/”irregulars” at the orders of Secret Police officers.

    Comment by rscaru — July 17, 2011 @ 12:45 pm

  522. harary & targ ?

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 12:47 pm

  523. “State/government propaganda invented the word “perp” for deception.
    They are ONLY State/government Secret Police militians/”irregulars”
    at the orders of Secret Police officers.”

    PERP + ETRATOR = Perpetrator, one who violates anothers privacy
    and an expanded list of offensive activities, so committed by such
    perverts. PER + VERTS = ? So What are you looking at ?

    So the perversion and protection racket, of the bread winning, bacon
    home bringing activities of HOLLYWOOD are bullshit ? The actress
    of Austrian extraction who co-invented Quad-S (Spread Spectrum – -)
    was not really Hedy Lemarr, but a Milicent, Militian type ?

    Love Educating & Ejecting spent propaganda, especially when the
    going is gone…

    Don’t…

    Comment by Robert — July 17, 2011 @ 1:06 pm

  524. http://francequenneville.blogspot.com/2011/07/denoncez-les_17.html
    Irrelevant [relatively to the gang-stalking] videos are labeled as “gang-stalking”
    as deception relatively to what State/government gang-stalking is.
    Private systematic gang-stalking cannot exist.

    Comment by rscaru — July 17, 2011 @ 7:55 pm

  525. That is exactly the opposite of the truth which you strive so incessantly to suppress.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 17, 2011 @ 10:00 pm

  526. “The truth” is a government concepts.
    Governments pretend to be truth source!
    In fact, they falsify everything, overall their insane crimes.

    Comment by rscaru — July 17, 2011 @ 10:56 pm

  527. “The truth” is a government concept.
    Governments pretend to be truth source!
    In fact, they falsify everything, overall their insane crimes.

    Comment by rscaru — July 17, 2011 @ 10:56 pm

  528. The word: ‘truth’ means: correspondence to reality in assertions. I know about the bullies trailing, surveilling, defaming and haunting me at social functions, and how they organize and are community based within the subculture. I know about bullies in school and the workplace and about neighbor bulling etc. Unfortunately, it really isn’t all that difficult that only the minions of a super villain mastermind could ever pull it off! But personally, as the old joke goes, I can’t get arrested in this town! The government couldn’t care less one way or the other. They scarcely know that I exist! Not every petty sociopath or pawn can draw a CIA paycheck, any more than every junkie mugger can be a Mafioso! There is no pervasive and masterful conspiracy. There is only democratic society and slow progress in coming to grips with all manner of conniving cruelty from time immemorial. All that you flamer and conspiracy nuts are trying to do, is to create a mythic enemy that there is no way to oppose, thereby to discourage targets of bullying from coming together and mounting effective resistance.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 18, 2011 @ 1:48 am

  529. The Gang Stalking Collective action or Hate Crime built in system?

    TARGETED INDIVIDUALS – By this activity innocent people have become unwitting targets of organized crime or government initiatives. They may also simply serve as guinea pigs. They are controlled by monitoring 7 / 7 days – 24 / 24 hours, for years and sometimes for life. Most do not know why it happens to them. And often, when realizing, it’s already too late. It seeks to silence them by discrediting them. In addition, they provided the following treatment: defamation, rejection, scorn, isolation, intimidation, denial of service, harassment, sexual, electronics, and torture. The aim is destruction, all aspects of their lives are affected. They are all at the same time, all the time. These victims are isolated, without support. Why? First, because this phenomenon is unknown to the public, difficult to detect and recognize. In addition, the game consists of these criminals to discredit them, they pose as outcasts. They say for example that he or they are prostitutes, pedophiles, sexual predators, dangerous criminals, mentally ill, vagrants, thieves, etc.. They are desperate to do so. Thus discredited, they were finally isolated and silenced. It’s the perfect crime. But … IT has got to stop!.. http://francequenneville.blogspot.com/2010/12/gang-stalking-collective-action-or-hate.html

    Comment by France Quenneville — July 18, 2011 @ 6:41 pm

  530. I found so many clues, had so many ideas and developed so many theories on the why’s and what-for’s of my personal gangstalking case, it makes me dizzy. Another theory i came across the other day in a forum related to anti-nazi-activism (http://netzwerkrecherche.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/antinazikitz/): a systematic subversion and degradation of targets supposed to have a politically “right” background, combining covert activities of german and foreign forces, as these targets are sold as racist xenophobics to be neutralized by any means. This would fit vaguely into my post-9-11 pattern, my private rants on (the also “supposed”, i’m afraid) djihadist nutcaps were not for the easily offended. But then again, most of the recorded gangstalking victims in germany (80%) are women over 50 years old, a clientel not exactly associated with xenophobic hate crimes. So any theory has it’s weak spot, if one is blinded by the idea of the “one monopolistic gangstalking enterprise”, let it be commercial (as in criminal), political (as in extremist) or private (as in vigilante). There’s far far more to it than just that “white male protestants (aka americans) trying to force their government’s POV on the oh-so helpless rest of the world”-myth! This is a dog-eat-dog covert war on a global scale, with thousands of innocent targets all over the world, sitting in their ordinary homes, wondering why their ordinary fellow folks suddenly turned into a (yes, also!) – ordinary – gangstalking nemesis. An all-too apocalyptic vision, and it fits. Pity the targets, but tables will turn. They always do.

    Comment by Michael — July 19, 2011 @ 12:11 am

  531. After the events of the mid 1970′s to the mid 1980′s a said to myself, if this ever happens again, I will keep my
    opinions to myself but I will act upon a plan to bring these bastards down. They will never do this again, to
    anyone. Michael Gudinsky was financed by Rupert Murdoch the paper trail was constructed by Paul Schindler and I was set up (again) in 1992, the crime was fully underway by 1993 inclusive of illegal wire taps on my phone lines, which doubled as fax lines, as well. The hits and hounding came on thick and fast and I started recording
    and involving independent witnesses, of these relentless attacks. Murdochs ‘News of the World’ was recently
    heavily ‘busted’ for perversion (hacking) into peoples privacy (telecom’s) Murdoch financed Gudinsky to hack
    my private life (to peices) nearly 20 years ago. It’s good to see these bastards being brought down, from the
    top down. Reverse their construction – applied physics 101. Yes, Michael the tables will turn – upside down and down on top of these evildoers. These criminals have nothing to offer, other than land fill, as low grade nutrients.

    Comment by Robert — July 19, 2011 @ 1:15 pm

  532. Yesterday, at the Commons select committee hearing, Murdoch was asked -

    The commission of these phone hacking’s, were you responsible ?

    Murdoch – NO.

    Then who was responsible for these communication’s hacking’s ?

    Murdoch – I think it was the people I trusted and the people they trusted.

    So the classic scenario of pass the blame, down the food chain – no one, of those that are really
    responsible, as they derive healthy financial returns, from their criminal investments, will ever be
    held accountable for their part in such organised crimes. When it is learnt, that this perversion
    (like gang stalking) is feeding a public demand for what is NO ONES BUSINESS, yet the media
    feeds the public, what the public THINKS it wan’ts to make a meal out of.

    This is what requires the resetting of, the sleazy, perverse media mind control programming for
    something that has, at least some healthy, food for thought values.

    The longer the dogs, are only fed bones, then the dogs believe that, that is, all there is to eat.

    Preying upon the lives of those ‘PUT UP’ in the public eye as, of entertainment value, when
    they are little more than programmed ‘puppets’ to maintain public distraction and an
    ongoing exercise in the wasting of one’s time.

    The ongoing, relentless media exposure of peoples lives, whether they are public personalities
    or private persons has become nothing more than a cheap Smorgasboard of un-edible drivel
    so the pen pushers have something to write about and the photographers have something to
    shoot.

    It becomes easier to understand, what the PAPARAZZI really are – HEAVILY FINANCED
    ORGANISED GANG STALKING CRIMINALS, SLEAZES and PERVERTS that would do ANYTHING
    for what could be considered, for most, as UN-NEWS WORTHY crud. The violation of a persons
    privacy, for no good reason, should this really be of interest to us ? What of the evil practice
    of dumping un-wanted public attention, all over someone else – scapegoating of innocent, non
    loud mouth, non-public persons. “It wasn’t me, it was him” “I just made truck loads of money out
    of it”

    Yet what the media have offer, which remains of interest to the public, is all the public knows and little
    else (dogs that only know a diet of bones) as being interesting – spells out – boring punters,
    bordom has become their life, what the media pushers push – seriously lacks sustenance.

    Media comment that tastes and sounds like chicken. – “buck, buck buck, buck” How are the Gang
    Stalking paparazzi going to put a real story together, about a media mogul’s criminal approvals of
    perversion into private lives…if they still wish for their careers, in mainstream media. How could any
    of them, place such (good) shit in their own backyard.

    They are all in on it together, so watch the whole thing ‘GO QUIET’

    Comment by Robert — July 20, 2011 @ 8:56 am

  533. The responsibles for the Paypal-Hack got caught, and the all were minors. That correlates with my idea, that – apart from “Anonymous” being sort of heroes of the hacker scene – a lot of online-crimes related to gangstalking are carried out by “script-kids”, too, with the adults involved (parents?) even praising them for their “successes”, i’m afraid. They get used for stalking purpose, and when it comes to exposure, the adults use the “keen” unattended minors for excuse. It’s a theory, still, but it fits my observation that the kids involved in remark-dropping related to my internet or email activities are just as sadist, obscenely self-righteous and ruthless as theit adult counterfarts.

    Comment by Michael — July 20, 2011 @ 7:48 pm

  534. Children being prep’ed, from a early age to become career criminals, whereby organised gang
    staliking and electronic harassment, to them will be a highly lucrative commercial enterprise.
    The commercial version of the militaries ‘Black Op’s.

    Electromagnetic NLW (Non Leathal Weapons) constructional detail, obtained from the
    declassified information and expired/current patent info that is already found on the internet,
    a whole underworld crime scene fuctioning alongside corrupt politicians, police, business entities,
    paparazzi, etc.

    With so many involved in such an organised crime, it will be unstoppable and totally out of control.
    Innocent people will be set up, for reasons of exploitation, or other purposes and then be accused
    of ‘Thought Crimes’ while some program puts ideas in their head, another set of programs is
    dumped on the minds of those, around the target, to encourage “keeping an eye an them”
    - stalking the target in other words, and the induction of artificial mental illness to finish them
    off via forced big pharma products.

    Comment by Robert — July 21, 2011 @ 10:03 am

  535. It’s the government stupid.

    Comment by govman — July 22, 2011 @ 4:44 am

  536. Most actual victims of these assaults have been neutralized by so-called non-lethal nerve agents, a *fact* that will be known if or when the *truth* is revealed.

    Many other aerosol, contact and food planted chemical agents are being used against persons selected for these torture assaults.

    Sunshine Report – “Another document (available here) reveals the interest of a senior US Army toxicologist in tacrine, a drug used to treat Alzheimer’s Disease. The Army is not interested in the drug, however, for helping disease victims. Rather, it is assessing use of tacrine as a weapon. In February 2002, at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland, the toxicologist ordered a literature review on its potential for weaponization. Chemically, tacrine is a acetylcholinesterase inhibitor, a first cousin of the nerve gases sarin, tabun, and VX (among others).

    Look at all pharmaceuticals considered for weapons research on this study, disregard the “in the field” military delivery methods, the applications in our case are very *personal* as laid out in this blog and others.

    Comment by truth — July 10, 2011 @ 4:42 am

    Comment by billman — July 22, 2011 @ 4:56 am

  537. Let’s not leave out electronic weapons that are being used along with chemical agents.

    Comment by billman — July 22, 2011 @ 5:03 am

  538. After some victims were gassed is when they realised that they could have been or were implanted with electronic devices that are used for “no-touch” torture.

    These are *Nazi like* experiments/weapons applications being secretly/covertly forced on American citizen/victims.

    Assaults of a truly cruel nature that are clearly defined as torture by anyone’s definition.

    Crimes against humanity.

    Comment by truth — July 22, 2011 @ 5:20 am

  539. Randy Quaid…

    Jeremy Blake And Theresa Duncan

    http://nymag.com/news/features/36091/

    Comment by truth — July 22, 2011 @ 5:23 am

  540. Randy Quaid…

    Jeremy Blake And Theresa Duncan

    The powers that be keep pushing this info down, it keeps rising to the top.

    Truth floats.

    http://nymag.com/news/features/36091/

    Comment by truth — July 22, 2011 @ 5:27 am

  541. I rest my case.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 22, 2011 @ 8:23 pm

  542. 536.
    It’s the government stupid.

    Comment by govman — July 22, 2011 @ 4:44 am

    I wish there was a way of removing ‘bad jokes’

    …the government stupid – signed – govman… ha ha..ha ha ha

    you victims, well you should really read my comments after Caresse Henry
    was suicided. She was Madonna’s right hand woman, till she was a threat.

    She knew what they did to me, so did Jamie Fielding before these ‘players’
    were removed… Caresse also knew about the ‘cluster fuck’ that Robert
    Dewey Hoskins, was caught up in.

    http://warofillusions.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/smoking-gun-proof-of-existence-of-voice-to-skull-technology-from-the-us-armys-website/

    I do not hide, behind a hollow suit, I am still ROBERT in the entries. Please
    come back, with any questions about anything I have put forward, regards
    this murderous shit, that continues to go down.

    Comment by Robert — July 23, 2011 @ 12:19 pm

  543. Gang Stalking, has an ongoing entry in organised crime, along with psychological manipulation
    that is, the corporate COMMERCIAL ENTRY. What could be considered ‘Worth living For’ has
    been swamped, with further un-healthy and repetitve suggestion, albeit another clunnie, fruitty
    un- marriageable, (managle…manageable) ar, a wee mangle

    Rhats you’re poision… position,

    Wrath’s you escapism due.

    Comment by Robert — July 23, 2011 @ 12:48 pm

  544. tutt, tutt,

    fuck escapism – it’s highly flammable ?

    thermite, it’s quicker than microsoft.
    nanosoft, it burns like a debt wave…

    Comment by Robert — July 23, 2011 @ 12:54 pm

  545. something that is so small, why,
    would you. not wan’t it to be harder ?

    & the zionist ?

    Anything, only if we can sell it….

    funda-mentalist- schitz – skits,. induction ?
    -exclusion, another escapist rave. Another
    that does’nt do substance ? Do, any of you?

    exchange the de’ rat e

    so be the honest, less obeesse…..O’BEAST

    …such escapist hard life !

    Comment by Robert — July 23, 2011 @ 1:20 pm

  546. seeds, for some un-controlled green house shit, not their’s.

    Comment by Robert — July 23, 2011 @ 1:33 pm

  547. The Space Shit, enterprise

    Like satellites, with short life batteries.

    Expensive Escapism.

    Comment by Robert — July 23, 2011 @ 1:36 pm

  548. Correction: There already is a working WatBack link posted in response.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 24, 2011 @ 12:08 am

  549. What’s wrong with public safety guarding perp squads, if they leave out the most massive threats? Or if they’re really the governement? See, i consider it an international phenomenon, without reservation, i.e, that norwegian assassin would have been a valuable target by all means of “protecting society”, if there’d be some sense about it at all. But he could even post his announcements and advertising on various websites… Sometimes i think it’s really divide and conquer, and the responsible wirepullers give actually a shit on either targets AND perps safety. The only “good” thing about it is, that perps can become targets, too, if masturbating on adult sites and writing private rants on actual threats are fit for the most massive attacks. And again, what’s the point in destryoing the harmless, when there’s really dangerous, society threatening people around? This works only with ratf*cking, and that’s what they’re very good at, but it obviously won’t keep any kind of real imminent danger at bay. Regarding this, it’s still a closed book to me. Somehow i still yearn for reconciliation, or remission, if that’s the proper demand at all, for i am and was neither a threat to society nor will ever be. But then, i already did yearn for that 20 years ago, to no avail. Lately, however, my perps get somehow friendly on me. They kindly ask for directions, copy shops in the area etc. Wonder what this change of attitude means. A fellow gangstalking target from early days on told me, that whenever i do something right, they get angry. Does this include the opposite? Anyone experience with this kind of “climate change”?

    Comment by Michael — July 24, 2011 @ 2:47 pm

  550. And yes, while i’m at it, i recently had a set of 4 short musical beep tunes (like from an early PC’s speaker) on my phone answering machine, namely in the following order:

    (Hang Down Your Head) Tom Dooley
    When The Saints (Go Marching in)
    Ode To Joy
    Greensleeves

    Anyone help me to decipher this? I consider it a murder threat, as the first tune is a song about a delinquent who’s about to face the gallow (though innocent), a gospel funeral march and the Ode To Joy, which means that somebody will be rather happy with all that. So what about Greensleeves, then? I’m not the best in conspirational codes, and the first three “hints” seem rather plain to me. Shines a little light on the “subtleness” of my perps. I just wanted to publish that as long as i’m not six feet under. Phew, it sucks.

    Comment by Michael — July 24, 2011 @ 6:14 pm

  551. Questions from Michael
    What’s wrong with public safety guarding perp squads, if they leave out the most massive threats?

    Answers according to Robert
    It amounts to further proof that the perp’s are criminal entities, with nothing on offer for society, the
    motivations are generally economic and the perp’s could also be regarded as low life thieving scum.

    Or if they’re really the governement?

    If it was the governments of this world, doing this to their own people, then terrorism would be the
    norm. It is mainly corporate level crime. Those behind the technology were not on government
    funding, some of this technology goes back to WW2 – spread spectrum – actress and engineer
    associate invented this technology. They (not the government) acquired the patent (1941)

    See, i consider it an international phenomenon ?

    I agree – multi-national corporate, criminal, thugs. ANYONE with money can access this technology
    hey if you had a credit card you could ‘hire’ satellite surveillance technology, then dispence with the
    ground ‘crew’ GPS systems – not low-jacking a car but a person, something they always carry with
    them – ‘adjusted’ blood chemistry, for example. No I’m not suggesting a ‘barium’ diet – ‘added’

    i.e, that norwegian assassin would have been a valuable target by all means of “protecting society”, ?

    He was another thug, on their side – organised crime – the extreme right, left …whatever. So do
    you think he was a secret government agent, willing to die for what he believes in ? Jack Ruby
    was a dying man when he shot JFK’s alledged assassin. Europe is having difficulty in dealing
    with the Middle Eastern – Mass Exit, Mass Ingress for Europe. What this ‘terrorist’ did was to bring
    common opinion to a tragic begining, making a loud and offensive political statement, IOW. He is
    not alone, in his objection, to the influx of Muslim, Middle Eastern Peoples, however, the way he
    went about it, deserves the death penalty – let him die for his ‘political statement’

    There is no Justifying the establishment of abuse via NLW’s and Gang Stalking. Forget IT !

    Somehow i still yearn for reconciliation, or remission, if that’s the proper demand at all, for i am and
    was neither a threat to society nor will ever be. ?

    Someone is getting off on disturbing you, don’t feed them, they play on your weaknesses for
    kicks and saleable inspiration, why continue to make/preserve their wealth, when you know, you
    would like to see them starving & dying, in the gutter. One day, the victims may have a combined
    weapons defense system, better than, that of the perp’s arse’n'hole. Then the Game is Over !

    Lately, however, my perps get somehow friendly on me ?

    Good Cop, Bad Cop scenario, your better than that after 20 years are’nt you ?

    A fellow gangstalking target from early days on told me, that whenever i do something right,
    they get angry ?

    So one of the perp’s will always LOOSE the bet, they don’t know exactly what you are doing
    but like to play the smart-arse, in thinking they do. Fxck them around, make loud thought
    plans, to do one thing…their bets are down, then go do another. Shit, you might hear
    abuse, from covert – to ballistic in your very neighbourhood ! Set the fuxkers up. Flush them
    out, then down the toilet !

    Well are’nt they full of it ? Prove it to yourself.

    Anyone help me to decipher this? I consider it a murder threat, as the first tune is a song about
    a delinquent who’s about to face the gallow’s ?

    Programs to disturb, deliberately come in all shapes and forms, they like to measure your ‘power’
    of reaction, to their activities. Try to ignore, instead of ‘entertaining’ the focker’s…

    Comment by Robert — July 25, 2011 @ 12:52 pm

  552. Some of you might remember the Port Arthur Massacre of 1996 ?

    This was a method of disarming Australia (starting in Tasmania)

    With the influx of ‘Middle Eastern Appearance’, Muslims into Europe
    the recent terrorist event may be a precursor, a set up, to disturb and
    then disarm parts of Europe.

    My two cents worth.

    Comment by Robert — July 25, 2011 @ 1:21 pm

  553. When GUNS are OUTLAWED, then only OUTLAWS will have GUNS.

    When organised gang stalking is recognised and accepted as an evil reality,
    then only evil reality shows will be accepted as entertaining…

    Comment by Robert — July 25, 2011 @ 1:27 pm

  554. reality is evil – ’cause it hurts…

    Fantacy remains achievable, but the human resources are economically restrained…

    When the last fish’s eggs are ‘caviared’ what of the sprat that were supposed to have
    started up-stream ?

    (A Variation of an earlier Am’ Indian prov’) – Proven….Sad.

    Comment by Robert — July 25, 2011 @ 2:20 pm

  555. The use of ‘cell life’ to aid & assist the imprisoned, in the aging cycle…

    O.K, O.K -so what have we done to each other ? No Hits….um’ must
    be something left, right or whatever – still for sale – according to…
    you, you you you ? Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo’s.

    Comment by Robert — July 25, 2011 @ 2:40 pm

  556. Hyp, not hick,

    subtle suggestion…

    Comment by Robert — July 25, 2011 @ 2:43 pm

  557. @Robert
    Thanks for the help. I know i know, i am better than that after 20-30 years, that’s for sure, but sometimes i just lose it, dammit, as it’s pouring lately, with masses of angled or degrading details of my most private life, (including a visit at a local whore house – big mistake, i know -, stolen emails, letters and age-old backup material from my various PC’s) dragged into public, a cute little death threat and abundant street theater wherever i appear, that even some of the elder perps do consider it ethically questionable, as i overheard a brief smalltalk of two. Piffling ten years, and this previously likable town turned just as rotten as other perp’d regions in germoney. Good to know that i’m not alone in this shitstorm.

    Comment by Michael — July 25, 2011 @ 11:14 pm

  558. Responses (R) – Michael

    (R) I know i know, i am better than that after 20-30 years, that’s for sure, but
    sometimes i just lose it,

    Advice – (unsolicited) (A) – Robert

    (A) When you are subjected to the constant barage (assault) of verbals, agreed – it is hard to avoid
    the interactive comment (your responses) that makes the attack – tolerable, but think about it – if
    you don’t react, in any way, that they have come to expect, man, even if they are dead – don’t
    you think they will loose interest in you ? The Perp’s drivel = (Let’s get out of here…this one is
    dead, there’s nothing left now) so the Gang Stalking Scum are no longer ‘hanging around’ they
    have ‘moved on’…Loosing interest in you is a GOOD thing, ’cause you were’nt selling yourself
    out (entertainer) they were selling YOU out, without your consent and nothing to offer you, for
    their ‘take aways’ – the f’ing poachers.

    P.S – The planet is round. so is the “Shitstorm” – from my own personal experiences, the process
    of relocation to another ‘area’ – country, city, town – suburb. – Their on top of you within a few weeks
    but this depends on how ‘quickly’ they can clear out some rental situation for the purpose of another
    spook house operation. If there is a shortage of rental situations, in your area then they then set out
    to purchase R/E as required.

    Comment by Robert — July 28, 2011 @ 8:58 am

  559. Oh, Michael -

    Another thing, don’t think that isolation, in the country-side, whereby your neighbours are ‘miles away’
    is going to be safer, it makes it worse…because there is no ‘collateral damage’ – that is, other human
    beings anywhere near you – so they can up the ‘intensity’ if you get my meaning ? I found the safest
    places to be the most heavily populated, per square kilometre ! (no wonder everyone wishes to live in
    a big shitty, near the sewerage outfall – the sea)

    Comment by Robert — July 28, 2011 @ 9:16 am

  560. @Robert
    Thx for the advice, Robert! I also tried the countryside 15 years ago, and yes, there’s absolutely no refuge with it. The violations were more ostensible, i.e. with penetrantly dripping bathtub faucet although it was perfectly intact, chairs and table moved arbitrarily when i came home from deliberate random shorttrips to shops and friends, colored stains on the walls and carpet, and “occult”-ish messages written on doorstep – and even in books i read at the time. That was the “era” i developed the further above mentioned obsession with colors and numerologic checksums, much to my perps amusement. Guess i was the perfect target then. Here, they’re always pretty active in street theater and hacking my computer activities on- and offline, so i reckon they already watch this thread here too. However, that very very long timespan in my case (since 1976 in the first place, with enhanced activities 20 years ago) and the various assumed purposes (gaslighting from 1976 – mid-nineties, economic wreckage from mid-nineties until now – supposedly, social destruction and humiliation as revenge for angry reactions on slanderous emails and letter from 2003 until now!) makes it rather unlikely, that it will end soon. Guess every decade i catch another wave of this. Pity.

    Comment by Michael — July 28, 2011 @ 2:15 pm

  561. To Robert: Hey Stupid…

    Comment by govman — July 29, 2011 @ 2:30 am

  562. “I rest my case.”

    “Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 22, 2011 @ 8:23 pm ”

    You don’t have a case Agassi. Never did, never will.

    Comment by govman — July 29, 2011 @ 2:37 am

  563. http://torturedinamerica.org/

    Comment by tortured — July 29, 2011 @ 3:12 am

  564. To Govman -

    Governments don’t target 15 year old boys, without cause.

    ????????????

    Multi-national corporations ARE HOWEVER setting up and
    exploiting ANYONE that produces financial RETURNS.
    The perfect crime –

    They don’t pay for what it is, that they steal.

    1976 – I was 15 years old. They are my earliest memories
    of the gang-stalking and electronic harassment. Back then
    “Why is the stereo system acting like it has a radio reciever
    attached, when it does’nt” I discounted EVP a long time ago.

    Same deal with the P.A. systems of late 1992 & early 1994
    50 Witnesses in 1992 -

    “Talking f-cking shit. Tomorrow, we’re gonna come down their
    and pull the carrier”

    “Get F-cked”

    ” ’cause we can’t hear no-one”

    The PA system did’nt have a radio reciever attached to it
    either. Electronic Harassment & Threats.

    Comment by Robert — July 29, 2011 @ 11:26 am

  565. I was 16 when i got aware of it. Dad was a judge, so the govt is most likely not in the run. And it wasn’t “the people”, either.

    Comment by Michael — July 29, 2011 @ 9:24 pm

  566. Michael, if your house, furniture and posessions are so regularly being messed with, why haven’t you simply planted a webcam to monitor and record?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 30, 2011 @ 6:56 am

  567. Simple, cheap hand held optical ‘viewers’ enable camera optics (lenses, ccd)
    to be spoted, investigated and perhaps avoided. You can’t conceal the camera
    optics, can you ? The perp’s would simply set up another pattern of disturbance
    if camera’s were used. Claims have been made that perp’s can interfere with the
    surveillance, alarms etc. I would not dispute this, computer & telecoms hacking
    seems to be a normal, expected activity from some corporate criminal employers
    these days. Do you think microprocessor based surveillance, alarms and security
    in general would be anymore difficult to interfere with ?

    Blue collar crime – break into a house or business.
    White collar crime – break into phones, security, computers, etc.

    I have found the most effective security systems are the ones that no one else is
    aware of. If you start talking about your methods of catching a perp, usually your
    efforts end up being undermined. Keep your mouth shut, until all your evidence
    is backed up. (Oh, dead hard drive – WTF – how could this happen – & The
    ‘company’ could’nt ‘recover’ the drive’s data – etc) One soon gets damn sick of
    planned ‘failures’ and ‘breakages’

    I have lost many items that had motors and bearings. Not normal failure rates.
    Quality gear like Western Digital hard drives, Panasonic HiFi VHS recorders
    Yamaha multitrack dual speed Compact Cassette recorders. If it has a motor
    and bearings – forget it ! It is like they can tune into it’s resonance and then
    ‘bash’ it at it’s resonant frequency. Presto – dead motor driven system…

    Tapes that no longer are useful, what did they do ? powerful electro-magnetic
    erasure, mould that likes consuming iron oxide ? but, only found in the box with
    the iron oxide based tapes… Talk to a shrink about it, paranoid delusions even
    when you show them the box, with tapes & mould – IOW, don’t bother with such
    talk, they enjoy distorting the facts and playing devil’s advocate.
    “Hey they added some kind of mould to my cassette collection” Now, THEY
    may have, but the shrink isn’t going to go along with this complaint are they ?

    Besides shrinks are not generally qualified to discuss what would be many, the
    types of complaints put forward by T.I’s, these would’nt be seen as ‘normal’
    day to day problems, so encountered – the shrink is trained to see it as
    DELUSION, paranoid delusion. Never accepting the complaint, because the
    complaint is ‘to far’ out of the ordinary – In the shrinks mind –
    “No one could suffer this much bad luck, no one would finance this amount of
    abuse, directed at – a nobody”

    Setting up digital camera’s with external battery power sources, high capacity
    flash memory cards and get this – Go to programming the camera and set the
    auto switch off function to Never and it stops recording after 1.5 hours…

    I had heaps of flash memory left and an almost unlimited reserve of power –
    12V/7Amp hour SLA, fully charged, step down to 5 Volt switching regulator
    followed by a 3 Volt linear regulator.
    It’s a still camera that runs on 3 Volt – Lithium or 3 Volt DC from external
    power source. The power supply that I made for it was better than anything
    that could be bought – squeaky clean. I went for a different approach, metal
    enclosures, thick lead glass, well screened in other words – think paranoid
    and come up with solutions, to defend against their attacks. Note – some
    of this comment is real, some is fiction – my methods of disturbing the
    disinfo agents – more delusion, paranoia ? another cup of tea perhaps ?

    Another Movie Maybe ? NO, my friends, they are not, nor are they in my head.
    This person is not my friend, here is a movie of him pulling my car tyre valves with
    pliers. This was on two separate occasions – nearly two weeks apart. How much
    evidence can one T.I. collect before the authorities have NO CHOICE other than
    accepting the T.I’s complaint and evidence ? Here is another video of a person
    searching for a spare key around my front door. What about this guy – trying to
    push the door in ? check out how it is moving the camera, fixed to the back of
    the door.

    You can go to extraordinary lengths to nail these bastards, catching them in
    the act of interfering, only to suffer an ongoing trail of investigative misadventure,
    equipment failures and ‘ordered’ bad luck. Even when you come up with some
    item of evidential value, show the captured evidence – only to hear a response
    like – “I thought that, he/she was your friend” Comments like that, were not
    intended to hurt, but they do.

    “They moved in to the neighborhood, about two weeks after me, they had to get
    rid of the existing tenant, in the house across the street, the only house nearby
    that was a rental situation.”

    Comment by Robert — July 30, 2011 @ 12:36 pm

  568. @Aaron
    The most disarrangement occured in the nineties, when i lived in the country. However, I did plant a webcam, but to no avail. They “knew”, and did not appear. Same here, i planted a webcam and let it run whenever i went away. Nil happened, so i negelected it sooner or later – but guess what, the intrusions start again as soon as i get negligent. So i just had it, lately. Yesterday i came home not too late, and the lights in the windows were lit. Just a little reminder of their ongoing presence. They’re in my and my girlfriends house with high tech, i suppose, mini-cams or even more elaborate sh*t, dunno, so what can i do. I recently bought a bug finder, runs up to 3,5 Ghz, (no high end device, my means are restricted) but the only thing it “detects” are running mains adapters – all mains adapters, however, even behind drawers or under the bed, where cameras are pointless. No phone tap detected, nor anything else like vid-cam emitters running at 6 Ghz. Waste of money. Proper counter-surveillance gear against contemporary means is obscenely expensive, i guess thats volitional.
    @Robert
    [quote] You can go to extraordinary lengths to nail these bastards, catching them in the act of interfering, only to suffer an ongoing trail of investigative misadventure, equipment failures and ‘ordered’ bad luck.[end quote]
    I can fully attest to this, it’s Don Quichotte against the “windmills”. Incidentally, Don Quichotte could be the very patron-saint of T.I.s

    Comment by Michael — July 30, 2011 @ 2:04 pm

  569. Problem Here Michael -

    “bug finder – Runs up to 3,5 GHz”..”nor anything else like vid-cam emitters running at 6 GHz”

    The obvious – you have no chance of finding video camera transmitters, that are approaching
    anything like 6 GHz, commonly 5.8 GHz with a ‘bug finder’ which is a wide band reciever, if it is
    limited to 3.5 Gig bandwidth. The emissions from the mains adapters could be their switching
    frequency noise, the sheilding on these things is minimal, that is if your talking ‘wall-wart’ style
    ‘plug-packs’ as in step down AC mains power to Low Voltage DC type devices.

    Cleaning up the electrical smog in your area is a great idea, swapping switching wall warts
    for the transformer based (old school) technology, turning off the cordless phone, unless
    absolutely necessary, and only as such, it’s use. The Cordless phone’s base station is a
    real bad source of Microwave radiation.

    I did this cleaning up, of the immediate area and shortly afterwards the perp across the road
    had a WiFi network transmitter/reciever system installed in his roof – 2.4 GHz – to cater for
    anyone within a kilometre radius that wished to go WiFi instead of ‘landline’ for internet
    access. This installation – what a coincidence, or for better words – what a great masking
    system, for perp operations using DEW’s. No council approvals were required and I have
    no course of complaint. This thing is less than 50 Metres from me, the perp replaced his
    ceramic tiles with corrugated steel roofing – effective shielding

    Microwave harassment makes use of around 2.4 GHz, the resonant frequency of water – a
    large % of the human being’s living existence. With all this WiFi sh-t, how do we catch perp
    zapping us at a similar frequency, complete with the same ‘Hedy Lamarr’ spread spectrum
    technology ?

    Comment by Robert — July 30, 2011 @ 3:40 pm

  570. Michael, maybe what would be best for you might be a dummy camera just to scare away pranksters.

    Comment by iAaron Agassi — July 31, 2011 @ 5:42 am

  571. Yeah, you guys got it all. not.

    Quote – “sunshine report – Most actual victims of these assaults have been neutralized by so-called non-lethal nerve agents, a *fact* that will be known if or when the *truth* is revealed.

    Many other aerosol, contact and food planted chemical agents are being used against persons selected for these torture assaults.

    Sunshine Report – “Another document (available here) reveals the interest of a senior US Army toxicologist in tacrine, a drug used to treat Alzheimer’s Disease. The Army is not interested in the drug, however, for helping disease victims. Rather, it is assessing use of tacrine as a weapon. In February 2002, at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland, the toxicologist ordered a literature review on its potential for weaponization. Chemically, tacrine is a acetylcholinesterase inhibitor, a first cousin of the nerve gases sarin, tabun, and VX (among others).

    Look at all pharmaceuticals considered for weapons research on this study, disregard the “in the field” military delivery methods, the applications in our case are very *personal* as laid out in this blog and others.” end quote

    Comment by email — July 31, 2011 @ 6:35 am

  572. Hey dude, these constant posters are faction government posters working to bury the truth. It’s their job.

    Comment by email — July 31, 2011 @ 6:39 am

  573. Quote from Agassi -
    “Michael, maybe what would be best for you might be a dummy camera just to scare away pranksters.”

    @ Agassi – You still don’t quite understand ‘stalking’ yet, do you? These creeps get in your head and
    see through your eyes, what do you know of remote viewing ? – remote viewers get inside ‘anyones’
    head to see what’s happening, somewhere else – in the ‘target area’ and don’t care for how much pain
    and discomfort they cause the person, that they just jumped on. You should have a look at the work
    Keith Harary & Russell Targ @ SRI. – starting in the 1970′s, there’s a couple of names to go ‘fetch’ info
    on…. These names should ring a bell with regards black ops and DEW’s, to those that have done their
    homework

    Harary was also behind the developement and ongoing testing for Non-Lethal Weapons (NLW’s) such as
    Microwave – he probably will end up getting a job at Ratheon, if he isn’t already on their advisory
    board…

    This does’nt mean that such ‘crafts’ are all military related, other way around – the military show interest
    in these things, sometimes investing in it’s ongoing research. If remote viewing was never proved as
    even remotely possible (no pun intended) then how come many T.I’s complain about the running
    commentation, about what the T.I is doing, etc by the perps (mind moles – psych perverts)

    Quote from email -
    “Yeah, you guys got it all. not.

    Quote – “sunshine report – Most actual victims of these assaults have been neutralized by so-called non-lethal nerve agents, a *fact* that will be known if or when the *truth* is revealed.”

    @email
    The truth according to who, disinformation agents, trowling the net ?

    Now why would they ‘neutralize’ someone they ‘set up’ and ‘wired up’ for the purpose of exploitation ?
    Have they finished with them ?

    Another quote from email -
    “Hey dude, these constant posters are faction government posters working to bury the truth. It’s their job”

    @email
    I prefer exposing those that have been, or still are, on government hand-outs –
    Harary – NLW’s developement.
    Ratheon – NLW’s manufacturer.

    Comment by Robert — July 31, 2011 @ 9:23 am

  574. Actually -

    I think it was Russell Targ that was researching Microwave NLW’s, my bad.

    But it does’nt really matter, they are both into this head game sh-t, the
    book is called – The Mind Race authors are Targ & Harary. If these guy’s
    are fruit-loops, why would the US-Navy loan them a mini sub & crew ?
    and why is Targ scoring points on NLW – Microwave developements ?

    This should flush out some more disinfo agents into active duty ! (To
    play it down)

    I answered these Q’s elsewhere on the net, V2K Smoking Gun – WordPress,
    about fatalities of innocent folk on parallel stretches of highway with a
    ‘borrowed’ High Power D.C. transmission line that the Navy was dumping
    their ELF upon. They (US Navy) wan’t alternative means of communicating
    with their submerged ones…

    Comment by Robert — July 31, 2011 @ 10:40 am

  575. 2.2 hertz is v e r y S L O W

    Like trees talking to each other…

    Comment by Robert — July 31, 2011 @ 10:48 am

  576. If you get ‘zapped’ by 2.2 Hertz, you won’t hear it coming, it’s effect is on your feelings –
    ‘rock a bye baby, from the tree top’ – chronic fatigue – you fall asleep.

    2.2 Hertz is Delta brain wave activity, which is reported as 0.1Hz (near death) to around
    3 Hertz or, if you like – not much activity (he/she is a little slow – c’mon wake up dude)
    hope I got the message across.

    Mental manipulation could be assisted by drugs & drugings (psychiatry) but
    the use of electromagnetic radiation – silent, quick (or slow) kills, manipulation
    of thought & bodily functioning leaves no evidence.

    “If you can’t feel, taste, smell, hear or see it, then it is all in your mind” – also the opinion of psychiatry, making sugestions of ‘not reality’ – based on the their below average (by design) intelligence. Not to mention their applied ignorance, of which they FORCE Legally – their opinions, in their cowardly numbers… effectively
    protecting the perp scum. F-ck I would like to damage these c-nt’s ‘reality’ but I’m not a Dog. I’m a Rat.

    How Dare they enforce their Dreams ? Power tripping trash. – Blame Religion Again ?
    Do they still wan’t to play GOD ? Why ? they are dumb shit. If GODS work by force
    then they are not gods, they are DOGS (False Gods) Hey it’s Sunday Somewheres !

    Comment by Robert — July 31, 2011 @ 11:29 am

  577. Ratheon Mindset -

    1975 – the latest in quad op-amp developement

    Presenting the – RC4136 ?

    comments from the tech’s – “You know it’s a Ratheon device, when
    the power point’s are’nt exactly centered, about the device’s area.

    That’s Biased !

    Comment by Robert — July 31, 2011 @ 12:34 pm

  578. Do you do Programming ?

    No, but I would like to specialize in hits…

    Comment by Robert — July 31, 2011 @ 12:43 pm

  579. Robert, I do grock stalking. I just believe that, unfortunately, it’s simple and easy enough for nobodies and seemingly with utter impunity, all entirely without requiring more exotic explanation. Sheer assumption otherwise is crazy, and any actual pretense or deliberate suggestion otherwise is just part of the mindfuck. -As you may recall, Parsimony of Explanations, also called: Occam’s Razor.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — July 31, 2011 @ 2:39 pm

  580. With or without remote viewing: it’s a really bad idea to surf porn sites, download adult pics or visit a bordello, if gangstalkers are out to ruin one’s rep. I naively did so – thus reaping the rewards now.

    (not) the only pity here: there are so many people under unlawful surveillance who don’t even know about it. Some are even perpetrated and consider it a series of bizarre coincidences, constant bad luck or the like.

    Just in (the most likely) case, someone being perp’ed and somewhat testosterone-struck reads all this – refrain from the above! Ordinary intercourse and wet dreams – that’s all i can recommend. “I must caution you that anything you express, visit or download online, can be, and will be, taken down and used arbitrarily against you, when- and wherever your gangstalking community considers fit.” Even if it’s more or less unspectacular material of adults having fun, just don’t suppose the public will be lenient let alone on your side when organized degraders slam shut. I’m not overly religious, it’s just my experience, that they collect, misrepresent and publish any and every moves and motives.

    Comment by Michael — July 31, 2011 @ 7:03 pm

  581. B4 i forget: they produce big scenarios out of petty data, see above. It’s “the mix”, like they once told me. Political spin-doctoring to the target’s disadvantage is one of their main fields of play. Never download Breivik’s manifesto or “Das Kapital”, or rant about the failed migration politics in germany or simply call it germoney or condemn islamist extremism or question the 9/11 massacre – they will label you accordingly, even if it’s contradictory. One sauce fits all. They just want you off the grid, no matter how farfetched the thrown manure may be. And as long as you produce output they can use, you’re dutiful. If you fail to do so, they produce output with unpleasant or angled events to put you on the wrong track – i.e. foreigners of darker complexion start to act strangely whenever you pass by, letting you rant about “all those misbehavin’ foreigners from xyz”, when you come home, thus you’re a xenophobic nazi. And don’t try to figure out what their inducement might be, anything you come up with will be used…. see above. In my case, during a doctor’s visit in a clinic i presumed two women behind it, which i approached disrespectful and indecently – in a drunk and med’ed state, almost 30 years ago. Though there was witness who could ease my affliction in that it was no major offence in their notice – i don’t remember sh*t -, the perps immediately got hold of the medical record – they always do – and now they’re selling me as a rapist, too. Nazi, closet communist, unemployed psychopath parasitic wanker, rapist – thank you very much. A dangerous rep for such a notably harmless person like me.

    Comment by Michael — July 31, 2011 @ 8:43 pm

  582. What character assassins can’t dig up, they simply invent. This is nothing new.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 1, 2011 @ 8:27 am

  583. There’s nothing new under the sun, but it can’t be straightened out too sufficiently: some targets don’t get to which tremendous extent they’re gangstalked. They can’t take it in that these character assassins are actually out to DESTROY them, simply because it won’t fit their learned set of ethical values, that being innocent is a moral asset. So they “blank it out” to feel less threatened. I did so, and so do hundreds if not thousands of other targets. That’s only natural, but precarious. Imho the largest source of needless trouble – next to direct perp activities.

    Comment by Michael — August 1, 2011 @ 11:00 am

  584. Quote from Michael – “Nazi, closet communist, unemployed psychopath parasitic wanker, rapist –
    thank you very much. A dangerous rep for such a notably harmless person like me”

    It is interesting to note, this is exactly what they do. Perp’s move in on top of you, or very close
    by – in your neighborhood. As soon as the oppurtunity arrises, the perps cut a B Line straight at
    you, then start spreading rumours about you, yet you remain oblivious, to these.

    You are a person that they have never met before. All they required was that you entered into
    some social talk with them, or their associates.

    People, that you don’t know, in your neighborhood then start looking sideways at you,
    misadventures and bad luck starts happening, eventually you learn it is deliberate, then you
    start to wonder why. (Gang Stalking is a social disease, but there is no big pharma products
    to treat or control it… The victims are mis-diagnosed, mis-treated and abused instead)

    Eventually you find out what the rumour is – “He’s a drug dealer” – for another
    example, apart from those already mentioned by Michael.

    Then guess what the perp’s are ? Yep – Drug Industrialists, not dealers, underneath their house
    is being used as an area for drying Marijuana, it is being grown elsewhere as well as the process
    of weighing and packaging and dealing at street level. Such organised crime is distributed about
    the community, family businesses – that is organised crime hiding behind the image of ‘the innocent
    young family’ Meanwhile the neighborhood maintains a vigil watch over you, not them.

    When clearly in the neighborhood, you are not a drug dealer, more rumours are distributed by
    those that are involved in the illicit substances industry. Like – ” We are associated with king pin
    dealers and they own the city ”

    Makes one wonder why there isn’t more Mexican style culling programs in place, when this occurs.
    The average life of a drug dealer in Mexico is quite short. Vigilante killing’s and persecution is
    offset by scapegoating and the manufacturing of patsies, in countries outside of Mexico. So they
    make use of the potential gang stalking groups, that may exist, or could be formed in your area.

    Organised Gang Stalking groups get set upon the innocent, the guilty go free to commit more crimes.
    When the Org’ Gang Stalkering groups realise that they have been bullsh-tted, they wan’t to make like
    doctors and bury their mistakes. It is highly unlikely that they are going to say anything, to anyone
    about such mistakes, especially in a country where gang stalking and intimidation is punishable under
    law.

    So motivations can be to dump un-wanted attention on someone closeby, they are subject to the
    unlawful surveillance and gang-stalking, as they were at previous locations. The single male
    (or female) becomes the patsy. Organised crime functions right under the noses of those behind
    the surveillance and gang-stalking while true crime nearby isn’t noticed. A bad old joke – “If you
    wish to commit a crime, do it outside a police station – it’s the last place the cops would look”

    Simple explanation ? Simple enough Aaron ? – “Occam’s Razor”

    It is IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND some of the many reasons behind organised gang stalking,
    this shed’s light on why prosecutions are rare, community fear – of the perp’s that got the blood
    of the innocents, on the communities hands…the snow ball effects of rumour speading, till it gets
    to big to stop. When an innocent was set up by drug dealer scum, the community lives in fear.
    Crimes by Association.

    Comment by Robert — August 1, 2011 @ 11:36 am

  585. I entirely agree with the assessment of your last post, Michael. Unrelenting malicious gossip destroys lives. Again, it is only the fantastic and the bigoted urban mythology with which I take issue. And Robert, yes, criminals and bullies seek vulnerable targets. And yes I see no reason why anyone at any one time could both running a Meth lab and gang stalking, indeed it doesn’t seem incongruous or unlikely. But of course I would tend to doubt that such must always be the case.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 1, 2011 @ 11:57 am

  586. Gossip and slanders are created AFTER that government has selected you as a target and are used as a “justification” …and for making you creating paranoias and believing that casual gossips and slanders are at the root of “obscure forces’” gang-stalking.
    It is everything organised! …and from State/government.
    No gossip or slander can really justify any government gang-stalking and no gossip or slander is at the root of gang-stalking operations.
    Private gang-staking does not exist. If not led from Secret Police officers (at institutional orders), other people and gangs woulds have no time and energies to gang-stalk targets and they could be easily put in jail if they really were independent.

    Comment by rscaru — August 1, 2011 @ 12:27 pm

  587. PS. Yes, while scapegoarting the innocent, criminal circles and cliques of bullies alike, tend to shelter and abet evil doers, indeed thereby attracting ever more dangerous predators into our communities.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 1, 2011 @ 12:29 pm

  588. No rscaru. The government is not in charge of all meanness.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 1, 2011 @ 12:34 pm

  589. Drug dealing is organised crime, but it is community financed – part of the socio economic climate of today.
    The CIA are criminals and their crimes were sanctioned at political and military levels. So what ? that
    makes their recorded activities socially acceptable ?

    Religion could be considered organised crime, because all we see is ongoing wars, based on religious indifferences. “Lets have a war over delusions, dreams and beliefs” – highly competitive stuff.
    NO WINNERS in that WAR GAME

    Gang Stalking Vigilante groups may indeed be made up of people that have lost their loved ones to drugs
    and so what better group of individuals to make use of by creating a patsy, to distract from illicit substance
    organised crime groups. Of course those that have lost loved ones to substance abuse would indeed have
    a vocal opinion on drug dealers, and drug industry criminals would have burning ears, for such opinions.

    These gang stalking vigilante groups feel, in their numbers – unstopable, this would certainly appear to
    be the case. But how easily manipulated they could have been… So how difficult it would be to prosecute
    such a large number of misguided fools, that caused the death of an innocent, that was set up.

    Comment by Robert — August 1, 2011 @ 12:55 pm

  590. Robert, I had not considered that vigilante gang stalkers might have actually lost loved ones to drug abuse. It should come as little surprise that I question their good faith and would expect that anyone with at all genuine civic mindedness would find more legitimate and effective outlets in the fight against crime. In any case, I take it that you do not speak of all vigilantes or gang stalkers and their varied motivations, however Sadistic and/or misguided. Nor do I defend government malfeasance simply because I do not buy into pervasive conspiracy and associated urban mythologies. But I whole heartedly agree with you regarding the difficulty of ever taking each and every one of them to task before the law. Nevertheless I continue to believe that if only anyone would organize against them, bullies and thugs can be thwarted and exposed significantly, and that communities can learn to be more bully proof. This would also serve as better safe guard for democracy at the grass roots against future tides of rising Fascism.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 1, 2011 @ 1:48 pm

  591. Individual stalking is not gang-stalking.
    If it is individual, there is no government involvement.
    Individual gossips and slanders do not really ruin your life… …Nobody worries…
    When government is involved, at least one [secret] police officer contacts and organizes people of your area/building, working places, schools etc and later receives daily and weekly reports from some of these irregulars. If the target is really “important”, external help (other louses) is sent. Louses of your living place are provided with illegal devices for watching through walls and so implement targeted noises etc.

    There are special sections of the FBI [and equivalent in other States/countries] for such operations. They have special powers and they can take over everything and everybody.

    They use irregulars ["normal" louse] because they are illegal operations. It is NOT police surveillance et similia. These are illegal State/government activities. It is State Terrorism.

    In practice, the Secret Police officers can legally commit crimes. However, the irregulars are not legally covered. They are covered from the Secret Police officer, who can give orders to judges and normal police.
    One cannot suit a Secret Police officer.
    One can suit (if one had decisive evidence; what they try to avoid you can have) the louses.

    The only way is public denunciation, with names, addresses pictures.
    They have orders not to react to your public denunciations. Of course, do not “strike” innocent people. If one casually suits you [what is really very rare if you act carefully and without persona paranoias], either he/she is innocent or used&dismissed.

    http://twitpic.com/photos/rscaru

    Comment by rscaru — August 1, 2011 @ 2:14 pm

  592. Quote from Aaron -

    “Robert, I had not considered that vigilante gang stalkers might have actually lost loved ones to drug abuse. It should come as little surprise that I question their good faith and would expect that anyone with at all genuine civic mindedness would find more legitimate and effective outlets in the fight against crime”

    Legit sources, for the fight against crime does’nt exist, when the crime is government sanctioned drug crimes.
    If drug related crimes are’nt government sanctioned, then why are the drug laws maintained ? The laws
    that are in place, to encourage crime – of an economic circular type.

    Those, that have lost loved ones to substance abuse, may have tried legitimate methods and realized that
    they were beating their heads against the wall. Isn’t it concievable that they got together, with a hidden
    agenda on how to handle drug related crime, the criminals then aware of this started the activities of scapegoating ?

    Civic Mindedness –
    It went out the window, for a lot of these victims, when they failed to get the legal compassionate and proper
    understanding from society generally. Then maybe they were robbed, by a junky needing money to score
    and keeping the entire cycle alive, or should I say – the drug economy.

    Isn’t it easy to understand, that all these people have is each other, as victims of government sanctioned
    crimes. These crimes would’nt exist if the ecomomic incentive was stripped from the equation.
    It is very easy to understand how this COULD be one angle, of many, behind vigilante gang stalking.
    There are obviously other motives, this could be just one of the many, for how gang stalking is running,
    un-lawfully – out of control.

    Comment by Robert — August 1, 2011 @ 2:24 pm

  593. rscaru, I reject your false binary dichotomy between individual stalking and slander vs. governmentally coordinated harassment. Even the pettiest and most obscure bullies and criminals typically cooperate very effectively. That is their one tremendous advantage! Crime and bullying indeed are often community based. And Robert, conceding entirely the calamitous folly of the War on Vice along with the magnitude of corruption engendered, if there really where no resistance to crime at all, things’d really be getting Hobsian!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 1, 2011 @ 3:27 pm

  594. Vigilante gang stalking is not government funded. The government would have to fund quite a heapload of freelancing bullies which is most unlikely, they already fund their own raiders. That’s why i come back to my multi group theory: there’s vigilantes f*cking with presumed or factual thugs, there’s the funsters – “Look mom, we’re gangstalking this crappy dude here!” – “Alright, you’ll be home by 9, will ya!”, the law-and-order-fraction – same as vigilantes but more generalized with everybody under general suspicion, the organized crime – to whatever purpose fit, crooked “law” schemings (see above) etc. etc. It’s a zeitgeist disease with evil in superior position – as long as the swindle ain’t busted, that is. We need whistleblowers from the gang stalking community, i reckon. There’s hardly something else worth considering.

    Comment by Michael — August 2, 2011 @ 11:48 am

  595. One targetted individual claims to have hired a Private Investigator to infiltrate gang stalking, with encouraging results.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 2, 2011 @ 12:03 pm

  596. Secret Police can easily blackmail a private detective.
    Either he/she cooperates or he/she’ll loose his/her license.

    Comment by rscaru — August 2, 2011 @ 12:53 pm

  597. Irregulars are not founded “from government”.
    They are rewarded (or not damaged) in other ways.
    Secret Police officers use people cannot deny their cooperation.
    A lot of people and groups simply cannot say “no”.
    Unbelievable, but it works in such a way… plus the propension of people to commit crimes and insanities when they feel covered from power. People do not want to cooperate may generally leave the operations’ theater, if it is possible. Differently they must cooperate, if indispensable.

    Comment by rscaru — August 2, 2011 @ 1:00 pm

  598. @rscaru
    See, whenever there’s “private” gangstalking – and the numbers go up vividly – secret police may not always interfere, as they just can’t be everywhere. A lot of this runs undetected from police whatsoever – it has to be, so it is. The trained eye may perceive various typical occurrences – like more and more targets trying to file gangstalking charges against unknown – or characteristic traits and patterns of target’s or perp’s behaviour all over town, but it’s rather unlikely that the govt interferes in most cases. It’s true, however, that ordinary “people .. commit crimes and insanities when they feel covered from power”. There’s a good german movie depicting that, “The Experiment, 2001, directed by Oliver Hirschbiegel” (forget a bout the 2011 US remake), based on an actual scientific test,, leaving nothing undepicted.

    @Aaron
    Hiring a private eye is like ordering meds w/o prescription via internet – it may work, or it may not work. Either way, a lot of money is gone. And not everybody can afford spotters. I actually would, if i only could.

    I still believe that sooner or later the first whistleblowers will bring up the case in public, to vast extent. This is big news, if there’s evidence, and the papers won’t refrain from telling – see the News-Of-The-World scandal. There was a leak, however, who died prematurely under usual “unsettled circumstance”. Pity. Another unsung hero, and an obvious deterrence for other perps with remorse: “Kill one, educate hundred.”

    Comment by Michael — August 2, 2011 @ 1:53 pm

  599. Ah yes, and then they killed Amy Winehouse, to have Murdoch off the public’s focus.

    Comment by Michael — August 2, 2011 @ 1:55 pm

  600. There is much that private citizens can undertake in cooperation together, even before breaking the piggybank and passing round the hat to hire a P.I., if only we find the will.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 2, 2011 @ 2:34 pm

  601. Not to sound defeatist, but first you have to find bird of feather that are not fake, and i bet perps just wait for the occasion to spy on target alliances, just like they do infiltrate all kinds of 12-step self help groups. There’s just one definite target i came across in a clinic during all these years – true contact ist more or less scarce.

    Comment by Michael — August 3, 2011 @ 7:06 am

  602. We got’sta learn our spycraft!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 3, 2011 @ 8:36 am

  603. Hiring a private eye would be like hiring a prosecution attorney, those with the money – they have the power
    and morality has nothing to do with it. It is a corrupt world we live in, when decent honest people complain
    about being exploited, set-up, mis-diagnosed, cheated, poisoned (psychiatry holds those five cards) AND
    we have no re-course to challenge this system, we are driven into isolation and wedges are driven into any
    victim’s social groups. Even when you have evidence, names, motivations for such crimes, you will be told
    “you can’t beat the system”

    There are methods, without resorting to acts of terrorism, that could be used to promote attention to a
    worthwhile cause, case by case. What happens to psychiatry, when numerous complainants CAN expose
    the corruption within this ‘fringe’ health service ? Ans – REFORM, and if the lazy, lard arse f.ckers are’nt
    interested – LAW SUITS for deliberate misdiagnosis. Reform first.

    Comment by Robert — August 3, 2011 @ 1:23 pm

  604. Isn’t it rather odd that they call psychological manipulation – Brain Washing
    when psychological manipulation is programming. Psychiatry talks about
    the reinforcement of ‘reality’ but uses chemical substances to remove
    trains of thought.

    SO -

    Programming = Psychological Manipulation.
    &
    Psychiatry = Brain Washing (Program Removal)

    Comment by Robert — August 3, 2011 @ 1:41 pm

  605. Entertainment, the arts – Where is the PROGRAM guide ?

    Comment by Robert — August 3, 2011 @ 1:51 pm

  606. Neverending…….

    it ends soon with Rh negative

    Are You ??

    Comment by nodragon — August 3, 2011 @ 10:47 pm

  607. Most do not know that as Rh Oneg individuals, they are tracked throughout their whole lives by world-wide governmental agencies interested in understanding the genesis of this group, and for other more complex societal purposes.

    http://www.anomalog.com/

    Comment by nodragon — August 3, 2011 @ 10:53 pm

  608. A direct answer to a mail i sent to myself at 10:39 pm “What can i do to make this all end?”
    Tried to test a truecrypt encoded password safe for my email account… Guess it must have been the IMAP protocol that sold me out. Or the electromagnetic output of my keyboard strokes entering my truecrypt password? New neighbors above, to left and right. Whackamole, no way…
    Now they scare the shit out of me with international organ traffickers waiting for my moribund bowels – if i’m 0 Rh neg, that is… Another example of how quick they (sometimes) are, how perfidiously and how omnipresent. It’s really a zeitgeist disease, with poisoned minds galore. Pity.

    Comment by Michael — August 4, 2011 @ 12:11 am

  609. I share you’re opinion, watch out for the ‘new’ neighbors. A hacker moved in next door and proceeded
    to complain about the quality of the land line connection, for his internet access. Various ‘approved’
    technicians turned up, in the marked vans and then a line tech that ‘disturbed’ my com’s connection
    turned up in an un-marked van, said he was a contractor and his regular van was in for service. I did’nt
    ask for I.D. when my service “dropped” out for a half hour or so. I was’nt that concerned back then, so
    I guess, I was caught off-guard…

    Ever since then I pick up the handset and there is sometimes, a very length delay before I get dial tone.
    Sometimes I look at the phone and one of the red l.e.d’s is illminated, I pick up the handset and the
    line is dead, with no noises.

    The ADSL service that I have, it ALWAYS downloads in short packets due to contamination or bad data.
    I guess it is possible that the lard arse next door has a computer system that is piggy-backed onto mine…
    It has been about 4 years since that un-marked telecom technician’s van opened up the street ‘pit’
    connection box.

    Comment by Robert — August 4, 2011 @ 7:07 am

  610. Michael -

    Forget about counting key strokes and encrypted pass words. think more about the packets
    of data you send and recieve, what is to stop this bi-direction data from being ‘read’ on another
    computer system ? all internet traffic is NOT encrypted and so ‘open’ information. Try this
    experiment – Visit a site like ‘Totse’ or ‘Science Madness’ and nothing happens (hopefully) watch
    what happens when you ‘sign up’ to such forums ! Next you’ll have the gang stalking perps
    calling out your user name (on one of THOSE sites) even when you have NEVER posted !

    Comment by Robert — August 4, 2011 @ 8:45 am

  611. If they have an encryption system, that works, then they must have it on a ‘rolling code’ structure, so
    rolling codes and randomness can be intercepted, then the fuzzy logic was a logical projection after
    all…rolling randomness developes a pattern, as only those numbers fall, then repeat. So much for
    randomness…Security Systems that are impossible to beat = B/S, hackers continue to prove this.

    The most secure, security system available is the one that YOU designed, but only for your use.

    Comment by Robert — August 4, 2011 @ 9:06 am

  612. “Various ‘approved’ technicians turned up, in the marked vans”

    This is one of their criminal methods. Generate an excuse to have your services ‘disturbed’
    whereby you are’nt initially worried, because they told you to expect ‘investigations’ so you don’t
    pay much attention to the ‘wild card’ out of the pack, when it shows up – “Oh, just another tech
    trying to sought out next doors problem”

    Understanding their methods – continued.

    Comment by Robert — August 4, 2011 @ 9:26 am

  613. Trust No One, they are all gang stalking, programmable homo sapien, until proved otherwise.

    Comment by Robert — August 4, 2011 @ 9:37 am

  614. So my ‘land-line’ has, and is being ‘hi-jacked’ and improper information is being supplied
    to so called “law enforcement” AKA – gang stalkers to maintain a set-up.

    This is Not to destroy – but to exploit.

    I was charged with communications offences, in 1993 for my comments to an attorney, about
    apprenhended violence orders – “Oh year – restraining orders – to piss a male off, when
    you have finished, abusing them…” the discussion was about the deliberate use, of the
    law, for unlawful purpose.

    What I had to say was recorded, on a womans answering machine (apparently) then it
    was transcribed, apparently by the woman and the written words were used in a court
    of law against me. Yet all I had done was help this woman. Later on – I found out she
    was part of an “entertainment industry” family operation

    Simple -

    A set-up through the misuse of private communications, opinions that were intercepted
    and used (out of context) elsewhere, designed to promote a complainant – By a Patsy,
    to the authorities. It is so easy to set someone up like this, but the stone age romeo’s
    would rather be cleansed by fire – the product of – “lack of reform” = TERRORISM.

    When the terrorism is internationally financed, it is called economic stimulation.

    Comment by Robert — August 4, 2011 @ 10:24 am

  615. Oh. c’mon man – reform is out of the question, what are the boys & girls in uniform gonna’ do ?

    Answer -

    Get a real and contributing occupation, you tax collectors !

    Comment by Robert — August 4, 2011 @ 10:36 am

  616. IOW -

    You get all these unit’s, who’s primary (paid) occupation is defense – was it personal ?
    (a bad investment, here or there) never considering that crime is totally preventable.

    So what, a few percent of the planets population, are no longer ‘superior’ …no one
    could fund, the funds – dude.

    Comment by Robert — August 4, 2011 @ 11:10 am

  617. Someone (now deceased) they once said (to me) “you’ve got no idea, have you, about
    money and it’s power” ?

    I said – “So long as the money isn’t derived from re-sales”. WHAT ARE WE DOING TO EACH
    OTHER ? Planned Failure, False Economies…Escapism that is respected (for the wrong
    reasons)

    What when the Bird Stops Singing, Dude ? Was it something that, you thought, would remain
    saleable ? . . . .like, when the last fish is caught…

    Comment by Robert — August 4, 2011 @ 11:27 am

  618. “So long as the money isn’t derived from re-sales”.

    So, who’s gunna’ enforce it dude ? …We’re waiting,
    Oh, yeah, change…how about a buck ?…F.ck off.

    Anything worthwhile, maybe realistic ?

    Comment by Robert — August 4, 2011 @ 11:53 am

  619. “So long as the money isn’t derived from re-sales”.

    Merry-Go-Rounds, c’mon, the kids don’t wish to be
    out of it, anymore.

    “would they like something a little more saleable”

    NO – they are not all jew-dust.

    Comment by Robert — August 4, 2011 @ 12:17 pm

  620. oop’s, my bad -

    SADISTS.

    Comment by Robert — August 4, 2011 @ 12:22 pm

  621. The destruction of poetry – 1 2 3

    What else you got ? TT cursed ?

    Comment by Robert — August 4, 2011 @ 12:32 pm

  622. Aussie Pie Cursed !

    Comment by Robert — August 4, 2011 @ 12:35 pm

  623. …and they said, that they were all in it together…TT = 3.14

    Yep, the planet is round, so, what we doing to each other folks ?

    …don’t know, still doing in binary.

    Comment by Robert — August 4, 2011 @ 12:46 pm

  624. I found another good, stringent and reliable source of information on Gangstalking here:

    http://www.usenet-replayer.com/faq/alt.abuse.recovery.html

    It’s a bit dated, with links not functioning, but sorted out and conditioned very well.

    Comment by Michael — August 4, 2011 @ 6:55 pm

  625. Robert, you’re a bitter jackass. I’m sorry hear that that you were so damagingly quoted out of context from covert recording in a court of law. But it is clear that you are obscuring whatever the true and howsoever prosaic actual circumstances of your own life.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 5, 2011 @ 3:55 pm

  626. Talking of unfunny issues – all the signs are that turk forces are happily participating in that computer-hacking-porn-spreading ratf*ck mentioned further above. If they want to “punish” me “infidel” for petty “insult”, they vastly overdid this – again, as usual. Engaging in shamelessly exaggerated covert character assassination of someone who was even starting to think that they’re wrongfully dealt with, unblamable object of anchoring etc. – pity. So, what’s more obscene – watching porn in private or hacking a pc and excessively spreading that collected trash all over town? And if it wasn’t porn, who gives a flying f*ck – it’s crime, and crime is undecent. They even employ minors for this – that can’t be called decent either, huh? This is lewd. So much on superiority. They’re decent and superior. Well done. Good fellow gangstalking citizens.

    Yours “paranoid schizophrenically”,
    Michael

    Comment by Michael — August 5, 2011 @ 8:57 pm

  627. Again, Robert, you assume the passive voice in order to obscure the true narrative of your life behind a panoply of mythical vast forces. Clearly you are outmatched in conflict with personal enemies however sneaky and not any nebulous global machinations. .

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 6, 2011 @ 3:24 am

  628. Aaron Quote –

    “But it is clear that you are obscuring whatever the true and
    howsoever prosaic actual circumstances of your own life”

    By not having some ‘silly’ method of covering up (masking) the effects of this crime, one cannot function, in
    any capacity and the effectiveness of the crime is maximized. So forget it… moving on –

    The unjustified use of ‘wire taps’ and hidden surveillance methods (covert operations) wasn’t to be in the perp’s interests, this wasn’t to their advantage, at all. It is a trail of public and state’s evidence that I could
    (and have) used to ruin them. All they were initially interested in was obtaining personal information, they
    had hoped to use against and to silence me. They had nothing, except misrepresentations, their patsies
    that were professionally associated within a large part of the entertainment industry doing self harm.

    In short – “Look what they are doing to each other, while doing this to me”

    Their only purpose was exploitation, in my own experiences there are no other reasons, electronic assaults that I recorded, on various occasions and how such gross privacy violations and disturbance did indeed maximize the returns, on a bad investment called Madonna & Associates. The investors were, of course Warner, Festival Mushroom Records (Aust) and the FOX network via News Corp. These attacks resumed in late 1992, things had been relatively quiet since 1985.

    Original Lyrics – From the song ‘Words’ (1992) Erotica – Madonna.

    “As words used in anger”

    Interlaced through the use of harmonic resonance with the above lyrics , so comprising an assault -

    “I used you as a suicide anchor”

    This “HIT” I first recorded in early 1993, and gave away copies of cassettes to people I haven’t seen since.

    It goes beyond ‘stimulus’ through electronic assaults, ignorance of the complaints that are made while
    maintaining an unhealthy, obsessive interest in the ‘programming’ that produces undivided attention
    from the ANCHORED test victim. Replication of visual disturbances via the media – Madonna owns
    a yellow Bentley, then you see this vehicle outside a construction site, you are working on, in one part
    of town, then again nearby your home, some twenty kilometres away. Coincidences? No. Deliberate
    disturbances to maintain your attention to the misinvestment.

    Street theatre with verbal noise campaigns containing subtle suggestion to maintain the ‘program’

    Rather than continue to try and convince others of these events, attempt law suits, against those that
    were responsible for setting me up and making money out of it, I learnt earlier – don’t bother – as I
    could not win. A victory along those lines would only be through a large group class action. Searching
    for other entertainment industry victims of this type of assault, then taking the corporate criminals apart.

    I find it much more satisfying destroying their business (crime) through disclosure, of their ‘secrets’
    as in trade secrets, now no longer ‘hidden’ and ‘protected’ practices. Rat on their practices, It’s their
    turn to loose. The hard work is avoiding the issues such as misinformation distractions & decoys.
    I can’t forget what they did…and I’m not prepared to forgive, the relentless evil that trespasses upon me
    and they are not backing off…So their destruction through disclosure.

    Profiteering from dumping subtle suggestion, on someone’s private life, via electronic harassment.
    Projecting such assault publicly through the entertainment industry’s products to maximize public
    attention, as per reflected psychological disturbances, thereby increasing sales, then apply forced
    denial of such practices as being work-able in an attempt to cover up such evil, organized crime.

    Why not come across as a bitter jackass, just to flush out the garbage that look forward to nothing
    else in life other than bitching and nit-picking ? Set such individuals aside; get on with the destruction of hidden crime practices, through disclosure.

    The News O T World espionage and privacy violations is nothing new, look at the Media connections
    of one Anthony Pelicano serving a 15 year sentence for such clearly, still ‘active’ crimes.

    Comment by Robert — August 6, 2011 @ 5:06 am

  629. Au contrair, I’d even venture that objectivity actually improves function rather than even threatening sanity. By embracing the mind-fuck of enemy psychological warfare you have magnified some devious clique of local thugs and bullies into a god-like all enveloping apparition beyond all hope of resistance. Is Any of that really helping you hang on fo0r dear life?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 6, 2011 @ 7:13 am

  630. Aaron ?

    Comment by Robert — August 6, 2011 @ 7:20 am

  631. Visit a computer cafe, where I hav’nt been before, confirm my computer isn’t going whacko
    hi-jacko.

    Comment by Robert — August 6, 2011 @ 7:33 am

  632. Testing – Spanish Inquisition (Question)

    What has a JEW without GOYIM, as in materials of the flesh ?

    Comment by Robert — August 6, 2011 @ 7:41 am

  633. Ethnic slurs garner you no sympathy.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 6, 2011 @ 7:50 am

  634. So the JEW is not quite itself ?

    Comment by Robert — August 6, 2011 @ 7:53 am

  635. Were there Italians (& base nazi’s) like Madonna, in on the wrought ?

    A C I D

    Sleeping with the ENEMY again ?

    Comment by Robert — August 6, 2011 @ 9:18 am

  636. Riddledeedee, Batman!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 6, 2011 @ 10:02 am

  637. Da. Da. Da – ar the fat man, da da da – enough !

    Comment by Robert — August 6, 2011 @ 10:31 am

  638. Yes, enough conspiracy arcanum and nonsense. Instead, let’s come to grips with the real challenges of overcoming community based psychological harassment.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 6, 2011 @ 12:55 pm

  639. sorry, I just cant play those parts…

    Comment by Robert — August 6, 2011 @ 1:36 pm

  640. Wonder if my community would ever harrass anyone with the power or money or whatsoever to overcome their sinister plots, apart from any “justifiable” reason. If there’d be a way to overcome, I’d go. But i can do whatever and go wherever i want – it all remains. Guess they chose me for being isolated, already somehow tattered, to play their heartless charades on. This is actually no “war” – a war would mean that there are opponents with the capability to impair EACH OTHER – and who did i impair, in the first place? Already 20 years of being target, plus a lame angry reaction on insulting “correspondence” from anonymous – and virtually EVERYONE involved – this surpasses my grasp. I never was a dark horse, but i do not deserve all this, so where there’s no proper reason, there’s no proper avail.

    Comment by Michael — August 6, 2011 @ 2:32 pm

  641. Bullies indeed prefer vulnerable isolated targets. Even publically socializing with a target of bullying begins to frighten the bullies off. The cultivation of connection and influence are crucial and should be considerations for our agenda to organize.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 6, 2011 @ 2:46 pm

  642. Mostly i’m alone, and to face infringements on a daily basis is my fate, i reckon. I’m aware of people being kind or helpful with me, though. Not being alone for the sole purpose of not being harrassed is futile and impairs my stamina, so i leave it as it is. There’s a simple observation that infringements significally drop in both rate and brazenness whenever i’m on my way either not alone or in a group. It’s also hard, however, not to bring up my gangstalking issue during more or less frolic conversations, while infringements happen visible only to me. I sometimes even doubt my perception because it’s all so omnipresent, which leads to unhealthy relational delusions and the mere impossibility to participate in community events. It’s like living in two worlds, one where i’m accepted and respected, and the other where i’m rejected and despised, and that’s where the “paranoid schizophrenic” part is at.

    Comment by Michael — August 6, 2011 @ 4:20 pm

  643. Sensitization becomes Surreal

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 7, 2011 @ 6:29 am

  644. Overcoming community based harassment campaigns (of the worst kind) psychological torture.

    For starters, having insight into why the groups of perp’s seem to be protected (sanctioned)
    and why the police aren’t interested in enforcing the law. I have caught many perp’s, inclusive
    of those that went overt and attracted the attention of the police, they were not charged.

    Also police questioning other police regarding harassment -
    In ’93 a detective asked a senior sergeant “Why are we hassling this guy sarg” response – “I don’t
    know, orders from the top” I have this recorded on a police interview tape, so there is a copy
    also stored with the police as well.

    Drugged by a Festival Mushroom Records, recording artist one Jeremy Saxon Oxley, prior to the
    Commencement of the electronic harassment, this through music sources of systems that are NOT
    equipped with radio receivers. Zero investigations by law enforcement. Complaints to the agency
    that looks after licensing of broadcasters, same deal no investigations “It’s not interfering with
    your radio or television reception” A lack of ANY investigations into those that were responsible
    equates to gang stalking and directed energy weapons sanctioning for some perp groups, inc’
    of the entertainment industry, which is where all the supportive evidence leads.

    What I had originally considered, then discounted was that these industry creeps had used a
    part of the system (law enforcement) that isn’t though to exist, the authorities wish to keep it
    that way and the net result is that this system gets abused by criminals, setting up and exploiting
    innocents.

    What ever the substance was that I was drugged with (by j s oxley) then it brings about sensitivity
    to the transmission, in other words the normal masking affects are removed, I did double blind
    tests with recording of the ‘transmissions’ that is the attacks, and I can identify what is on the
    different tapes, made on different dates of the same album. As time moved on, then the amount
    of abuse from the perps increased. Yet people that have not been sensitized, programmed to
    be receptive to the attacks can’t discern any difference on the recordings, I can. They can only
    see the aberrations on the oscilloscope screen. Where people see the hits on the screen, I hear
    the abuse that is buried ‘in the mix’

    The remaining reasons for a lack of investigations, is the obvious fact that the complaint mimics
    paranoid schizophrenia, the sad part is that if anyone discusses such things, this is how they
    are mistreated, via misdiagnosis without ANY investigations into OTHER reasons of cause.
    This is just plain deliberate ignorance. Why ? Why should such an EVIL system, if it is being
    abused be allowed to stay in the dark ? Devine intervention as the only thing, for a victim to
    forward to ? Damnation of these Satanistic Occultist Scum and their EVIL SYSTEM.

    Comment by Robert — August 7, 2011 @ 2:46 pm

  645. Quod Erat Demonstrandum
    ____________________

    Gang-Stalking is a State/government crime covered from the State Secret!
    It used for social devastation.
    It is the war of State against society!

    Comment by rscaru — August 7, 2011 @ 3:47 pm

  646. Quod Erat Demonstrandum
    ____________________

    Gang-Stalking is a State/government crime covered from the State Secret!
    It is used for social devastation.
    It is the war of State against society!

    Comment by rscaru — August 7, 2011 @ 3:48 pm

  647. Why aren’t the police involved? The short answer is that the police are already overworked. They are also not well educated about devious bullying. It doesn’t help if allegations sound crazy.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 7, 2011 @ 6:04 pm

  648. Been to a town 50 km from home, walking, watching Street Theater (actual Street Theater, no lame joke :) and a little Circus. What can i say: perps, perps, perps. Some brazen, some subtle – i wasn’t alone – but all depreciatory. A field trip into certainty that this is still as big and nauseating as it was ten years ago.

    Comment by Michael — August 7, 2011 @ 9:27 pm

  649. The Ultra-Slow-Motion Kill. The perfect crime… “Fancy meeting you there!” I’ve had it.

    Instead of apologies, a f*cking medal for bravery and decent compensation, they intensified the ratf*ck. Can’t please them perps, just displease or amuse ‘em. And i displeased ‘em by calling them garbage – in a private digital document on my home pc desktop – and announcing to disclose names and sources. Oh, these decent citizens were not amused, no, they were displeased. They’re superior and i’m inferior, just for the files. And i had no names and sources. But the mere announcement alarmed them so much, that they put me on the big gangstalking map – a bigot xenophobic unemployed alcoholic psycho wanker calls us superrace garbage. Let’s call him delinquent! That’s how superior they are, and that’s how it works; the target gets finally sold as a thug, for the rest of this goddam world to play god cop bad cop with. Or funny organ banking deposit games.

    NO, GANGSTALKERS, YOU’RE NOT GARBAGE. YOU’RE SUPERIOR! SORRY! Organ traffickers – much fun with my liver!

    Comment by Michael — August 7, 2011 @ 9:58 pm

  650. Michael, are you asking us to believe that strangers in a new town already knew and resented you? Could you be mistaken? Might there have been anything to distinguish you for persecution by class? Are you perhaps of a palpably nervous disposition? Or are you determined that you are on the radar of the vast international conspiracy? Are you going to vilify me again if I dare request evidence? What are you doing to make your case? Or are you determined that we must all remain helpless?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 8, 2011 @ 6:44 am

  651. @Aaron
    And no, i’m not “asking you to believe that strangers in a new town already knew and resented me”. I just state the blindingly obvious: someone spitting out while staring at me, well, she must have had a bad taste in her mouth – coincidence. Someone talking about not being able to “stand the presence of this guy anymore or i’ll puke” while staring at me – coincidence. Somebody staring at me and making the current “sensitizing” hand movement – emphatically slow sweeping the right hand over the left forehead and back of his head – coincidence. Someone staring at me in a restaurant – talking back to his companions and they start to giggle and stare at me as well – coincidence…. These are just four examples of more or less subtle references to my target persona, not to mention the bloody rest, like conversation mimickers in the train yada-yada-yada. I wore ordinary beige jeans trousers, a dark red short-sleeve shirt, a sleeveless outdoor jacket and a rucksack, absolutely contemporary and nothing to be disgusted or nauseated of. All in all a most unmeaning appearance, and i’m not ugly apart from my (med-triggered) overweight. Evidence – gee, a long-term target can tell chance from perp action in most cases. They already ratf*cked me being an arsonist, child molester, drug dealer, undercover cop, rapist, exhibitionist, thief and murderer. Fictitious charges, but with volitional harmful impact on my rep. Didn’t i mention the “kill indiction” on my answering machine some weeks ago? It was a vivid hint on “killing” my rep on a big basis, if not myself entirely, that is. Can’t change it anyways, so i go with serenity. Palpable nervous disposition – not a bad illustration for being exposed as an “internet meme” already, like that obese starwars kid – “grave” version – pun intended. Dysfunctional viral marketing, so to speak.
    By the way, what kind of gangstalking scheme are you suffering from? I neither vilified you anywhere here in the first place, nor will i vilify anyone else here for whatever reason. But it’s pretty obvious, too, that I can see only your continuative comments and questions here – a method nondirectional psychotherapists use to encourage patients to give away facts ’bout the staggering condition they’re in. I don’t question your good work or presume that you’re a perp in sheeps clothes, so, again, what’s your story?

    Comment by Michael — August 8, 2011 @ 9:05 am

  652. Michael, having been sensitized, you can never quite be sure what is coincidental or not. That’s the entire mindfuck. Therefore, to be less non directive and more straightforward, might it not be worth a little covert video? Since you ask, my own experience with organized gang stalking is in the context of covert relational hostility in the subculture of particular social gatherings. I bear the dubious distinction of being foremost among those targeted individuals secretively followed around by convention security, who infiltrate the crowds and demand of everyone not to socialize with me! Fantastic as this all may sound, I now have corroboration from an inside source even of some occasions that I had not hitherto been fully aware. Vague, disturbing and damaging complaints against me often begin before I even arrive at the hotel! Defamation has run the gamut from pedophilia to demonic possession! And this scarcely scratches the surface of rising Fascism, fear and loathing. Yes, I am a big Sci Fi convention nerd. Pathetically, I depend upon that community for convivial opportunity to connect with like minded, utility which has been destroyed, especially for me, by the bullies who run things, embedded in that community. I will not even go into the extent of damage personally, and to what once was such a vibrant subculture. I have even gone to court, but to no avail. I have more promising strategies if only I could organize. I’m looking for a few good people in my locale to help one another. I understand all the arrogant weaknesses of my enemies.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 8, 2011 @ 9:34 am

  653. And a vast international conspiracy? I was on the verge of believing that when i went abroad (to three neighboring countries – France, Austria and Italy) and the transgressions did not stop entirely. They were much less frequent and brazen, but positively present, subtle and persistent. Oh no, wait, i remember some bold transgression in France some years ago – with insulting remarks i don’t remember exactly, saucily taking pictures of me and my travel companion, a messed with, open car on the parking place (typically without purloining sth.) – my companion was severely mixed about it, while i just “knew”. Spoilsports galore. However, it surpasses my grasp by far, and any theory about it can only be conjectural. Again, a target’s evidence is perception – and this instrument is neutralized in my case by that overwhelming diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia. And no, I’m not “determined that we must all remain helpless”, but for myself I can only deliver myself to the hands of fate, believing that there can’t be a punishment without a delict and that there’s someone watching over me – besides perps with wagers on my bearing power.

    Comment by Michael — August 8, 2011 @ 9:46 am

  654. Michael, if I lived in your town, I would gladly participate in getting the goods on whatever perps, and helping in sorting reality from anxiety. But as for France, you must know perfectly well that the damn Frogs have a rep to uphold for being as rude as possible to tourists!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 8, 2011 @ 9:54 am

  655. Thanks for your story. I’m a huge sci fi fan, too, (“Serenity” is my favourite, no oh-so-slick pun intended here, pity) but chances are that being in favor of escapist futuristic prose ain’t no generic prerequisite for a target. If it only was that simple, i’d burn my precious collection asap :)

    “you can never quite be sure what is coincidental or not. That’s the entire mindfuck.” Yesss. That’s where medics start to rant about paranoia, relational delusions and the like. But then again: a target perceives what a target has to perceive. I was filmed by mobile cams from the very beginning of my field trip to the end. They hold the lens towards me while pretending a call, circling around me if possible i.e. in front of a train station, and confronting them would end up in “What did you say? Help, this nutcase molests me!” And covert videos, well, all of the transgressions happened (and happen) so fast and “unexpected” that i can’t be bothered to walk around with multiple running cams attached to each and every side of me. Conversation mimickers stop and giggle when i look at them, and after a while they continue. I don’t want to behave whimsical, that’s the only asset i got. Not to sound discouraging, but my case exceeds community based bullying by far. Yes, this is vast – to my chagrin. But the vaster it becomes, the more fault-prone it becomes, too – get the idea?

    A customary approach, however, would be a voice- or motion activated cam or voice recorder in the car – where they just don’t expect it. But then again – they always know… I already installed various web cam based surveillance apparatus in my various homes, to no avail, as already mentioned above. The most obvious interference they produced was a power outage in one of my then homes – the pc was off, no vid, no pics, the answering machine was blinking (it always does after a mains failure) and the fittings were tampered with as usual.

    Comment by Michael — August 8, 2011 @ 10:32 am

  656. I would never call the french frogs, i’m slightly francophilist, and i do love several french bands (i.e.”Air”) as well. They’re just as european as any other european country, i reckon. And why the heck would they pick ME and my then companion out, for typical transgressions i know exactly well from my homeland? No, this was a direct and volitional approach, with a remarkably cheeky couple taking the camera shots in various locations of our field trip – “Look at us! We’re watching you!” and a tampered-with car on top.

    Comment by Michael — August 8, 2011 @ 10:40 am

  657. Speaking of “particular social gatherings”, i experienced anonymous self help groups as a prime and extremely helpful forum for the actually concerned. In my gross naivety i thought perps would respect the sanctum of spiritual self help, but – that shouldn’t come as a surprise – it’s tidbits for them. Anonymity – m.a.

    Comment by Michael — August 8, 2011 @ 11:52 am

  658. It is too complicate to gang-stalk targets while on the road.
    [Not impossible but very rare, so generally improbable /// <== general evaluation; no intention to discuss what reported from someone else]
    State/government gang stalking is generally focused on living places, working places and educational places.
    1 [one!, occasionally 2] Secret Police officer organizes everything. Later, he/she receives daily report by telephone calls.
    They have to follow a certain number of cases and with limited human resources.
    =======================================================
    "Sensitized" means that one lives everything in a paranoid way…
    If one is not capable to discriminate between what is probably sure and what may be casual, they have won.
    A lot of literature on the matter just diffuses paranoias.
    People discovering from books that their problems are gang-stalking may frequently be fake cases. Or reality is mixed with self-suggestions.
    =======================================================
    Nobody having asked for para-political asylum since gang stalking?
    Am I the only case?
    Do you have fear to make notorious your shitting governments?
    It is not important to be accepted as a refugee. States cooperates in their crimes… They support each other…
    It is important to try and to let written and reliable traces.
    Do they stalk you?! Stalk them!
    Roberto Scaruffi
    rscaru@gmail.com

    Comment by rscaru — August 8, 2011 @ 11:59 am

  659. I must confess some credulity at the notion of the perps’ omniscience to video surveillance. But were it true, and indeed kept them away, then I’d certainly recommend it all the more! However, what I was actually talking about is the idea of covert video surveillance of your disturbing encounter on the street etc. A hidden camera upon your own person is one option, but a team would be so much more effective. Such should be only one agenda point for which we need to better organize. PS. In my own circumstances targeted as I am for serial bullying, I am not much worried about infiltration, as their goal, to the contrary, is to socially isolate me. The nasty Yentas together live in an echo chamber, and already imagine themselves omniscient! I do hope that you will eventually find whatever helpful group(s) in which you can feel at all secure, Michael.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 8, 2011 @ 12:22 pm

  660. “Do they stalk you?! Stalk them!”

    Confirms that it is a loosers game – no one wins. Blind leading the blind going around in circles
    without a leader – everyone is following the lead of the one in front, yet they are all behind someone
    else, who does’nt know – who they are shitting on.

    The paid perp operates in a capacity, of not needing to know, or even asking why a person is
    being stalked. Like the cops, the military and multi-national thugs (sorry corporations) – they are
    “just following orders” without question. This respect for authority is a big part of the problem, as
    no one questions authority WHEN THEY SHOULD. “Hey sarg, are you sure hassling this guy, is in
    our interests”

    “Man with a Badge” – Oh, yes sir, no questions asked, three bags full sir… yes sir, right away sir…

    Morons !

    Comment by Robert — August 8, 2011 @ 12:30 pm

  661. To catch a perp -

    Is best done by baiting, I said it before “to catch a perp – set them up” then the evidence you will no doubt
    get is the perp trying to justify themselves, it will be bucket loads of B/S, of course. Further evidence from
    them will be – excuses “but so and so said, and she said, he said” and of course the one that really makes
    me go ballistic is when it is anounced that the perp has a mental illness, so they are not generally considered
    a threat, by the authorities…

    Comment by Robert — August 8, 2011 @ 12:52 pm

  662. I disagree: Video of gang stalkers in action is hardly without value. Nevertheless, I do agree, in that I am all for infiltration, stroking, validating and recording the hateful braggarts eagerly incriminating themselves. Because, they may be more likely just to dummy up, than to make excuses, when put on the spot. In any case, to reiterate, for legal evidentiary purposes, public places such as restaurants have less reasonable expectation of privacy then, say, private homes.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 8, 2011 @ 1:18 pm

  663. @rscaru
    “It is too complicate to gang-stalk targets while on the road.”
    Sorry, but i must disagree. Just as easy as performing appointed flash-mobs. Even more easy when the involved are vigilante covert actionist groups and the target is an alleged delinquent.

    “”Sensitized” means that one lives everything in a paranoid way…”
    Not everything. “Sensitizing” is a means to make the target prone to over-reaction, thus developing all symptoms of relational delusion. But for long-term “surviving” targets as me, it’s relatively easy to separate the wheat from the chaff. Ok, you might come up with my “paranoid schizophrenia” diagnosis, but this is just what happened when i told the meds in a clinic about my problem. I went there for acute anxiety relief, and this massive diagnosis came along. Pity.

    “Do they stalk you?! Stalk them!”
    I am no stalker whatsoever, i even lack any talent for covert actions, too.

    @Aaron
    “a team would be so much more effective”
    Sure, but i’m the only target i have the necessary contact with, so a one-man-team on my own behalf would be all i could prepare in short notice.

    Comment by Michael — August 8, 2011 @ 1:48 pm

  664. The streets are public places, music venues are public places, when someone is outside the front door of
    their home, yelling out with a tirade of street theatre, designed to disturb you then yes record such abuse
    at both audio & visual levels of evidential capture.

    Make sure you do so from within your boundaries, which they are acoustically trespassing upon. Don’t
    wander off down the road, to talk to a chamber magistrate about an apprehended violence order, inclusive
    of interim orders to restrict their activities, otherwise this will become a regular event for you. Years of gang
    stalking revealed how easy it is for the perps to replace operatives that are “just following orders”

    Use the noise campaign to embarrass the perps, by replaying it LOUDLY while some other loud noise is
    occurring – such as someone mowing the lawn etc. It lets them know, you are capable of collecting evidence
    in this way, and the potential threat that you could use it against them. Oppress to Oppressors, or if you like
    “Spook the Spooks”

    Comment by Robert — August 8, 2011 @ 1:50 pm

  665. The possible tradeoff in such counter intimidation is in possibly tipping ones hand.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 8, 2011 @ 2:05 pm

  666. 666 – the number of the beast, half animal, half machine
    also known as gang stalking and directed energy weapons

    Comment by Robert — August 8, 2011 @ 2:08 pm

  667. When you think about the life of a rock & roll star, they are paid to be stalked, psychologically profiled, etc
    by the global masses involved in gang stalking, also known as the fan club. Oh well, the ‘star’ had a choice
    and sold out to the beast…

    Comment by Robert — August 8, 2011 @ 2:18 pm

  668. @Aaron
    “Video of gang stalkers in action is hardly without value.”
    Sorry, but most of the material i.e. on YouTube is clearly without any value, as perps work in discreet fashion, all they’re saying is “We’re here, we are close, we know, you are outside.”

    (see the Norma Lawrence case: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKybGHkncqI )

    For the target, the perp’s actions are clearly audible and visible, as he or she is sensitized towards the “generic anomaly” of their actionisms, but these (demoralizing, penetrant, unsettling) actions are way beneath any offence level. So where there’s no offence, there’s no “public interest” – and this is exactly what complaining targets get to hear from authorities. So crime-scene-flics might arbitrarily expose the perps identities but not their villainy, which ultimately leads to charges against the target or intensified harrassment. To catch an intruder red handed would also lead to mere private law charges without any connection to organized groups whatsoever. Or, putting it less semi-official, “Gangstalkers in Action” would be a very boring movie for the uninvolved, so no film corporation has any interest to produce it.

    The “Stasi”, former east german secret service, had this thing with the laundry – one day a target’s bed-linen was gone, the next day it reappeared but the underwear got pilfered. Targets complaining about these issues were immediately stamped mentally ill and hospitalized. Not that private gangstalking would go so far, but the laundry thing has been copied already. Secret-service know-how leaking out all over the web gets immediately utilized be thugs of all trades.

    Comment by Michael — August 8, 2011 @ 2:32 pm

  669. And it was given unto him (the beast)…that the image of the beast should …speak, and cause that as many as should not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the bond, that there be given them a mark on their right hand, or upon their forehead; and that no man should be able to buy or to sell, save he that hath the mark, even the name of the beast or the number of his name. Here is wisdom: He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man: and his number is Six hundred and sixty and six.
    666 is a number correlating to unix based system’s file access permissions. Chmod 666 allows any user to read and write, but not to excute. Ain’t that a fine correlation to gangstalking activities? They trap and manipulate both target and public with massive read and write ratf*ck until a final (“legitimate”) executionist appears. A multi-headed creature coming out of the oceans to gobble the righteous = multiple gangstalkers utilizing the web to destroy people? St. John’s visions do fit proper here. Wait for RFID implants in hand or forehead (third eye)…

    Gee, i sound so esoteric here, sorry but i got taken away…

    Comment by Michael — August 8, 2011 @ 3:01 pm

  670. Michael, surely the video you cite is among the best. It is lucid, sympathetic and persuasive. Why is it so disparaged by you?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 8, 2011 @ 4:33 pm

  671. @Aaron
    I don’t question the relevance of this video, no way! It’s an important contribution in elucidating the ways and means of perpetrators. But as I already said: “crime-scene-flics might arbitrarily expose the perps identities but not their villainy, which ultimately leads to charges against the target or intensified harrassment.” The perps didn’t do anything objectionable or illicit, only (some of) their identity got exposed. It was a plethora of participators, and only one or two perps got exposed… The fate of Norma Lawrence however is unknown ever since. It’s no good to go down as a martyr! One or two perps. Gee. I bet they just changed their appearance slightly and kept on perpetrating happily ever after.

    Comment by Michael — August 8, 2011 @ 4:43 pm

  672. True, the vast harm of psychological warfare in what may appear so trivial, the whole picture of such devious bullying in context, must be laid bare.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 8, 2011 @ 4:55 pm

  673. Here’s what i mean:

    There’s absolutely nothing to see that can be interpreted as a transgression, so nil can be derived from the people’s moves and actions if you’re not into covert signalling. Officials won’t pursue an alleged perp for taking his briefcase out and putting it back in. But the perps can be determined somehow and thus could press charges on the target. Well-meant, but dangerous for “timberwolves100″. The one-click reference to “Stasi”-signals can be quite a tempting source for new targets to jump on the sensitizing-train, too. Norma Lawrence’s flic is far more useful in terms of being explicit and illuminative.

    Btw., if the perps only wanted me to give up wanking, i’d happily refrain from doing so. Even though it’s good for my tennisball size prostate, i’d go with “powerhouse” and wet dreams, if they’d rearrange the cards. Duh.

    Comment by Michael — August 8, 2011 @ 5:26 pm

  674. Frankly, I’m trying to decide if the producer of the above imbedded video is insane, or making a deliberate parody.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 8, 2011 @ 6:18 pm

  675. Or a perp in disguise. See my comment on the stasi signalling link on the you-tube site. Luring a new target into this covert stuff will ultimately cause instant relational delusions. If it ain’t done in nescence or by mistake, then it really could be a sinister target-trap…

    Comment by Michael — August 8, 2011 @ 7:06 pm

  676. If we are really worried, then we must learn and implement whatever protocols of spycraft for detection of infiltrators and false flag operations. Personally, I am more concerned about the more prosaic flaming and truth suppression online.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 8, 2011 @ 10:44 pm

  677. False flag ops can’t be avoided, but there’s still a momentum of intuition that helps the “experts” to steer clear. I am worried about new targets (people who just found that they’re targeted) looking for help or reliable information on the issue via internet. For them, it’s really barb-wire, because they lack the fundamentals of sorting things out. They can become easy prey for false flag crap, thus unnecessarily prolonging the first (confused) and worst part of the ordeal.

    Comment by Michael — August 9, 2011 @ 11:50 am

  678. Yeah, you guys got it all. not.

    Quote – “sunshine report – Most actual victims of these assaults have been neutralized by so-called non-lethal nerve agents, a *fact* that will be known if or when the *truth* is revealed.

    Many other aerosol, contact and food planted chemical agents are being used against persons selected for these torture assaults.

    Sunshine Report – “Another document (available here) reveals the interest of a senior US Army toxicologist in tacrine, a drug used to treat Alzheimer’s Disease. The Army is not interested in the drug, however, for helping disease victims. Rather, it is assessing use of tacrine as a weapon. In February 2002, at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland, the toxicologist ordered a literature review on its potential for weaponization. Chemically, tacrine is a acetylcholinesterase inhibitor, a first cousin of the nerve gases sarin, tabun, and VX (among others).

    Look at all pharmaceuticals considered for weapons research on this study, disregard the “in the field” military delivery methods, the applications in our case are very *personal* as laid out in this blog and others.” end quote

    Comment by email — July 31, 2011 @ 6:35 am

    Hey dude, these constant posters are faction government posters working to bury the truth. It’s their job.

    Comment by email — July 31, 2011 @ 6:39 am

    Comment by Yourdog — August 10, 2011 @ 2:08 am

  679. NO STASI IN AMERICA
    A GOVERNMENT THAT USES ORGANIZED GANG STALKING VIOLATES BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS.
    Home
    Tell the President
    FBI Abuses
    COINTELPRO Today
    Hiding Misconduct
    Effect of Temperament
    America’s Shadow
    Liberty on the Ballot

    There needs to be a Congressional Investigation, much like the CHURCH COMMITTEE investigation into the FBI’s COINTELPRO activities that went on from 1957 to 1971, into the activities of the American Stasi. Police, Firemen, Ambulance Drivers, and Neighborhood Watch Groups are using a tactic called ORGANIZED GANG STALKING in the UNREMITTING HARASSMENT of citizens.

    It could start with a fireman or a neighbor getting together with MOBBING friends and making out a SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY REPORT in the execution of a personal vendetta against a target. Thanks to our Constitution-trashing U.S. Government that information could be databased in FUSION CENTERS around the country and a person can become a gang stalking target as a result of it.

    Comment by evidence — August 10, 2011 @ 2:44 am

  680. …Brainwashing…
    Both Gastapo and Stasi were very legalitarian.
    British and US are not!

    Comment by rscaru — August 10, 2011 @ 2:53 am

  681. I am not unaware, I am unconvinced.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 10, 2011 @ 9:33 am

  682. @evidence
    “It could start with a fireman or a neighbor getting together with MOBBING friends and making out a SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY REPORT in the execution of a personal vendetta against a target.” This could be a very fitting explanation for the community based stalking in my case, as i affronted a wall-to-wall neighbor in one of my last homes here, when i discovered that they were making audible marks on the coitus with my girlfriend. They remotely messed with the announcement text on my answering-machine, too – leaving themselves recorded, however. This strange guy has a motive, AND the connections, i reckon. It’s no mere US phenomenon, all this happens right now in Germany, with it’s brave new bigot “parliamentary democracy”.

    Comment by Michael — August 10, 2011 @ 9:35 am

  683. @Aaron
    False flag ops: a buzz phrase for false flag operators to mount another molehill? :)

    Comment by Michael — August 10, 2011 @ 9:40 am

  684. A false flag is a false identity or self representation of an operation, a con to gain the trust and cooperation of a new recruit or intelligence asset.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 10, 2011 @ 10:13 am

  685. “i affronted a wall-to-wall neighbor in one of my last homes here, when i discovered that they were making audible marks on the coitus with my girlfriend.” HUH?! “Colorless green ideas sleep furiously” much?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 10, 2011 @ 10:50 am

  686. Sorry, no offence; i know what a fals flag op is. It was just a notion on the latest comments here, with particular regard on the omnipresent government…

    But, well, really, these people eavesdropped on me and my girlfriend like it was the most self-evident thing in the world, with final threats of “consequences” for my spontaneous overreaction. After that, the gangstalking grew to the current vast proportions. They ratf*cked me by all means, and it dawned on me that this can’t be done without governmental “assistance”. If not, there’s really two worlds here.

    Comment by Michael — August 10, 2011 @ 4:38 pm

  687. Are you saying that you came too loudly with your girlfriend, the walls are thin and the neighbors complained, and only after that your troubles began?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 10, 2011 @ 6:06 pm

  688. Nope, the troubles were running already, as they did for decades now, but the flat was quite pathetically sound-proofed, a fact i hadn’t realized at all. And all i can echo is that “the gangstalking grew to the current vast proportions” afterwards. Maybe i was unaware that it would have anyways, and there were ample comparably disturbing incidents which i could take responsible for, but this is imho the most plausible.

    But i don’t want to go into further depths about this, if that’s alright with you.

    Comment by Michael — August 10, 2011 @ 8:04 pm

  689. Pattern recognition is actually pattern creation followed up by evaluation Empirically. Know more at: http://www.FoolQuest.com/feature_integration_gestalt.htm

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 11, 2011 @ 12:44 am

  690. That’s true, and i am, like most other gangstalking targets, slightly prone to relational delusions either. As i stated in my first post, the wirepullers must have learned their NLP very well. But i try to get to grips with, to varying outcome, however. All i can say is that i surmise different “threads” or groups of people behind it, as (also like noted above) there are too many people involved which have not the slightest thing in common. I’m still in the dark about that weird gangstalking case of mine.

    Comment by Michael — August 11, 2011 @ 1:44 pm

  691. Reductionism, denoting reduction, zero dimension, Gestalt, interrelation, Blah Blah Blah
    Feature integration theory integration also portrays perception as a Gestalt analysis of reality.
    Shape & form of an entity.

    WHAT HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH -

    Gang Stalking
    Directed Energy Weapons
    Covert Druggings
    Mind Control
    Gas Lighting
    Character Assasination
    Exploitation

    OR

    ANYTHING interelated that fits on this frontcover.wordpress.com ????????

    Discussions about gestalt clearly belong elsewhere, what do you seek Aaron
    somekind of recognition for your posting, on an unrelated topic of 11 YEARS
    ago ? This frontcover is the wrong page for it dude. a FLOW of opinions
    from contributors (of which you are not) is CONSTANTLY arrested by your
    meaningless drivel. Go play your brand of law enforcement elsewhere.

    Comment by Robert — August 11, 2011 @ 1:50 pm

  692. Michael,

    To further understand *your* particular case of gang stalking, you will need to try and explain
    WHO you have considered as being behind it. Gang Stalking is case specific for most T.I’s,
    otherwise there would be larger, more powerful lobby groups, sending it packing – it would hit
    the road so hard it would be leaving holes in it.

    Try and remember who and their possible reasons for setting you up to take this shit, it may
    have been political (for example) what paths of misadventure did they have you travel upon,
    some person that set out to destroy you (the jealous, professional envy, whatever)

    Have you studied self hypnosis ? This can help you to uncover *their* bullshit reasonings,
    even if it is a quarter of a century ago. The here and now can be somewhat pointless, but
    when you travel back to a starting point, well sometimes ‘CLICK’ and all the shit falls into
    place.

    Comment by Robert — August 11, 2011 @ 2:10 pm

  693. @Robert: You really don’t see the relevance of pattern recognition in the reasoned hypothethetico deductive investigation of network relationships and conspiracy?

    @Michael: It seems likely that you still might do better to apply Occam’s Razor a lot more. The simplest adequate explanations are likeliest. And you clearly need more support of different kinds. It is also important to move from the sense of vague powers, into a sharper focus of ordinary mechanistic causality. Sensitization looms large, but in actuality, harassment, both more overt and more nuanced, requires fairly little resources to remain elusive, all with distressing impunity. This is where the power of the community embedded petty bully comes from. Rising Fascism is politically cultivated from just such crabgrass roots.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 11, 2011 @ 2:15 pm

  694. @ Aaron please apply pattern recognition in the context of gang stalking, for the relevance of your
    ‘contribution’ otherwise it’s more drivel…

    I put forward and opinion for Michael to consider. To go back to some simple point in the history of
    his victimization. You come back with “Occams Razor” yet again, sure the simplest answers could
    be the right answers, but gang stalking is a complicated issue. “Rising Fascism” is just another one
    of your *spanners* to fluff up your prattle.

    I think, soon I will just ‘skip’ over such UNRELATED drivel.

    Comment by Robert — August 11, 2011 @ 2:32 pm

  695. @Michael: In my experience, politically motivated abuse is something that happens to other people in the news, who have accomplished anything important in combating oppression. In my own sore travails, I know that bullies hate, whether it’s discrimination or even if they actually hate me for who I am, any nuance upon which they fixate triggers them from their anal socialization, or whether they exult in Sadism and hate for hate’s sake alone. It is also entirely clear every self-serving advantage in life afforded in the community by bullying. The details may be obscure, but there is little fundamental mystery, not even in gang stalking tactics or gas lighting, shunning and mobbing. They’re just assholes! That does not limit the chilling effect of their power and control of social institutions, even so petty as the bureaucracy and grapevine of Science Fiction Fandom, flocked to as such a haven for the most vulnerable targets of exploitation.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 11, 2011 @ 2:46 pm

  696. @Robert, you make it abundantly clear how you resent what I have to say, but you offer very little to buttress your own world view as a more viable hypothesis to my own more prosaic general account. Gang stalking is emotionally complicated to the hapless target of such bullying, seemingly mysterious, but as a practical matter of execution by cooperating and socially networking bullies, nothing much arcane. Conspiracy begins closer to home. Life is an inadequately supported field research under the best conditions, beginning as all hypothesis, from unfounded conjecture subject first to critical preference and only then Empirical investigation. How to arrive at any verisimilitude at all, filtered out from sheer creativity in imagining connections? That is skeptical pattern recognition out from fanciful pattern creation. As to specific application beyond generality of principles, I have already discoursed at all upon my own reasoning to the matters at hand, and wouldn’t refuse to discuss it with you further if you might find yourself interested. You don’t have to agree, but it would help to be civil.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 11, 2011 @ 3:07 pm

  697. There’s no substantial motive – puzzling, if not frustrating. Motives for the goad’ on – plenty, however.

    Comment by Michael — August 11, 2011 @ 5:44 pm

  698. As to motive, if nothing else, bullies validate one another. More than that, bullies are connected and influential, as they systematically marginalize their social competition. Bullies institute a not so subtle punishment and reward system, so that others learn to conform, fall into line, and curry their approval.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 11, 2011 @ 7:50 pm

  699. Well i guess that anyone’s past delivers reverences to people being peeved at someone for something, but to have them rolled out into this ongoing widespread events of covert intimidation lacks reasonable substance. Being no delinquent but treated as such, however, brings up the search for un-arbitrary and untrivial motives of this slander again. No findings here, too, if i avoid to take the above arbitrary or trivial motives into account, that is. But then again… It’s like a jumping record.

    Comment by Michael — August 12, 2011 @ 9:53 am

  700. Bullying is almost never at all deserved, regardless of all pretense and intimation otherwise.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 12, 2011 @ 10:01 am

  701. They don’t care that you are owed an explanation.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 12, 2011 @ 10:15 am

  702. Maybe it’s just a front for further, meaner delicts like BigBrother’ish reality-tv, available only for paying customers on seedy websites, including bets on the particular outcome (see above: “bet-on-suicide speculators”)… My most paranoid idea, but there’s actually not a single point of evidence against it.

    Comment by Michael — August 12, 2011 @ 11:25 am

  703. The burden of evidence is upon the positive.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 12, 2011 @ 12:09 pm

  704. So unproven possibilities are endless. Pity the targets blessed with animate imagination.

    Comment by Michael — August 12, 2011 @ 12:25 pm

  705. The number of members of the set of all that exists times infinity equals the number of members of the set of all possibilities. When the imagination directs straight through to the lizard brain, bypassing the cortex, every shadow fills with menace.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 12, 2011 @ 12:42 pm

  706. Your ongoing problem with Madonna & Associates is nothing new to me as I have been a Victim of Madonna related crimes, like yours since 1985 back when I was hospitalized for a belief in the B/S I was being psyched out with. She returned with the program that I regard as Mind Control in 1992 and she has appointed criminals to maintain such violations since.

    It’s called gang stalking for profit & associated gains, it needs what
    it calls GOYIM. Thinks it is *above* humanity, wonder how it would
    survive without a planet ?

    Comment by Robert — August 12, 2011 @ 1:39 pm

  707. O.K – here we go, casting out the wildlife again. Any jews ? What
    about Muslims ? Any Christians, Buddists, Junkies, Acid freaks ?
    What about capitalist pigs, What about beasts with two legs, what about
    communists, what about weapon heads, bullies, the rich… what about shape shifting reptiles Aaron ? What have you got for us ?

    Comment by Robert — August 12, 2011 @ 1:48 pm

  708. Snakes -

    They taste like chicken, no matter how strong the herbs n’ spices.

    Comment by Robert — August 12, 2011 @ 1:56 pm

  709. Gang Stalking + propaganda + consented crowd control = Mind Control

    Delivery Method = Rock & Roll !

    In Taught – Behavioral Modifications (without warranties)

    Comment by Robert — August 12, 2011 @ 2:37 pm

  710. There is no real mind control in gang-stalking.
    It comes from behaviorist theories.
    Psychopathic statesman/women + academician + soldiers and police officers + ordinary louses = gang-stalking!
    Actually, gang-stalking is a lynching mechanism.
    It is practiced for producing hysterical stalkers and so destroying society by a State/government militia system.
    Targets are casually selected.
    The other accessory function is military, police, academic, bureaucratic, political etc corruption.
    By NATO and other gang-stalking programs they steal a lot of money extracted from the tax-payers.
    …Secret military, secret police…
    Orwellian!!!
    Kafkian!!!

    Comment by rscaru — August 12, 2011 @ 2:59 pm

  711. Robert, what have I got for you on the shadow armies of Anti-Matter Santayana Clause and the Disco Shogoth Patrol? – you ask… Only vodka-fuel for Moon-Nazi flying saucers!

    rscaru, the blue pill or the red pill? No, you had to order off menu, and down a chartreuse tablet with a paisley chaser!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 12, 2011 @ 4:01 pm

  712. “gang-stalking is a lynching mechanism”
    So if the govt wants to lynch someone, why don’t they just hire a professional hit man? This would be a.) more efficient, b.) less prone to failure, and b.) less pricey than organized stalking from a to z. Why? Or rather Why not?

    Comment by Michael — August 12, 2011 @ 4:16 pm

  713. It is a long-term [if the stalked is resistant...] lynching without physical contact.
    It is ‘necessary’ for hysterizing the stalkers/lynchers/torturers.

    Comment by rscaru — August 12, 2011 @ 4:25 pm

  714. “Delivery Method = Rock & Roll”
    Oh come on, Robert, do you really believe that rock’n'roll is prime among the sources of all evil? This sujet d’art is so broad and deep, and it also features works and interprets which actually soothe the pain a target is suffering from! Of course, there’s forks and branches which need no further explanation, why they’re actually promoting evil, but the entire genre? Gee, don’t tell that to former Cat Stevens, a truly peaceful messenger of islam, or Mrs. Annie Lennox, a true humanitarian, or Roger Hodgson of Supertramp fame, another example of a good person with a good message to get going… Or ambient, chillout, downtempo, Zero7, Air, this is blissful art, no satanic instrument.

    I start to believe that Gangstalking’s developing into something like an internet zoo for paying perverts to watch – several species to chose from, like Camwhores, but unaware of the cams – and to “participate” in their more or less dramatic struggle with harassment and intimidation.

    Comment by Michael — August 12, 2011 @ 4:34 pm

  715. “‘necessary’ for hysterizing the stalkers/lynchers/torturers”
    What profit derives from such a thing? Why are govts interested in the non-welfare of their people? What is this?

    Comment by Michael — August 12, 2011 @ 4:37 pm

  716. “for paying perverts”
    ==================
    Generally, Secret Police officers do not pay them.
    Thy have other benefits or absence of damages.

    Comment by rscaru — August 12, 2011 @ 4:39 pm

  717. ““‘necessary’ for hysterizing the stalkers/lynchers/torturers”
    What profit derives from such a thing? Why are govts interested in the non-welfare of their people? What is this?”
    ====================
    They are operations covered from the State Secret.
    As well as 9/11, 7/7, etc.
    Governments organize massacres, terrorism, war.
    They organize gang-stalkings etc.
    ASK THEM!
    Bureaucracies, military, politics etc are useless.
    They need to demonstrate their utility creating problems.
    In these way, creating more and more problems and crisis,
    they demonstrate they are indispensable.

    Comment by rscaru — August 12, 2011 @ 4:47 pm

  718. Now i, besides Aaron’s bullying for bullyings sake, and Roberts kabbalistic intrigue, i see two other (ostensibly) diametrically opposed, heavy theories: one is my intimidating, humiliating human zoo for paying perverts, organized by organized crime, and the other one is rscaru’s govts wirepulling and tolerating all this to make themselves more comfortable. If we dare to shuffle all this together, what do we get? A perky little New-world-order power maintenance scheme, or am i totally wrong here?

    Comment by Michael — August 12, 2011 @ 5:50 pm

  719. No, it is the usual old order…
    Nothing new. Only technologies are new…

    Comment by rscaru — August 12, 2011 @ 5:58 pm

  720. Old world order – one step ahead :)

    Comment by Michael — August 12, 2011 @ 6:29 pm

  721. Community based gang stalking, a feature of rising Fascism, certainly does exploit hysteria. That’s no news. And anyone can play, from the nobodies in the bush leagues to the captains of policy in the halls of power. -indeed, all typically whipping up any sense of crisis in order to make themselves indispensible. And repercussions from Neocon manufactured paranoia still contribute to a climate of fear, loathing and social repression exploited even by the pettiest bullies and influence peddlers. And yet I still doubt that the Chief of the CIA has a personal hand in any of our own personal travails, nor are we being irradiated from Area 51. And while the notion of syndicate sponsored bullying as secret Sadistic Reality TV is creative with dramatic potential, I find that scenario no less implausible and explanatorily inelegant and unnecessary than impossibly secret and competent pervasive conspiracy as a whole.

    Always, if only there is any advantage to be had in cheating, then a certain percentage of the population that will cheat competently at all will prosper thereby. And that goes for bullying. Bullying is predatory, anticompetitive and socially advantageous in any context. Bullies get their way in school and advance over the heads of more capable employees on the job. Cockblockers monopolize desirable women by driving away the competition so that other men learn to curry their favor. Evil doers know that cliques of bullies will aid and protect them. Petty bullying is a pervasive problem that typically falls through the cracks. Social circles equipped with the knowhow to deter bullying are exceptional. Harassment is abuse of power. And power relationships exist in every niche and at every hierarchical level of society. In this regard, there really isn’t more structure than there needs to be. That’s parsimony of explanation.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 12, 2011 @ 7:46 pm

  722. Aaron’s bullying for bullyings sake.

    Robert’s kabbalistic intrigue.

    Michael’s intimidating, humiliating human zoo for paying perverts.

    Roberto Scaruffi’s (rscaru) Governments wirepulling and tolerating
    all this to make themselves more comfortable.

    If we dare to shuffle all this together, what do we get?

    A powerful, guarded system that will always evade any justice, a network of corruption,
    fraud, organised crime, defense racketeering, war mongering, social manipulation inc’
    of behavioral modification via plug in programming (media & entertainment AND religion)
    a total mind f.ck for anyone that sets out to understand the ramifications of challenging
    such a beast.

    Most people try to isolate certain components of such a system, only to be set upon by
    other system components (system self defense networking) accepting that the system
    itself suffers from schizophrenia, because the individual components do not know what
    is going on, in the complete scheme of operations, so this maintains the Mindf.ck for any
    investigative understandings of such operatives we, the human race have become all to
    tolerant of.

    Comment by Robert — August 13, 2011 @ 5:19 am

  723. Roberto. S – “creating more and more problems and crisis, they demonstrate they are indispensable”

    Yes, of course, for example – the police are the first ones to jump up & down in complaint, if there is
    talk of the legalization of prohibited escapist substances.

    The military would also complain of such legalisation as, besides the black gold oil war, America, via
    the CIA would like to control the sourcing of heroin, the cultivation and processing of opium poppies,
    at a suitable elevation (climate) and the cheapest source of human resources to supply, so that china
    does’nt get a market share, (of supply) followed by total control of global supply.

    America can’t compete (military wise) or *thug* China and this has been proven with the wars of Korea &
    Vietnam. Less of a chance now days, with the current economic climate of the U.S of A.

    America can’t afford to *donate* anymore money to China, much of what is purchased by Americans
    now comes out of China. Why give them drug money as well, for china white, pink or blue ?

    Comment by Robert — August 13, 2011 @ 7:36 am

  724. As for bullying for its own sake, indeed there are always those who will do harm simply for the thrill of getting away with it. But bullying would not thrive so were it not so predatorily advantageous. There is no powerful, guarded system that will always evade any justice, but rather simple abuse of power wherever there are power relationships to exploit: guarded behavior, yet often brazen, that has consistently evaded any justice. Change is conceivable, but only if discussion finally turns towards agenda setting. One of the bulwarks of status quo is always any social taboo upon agenda discussion. What is our agenda? My prosaic model of bullying in society makes resistance very much conceivable, locally, with any modicum of organized resistance at all.

    There are indeed always many parts to the problem of impunity that must be addressed: Authorities of whatever kind, formal or informal, that are at any given time, more a part of the problem than avenue to any solution. But bullies are cowards. As tightly as they opportunistically collude, they really cannot rely upon one another in a pinch. The tide can be turned.

    But fantastical devilry of shadowy powers are almost by definition in their implacable intangibility, impossible to oppose. And I suspect that this is the true appeal of such mythologies: to play at rebellion whilst doing nothing. Look at every time in this very thread that I have asked: if circumstances are howsoever as claimed, then what should we do about it? The response has either been accusation and verbal abuse, simple confession of helplessness, or fear of infiltration. I suspect that the true obstacle is nothing more that depressive social withdrawal in response to unrelenting psychological warfare, the unseen enemy looming so large. It may be understandable, yet nevertheless distinctly disadvantageous.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 13, 2011 @ 7:39 am

  725. I remember when the very notion of repealing the War on Vice was simply beyond the pale, entirely outside the media political frame. But then at last when the air became to thick with begged question, there was the watershed Time Magazine cover: Drugs are bad, but criminalizing them makes things worse.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 13, 2011 @ 7:51 am

  726. So any further thoughts on “Save the American Economy” from ‘sanctioned’ off shore expenditure ?
    What about some thugs (bullies) that attack and psych you into buying genuine American Made
    products, you can’t afford (so you will have not) and chinese made commodities get the sales, you
    get gang stalked & bashed for buying them…

    Comment by Robert — August 13, 2011 @ 8:02 am

  727. The de-construction of the American Economy =

    N.A.F.T.A

    Some mad turk, he proved how destructive forces worked, elsewhere first… Was He A Jew ?

    Seems like Israel is behind most of this deconstructive process, Kabbalah is just annexed
    operations, many tentacles, multiple personalities.

    Comment by Robert — August 13, 2011 @ 8:27 am

  728. Deliria diffused from the SIS-FBI-CIA.
    Israel is a US prostitute.
    So, the USA use Israel, not the opposite.

    Comment by rscaru — August 13, 2011 @ 8:31 am

  729. Roberto -

    The US of A is Israel’s prostitution supply, their patsies, when something goes wrong, or
    if there is a certain need…

    To suggest the economically screwed Americans are not under JEW control is
    stupidity. American Jews invested HEAVILY in the establishment of the ZIONIST state.

    Wake up BoBo !

    Comment by Robert — August 13, 2011 @ 8:57 am

  730. @Shmuck: As a child, where you bitten by a Jew, Robert? Was it a radioactive Jew, and does your Semite Sense tingle?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 13, 2011 @ 9:16 am

  731. No Aaron, it was a self serving semi automatic jew, that lived next door…. objecting to my anti
    indian minor shootings,,,! her birdy friends.

    Comment by Robert — August 13, 2011 @ 11:33 am

  732. Damned in his own words.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 13, 2011 @ 12:09 pm

  733. I saved some fried lice for you Aaron !

    Comment by Robert — August 13, 2011 @ 1:16 pm

  734. Birdy num num lice, licee num nummy birdy…

    Comment by Robert — August 13, 2011 @ 1:28 pm

  735. Yeah, that’s right Robert, ya gotta go with your gut: I’m just hanging out at the kosher Chinese restaurant with the Elders of Zion, plotting world domination, desperate to block your psychic remote viewing into our machinations, by sowing that confusion which only comes from pondering reasoned evidence!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 13, 2011 @ 1:37 pm

  736. Ar So, seasoned birdy num num, quail with the buck shot, to show worth, lead free, alternative pellet form.
    & the metal is ? safe gisard stone is ? RoHS compliant is ?

    Comment by Robert — August 13, 2011 @ 1:49 pm

  737. “To suggest the economically screwed Americans are not under JEW control is
    stupidity. American Jews invested HEAVILY in the establishment of the ZIONIST state.”
    =========================
    People has no idea how a State/government work.
    US Jews and Judaism (rabbis etc) are under the tight control of Secret Police departments of the FBI, which tell them what to do and what not to do.
    Idem in Canada, UK etc.
    “The Jews” do not exist.
    If a Pollard betrays is put in prison for decades or more.

    Comment by rscaru — August 13, 2011 @ 1:53 pm

  738. “The Jews” do not exist.

    Good morning Roberto,

    So a great hiding place for organised crims ha ?

    Comment by Robert — August 13, 2011 @ 2:06 pm

  739. Have, you maybe looked at populus spread, Russians & Polish “Jews” theft of *Palestine* ? (1923 +)

    Comment by Robert — August 13, 2011 @ 2:15 pm

  740. “organised crims”
    =====================
    Q.E.D.!!!
    Organised crime (Jewish or other) is always under State/government promotion, protection and management…

    Comment by rscaru — August 13, 2011 @ 2:19 pm

  741. “Palestine”?!
    ============
    History always is a complex matter…
    Human beings, idem…
    ============
    NOW,
    “Jews” there [in Israel] are de facto US mercenaries and human shields;
    the others (“Muslim” overall) are UK mercenaries and human shields, although States as Saudi Arabia are used both from the UK and the USA for their terrorist activities.
    ============
    Perhaps people do not know that even the Jewish religious affairs are managed elsewhere, NOT from “Jews”.
    If you apply for conversion in a synagogue, first they ask in Israel (to the Israeli police), which asks to the Secret Police of the State of your nationality and to the CIA etc. too.
    If the CIA-SIS etc say “no”, the rabbis refuse your conversion.
    Such is how things work…

    “The Jews” do not exist. Just propaganda and poor people manipulation.
    Very rich Jews, as Muslim, Christians etc are obviously part of power networks, until they do not “betray”….

    If one studied the history of WW2, one would find rabbis ALWAYS cooperating with their butchers.
    It is an historical propension…

    Difference and adaptation…

    Comment by rscaru — August 13, 2011 @ 2:32 pm

  742. This depends solely on who wan’t to be the *visible* front person, different smells, same aging shit.

    Comment by Robert — August 13, 2011 @ 2:36 pm

  743. So it is agreed, religion & associated politics are a safe place for *friends* that seek the same david ends ?

    Comment by Robert — August 13, 2011 @ 2:45 pm

  744. A programmed belief that seeks the same returns…

    Comment by Robert — August 13, 2011 @ 2:52 pm

  745. “rabbis refuse your conversion”

    such a loss, tit for tat, tits for tarts.

    Comment by Robert — August 13, 2011 @ 4:05 pm

  746. I move for resolution that Jew-baiting (after all associated with pogrom) has no place in the fight against organized gang stalking. Will anyone second the motion?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 13, 2011 @ 5:34 pm

  747. Gang-stalking is organized from State/governments by their Secret Police corps.
    As occasional militians they recruit whoever has not the courage to say no.
    Rabbis are not different from imams, pastors and priests.
    Worshipers idem.
    Obama sign the same gang-stalking authorizations as Bush.
    It is not a question of “the whites” or “the blacks”.

    Comment by rscaru — August 13, 2011 @ 6:25 pm

  748. Bullshit.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 13, 2011 @ 10:31 pm

  749. I know which cliques gang stalk me at cons. But as for the hardcore vigilante gang stalkers on the street, those are known to be thugly nobodies, desperate cop wannabes. At most they are at all community based. Even in rising Fascism, they are not government centralized. When Brown shirts are actually commissioned, this is never any secret.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 13, 2011 @ 10:46 pm

  750. Actually, gang stalking is emerging as a mode of neighbor bullying. As I have been saying, anyone can do it. You don’t need massive shadowy governmental powers or James Bond SPECTER conspiracies.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 13, 2011 @ 11:59 pm

  751. tales

    Comment by rscaru — August 14, 2011 @ 12:46 am

  752. No one has refuted my arguments or provided better ones, nor has anyone risen to my call for an agenda.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 14, 2011 @ 1:27 am

  753. “I move for resolution that Jew-baiting (after all associated with pogrom) has no place in the fight against organized gang stalking. Will anyone second the motion?”
    I go with that, furthermore, i want to remember the honoured attendees, of this thread being “about” organized confusion, and hopefully not being organized confusion itself. It’s still about gangstalking, isn’t it?

    Comment by Michael — August 14, 2011 @ 10:42 am

  754. I second your calling of the topic, Michael. Indeed, to reiterate, the original topic of this thread was not conspiracy theory or even merely gang stalking, but the problem of abusive flaming in repression of online discussion upon gang stalking. And the subject of fantastical conspiracy has been wielded as a bludgeon in order to drown out all else.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 14, 2011 @ 11:01 am

  755. There are two principle strategies of abusive flaming in truth suppression online regarding organized gang stalking: The first is denunciation of the very topic of organized gang stalking as paranoid crank conspiracy theory, and the second is the very opposite, virulent Ad Homiem against any attempt whatsoever to discuss the very real sociological phenomena of organized gang stalking or cause stalking among other related modes of bullying, except in context of fantastical Tabloid Weird machinations of super secret conspiracy and shadow government. Worse, paranoid crank conspiracy theory no matter how fantastical, has also always been a handy propaganda platform for hate speech such as even to inspire organized gang stalking, cause stalking, in the first place, if not pogrom outright. Conspiracy begins close to home. Bullies and thugs cooperate and network most readily and capably in isolating and victimizing targeted individuals. Organized gang stalking remains, after all, a pervasive behavior socially, a mode of bullying and abuse of power relationships that is so often one way or another community based and a feature of rising fascism.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 16, 2011 @ 9:16 am

  756. “Because this aspect of aggression involves little more than listening to rumors, the individual listener’s
    portion of the responsibility seems to disappear. Nonetheless, someone has received an injury.

    Relationships have changed and a person’s reputation has lost value because of words. Every single
    listener has amplified and perpetuated the injury”

    Quote is from “Relational Aggression” by Ken Cox.

    This pretty much sums up the rock & roll hit record. The hit has a target, rarely is it obvious and rarely
    is it a generic’ target. Someone gets injured by the hit, because they ARE the specifically targeted
    individual.

    Each ‘individual’ listener’s contribution is granting the hit additional, aggressive power and this adds to
    the pain suffered by the target. Like gang stalking and harassment, there is never enough evidence
    or even a direct path of association with the entertainer, or their immediate associates but there is
    enough personal innuendo, to net the desired result of causing pain and distress.

    The target may reel, with the symtoms of a tinnitus attack, like *someone* just jumped all over them.
    Public attention and sales of psychological products through deliberate, directed and dis-orientating psychological attack.

    “As a child, where you bitten by a Jew, Robert?” – Aaron Agassi

    I was was psychologically pack raped and exploited by the fucking scum and upon complaint suffered
    more persecution and victimization by fucking jewfish shrinks. Understand this, it was before the ‘anti-
    Semite’ attitude even existed, get that into your ‘smug’ head Agassi.

    Jews in the entertainment industry are gang stalking arrogant thugs, or your choice of description – bullies.
    Swollen ego’s just waiting for some prick to come along and put an end to everything they lived for.

    They run the planet with their ‘hidden’ agenda, much of it psychological manipulation through the
    ‘published’ media. When the media of entertainment is nothing more than a working tool that replaced
    religion, for many people, seeking *an escape* and like religion showing a lack of proveable responsibility
    as well. Just more dangerous delusional content that maintains the thinking persons contempt.

    What better place to hide out, for organised crime, than religion itself. So forget ‘Anti-Semite’ or Jew
    Baiting, as this is little more than slanderous slur, to those so victimised, long term, by such pack pigs.

    Agassi you ask of a working program to approach the problem of gang stalking, step one is busting
    up the religions that harbor such crims. They are not going to do anything ‘internally’ ARE THEY ?

    So yeah, now do you see why the problem of gang stalking is ongoing, without arrests ?
    Have You Tried suing a corporation ?
    What About Arresting a Religion, known to harbor criminals. Not just the Jews, Bad Example -

    What about the Catholic Church of Rome and the practice of ‘confession’
    “Bless me father, for I just blew away Agassi and his family”
    So How many Hail Mary’s and Our Father’s is that gonna cost ?

    Comment by Robert — August 16, 2011 @ 10:23 am

  757. Robert, you now seemingly shift to the related problems of exclusionary peer pressure, malicious gossip, defamation and character assassination. And for such to succeed, the lies don’t really need to be believed with any confidence. For even to engender momentary hesitation on the part of others to approach and connect with the targeted individual, significantly isolates said hapless targeted individual socially. Mobbing and shunning as may soon ensue, are even worse and more shattering.

    But what have entertainers to do with this? Are you back on Madonna again? No, Robert. First of all, my strategy would not begin by breaking up your alleged cabals, because I am unconvinced and simply do not believe in them. I’d need hard evidence. But seeing as your approach does so hinge thereupon, I must point out that you do not seem to have any particular strategy. I understand that you feel extremely helpless. For that matter, I don’t think that you have any real understanding of Judaism.

    By contrast, because my own view is of conspiracy beginning locally, even from the underbelly of society rather than from the top echelons of power, my approach is entirely different. Therefore, while I would also espouse broad based alliance against bullying, more important will be to organize locally. Simply to publicly befriend a victimized person, already begins to deter bullying by cowards who only dare gang up to torment a vulnerable and isolated target. Beyond this, at http://www.FoolQuest.com/cliqbuebusters.htm I go at length into my best efforts at a protocol of tactics to protect targeted individuals and to expose and publicly humiliate bullies. For me therefore, change at least is conceivable.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 16, 2011 @ 2:47 pm

  758. The very topic of organized gang stalking comes under a relentless two pronged attack of flaming truth suppression online: First is dismissal as paranoid crank conspiracy theory, and the second, just the opposite, is monopolization of discussion by paranoid crank conspiracy theorists with Virulent Ad Hominem against any other view or context upon organized gang stalking, any attempt at serious examination of the disturbing sociological phenomena of organized gang stalking. Worse, paranoid crank conspiracy theory no matter how fantastical and insane, has also always served as a handy propaganda platform for hate speech such as even to inspire organized gang stalking, cause stalking, in the first place, if not pogrom outright.

    The truth is that conspiracy begins close to home. Bullies and thugs cooperate and network most readily and capably in isolating and victimizing targeted individuals. Organized gang stalking like mobbing, shunning, malicious gossip and bullying in general, remains, after all, a pervasive behavior socially, a mode of bullying and abuse of power relations that is so often one way or another community based and escalates as a feature of rising fascism. Local bullies and thugs are ever waiting to close ranks with political fascists waiting in the wings, so that by the time Brown Shirts are actually being recruited from the sinister top echelons of power, it’s certainly no secret to anyone. Bullying and gang stalking do not require intangible shadow governments or sinister secret globe spanning cabals. The ugly truth is that anyone can get the ball rolling. And the hope is that likewise with any modicum of organization locally, bullying can be thwarted, exposed and undermined effectively.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 17, 2011 @ 1:26 pm

  759. Bullies & Thugs, Brown Shirts, Fascists, Mobbing, Shunning now the buzz word is pogrom. Over & Over
    but little discussion (if any) about corporate activities that make money out of gang stalking, privacy
    violations and directed energy weapons. If methods to protect, discredit and dis-regard information
    that shows economic incentives, names the names and methods of operation and why these criminal
    games existed, then why are they are quickly ‘white washed’ by the off topic input of certain cretins ?

    When input starts to talk about fascists and brown shirts, it is clearly a brown wash and off topic.

    When comments that disregard historical evidence of deliberate misdiagnosis, without any questions
    are quickly plastered on then it appears that the topic is being de-railed, for what would be worth-
    while input in exposing the criminal game players – at a naming names and business activities level.

    Entertainment Industry saleable delusions protected by psychiatric mis-diagnosis games, targets that
    are people being exploited are written off as nut cases, all too convienient don’t you think ? Dumping
    delusional input on a target, at a sublimimal level and when they become aware of the ‘program’ so
    dumped on them, it stops. Time passes and the program appears in the score with the words, perhaps
    the story line of a motion picture or ‘hit’ song. Along comes ‘brown shirts’ , ‘fascists’ and total distraction
    that is totally off topic…To prevent worhtwhile discussion that is on topic.

    Comment by Robert — August 19, 2011 @ 8:16 am

  760. Chief game players in the entertainment industry and psychiatry are JEWS, the question is WHY ?

    If Pogrom culls such evil, so be it. Oportunistic Fucking Scum, hiding behind further delusional escapist
    programming, the fucking scabs. FUCK this world, if it is THEIRS !

    Comment by Robert — August 19, 2011 @ 9:31 am

  761. We were all created equally, then along comes poaching scum on power trips and all will be destroyed
    equally…

    Comment by Robert — August 19, 2011 @ 9:37 am

  762. Poaching on the efforts of another, sanctioned by religious mother fuckers, politicians, policing and their militia.

    There has to be something better than this ? Without the manipulative prize of money, materialism and
    therefore POWER, then what have these two legged beasts ?

    Comment by Robert — August 19, 2011 @ 9:51 am

  763. They talk of the secret police, so that’s cool, but who’s secret police were they ? The Rothchilds ? O.K maybe
    they were the secret police of the vatican state, but not of swiss guard extraction. So who are these secret
    police defending…without any false flag falling ?

    Comment by Robert — August 19, 2011 @ 10:16 am

  764. One should understand bureaucratic procedures.
    Secret Police are special sections and officers
    (by whatever police, para-police, military and para-military corps)
    with special cards-regulations.
    They can commit crimes [under institutional orders and with parliamentary cover],
    they can give orders to other bureaucracies (police departments, military, judiciary, etc)
    and they are legally unaccountable (covered by the State Secret).

    Comment by rscaru — August 19, 2011 @ 12:49 pm

  765. Comment by Robert — August 19, 2011 @ 12:49 pm

  766. The only legal accountability, that is considered, an act of wannaabbeee’s

    Comment by Robert — August 19, 2011 @ 2:01 pm

  767. They are legally unaccountable, NOT accountable, NOT to courts and “public opinion”.
    In practice, “the law” states that they are allowed to violate current laws.
    They create and manage terrorisms, State Terrorism.
    From Israel, to Pakistan and Afghanistan, to Finland
    do anybody think that terrorism would be possible
    if not created and manage from the same real government?
    Propaganda suggests that there are “obscure forces”.
    The “obscure forces” are actually government[s].
    …Not foreign governments.
    Internal governments with ‘combinations’
    where there is foreign presence and ‘influence’.

    Comment by rscaru — August 19, 2011 @ 3:02 pm

  768. Saleable commodities, the escapissed values.

    Comment by Robert — August 19, 2011 @ 3:05 pm

  769. Robert, I really do not appreciate your suggestions that I ought to be pogromed! That seems somewhat uncivil to say the least. I am sure that you yourself would hope never to be indicted on anything so flimsy as your own allegations against the Jews. Shame on you! As to the discussion you seek, I am now doing my best: Of course we are all well aware of the harassment of whistle blowers and dissidents, and the involvement of government or corporate interests therein. But it is difficult for me to discuss any wide scale corporate profiteering from gang stalking as you allege, let alone exotic energy weapons, because I am unaware of any such thing, much less in possession of any hard evidence to assay critically. I have not even succeeded in bringing to our agenda, any discussion at all upon standards of evidence. Indeed, it also seems like you are suggesting that you are personally targeted and subject to suggestions, intentional psychological warfare, via popular media. Do I understand you correctly? If so, I only hope that you can understand my credulity. I am also unclear how any history of whatever misdiagnosis pertains, serious as such can always be in its own right. Do you mean to suggest, that you yourself have correctly self diagnosed? And if so, what appropriate treatment might you be seeking? There are always aluminum foil hats to shield the brain.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 19, 2011 @ 3:10 pm

  770. The government can be sold, regardless of promissed policy so promoted. A word that sounds like
    ‘jerry-manda’ without checking on the spelling, voting seems like a wasted X-Sore-Size.

    Jerry Manda, yep that’s what it sounds like.

    Comment by Robert — August 19, 2011 @ 4:00 pm

  771. “But it is difficult for me to discuss any wide scale corporate profiteering from gang stalking as you allege, let alone exotic energy weapons,”

    especially, if you have a vested interest in spending other peoples money, wasted venture capitalizing etc.

    Comment by Robert — August 19, 2011 @ 4:07 pm

  772. The word you are looking for is: ‘gerrymander’. And even gerrymandering is hardly the worst of corrupt election tampering. I, for one, have not forgotten Votergate. But what of it?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 19, 2011 @ 4:09 pm

  773. Robert, I have no such vested interest. Lay of the Ad Hominem already. Answer to the point.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 19, 2011 @ 4:16 pm

  774. perhaps we could interest those *with* of alternative means of getting *wasted* ?

    Comment by Robert — August 19, 2011 @ 4:19 pm

  775. Or, if you like -

    Why should ANYONE tolerate such wasted investments, in the *popular* means of disposing of otherwise
    taxable revenue *raking* on materialistic values of *escapism* that cease to materialize anything worthy
    to the major materialism that has been achieved thus far ? Power is still measured in Watts, What ever
    that is ?

    Comment by Robert — August 19, 2011 @ 4:35 pm

  776. You’ve lost me, Robert. Whatever it is that you feel so urgent to discuss, you need to retain focus.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 19, 2011 @ 4:42 pm

  777. Those with the almighty dollar are those in power, goverments and their investments are only the puppets
    on the strings misguided by those that are with, intent to stay on top, to stay “rich & powerful” those with
    such aquired power will oppress and obliterate any weak power source, by any means just to stay on top
    of the la’ brayer pit.

    Comment by Robert — August 19, 2011 @ 4:53 pm

  778. I must agree: the machinations of the Fuax News and the Teabaggers are enough to make a sane man Marxist! But again, what of it?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 19, 2011 @ 5:00 pm

  779. Those with the shit, they sit on top of it, a giant stool of self importance, like, what a waste !

    Comment by Robert — August 19, 2011 @ 5:00 pm

  780. What if their stools of self importance and *expenditure* were exposed as a global health problem ?

    Public money that is being wasted on masking, via aromatherapy, a cover up, on just how bad the
    smell really is. Then obviously the tools of the shit heads should be public knowledge, why should
    ANYONE put up with such wasted human resources ? The rich and powerful control the sheep, via
    their controlling elected dual party pack. Have you not noted this activity ? it remains unchanged.

    But who are we to wash out their under-wear ?

    Comment by Robert — August 19, 2011 @ 5:14 pm

  781. Robert, first you simply ignored all I had to say about the reality of gang stalking and appropriate and setting. Then you complained bitterly about a lack of conversation about subject matter that you deem of such crucial importance. And now that I have attempt to address those issues to the best of my ability, you have gone rambling off first upon things that no one disagrees about, and then into the most vague, expansive and indecipherable generalities of social criticism and complaint. How do you even want anyone to respond?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 19, 2011 @ 6:07 pm

  782. Look Aaron – Forget your bullshit, brown shirts, rising fascism, pogrom hit list, bullies. What you
    do, is for little else, than for the sake of escapism from the ACTUAL TOPIC itself. You waffle on
    with the politics of your ideas of Gang Stalking but you are NOT SAYING WHO they are. Do you
    have any names, events and dates for your alledged victimization by this crime ?

    You generalize with utter drivel. You are extremely annoying. Many people on this topic, of this
    forum have told you many times to cease and desist, disappear etc with your perp orientated
    drivel. You don’t listen do you ?

    The corporations is what I exposed, well before Mudoch’ “News of the World” I pointed at him, more
    than 16 Months ago as being party to financing privacy violations, have you read my input on V2K
    smoking gun ? clearly not. I then figured Warner as being in reciept of stolen intellectual property
    that they have made serious money from – story lines that were not the writers work or efforts at all.
    Blatant theft of intellectual property.

    Dumping script and song passages on someone, grossly disturbing the T.I, usually an innocent
    person and cashing in on the stolen I.P. and heat. In 1993 a young man I knew and had worked
    with was driven out of his mind, stitched up against one of the character’s in a motion picture,
    whilst under production, later on this performace, by the actor was called a “most painful
    performance” by those critics that saw the finished product. My friend was found, in pieces
    on the railway tracks. He was persecuted by directed energy weapons used to dump the script
    character’s sequence on him. He had tapes of the disturbance that he wanted me to listen to
    but I had enough shit of my own to deal with, also in the process of recording such attacks.

    Gang stalking is part of big business, governments scrape revenue from big business and turn a
    blind eye to how the money was made. Sanctioned Crimes.
    Illegal wire taps, gang stalking and harassment, directed energy weapons to disturb – “did we get
    a response, a saleable reaction” ? Have you heard the expression “i would kill for a hit single”
    obviously not.

    Anthony Pelicano is doing 15 years for running illegal wire taps, in one of his storage offices was
    more than 10,000 pages of illegal phone taped recordings that had been put to paper.
    The attitude, in court of A.Pelicano was “So F’ing what – everyone is in on this practice” he showed
    absolutely no pity for the victims and no remorse. Countless innocent lives get destroyed, victims
    commit suicide others get scape goated and murdered, you know nothing about this stuff Aaron
    (or pretend not to) You aim is to derail the topic when it heads off in an appropriate *on topic*
    direction.

    Pelicano was a private investigator that made serious money from privacy violations, a fucking
    EVIL creep. The scum behind productions like ‘Big Brother’ are perversly teaching the next
    generations that privacy no longer exists, so get used to it.

    I wish those scum, behind such productions and working real life practices nothing more than ill will,
    death and their complete destruction.

    Some of this stuff was being off-loaded to song and script writers, the product story line eventually
    ‘smacks’ someone hard in the face, because it is personal information, and only about THEM, no
    one else. Serious money is being made out of the pain and suffering of innocent human beings.
    The human race seems to have more respect for the animals and how they are mis-treated in
    slaughter houses.

    The smack in the face is causal to psychological disturbance and the disturbance spreads like a
    contagous economic incentives of gang stalking UNDERMINES Gang Stalking, as in crime
    prevention.

    Comment by Robert — August 20, 2011 @ 7:07 am

  783. corrected text + some additional comment.

    The smack in the face is causal to psychological disturbance and the disturbance spreads like a
    contagion, the disturbance promotes unhealthy attention towards the T.I. (gang stalkers) and
    promotes sales attention to the *product* the narrow minded entertainers call it “A Wave”

    The exposure of the economic incentives for gang stalking UNDERMINES the practice of Gang
    Stalking, as in crime prevention. Recording subliminal attacks is not a wasted exercise because
    sooner or later a method of lifting the *subliminal* out of the audio mix will be realised. Then
    such *hits* will be loud and clear to all and not just the victims. When such attacks are part of
    the *original* recordings and products then massive law suits, whereby this crime will have no
    statute of limitations and claimants will be able to draw on historical evidence of being targeted.

    According to another researcher of this type of subliminal warfare, some recording engineers
    boasted that what was inserted “in the mix” will be impossible to extract as in sits harmonically
    with the instrument and vocals and therefore can only co-exist within the material. I look
    forward to the day I can kick those arseholes around a city block when they are proven wrong.

    Comment by Robert — August 20, 2011 @ 10:03 am

  784. Would anyone like to discuss what is one of the root causes of gang stalking ? the methods of selecting a targetted individual, how a crowd of ill wishing jealous, bored arseholes become involved in victimization of
    the T.I. even when it is just in their spare time, spent contributing to the harassment, following, mimic-ing and noise campaign generations etc ? You know stuff like -

    I was listening to this old song, that I had never heard before, it was on an album by a band called the stranglers
    the song was called ‘bear cage’ within a few weeks a stranger purchased the house across the street from me,
    and his nick-name was *bear* he gutted the house of many structural walls, turning the house into a reverberant
    boom box, like the acoustics of a bathroom (a big one) then a woman moved in, what is commonly called a loud
    mouth yobbo, who maintains a harassment method, that is also known as street theatre and a noise campaign.

    Now *bear* had this idea ( in his head ) that I was ‘hiting’ on him and he just had to do something about it…
    I seemed to be the source of his problems, yep a total stranger. I did’nt write the song bear cage ! Listening
    to it – so what ?

    So who put up this person to set up an ongoing attack of me ? Did the band “the stranglers” start cashing in
    on some stolen heat ? Yes their popularity grew out of the dust and yes they toured Australia again, they
    hadn’t been here since the mid 1980′s.

    Comment by Robert — August 20, 2011 @ 12:13 pm

  785. In 2007 the house behind me was sold, the person that purchased that particular home was the son of the
    owners of the production company that catered for The Stranglers Australian tour. Coincidence ? Nope
    it’s called associative exploitation. Also known as rock and roll by free-loading fleas.

    Comment by Robert — August 20, 2011 @ 12:28 pm

  786. “the methods of selecting a targeted individual”
    =====================================
    There are Commissions with bureaucrats of the formal government, of the military, of the central or federal police corps, bureaucrats of parliaments, academicians (“consultants”).
    Under the authorizations for the gang stalkings there are the signatures of Presidents, and Prime Ministers and Ministers.
    This is the formal process.
    The selection of the target is actually largely casual.
    There are program for criminality and terrorism creation and management, and programs for testing new military devices and techniques.
    Actually, the selection is largely casual, since gang-stalkings depends on the funding and for pretending new public funding.
    As a terrorist machine, gang-stalking must existed for terrorizing society. States/government are psychopathic-criminal machines and made of psychopaths and criminals.
    It is as prisons. It is irrelevant whether the inmates be innocent. They need prisons, even filled with innocents, for terrorizing those who are “free”. Idem gang-stalking.
    Roberto Scaruffi
    rscaru@gmail.com

    Comment by rscaru — August 20, 2011 @ 12:46 pm

  787. Gang Stalking and electronic surveillance, ‘scape goat’ generations, production companies in the
    entertainment industry, “multi win situation, for all of us” – quote was recorded in early 1993, voice
    identified as prime stalker No. 1 – name Jeremy Saxon Oxley – Mushroom Recording Artist –
    *sunnyboys* still on the take – just selling someone else out, stolen associative and gang stalking
    crimes. Memory modifications required ? – No Shrink shit, as you bath in corruption…

    Comment by Robert — August 20, 2011 @ 12:59 pm

  788. Bobo – fewer words…

    Comment by Robert — August 20, 2011 @ 1:05 pm

  789. Robert, first of all, do you disclose the sort of details that you now demand? To the extent that you do, I confess that I am simply not paying attention, because you have ignored both my requests for hard evidence and my call to an agenda of action. And secondly, why would I disclose such confidential details, even to the extent that I even know them, in the face of such hostility as yours? If I named perpetrating serial bullies, would you care? Unless we socialize in any of the same circles at all, I doubt you’ve ever heard of them, any more than two dogs miles apart, share the same fleas! And I won’t name any of my fellow targets of bullying at this time. I’m sure that you can understand.

    If as an investigative blogger, you’ve got the real scoop on the News of the World scandal, then congratulations and good for you. But I’m not the right person from whom to seek the byline credit. And I sincerely doubt that Murdock has anything to do with my own personal tribulations. I do not follow you as regards “script and song passages”. Are you alleging that prank messages are being beamed into your head? You also insist that gang stalking of entirely unremarkable private citizens, is likewise secretly orchestrated from the top as part of clandestine high tech weapons tests. But to reiterate, you have ignored both my requests for hard evidence and my call to an agenda of action. Therefore, I just don’t buy any of it. Why should anyone? You are just talking out your crazy ass, Robert!

    We must begin by acknowledging the differences in our respective world views. Robert, you ask: “Would anyone like to discuss what is one of the root causes of gang stalking ? the methods of selecting a targetted individual, how a crowd of ill wishing jealous, bored arseholes become involved in victimization[?]” Yes, me, I would, very much: When indeed I do speak in generalities, those generalities are entirely applicable, because where as you fantasize about deep and vast conspiracy, at http://www.FoolQuest.com/cliquebusters.htm I have compiled resources of expert knowledge together with personal experience of my own upon a modus operandi, and behavior set of a grass roots sociological phenomenon. That’s the way it actually works. If one describes how hyenas hunt in packs, one needn’t name specific hyenas or specific prey, nor is there any conspiratorial hyena god orchestrating it all. It’s merely Darwinian and advantageous. Bullying is the same. So is petty crime generally, for that matter.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 20, 2011 @ 2:04 pm

  790. Organized crime is not petty crime, exposure of gang stalking criminals as being a big part of the
    business of entertainment, this needs to be clearly understood and accepted without petty and
    pointless arguments by perpetrators.

    Corporate identities such as Murdoch who claims to be suffering from corporate schizophrenia syndrome,
    whereby he claims that he doesn’t have any knowledge of how his money is being spent on financing
    privacy violations and illegal wire taps – BULLSHIT, he keeps on doing it !

    The gang stalking that had been set upon me, in 1992 was indirectly financed by Murdoch (News Corp)
    Michael Gudinski (Festival Mushroom Records) recruited the stalkers, electronic harassment operators
    and had enough money (from Murdoch) to take care of any easily paid off corrupt police and politicians.
    Then again, why would they need to be paid off ? A simple program of forced slander, to perverse the
    justice system.

    Jeremy S. Oxley induced some kind of powerful neurotoxin into my frozen food, I have the hospital
    discharge summary from the evening of the 30th of December 1992, this was the evening that I ate the
    food that Oxley had tampered with. I didn’t suspect any foul play when I caught him with the container
    out of the freezer, lid off and looking inside, at this frozen food a week earlier.

    What ever the poison was, it heightened sensitivity, induced chronic fatigue that was ongoing, simple jobs
    that usually took a day, took three days to complete. Short term memory impairment reduced my working
    abilities.

    Part of the heightened sensitivity included receptivity to the V2K electronic assault, this initially led to sleep deprivation and the vicious circle of chronic fatigue. Ringing in the Ears or just one ear like Tinnitus or
    Hyperacusis (sensitivity to certain tones or sounds – repetitive exposure, via hypnosis could achieve this)

    I have found no one that is interested in prosecuting these criminals, publicly or via private prosecution.
    Until these scumbags are brought under the hammer, then it will be criminal business as usual. Corruption.
    Naming names and exposing ongoing crimes may have the desired effect of losing the scum, being discrete
    is a pointless waste to the exercise. With the recent “News of the World” scandal, my thoughts at the time
    were – Murdoch doesn’t stop, does he ?

    This is who some of the game players are, so go set the dogs on them. Watch these creeps and you will
    have the dogs barking up the right tree, hopefully train them to piss on the same.

    Comment by Robert — August 21, 2011 @ 3:45 am

  791. And I should simply accept your word on all of this? -Also, just to make sure that I correctly understand what you are saying, as the explanation for everyone’s problems including my own and not just yours?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 21, 2011 @ 2:49 pm

  792. Numerous reasons for gang stalking exist, NO ONE is arguing. But why should anyone have to tolerate
    gang stalking rock and roll dogs, in the entertainment industry, selling out innocent people, maintaining
    a slander agenda and perverting the course of justice. Many people would object to this, if they found out
    they were victims of such a crime, it’s a global problem. *stars* that are not that *special* when they are
    nothing more than parasites preying upon the efforts of innocent human beings. False Gods = Dogs.
    “The music industry is a shallow money trench….Blah, Blah Blah ” (H.S.Thompson) Hollywood is worse.

    Start at the top of the crime chain, progress downwards to the gold digger, that wishes to use gang stalking, directed energy weapons, gaslighting etc on it’s husband/wife. The crime at the top of the hill, that are
    exploiting innocents should be, for reasons of ease, the first entry to be culled. To suggest that gang
    stalking isn’t an issue in the entertainment industry would be stupidity. My professional involvement in
    the business spans more than 30 years. I walked out in 1988, only to be drugged, set-up, railroaded
    and dragged back in, in 1992 because such parasites felt there was more to be had, with further
    exploitation on their *mixed* agenda.

    The domino effect takes out the low life in this crime chain, when they realize they can’t buy or blast their
    way out of this kind of evil sh*t. How people are set up and railroaded by organised crime, who’s only
    goal is in cheating someone else. Depleted of anything left of themselves, willing to trespass upon and
    sell out the spirit of someone else. How they do this, is how they can be stopped. To be forwarned is
    to be prepared, if you wish for peace, stock pile weapons. Armed with useful information to expose
    what is still very much occultist, that is – guarded and hidden from common understanding.

    Comment by Robert — August 21, 2011 @ 5:18 pm

  793. I repeat: I should simply accept your word on all of this?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 21, 2011 @ 5:26 pm

  794. There are of course all manner of well established cases in journal of record, of abuse of power on the part of celebrities. This little I concede.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 21, 2011 @ 5:43 pm

  795. Words actually. What about thirty plus years of professional involvement ?, not just my own victimization
    but how innocent and not so innocent people were suicided. Gang Stalking is out of control, due to a lack
    of understanding the history behind it, A Jewish man named Jesus, heavily stalked, exploited and suicided.

    Comment by Robert — August 21, 2011 @ 5:53 pm

  796. I repeat: I should simply accept your word on all of this? I agree of course that all forms of bullying are quite out of control. Although it may bear mention that Yehoshua Bar Yoseph appears to have been a dissident under brutal Roman occupation.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 21, 2011 @ 6:44 pm

  797. Is was a Judaic metaphor.
    The historical Jesus was hanged, from a priest, 13 centuries before.
    http://www.ru.org/spirituality/egyptian-origins-of-the-judeo-christian-religion.html

    Comment by rscaru — August 21, 2011 @ 7:14 pm

  798. Thanks for the interesting link, rscaru. Not to digress, however. Robert, I put little stock in the occult, deliberately obscure, untestable, without scientific conditions of refutation or journalistic standards of credible corroboration. Bah, humbug! I should simply accept your word on all of this? Indeed, though you say that forwarded is forearmed, I still see no strategy from you, not even an action agenda.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 21, 2011 @ 7:34 pm

  799. “I have found no one that is interested in prosecuting these criminals” Might that be in any part because of your complete failure, nay: outright refusal, to present any coherent and credible case?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 21, 2011 @ 8:04 pm

  800. No sane prosecutor will proceed on the basis of signs and portents alone.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 22, 2011 @ 1:35 am

  801. I have enough evidence to achieve the desired result. You have’nt found the time to peruse what I have
    partially put forward on “V2K Smoking Gun” You have ignored the incident of how my frozen food was
    poisoned, by who and what then followed, in an ongoing systematic attack orchestrated by those who
    had something to gain from it, or so they thought.

    Madonna was in serious trouble after taking 60,000,000 U.S. dollars from Warner in April of 1992, she
    had nothing to offer them 6 Months later. The owner of Festival Mushroom Records, Michael Gudinski
    sold a hollow, shell of a company that lacked the assets of F.M.R to News Corp and Madonna’s Attorney
    - Paul D. Schindler looked after the paperwork shuffle on this ‘loan’ to Gudinski.

    Extracted from V2K smoking gun -

    ” The Warner Music Group (Australian Division) Acquired the assets, trademarks and large archive of
    master recordings, all the Mushroom Records Australia things that had some fiscal value in 2005.
    Murdock’s News Corp LTD got nothing of any value in 2 purchases during the 1990′s of Mushroom
    Records Australia. A whole lot of NOTHING for tens of millions of dollars. Money laundering to finance
    organised crime. You can view all this on the internet…
    It’s open literature so as to speak. Visit the Attorney’s resume on his site – Paul D Schindler ”

    Gudinski proposed, to his Mushroom recording artists, inclusive of J.S.Oxley that Warner were interested
    in ANY means of recovery from their mis-investment in Madonna & Maverick Records. What was to be in
    it for the Mushroom Records, Recording Artists ? GLOBAL distribution of their recordings via the WARNER
    group, that’s what. Money in other words. When the Warner Music Group (Australian Division) acquired the
    recordings in 2005, no such distribution took place, the Mushroom Artists had been bullshitted, but they
    could’nt complain based on their, drugging, set up, railroading, use of the law (inclusive of the courts)
    slander, BULLYING, thugging, murder (Jamie Fielding) gang stalking and harassment crimes, could they ?

    If only there was someone that could be wired up to promote attention to Madonna and Maverick
    associates, someone who had been there with a history of affiliation, to the burnt out ‘has been’ –
    Madonna who, back then, just had to keep going, or catch a Warner bullet – suicided, so Warner
    could *recover* what ever was left of ‘a bad investment’

    But what happened would be, all at the expense of an innocent man named Robert, Me, not to forget
    what followed, another man, also named Robert (Dewey Hoskins) followed by yet another man named
    Robert (Linhart)

    So for those that can understand what has occurred, In 1985 I was set up and used to promote attention
    to Madonna, without consent – molested, cheated, EXPLOITED the evidence of this is stored on public
    hospital records, which are state government records.

    In 1992 the same program returned, I had no way of defending myself against the massive amount of
    money that was injected into this crime. All I could do was collect evidence of their activities in this evil.

    Hoskins (1995) and Linhart (2010) are two victims caught in the crossfire of a program, that has been
    directed at me, for more than a quarter of a century. Madonna’s career is based on a stolen and
    manipulated *star* that is mine, not hers, or anyone else’s to ‘sell out’

    This crime can only end destructively and will be a Win for no one.

    Comment by Robert — August 22, 2011 @ 3:54 am

  802. If this is it, then you have no case, Robert. Because, as for all your allegations, again, am I simply to take your word for it? Because that is all that is still all that you have presented here. I do not believe you. There is no reason why anyone would. A reasonable person would at least realize how all that must sound to others. That is why I cannot take you seriously.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 22, 2011 @ 4:24 am

  803. Hey, that makes it easy Aaron

    “That is why I cannot take you seriously”

    THEN DON’T ! as you continue to fail to understand the ramifications of what these scum did to me
    and therefore themselves. Then again, I don’t think yours is a failure to understand, but like many
    petty jealousy, idiots that go looking for a dollar in someone else’s misadventure…

    Comment by Robert — August 22, 2011 @ 4:43 am

  804. Ad Hominem, much?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 22, 2011 @ 5:21 am

  805. What is it you seek from victims of this crime Aaron. ?

    What if there is really nothing in it for *YOU* or any perpetrator group you may represent, would you still
    hang out on the topic and abuse anyone that comes along with your devils advocate (perp jerk) approach?

    I really don’t think you are a victim, when you were asked how you were a gang stalking victim you went off
    with some B/S about science fiction. I aint buying it ! Your here for alternative purpose of extracting info,
    from others and intent on capitalizing on such information, when things don’t quite go your way you start
    the attack, all over again, that’s fine – but what is it for ? You ask the same questions differently and expect
    Different answers, you don’t get these and it really upsets you.

    Comment by Robert — August 22, 2011 @ 5:52 am

  806. No BS. I told you in what social context I among others suffer incessant gang stalking. You just aren’t interested. And you don’t dare answer my entirely reasonable questions and points. I’ve given you every chance and afforded you every benefit of the doubt possible. I’ve tried to engage you in rational discussion. But you just think other people simply owe it to you to swallow your incessant blather of incoherent tall tales uncritically.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 22, 2011 @ 6:37 am

  807. You wan’t everyone to look at you Aaron, they already have. Once again you don’t have a story to
    look at, into or otherwise entertain.

    Comment by Robert — August 22, 2011 @ 10:37 am

  808. Gang stalking and the Mental Health Care Club – Yes, of course such Evil has it’s placements within the
    club. Outsiders (stalkers) will also follow an individual into the hospital to interfere further with the target.
    Purpose ? – to keep you quiet and/or to learn more of what you may know.

    Remember what happened to me ? 1985 – Psychiatrist’s write in their hand writing – “communicates with
    the singer Madonna by telepathy and that they have made a pact to marry” & also “which he will use to
    build dams, etc in Eastern Africa”

    So 15 odd years later Madonna is investing in Eastern Africa. Coincidence ? NO, was Madonna really
    dancing on my mind, stealing the lime-light ? OR was someone masquerading for, and on behalf of
    “the American singer” ? – YES

    The Doctors & Nurses were not that interested in writing everything I had to say just enough to satisfy
    reasons for admission via the DSM.

    Now 25 years later Synthetic Telepathy is a Buzz word in the Pentagon.

    So Who were the experiMENTAL lab rats ?

    Non – Consenting randomly selected innocent people who had their lives ruined by the psychiatric
    labelling system when they attempted to expose the experiments. ? NO

    It should be obvious that we have been “Set-Up” “Put-Up”and “Fucked -Up” but according to the
    DSM this is paranoid delusions… IS IT ? – NO

    Comment by Robert — August 22, 2011 @ 11:08 am

  809. Aaron Quote – ” incessant blather of incoherent tall tales ”

    So who’s jealous ?

    Comment by Robert — August 22, 2011 @ 11:39 am

  810. Aaron’s comment # 417 – ” You offer no verifiable supporting evidence, or even much logic for that matter ”

    This was immediately after I had presented the un-altered and accurately transcribed doctors and nurses
    notes from 1985, which was comment # 416. It is, as it was then in full support of evidential value pertaining
    to gang stalking and synthetic telepathy via electromagnetic and electronic means, as in V2K (voice to skull)

    Aaron, when you attack valid evidence so supplied, you clearly indicate what your about, that is destroying
    victim complaints, case by case. Sooner or later no one will discuss anything with you, on this topic if you
    continue with such lauched, discrediting attempts at real victims and their stories.

    Remember what I have said –

    You don’t have a personal story to tell, so how dare you attack those that do, demanding answers from
    these people, to your questions, when you then consider nothing of what they are saying and run them
    down instead.

    You are not doing this topic any favours, nor are you helping any of the victims to understand what could
    very well be happening to them, as in common complaints about such crime.

    I shall ask the question once again –

    What do you wan’t from these victims Aaron ?

    If you can’t provide an answer, don’t expect me to answer any of yours. The comment – # 417 from you -
    “You offer no verifiable supporting evidence…” was how you looked at real transcribed information from
    1985 – it is evidence, that just can’t be dismissed, because you would like to bury it, that isn’t going to
    happen is it ? I don’t know what kind of mind altering substances you have, or still abuse, I don’t wan’t
    any…

    Comment by Robert — August 22, 2011 @ 1:38 pm

  811. I have no way of checking how accurately you transcribed those notes, or if they are even real. But what is stated in your transcription is that you are delusional. Though I admit that I really wasn’t very interested. I have failed to engage you rationally, to address the points and questions that I actually do find important. You just don’t relate. You won’t even respond when all I’m trying to do is check to see if I am even following you correctly on one point or another of your garbled narrative.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 22, 2011 @ 2:24 pm

  812. Since you ask, as a matter of principle, what I want from people who make outrageous claims instead of simply taking credulity as owed them, is respect for the intelligence of others, as demonstrated by any honest effort at national skepticism in order to support such claims. Otherwise, how are we even supposed to engage in any serious discussion? But to the actual point, I am calling for discussion upon setting an agenda: What I want from targets of bullying including gang stalking and such, is together to strategize, organize and actively defend ourselves. I would think that we’d all be only eager to begin.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 22, 2011 @ 3:49 pm

  813. what to avoid:
    “[...]TOGETHER to strategize, organize and actively [...]”
    ==============================================
    ==============================================
    Your superiority against State/government gang-stalkers is to act ALONE.
    ==============================================
    At least 90% of written materials is deception.
    Organizations are 100% controlled from governments.

    Comment by rscaru — August 22, 2011 @ 4:18 pm

  814. “Your superiority against State/government gang-stalkers is to act ALONE.”
    Oh yeah? How’s that been work’n for ya?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 22, 2011 @ 4:59 pm

  815. I did answer question put to me about my circumstances. And I have talked more about it as the matter came up in any way relevant. You have not shown the slightest interest. You only give me grief. Do you really want my personal story? Why, is this some bogus support group validation exercise? What would be the point? I have asked you about what sort of information you need from me and why. But you do not reply.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 22, 2011 @ 5:45 pm

  816. Aarons comments in # 812 – “I have no way of checking…or if they are even real”

    So you think it is all invented and lies – you are a half wit. I assure you nothing has been added
    changed or invented, that transcription (# 416) is FACT, word for word on the events of 1985.
    Those so called professionals are going to be more than sorry one day, so are their professions
    when they get taken apart, the power triping scum.

    Names of the Police, Doctors, Nurses, the Dates, the Times on a twenty four hour clock, the name
    of the Hospital. The forced induction of unwanted medications. Fabrication of reasons for admission
    into the hospital.

    ALL VERY ACCURATE INFORMATION, deliberate mis-diagnosis as in corruption, hell on earth for
    their kind is coming. Massive law suits, executions, world war three, the end of the zionist world…
    I won’t shed a tear.

    Aarons comments also in # 812 – ” But what is stated in your transcription is that you are delusional ”

    According to who – A slanderous, un-qualified, pervert. A piece of Perp trash that loiters on a
    forum topic attacking victims. The effects of being gang stalked and psychologically interferred with
    via V2K eventually lead to delusional episodes, what more evidence could be presented ?

    What of the Eastern Africa delusional content, just coincidence that Madonna commenced investment
    15 years later ? or a joint delusional episode from an Australian & an American, 2 people that had never
    met sharing the same mental illness via synthetic telepathy, from one part of the planet to another ?

    Aarons comments also in # 812 – ” Though I admit that I really wasn’t very interested ”

    Stating the obvious again, Aaron is only interested in Aaron. No more, shall I have to do with the likes
    of you, or any sock puppets that may come along on this forum topic that seem to be you trying on
    alternative perversion into the misadventure of others. Then only to attack them out of some kind of
    perverse envy & sick sport. You are an EVIL man Aaron, so burn in hell with your buddy Lucifer.

    Comment by Robert — August 23, 2011 @ 1:42 am

  817. Robert, if you where anyone else, would you just take your word? Not that I actually have that much difficulty believing that you where indeed diagnosed as delusional. How any of that constitutes an investment opportunity for Madonna quite eludes me.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 23, 2011 @ 3:14 am

  818. PS. You, Robert, are the one engaged in such virulent truth suppression and disruption of all serious conversation, you are the one in such determined opposition to organizing and taking any action, but I’m the evil one? Oh irony.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 23, 2011 @ 11:36 pm

  819. “We were all created equally, then along comes poaching scum on power trips and all will be destroyed
    equally…”

    I do agree. But what makes scum scum, and what makes it poach? Isn’t it all the little power trips slightly privileged people are on, that makes the unprivileged feel sleazy in comparison, and finally angry – up to revenge? Many – if not most – evil (an anagramm of “vile”, sic!) power-trippers made their way from the literal shoeshineboy to the position their in, ready to abuse the power gained, like it was abused upon them. Not to sugarcoat anything, but all i can see is a massive lack of love in interpersonal affairs – including the gangstalking phenomenon we’re discussing here. Why can’t we just stop and change our little dealings to the better, like in late Michael Jackson’s:

    “I’m Starting With The Man In The Mirror
    I’m Asking Him To Change His Ways
    And No Message Could Have Been Any Clearer
    If You Wanna Make The World A Better Place
    Take A Look At Yourself, And Then Make A Change”

    A tall order for one being gangstalked, i know. I tried it several times, and i always got caught in the omnipresent trap channelling my anger upon gangstalkers in various form, yelled, spoken and written, and that’s what they live on. But if there’s no chance, why not take it again and again?

    Comment by Michael — August 24, 2011 @ 3:36 pm

  820. Effective defense and resistance is challenging enough, do you seriously yearn to redeem our abusers? If actually so, then I would caution that to such an agenda, even slim hope at all comes only from first gaining a position of strength and advantage, because cooperation will be unlikely no matter the intensity of love, sweet reason or moral indignation. Ignoring that salient truth simply flirts with Masochism.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 24, 2011 @ 7:33 pm

  821. I got great help from a humble view upon it during the 90s, but I must admit that i lost the grip along the way, with all that slight, and then they even made me the scapegoat for their own spite, which makes altruism very hard to attain. Anyway, whats wrong with changing my attitude towards it? Like christians and buddhists do, with charity and karma concepts, or other mentally helpful views of life? It’s not masochism, it’s the spiritual insight that good comes from good, just like bad creates bad. Gangstalkers don’t create good, that’s for sure, and in consequence, they must answer for what they do, just like anyone else. That’s a very helpful aspect of i.e. the karma concept.

    Comment by Michael — August 25, 2011 @ 10:36 am

  822. My question is of feasibility. But then, you have not actually presented any strategy. Do you think that you have any viable strategy? Moreover, you are mistaken in claiming that gang stalkers accomplishes no good, because they clearly do good for themselves at the expense of others who are harmed. And I believe that it is important that they made to atone, meaning that they must be stripped of all benefit and advantage accrued from abuse of others. They will not cooperate, they will not explain or apologize. This enemy will never yield to universal love, transcendental piety, sweet reason or moral indignation. None of that will change their attitude. Now, as for changing your/our attitude, indeed, this is war and we gotta toughen up and begin taking effective action. Or, you can try to make yourself feel better without improving anything. This is a very popular idea and a pervasive tool of oppression, religion the famous opiate of the masses. Know more at http://www.FoolQuest.com/zen.htm#pill

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 25, 2011 @ 2:39 pm

  823. “This enemy will never yield to universal love, transcendental piety, sweet reason or moral indignation.” Agreed. But what if I do?

    Comment by Michael — August 26, 2011 @ 10:03 am

  824. Michael, good points. Worthwhile practice, as well…

    “Keep your enemy even closer” “Love thy enemy” “Sleeping with the enemy” “Crime of the Century”

    To ignore the enemy, and the subtle mind control methods and attempted behavioural
    modifications, by those that are commonly abused by gang stalkers, does indeed guarantee
    what encourages the generation of easily witnessed and electronically recordable attacks.

    Subtle provocations…
    E.V.P ? No, Don’t stare into the light, don’t tune into noise sources. Keep busy !

    Such evidential values then, shall not go un-punished, essence is in the values and
    that requires something that smells…

    Comment by Robert — August 26, 2011 @ 10:58 am

  825. From the crowd that witnesses, the odour of fowl play exposed. The evidence that just can’t be
    dismissed, by those on the nose.

    Yet those that carry the stench away, environ-mentalists, still on a wave. The justice ?

    We all get to live and breath another day.

    Comment by Robert — August 26, 2011 @ 11:26 am

  826. Aaron: “This enemy will never yield to universal love, transcendental piety, sweet reason or moral indignation.” Michael: “Agreed. But what if I do?” Maybe nothing. What are you driving at. Michael? Besides, one does not choose how one feels any more that what one really believes, one feels how one actually feels given who one is and under whatever circumstances. Self honesty is paramount.

    Robert, have you a plan to draw the bullies out into more overt harassment, and then video record it? You know that since I am the very spawn of the devil, I will only network through the Freemasons in order to warn them! But seriously, wouldn’t it be more effective to have your own surveillance team involved, or even infiltrators? Would such not be a desirable resource? How can you deny the value of organizing? Who’s side are you really on?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 26, 2011 @ 4:43 pm

  827. Debauchery, saleable marketing commodities, of planned obsolescence and failure -
    (microsoft)… sleaze, alcoholism, drug abuse, escapism and the deflagration of the human
    spirit, by the western Zionistic controlled world. (Hangover 3 ? a Zionist production)

    To draw a line between spiritual Belief and Reality. Then to remove it ! Programs such as
    ‘Big Brother’ that encourage a total lack of privacy that reflects upon the next generations
    and influences, will only encourage ‘conflict’ between Muslims and western ‘accepted
    religions’ will guarantee conflict. The reason ?

    Western orientated societies have a need for Muslim resources – Black Gold, Texas T…

    Behavioral modifications that require that the Zionists stay in control, without being
    questioned, i.e. – False Flag operations via subtle mind control programs. Those that
    no longer submit to the Zionist Media are targeted. So much for freedom of thought.

    Comment by Robert — August 27, 2011 @ 11:24 am

  828. So anti phase behavioural modification could be a good thing ?

    & we all live in denial…

    Comment by Robert — August 27, 2011 @ 2:39 pm

  829. Congratulations Robert, once again you are no less obscure, disconnected, irrelevant and unintelligible and yet somehow no less bigoted and offense.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 27, 2011 @ 5:30 pm

  830. Gang stalking to some idiots is nothing more than a game, a sadistic sport that targets individuals that
    are not known to the stalkers, who being nothing more than idiots feel safe, in their cowardly numbers.

    I have seen first hand how police are manipulated by senior police when a police informant gets it’s
    cover blown. I have experienced what happens when a targeted individual needs police assitance and
    the police ignore the request for assistance, this is even when evidence that stands up, in a court of
    law, is at first rejected. Wrong place at the wrong time, a work associate in the electronic security
    services industry has had a person, that is known to me, as a police informant placed in their home as
    a tenant.

    Fearing for the womans safety, I reported to the woman (the work associate) that her friends in the
    police service were not her friends at all. Many that would kill the informant, for what he had done to
    them would not think twice about switching her lights off, to remove such a witness.

    In stupidly the woman did not accept what I was saying, about the threat that she was living with, told
    her so called ‘friends’ in the police service what I had said, to her in confidence. That was back in
    1991, what happens to an innocent man who is denied access to the police service, what kind of scum
    would take advantage for the own purposes and gains of a person so victimised ?

    What could be *had* from the T.I. (the victim of circumstances) via rock & roll miscreants with impunity ?
    Watch what happens to such corrupt dirt when they are exposed for this incident and eternally damned
    for it. Magistrates, that went insane and police that live in fear, for what they went along with.

    Precurses for WW3, when all have had enough of the high level of corruption, the puppets get their
    strings cut and hit the floor like a pile of spineless jelly, then burn in fires of hell for ever more.

    Comment by Robert — August 28, 2011 @ 3:20 am

  831. Dramatic but fragmentary.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 28, 2011 @ 5:14 am

  832. Michael mentions in one of his posts the process of soul searching, what could he have
    done to deserve this. A standard in ‘gaslighting’ a victim is to create as many ‘incidents’
    as possible, to maintain the disturbance. Some events that are designed to maintain the
    Disturbance are fictional, probably most of such attacks.

    They were invented and enforced as *reality* the motives are usually to detract and suppress
    as in false flag operations. Create an incident, point the blame at another party, persons
    or belief and avoid detection of the true motivations. False flag activities have always been
    associated with the zionists.

    Exploitation within the entertainment industry, which is run by zionists, frequently sets up
    and persecutes innocent people, promotes attention to it’s product and blames someone
    else, if the T.I. gets wise, to the facts, of his/her misadventure.

    It was suggested recently that the unit of anti-semitism, as a measure of level, there of,
    should be the unit of “Gibsons” as in Teslas. Farads, Henries, Amperes, Watts and so forth.

    I do not think anti semitism is worthy of unit quantification, because anti semtism is bullshit, a
    cheap slur, an offensive and slanderous remark used by criminals that hide behind an
    outpost of religion.

    Comment by Robert — August 28, 2011 @ 6:00 am

  833. Blah, Blah, Black sheep have you any wolves ?

    Comment by Robert — August 28, 2011 @ 6:13 am

  834. I posted: “This enemy will never yield to universal love, transcendental piety, sweet reason or moral indignation.” Then Michael you responded: “Agreed. But what if I do?” Answer: What, just switch your emotions like turning off a light bulb? Seriously? And the result? -you ask… Maybe nothing. What are you driving at. Michael?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 29, 2011 @ 3:05 pm

  835. @Aaron “Self honesty is paramount. ” Sure, but i must mention that i’m not free from shivers of love and forgiveness now and then. Comes along with an anxiety disorder – which, somehow, equals deeper understanding without a caring fundament – but there ain’t no such thing as a free lunch, i suppose. So, i’m not estranged from the basic christian virtue “as we forgive those who trespass against us.”. Sometimes, however, i get so bitter and disappointed by the ways and means of my “gangstalking-community”, that “higher attendance” seems unlikely. But then again, like a sunray out of an overcast sky, i get touched by some vibe that changes my mind to the better. Speaking of “strategies”: this can’t be much of a strategy, as it’s much rather some kind of mercy, but it shouldn’t be underestimated at all.
    @Robert “Crime Of The Century” was one of my favourites back then. Never thought it would affect my life in such a non-literal way…

    Comment by Michael — August 29, 2011 @ 4:40 pm

  836. Crime Of The Century, Yes Corrupt police that would do anything to save face, their important informants
    that are paid off in drugs to coerce, create incentives that are usually financial and to silence anyone who
    may see the wrong side of how these so called public servants only cater for themselves, keeping the drug
    crime alive, the politically acceptable ‘economic stimulus package’

    ” You are living with a police informant and a heroin user, see this carbon stain and the back of your spoons ?
    this is evidence of someone using, part of his injection preparations. I was told to watch out for him in 1988,
    that he was an informant and he had set a lot of people up in the Bondi area. Do you understand that the
    Marrickville councilor has it in for you Alexis ? The cops that put this informant in your home, to help you
    with mortgage payments are not your friends, they are friends of the councilor”

    In 1992 I caught up with one of the people that had lived in Bondi and he told me about this police informant
    “No suspicious circumstances, was found dead of an amphetamine overdose” In the later half of December
    1992 I went downstairs from my residential/commercial rental situation, that was above a shop.

    I had a hired video to return (an overnighter) to the video rental place across the street, as a looked down
    the road for oncoming traffic, I noticed a man dressed smartly all in black, wearing sun glasses (it was night-
    time) he was looking in the window of another video store, not the one I was returning the hire to. I realized
    I knew the man, it was Jeremy Saxon Oxley. I approached him and said “hi Jeremy, what are you doing
    here ? ” The response was not what one would expect from someone that you hadn’t seen or spoken to
    for over a year. – “Not now, I’m here on police business, I’m doing some work for the detectives”

    No he wasn’t, he had no business in the area, didn’t want me to see him, as he was stalking me. How little
    I knew back then about this threat to my personal safety. How little I knew about rock & roll, gang stalking
    wanna be stars, which prey upon the potential of another human being, especially when the police aren’t
    going to get involved. That was easily organized and orchestrated – Open Slather – opportunistic Mushroom Recording Artists, now that’s the crime of the century. Oxley – “Multiwin situation for all of us”

    The repetitious hounding in 1995 through to 1996 of this suggestion, at me – “Crime of the Century” the
    Entertainment industry goes on a feeding frenzy to snatch up hounded ‘buzz words’ that they can make
    use of, as mentioned before – attempted approaches to communicate with the attorney Paul D Schindler,
    throughout 1993 and in early 1994 the announcement of the latest ‘speilbinder’ production – Schindler’s
    List. Stalked, harassed, endlessly hounded by industrial disease looking for attention, at someone elses
    expense. The next consequent hounding installment – “There is no Defence”

    They are not your own thoughts and such hounding is a directed assault, usually by the creeps and
    sleaze that are stalking you.

    Comment by Robert — August 30, 2011 @ 12:53 am

  837. Michael, I am confused: First you pose the question “what if” suggesting the contemplation of a deliberate choice, but now you tell me rather that that forgiveness may come to you genuinely. What is your question, then?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 30, 2011 @ 2:03 am

  838. Sorry for the befuddling, it was more of a rhetorical question, remembering that now and then a more “spiritual” attitude helps to get a grip. Not all the way, not for good, but every once in a while. Hoping and praying for more, however.

    Comment by Michael — August 30, 2011 @ 9:24 pm

  839. Whatever quells anxiety, I suppose, but hopefully without also difusing motivation to effective action.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 30, 2011 @ 10:07 pm

  840. Losing my Religion – R.E.M -

    “I set it up, Consider this, Consider this

    – The hint of the century -

    Consider this, The slip that brought me To my knees… failed
    What if all these fantasies Come flailing around”

    “Crime Of The Century” replaced the original lyrics – The hint of the century – this continued from
    1995 through to 1996 when the movie of the same name ” Crime of the Century ” was released.
    “There is no defense” was used as a sub title annexed to a movie with Demi Moore around the
    same time.

    When I listened to a YouTube of REM’s Losing my Religion, today, the *hit* – Crime of the century
    is no longer present, when I listen to tapes, recorded from the radio back in 1995 the *Crime* is
    part of the lyrics.

    So this kind of electronic harassment is performed by someone (those stalking & gas lighting)
    close by with a low power transmitter tuned to the same frequency (or slightly off centre) to dump
    what is called “Splatter” a term to describe over lapping transmissions.

    Those performing such a gas lighting act of harassment do not need to be near the transmitter and
    could be anywhere in the world, monitoring the *reaction* to their projected attacks. Satellite channels
    could easily accommodate this criminal activity. So could standard telecommunications systems, land
    lines etc.

    They just need a creep and a spook house nearby to the targeted person for the transmitter and
    associated surveillance technology. It really is a no brainer after all.

    Exposure of these methods and motivations will (I hope) lessen the effectiveness of such attacks which,
    I believe are used for no purpose, other than exploiting a targeted individual to promote attention to a
    product in the pipeline. From the psychological disturbance comes the wave of psychological attention,
    to some otherwise lame entertainment industry product that is reliant on making someone sick for such
    gainful promotions. The attention so obtained has been acquired criminally.

    This *Gas Lighting* combined with subtle suggestion from street theatre makes for a powerful promotional
    tool when a movie of the same *words* is announced in main stream media.

    Repetitive attempts to talk to Paul D. Schindler throughout 1993 about this type of harassment through Madonna’s recordings, wherever I went, the disturbing drivel would follow, personal aspects of my
    private life interlaced/inserted with her lyrics. These assaults were recordable and reproducible.

    In early 1993, as per the advice of the late Caresse Henry, to report the matter to Madonna’s Attorney
    (Schindler) then to have “SCHINDLERS LIST” pushed in the main stream media in early 1994, after
    being IGNORED by P. D. Schindler for almost a year, which included attempts by phone, fax and even
    sending the man a complaint on video tape, laying out, what was happening to me, in early February of
    1994. Little did I know then, that Schindler was in bed with Gudinski (Festival Mushroom Records) and
    News Corp (Murdoch)

    They are all in it together, they will all fall apart together. Forgive and forget the relentless ? No Way
    I would rather sit back and watch the premier of “Cleansed by Fire” which appears to be the only option
    for justice – death and destruction of their criminal enterprise, through disclosure, will come about closure.

    Comment by Robert — August 31, 2011 @ 1:50 pm

  841. When the incentives for gang stalking, electronic harassment, intimidation, drugging with a mind
    altering substance are financially rewarding, then it is easier to put into perspective the reasons
    why the gang stalking continues.

    When a persons credibility is undermined with suggestion, that is placed by force – “he gave up
    your informant”, for example, which is distorting the facts, then these incidents lesson respect for
    you, by the authorities. Do you need police assistance, they are’nt their for you and then they are
    not in the way of the perpetrators.

    When the gas-lighting is so unbelievable, due to the extent and amount of it, then this is precisely
    what happens – the psychiatrists don’t accept what is being reported and the victims are then further
    abused by the methods outlined in the diagnostics statistics manual (DSM)

    So the shrinks play by the book like any other profession. What happens when the complaint, by the
    victim is proven to be true ? Do the shrinks try to save face by insisting that their diagnosis was correct ?
    They were adhering to the DSM. Do they scratch through information, that they can continue to distort
    or admit that they are party to a crime by siding with the enemy ?

    There is not much point in expecting these people to be sorry, or to compensate for damages, because
    the crime hasn’t stopped, has it ? I only pray for their destruction, for they are beyond any forgiveness,
    evil will eventually meet it’s end and I won’t be bragging about the warnings that were ignored for more
    than a quarter of a century. Their Evil, Biased F**king System.

    A person who I once believed was my friend, said this about a year ago – “You must have done some-
    thing to deserve it” that was the final point in my friendship with this man, as he was becoming more
    and more a friend of the enemy than he had ever been, in the previous 28 years, that I thought I knew
    him. He used to play down the gas-lighting incidents as bullshit and coincidences.

    When I proved otherwise he then maintained an attitude of so f..king what and became more and more
    Hostile, like he had something to hide, something to fear or something to lose and was party to the set-
    up and exploitation. He then sold up all his Assets, inclusive of his house and bought 1.5 million dollars
    of made up, mint stored gold and disappeared out of my life. Coward.

    It was like he was on someone’s payroll, as a controller/handler and that employment opportunity expired.
    Beware of Parasites. Those you might be trusting, may be sleeping with the enemy reporting your
    personal thoughts, behaviour and selling you out – your intellectual property – to the highest bidder, etc.

    They could be keeping more than an eye on you, for their own advantage – So trust no one, live in
    isolation and die is misery…UNLESS the system gets whacked and you get to watch the end of days !
    Now that would be entertaining to a victim.

    Comment by Robert — September 1, 2011 @ 12:57 pm

  842. On a spiritual note -

    Consider that the perpetrators have constructed a wave of exploitation upon your planet, or star, in
    the heavens and are intent on maintaining the wave via the gas-lighting, gang stalking and harassment
    etc. So what can you do ? these fairies are trespassing against your will, they have set up shop on
    distant real estate, that is not theirs to mine and sell out. Cleanse with fire, you are upon this earth
    they are not, they get burnt badly and you dont notice a change in temperature.

    Comment by Robert — September 1, 2011 @ 2:18 pm

  843. There has been heated argument over identifying the topic content of this thread. A better question might be as to our agenda. Once again, I propose discussion upon agenda.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 1, 2011 @ 4:46 pm

  844. Anyone smell the smoke ? – me neither…

    Comment by Robert — September 1, 2011 @ 5:19 pm

  845. Many organizations exist for human rights violations issues, there are even forums dedicated to
    the topics of electronic harassment, gang stalking, gas-lighting, etc with hundreds of contributors,
    that is contributing authors.

    Peacepink comes to mind as being a forum dedicated to this topic. The complaints are, in general
    gripe sessions without any names, methods and the like. Those on such forums, that are naming
    perpetrators and their corporate identities are not attracting the attention of war faring prosecution.

    If the desired END result can’t be obtained by legally ‘kicking butt’ then torch the methods used by
    the perpetrators, their consorting membership and hopefully destroy investor interest to achieve
    the same destructive END results. Simple.

    Comment by Robert — September 1, 2011 @ 5:39 pm

  846. In identifying the root cause, behind such crimes as gang stalking, we first need to accept the that
    the root cause of such evil is MONEY, we need to then expose revenue raking activities to further
    understand the sanctioning of such crimes by our fearless, faceless governments. To persist with
    a protective agenda for organized criminal corporations would be anything but a proactive approach
    to taking such crime A P A R T.

    Expose the financial incentives, embarrass the investors. A certain individual once said “Forgive them
    Father, for they no not what they do” TELL them what they are doing, if they persist then forgive them
    not, burn their evil butts instead.

    Comment by Robert — September 1, 2011 @ 6:04 pm

  847. As I am sure you well understand, Robert, explicit agenda helps dispel the smoke.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 1, 2011 @ 6:07 pm

  848. “we first need to accept the that the root cause of such evil is MONEY”
    ==============================
    …Generally militians used for gang-stalkings are NOT paid…
    …Secret Police officers steal the money for themselves…!!!

    Comment by rscaru — September 1, 2011 @ 6:32 pm

  849. Remember that a lot of the gang stalkers feel good and powerful in their cowardly numbers, if they LEARN
    that they are victimizing an innocent person then, those controllers and handlers of such perpetrator activities
    will attempt to place variations on the rumors, failing that, they then run.

    What is left behind is a neighborhood of frightened locals with blood on their hands, with little chance that
    they will open up to the victim, for fear of prosecution BECAUSE they are/were party to organized crime.

    The only chance then is to get one of them to shoot their mouths off, as in bragging and from what I have
    seen, when this happens, the braggart ends up dead – suicided, controlled ‘accidents’ , no known cause
    of death etc. This, then has a suppressive effect among the remaining “red hands crowd”

    Much of the gang stalking is motivated by money and money talks, mostly shit. So using the same method
    money could be used to track down those that are financially motivated, these are the controllers and
    handlers, forget the low life in the food chain of gang stalking, as they are misguided fools, that submitted
    to the lies and deception, so presented to encourage them.

    Methods of dealing with a king pin (handler/controller) will require informational extraction which could be
    obtained through the use of blackmail, or threats of imprisonment, last resort is getting heavy. Remember
    they are not going to let go of the identity/identities that line their pockets, that easily. Once again from what I have seen, in the past they would die first, suicide – NO – suicided, there is a difference…

    Comment by Robert — September 1, 2011 @ 6:45 pm

  850. Another method of obtaining information, on the motivations of those, that are *in* on the gang stalking
    and harassment is to set them up, this is dangerous as from personal experience they go from covert to
    overt and so, make sure the local law are willing to serve restraining orders, that is apprehended personal violence orders obtained from the local court house.

    In my own experience, of the mid 1990′s the ‘handler’ was not served the orders so obtained from the
    chamber magistrate, the court room clerk could not understand why, after the matter for mention was
    listed 3 times, stood down, out of the list, on the third date.

    Corrupted police, by corrupt politicians sharing the spoils, of the exploitation. The handler was a foreign
    national (British) and well connected, in the entertainment industry business, who was given the chance to
    run, back to England, and run he did (Anthony Perry Gannon)

    Comment by Robert — September 1, 2011 @ 7:13 pm

  851. The set up, involved the low life in the food chain, Gannon’s motivation, besides money was a need to ‘even
    the score with me’ he was led to believe that I was ‘hitting’ on him. Paul Kelly (Festival Mushroom Records)
    wrote a song that included the name Gannon, the same song also included the names Frank & Mary, who
    were my fathers parents names (my grand parents) Gannon knew nothing about Paul Kelly, like a misguided
    missile came after me. He told the low life that he was going to make them rock stars, all they had to do was
    disturb me, that they did – night and day.

    So the handler (Gannon) was not seen as being actively involved in the ongoing disturbance, this is typical
    of handlers and controllers – the use of others to do the dirty work. The set up consisted of playing music
    accompanied by electric bass guitar, I used to play for hours and my private practice sessions were recorded
    for the purpose of intellectual property theft, by Gannon. I recovered an F.M. radio transmitter and microphone
    from underneath my studio room, this after I saw Gannon go under the house, when he thought I was out
    one day.

    What I did was then to play parts of songs, never to finish them, then to go to another song, with a
    completely different arrangement, sometimes a jazz part, sometimes rock and not fluent or saleable
    as a piece – incomplete, not arranged.

    One day the low life came down and punched a hole in my front door…with threats of violence and
    attempted unlawful entry to action the threats, assault none the less.

    The unfinished songs were none of their business anyway, I wasn’t selling tickets to a gig. Numerous
    Bass guitar lines, inclusive of melodies played on the same and different instruments ‘popped’ up over
    the next few years in numerous songs of commercial release and success, by artists that I had never
    heard of and those that I didn’t want to know.

    I refused to listen to, or submit to any product releases by Madonna, vacated stores if the background
    music went Madonna, Take-Over’s of the radio station by a local transmitter with knowledge of what the
    stores, that I regularly shopped at, tuned into, by the stalkers OR by – payola – that is, the stalkers ring
    the radio station, tell them what the next song is going to be…and how much it is going to be worth to them.
    A brand new copy of “something to remember” was pushed under my door, not a single finger print
    on the packaging. Subtle disturbance + T.I. = attention to starving artist – starved of T.I’s attention.

    The low life were arrested, cautioned and served with restraining orders. They were never charged for the
    assault on the premises, the threats of violence, etc. The reason ? according to the police officer (Amanda
    Devine) “They have no prior convictions” One of the low life, in the gang stalking food chain was named
    Robert Hooker, the other remained nameless – we’re *gonna* be rock stars was their chant… There goes
    the name ‘Robert’ again, moving in on top for a little game of identity theft, assault, threats of violence
    thuggery, theft of intellectual property – as in assisted theft, there of. Low life’s ideas on what Rock n Roll
    is about. Gannon’s chant – “He’s got a ticket – use it or lose it”

    Comment by Robert — September 1, 2011 @ 8:54 pm

  852. On September 1, 2011 @ 6:32 pm rscaru posted:
    “we first need to accept the that the root cause of such evil is MONEY”
    ==============================
    …Generally militians used for gang-stalkings are NOT paid…
    …Secret Police officers steal the money for themselves…!!!

    Reply: How do gang stalkers qualify as a militia? -All gang stalkers without exception?

    Also, as a generality, indeed it might be reasonable to assert that secret police tend to be corrupt and criminal. Or is there any further inference as to actual current circumstances?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 2, 2011 @ 6:21 pm

  853. “Or is there any further inference as to actual current circumstances”

    Inference is speculation, this is useless and only maintains the non values in the topic, as it has no evidential
    purpose that enables further investigations and so leads nowhere. Names, Dates, actual events and not speculative drivel is what is required to assist with a workable agenda, to expose and dismantle the systems
    of gang stalking. If the motivations for gang stalking lack associative directions to the financiers, then the
    topic goes nowhere, a futile exercise in time wasting.

    Comment by Robert — September 3, 2011 @ 12:32 am

  854. Incidents that are re-occurring are not coincidences and collective input on such events can then be regarded
    as patterns. Patterning is an important part of gang stalking. Repetitive noise campaigns, whereby the noise
    is someone creating the patterns of repetitious noise that lacks productive purpose.

    For an example of patterning, via noise campaigns -

    A neighbor close by to the T.I. will come out every second night at the same time and start picking up pieces
    of timber from a stack of building materials and drop them on the stack, to set up the noise. They will do this
    over and over, they are not looking for a specific piece of timber and their activity is without purpose. It occurs
    at the same time of 11pm, every second night.

    When the T.I. silently reacts, that is they focus on the noise source and the person making the noise stops, walking away calling out loudly – “Up Him, Up Him, put him up”

    Question – Up to What ?

    Comment by Robert — September 3, 2011 @ 4:02 am

  855. In early 1993 I received a phone call from Jeremy Saxon Oxley, “I am the pharaoh Tutankhamen”
    I thought and said what the f*ck are you on about Jeremy ? His response -

    “You are up for psychiatric evaluation” he then hung up. What happened then was I was overcome by
    this high pitched noise, that is not unlike the symptoms of a tinnitus attack, the left hand side of my head
    was hurting, like there was some kind of pressure upon it.

    Comment by Robert — September 3, 2011 @ 4:31 am

  856. It wasn’t until March of 1995 that I had memories of Jeremy messing with my frozen food, all I remembered was
    the effects of the poisoning and self hospital admission on the evening of the 30th of December 1992, which
    was within about half hour of eating the food, that Oxley had dosed.

    When the poison, mind altering substance took effect, my visions went to everything looking like I was looking through red cellophane, total loss of balance, as I remember having to follow a path towards help by leaning against a wall. I do not know what these are the symptoms of, the food was fine before Oxley *adjusted* it.

    I was picked up, off the street footpath by the shop owner, the shop that was open, that I was headed towards for help – “Wake up, wake up – you can’t stay here” was what I remember as I came out of being unconscious, with the shop owner shaking me up. I had my pager on me and my wallet, but my keys had gone missing.

    I prepared the food, personally and froze what I didn’t consume, on the night of preparation. There were no
    problems with eating this food, when I had made it fresh and ate part of it. This rules out food poisoning.

    So covert drugging, as part of gang stalking activities was first revealed to me in 1992, although memories, of
    the event were not until March of 1995.

    Comment by Robert — September 3, 2011 @ 5:52 am

  857. Find my standing rebuttal to all of such as above tripe, now extensively revised and expanded, at: http://www.FoolQuest.com/cliquebusters.htm#orchestrated

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 3, 2011 @ 7:22 pm

  858. It’s a pity one of the moderators dont do something about Aaron Agassi’s use of this forum
    topic to continually promote attention to his own interests to his Quest for being a Fool.

    Their is nothing relevant or related to gang stalking, harassment & intimidation at the site
    he keeps pushing and so he pushes harassment & intimidation at victims of gang stalking
    on this site. A perpetrator set to defend the criminals behind the gang stalking.

    Comment by Robert — September 4, 2011 @ 3:38 am

  859. Quoth the flaming Neo Nazi troll

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 4, 2011 @ 7:05 am

  860. Not everyone that has been exploited by the Zionist network are Nazi. Get a life Agassi.
    Do you regard the theft of Palestine by the Jews, mainly of Russian & Polish extraction
    to be fair ? Do you think Palestinians are Nazis, Aaron ? So when someone tells their
    personal story of being exploited by the zionist network, you reject it, call them anti -
    semites and persecute them. Like I said – PERPETRATOR, you have no constructive
    input on this forum, persecuting victims by suggesting that their stories are Bullshit.
    How dare you, at least if someone wishes to know what you look like because they
    might like to find you and have a *talk* to you…

    Reading your profile on foolquest, pretty much sums you up -

    http://www.foolquest.com/pix.htm

    and the bottom line of your profile -

    Seeking, always, happiness with: “a partner in crime.”

    indicates what you are, a career criminal in gang stalking, a perpertrator. So who’s payroll do you hope to be on ?

    Comment by Robert — September 4, 2011 @ 8:21 am

  861. Once again, damned in his own words, better than i ever could!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 4, 2011 @ 9:19 am

  862. “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a fraudulent antisemitic text purporting to describe a Jewish plan for achieving global domination.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 4, 2011 @ 9:31 am

  863. Aaron when will you accept that the entertainment industry is run by Jews ? Do you wish to argue that
    point ? Look at what happened to Gibson & Sheen. Do you think that the controlling entities stop their
    program of persecution of anyone that exposes ‘criminal trade practices’ or abuses their *business* ?

    I had no ill will towards Jews, until I realized I had been set-up and exploited by Jews in the entertainment
    industry and then abused by Jewish psychiatrists, upon complaint of the *program* put in place to prevent
    me exposing the rock and roll farce. Then stalked and harassed by them with the intent of criminalizing
    me, that is, when the psychiatric method failed to suppress memories of the exploitation, as they didn’t
    want my story out there, but they had a vested interest in maintaining the exploitation of me. If the
    source of the heat dies, so does all shit clinging to it (parasites)

    2 years of being exploited between 1980 & 1982, scum that I could have sued and ruined. Not to mention
    the amount of damage that would have been done to the industry, so reliant upon such exploitation via
    mental molestation and targetting.

    They know all to well how effective neuroleptic drugs are at washing away a persons memories of events,
    the drugs combined with repetitive suggestion, or if you like, drug induced hypnotic state and patterning
    with repetition. “you are feeling sleepy” – major tranquilizer instead, that is psychiatry.

    Now days it is obvious that when you are dealing with a pack of cowards Ruin then Sue is the order.
    Publicly expose their crimes, so they have no defense. Win Destructively, like war – no one really wins
    but the game ends. How hard a victim will fight, just to lose the shit that are hanging on tight and recover
    the freedom of thoughts they had once known, their birth rites. Freedom of choice – the creators will.

    It is not a coincidence that those that set me up, exploited and then via psychiatry, abused me, then
    attempts at criminalizing my life. They are all Jews, this is my story, my evidence and no ones to
    refute. It is evidence, of an evil crime pertaining to a group of evil criminals hiding behind a religion.
    2 hits is a coincidence, 3 or more is a pattern.

    You have no rights attempting to discredit any victims of gang stalking, so why persist ? You are here for
    no other purpose other than to attempt to undermine what others have to say, you misguide then attack
    them.

    Get a life, maybe an occupation away from other peoples problems, which you are intent on sadistically
    intensifying, with scant regard for others and the damage and suffering you cause. You target victims.
    A friendly warning – watch your back. You want people to look at and talk about you but watch out for
    those that might come after you, these types of forums are not about advertising space for ‘Aaron’

    Your intentions seem to be confusing what others are saying about their own experiences and you don’t
    have a personal story, of your own to tell. You are NOT a victim of Gang Stalking or D.E.W’s, because
    you know very little about the subject and lump all aspects under the generalization – Bullying, which is
    compound *white-washing* – the practice of those who function in defense of crime.

    Aaron you have nothing further to offer and use the site to promote attention to what appears to be your
    own website, or a site you have a vested interest in, which seems to be about pyramid/ponzi schemes.

    Your preoccupation with this forum topic is parasitic & perverse. WHAT DO YOU WANT ? because you
    have nothing to offer, of your own story or advice to other victims. Forget Advertising space for Aaron.

    If you have a look at V2K Smoking Gun @ WordPress your only post has been removed.

    Comment by Robert — September 4, 2011 @ 12:16 pm

  864. Aaron Quote -

    “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a fraudulent antisemitic text purporting to describe a Jewish plan for achieving global domination.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

    Aaron – You selectively read what you want to believe and discredit anything else. Did Israel sign the
    nuclear arms treaty ? NO Does Israel have a nuclear weapons program ? YES. It is at Dimona.
    Where did they get the materials from ? They have money, they have contacts everywhere.
    So do you consider that a Jew with a bomb is a threat, I do.

    Don’t you think that those with *the bomb* are thugs and bullies ? What other types of thuggery and
    psychological manipulation, besides terrorisation of their neighbors, from stolen territory are they into ?
    False Flag terrorism is psychological manipulation combined with violence – “BANG” it wasn’t us, it was
    them. The media, inclusive of the entertainment industry and it’s products are a powerful means of
    corrupting freedom of thought, blinding the population on what actually is, or has occurred.

    What could happen (and does) to people that think outside the square ? What if victims could produce
    enough evidence on the major motivations of gang stalking, in such a way, that can’t be played down OR
    suppressed. James Murdoch is in the news again with regards his prior knowledge of the phone hacking
    scandal, organised crime, privacy violations. Gang Stalking made easy, they know where you are, where
    you are going – your phone is hacked, here comes the gang stalking paparazzi again.

    Do you think it is only wealthy media moguls that can finance hack & track ? Electronic Surveillance, at
    a simple level – the private sector, not government or military. Gang Stalking – the private sector, not
    government or military.

    Comment by Robert — September 4, 2011 @ 1:29 pm

  865. I am keenly interested in all subject matter of conversation that you are plainly so determined to drown out. If you don’t want us to talk about it, then we all probably should pay closer attention exactly thereto. All of your allegations are barking mad! You are nothing but a blustering blowhard and a tool of the lunatic fringe!

    You are sidestepping the long well established fraudulence of the ‘Protocols of the Elders of Zion’, a document in which you place such high stock. So I hardly deny the prominence of the Jews in the Entertainment Industry for decades using Sitcoms to advance tolerance, and in alignment with the Democrats, raising money and fighting tirelessly against the oppression of the Bush administration supported by the Plutocratic rightwing consolidation of control of the mainstream news media. George Soros is my hero! So there.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 4, 2011 @ 6:18 pm

  866. Ignorance is not an excuse to abuse, you really need an education on the entertainment industries occultist
    activities. I have made no allegations, I have presented evidence, facts, names & dates and to an uneducated
    ‘punter’ this would come across as out there and quite mad. But an abusive ‘punter’ is a perpetrator and has
    an agenda of protecting such crimes from public mainstream attention and like a desperate, will only attack.

    Any victims of this crime no all to well, the crime simulates mental illness, according to the interpretations that
    have been selectively derived from the pages of the D.S.M. by the consulting doctor or mental health care
    worker.

    Schizophrenia can’t be recorded on audio media, Gaslighting that simulates schizophrenia can. To dismiss
    evidence so presented, by a victim without discussion, to attack the victim is the activities of a cheap perp or an
    idiot. To reject what someone is saying about their victimization is a desperate perpetrator, clearly with
    something to lose.

    Those that were in on the Gaslighting will tell you that they can’t perceive any difference between your tape
    and the C.D while others might say ‘E.V.P’ or there is something else on the tapes besides the artists originally intended lyrics. The ‘splatter’ won’t mean a real lot to those other than the T.I. because that is who it is directed
    at. The splatter are words that are part of patterning or triggers for sought responses based on the working
    theory of mind control.

    Your American politics and alignment of the Jews with the Democrats is a local, national theme and has ZERO
    or very little to do with the topic of Gang Stalking and directed energy weapons, harassment and intimidation
    but I am sure Aaron has more to offer on the latter of harassment and intimidation. Besides, from what I have
    seen of the 2 party pack of American politics the Jews have their fingers in both party pies.

    Comment by Robert — September 5, 2011 @ 2:15 am

  867. Mythical directed energy weapons have nothing to do with the reality of harassment and intimidation. And just out of curiosity, under what circumstance might you consider taking a diagnosis of schizophrenia more seriously?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 5, 2011 @ 3:14 am

  868. Directed Energy Weapons – Myth Busting -

    A practical demonstration of the reality of harassment and
    intimidation using a directed acoustic energy weapon -

    Go fetch Aaron ! or live in denial of readily accessible technology. It works on the principle of a phased array
    and the principle was around before this inventor acquired this patent, for something already understood in
    the art. People could be persecuted night and day, with such a device and surely your not that stupid to
    deny it’s weapons capability along such lines. It was not a secret government financed industrial military
    complex project, once again – THE PRIVATE SECTOR -

    Comment by Robert — September 5, 2011 @ 6:12 am

  869. If you are talking about ultrasound for harassment, then the woofers are off the shelf at Radio Shack. And so, indeed, you take my point that a neighbor bully could do it, quite without help from mythic global shadowy cabals! But then, such would be detectable and more readily prosecutable. However, if you believe that the voices in your head are from directional sound, then have you tried actually getting in contact with Dr. Joe Pompei for advice? You should also probably rule out radio reception from your dental work. But if none of that pans out, then will you then finally consider shopping around for a good shrink?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 5, 2011 @ 8:38 am

  870. Once again you show your ignorance of the technology, inclusive of terminology. Ultrasound is Ultrasonic
    meaning beyond the range of human hearing, in which the human hearing fails to perceive sound beyond
    20,000 Hertz (20KHz) Woofers are low frequency transducers of acoustic radiation and by design are not
    capable of high frequency (Ultrasonic) reproduction, this is the area for tweeters, compression drivers,
    ribbon based transducers.

    Another constraint on the transducer, of the type used in HiFi equipment is directivity, that is HiFi
    transducers are omni-directional, that is the sound disperses in all directions and is not focused or hyper directional. Phase arrays are what is required to focus the sound so it is directional and not dispersed off
    axis.

    Dr. Joe Pompei is not the only one behind directional sound and Ultrasonic phase array systems, another
    American inventor (Woody Norris) of much the same thing -

    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techinnovations/2003-05-19-hss_x.htm

    So directional sound could very well have it’s inspiration derived from the phase array telescope dishes
    that occupy real estate in certain deserts…Maybe they have patents for a different means of achieving
    the same results. Maybe the ideas were obtained from an expired patent. A lot of people would regard
    the fibre optic link as recent technology but the photo phone was built and tested by Bell Laboratories
    a hundred years ago.

    You really shouldn’t comment on things you poorly, or don’t wish to understand Aaron. It reinforces
    popular opinion – perp. There are people that have been victimized and had their lived ruined by a
    combination of governing factors called patterning and this isn’t to generate human guinea pigs for
    pig pharma research or Manchurian candidates.

    Comment by Robert — September 5, 2011 @ 10:14 am

  871. Voices in the head, they do not emanate from within the skull, they appear to lack direction and are quite often
    piggy backed onto another noise source, say an exhaust fan that has a constant spectral density of acoustic
    radiation.

    Many victims have complained about the ‘voices’ coming from the television, even when the sound
    is turned off, these were the old CRT based T.V. sets and my research revealed that these sets constantly
    emitted a very high pitch at around 15KHz which is ideal for piggy backing voice modulated, near ultrasonic
    harassment upon.

    Numerous systems have made use of this phenomenon inclusive of self help products (tapes) and anti theft (deterrent) systems in stores. The hearing mechanism detects a high pitch frequency or maybe it isn’t heard,
    the brain (temporal lobe) decodes the voice modulation and viola – artificial schizophrenia.

    Comment by Robert — September 5, 2011 @ 1:25 pm

  872. You nitpick me on the tech, and sidestep me on Scientific Method. What I want to know is: will you be consulting anyone like Dr. Joe Pompei or Dionyssis Angelopoulos who actually work with directed sound? Put up or shut up: That which you allege would be detectable. Is your hypothesis scientific, testable with specific conditions of refutation? And if it doesn’t pan out, what conclusion would you then draw, and what might you do differently?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 5, 2011 @ 5:37 pm

  873. Aaron Quote – ” What I want to know is ” -

    You go and do your own research, I am not here to your bidding. Firstly you described the technology
    and it’s applications as mythical, regards psychological weapons use of such technology, then you were
    shown two systems. You clearly wan’t someone else to do your homework for you and if they don’t, you
    abuse them – “Put up or shut up” Aaron – Get Busy, GET LOST!

    You seem to have a lot of time on your hands, so once again – You go and do your own research.

    Dr. Pompei contends that the technology will take time for consumers to get used to.

    Schizophrenia is the new ad gimmick, How soon will it be until in addition to the
    do-not-call list, we’ll have a ‘do not beam commercial messages into my head’ list ?

    “There’s going to be a certain population sensitive to it. But once people see what it
    does and hear for themselves, they’ll see it’s effective for getting attention,”
    Dr. Pompei said.

    The entertainment industry indeed relies on various methods of obtaining attention, through psychological
    disturbance, of the unsuspecting for example. Once these parasites have your attention they don’t let go,
    holding on tight for an exploitive ride, without consent. Gang Stalking is just another means of maintaining
    the disturbance and therefore the attention they require, for their ongoing exploitational success. Parasites.

    Comment by Robert — September 5, 2011 @ 11:32 pm

  874. Pompei Quote -

    “If you really want to annoy a lot of people, a loudspeaker is the best way to do it”

    “If you set up a loudspeaker on the top of a building, everybody’s going to hear that noise.
    But if you’re only directing that sound to a specific viewer, you’re never going to hear a
    neighbor complaint from street vendors or pedestrians. The whole idea is to spare other people.”
    End Quote.

    Not to mention the nefarious applications of a directed assault, upon an individual without any witnesses.
    “Did you hear that” – Hear what ? So the technology is not widely accepted as being a reality,

    Until Yesterday Aaron believed –
    “Mythical directed energy weapons”

    the man is a fool (with a quest)

    Comment by Robert — September 5, 2011 @ 11:57 pm

  875. That’s not what I asked at all.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 6, 2011 @ 2:22 am

  876. One day singer song-writers, script-writers and musicians will start, once again with truly original pieces
    and claim originality for their work. They won’t have to dump all over someone else for attention.

    Journalists won’t have to rely on illegal phone taps, bugging devices and the interception of *private* correspondence for a story. One day, married couples won’t see more value in another couples
    relationship and patterning (programming) via the media will bite the dust.

    Until then, the problems of perversion and behavioral modification, bending normality via freedom of
    thought and privacy (which no longer exists) into ‘clockwork’ will sadly remain. One part of gang stalking
    that needs to be understood further, is subliminal coercion and that is, many gang stalking operatives (individuals) don’t even know that they are stalking – subliminal messaging like “it doesn’t matter, keep an
    eye on him”

    I have already indicated the technology that is capable of this type of suggestion, nothing ‘mystical’
    about it. The difficult part of the equation is convincing the stalker that they are submitting to such a
    program of *hidden* suggestion. They tend to believe it was their own thoughts, for a higher cause.

    So how can they be educated about those behind such manipulation, when they think it’s entertainment
    and they can just “pull the plug” How can we teach people to “mind their own business” ? The battle
    for *your* mind, advertising that aims to sell a refrigerator, to an Eskimo. Do we need this ? but your
    thoughts are no longer your own – “It will stop the food from freezing”

    Comment by Robert — September 7, 2011 @ 3:12 pm

  877. Still not what I asked you at all.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 7, 2011 @ 3:22 pm

  878. Some useful info for victims (not perps) and a means of presenting T.I. related problems, can be found here -

    http://peacepink.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2351430%3ABlogPost%3A183614&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_post

    The opening contributing author suggests a global organization for T.I’s that “shoots arrows” instead of
    individuals that, with such isolation presented to them, would be only capable of “shooting darts” sounds
    like a good idea, so victim complaints are “louder” than the whisper of the victim, in isolation, suffering
    alone.

    This opening author is Paul Baird, Aaron has already labeled Paul’s website (Surveillance Issues) -
    as “more crank bullshit” but with the other contributing factors of Aarons continued Negativity,
    abuse of Victim reports and his attempts at dismissing D.E.W’s “as mythical” Aaron has painted a
    broader picture, of himself, that no amount of solvent abuse could remove – PERPETRATOR.
    So, Victims – please ignore him and he may GO AWAY ! Fingers crossed.

    Comment by Robert — September 7, 2011 @ 11:14 pm

  879. Solvents that may assist a perpetrator in removal of the baked on self portrait (personal image, projected
    to others) 2 pack baked Urethanes – Pyrrollidone (N-Methyl-2-Pyrrollidone, also known as N.M.P) and
    if a fully heat cured 2 pack Polyester – Di-Chloro-Methane with multiple applications with intermediate
    scrapping of the softened layers… Then again, why help a perp’ that has also painted itself into a corner ?

    Comment by Robert — September 8, 2011 @ 2:14 am

  880. Why should anyone believe any of your loony incoherent so called reports when you are so plainly evasive and abusive, ever thrashing straw men and quoting out of context?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 8, 2011 @ 2:29 am

  881. In perusal of various YouTube documentary evidence of D.E.W’s, is also MICROWAVE based systems.

    What has been adequately covered above is directed acoustic technology. Far more sinister is the app’s
    for physical AND psychological damage that can be done, to a targeted individual or even a group of people
    and mentioned in the interview between an ex-military microwave expert and a doctor (both British) is the
    platform of this weapons beginnings in Russia.

    The microwave expert mentions the Moscow affair, this took place for over 2 decades, whereby the embassy
    staff (American) in Moscow were continually zapped (irradiated) he doesn’t mention what the Americans did,
    for short term relief, when they found out about it. Mysterious fire in the building housing the weapon…

    Comment by Robert — September 8, 2011 @ 3:40 am

  882. The sad part about radiating people with microwave is that, besides being sadistically cruel, it leaves
    no evidence. Stealth I.O.W. The other sad part is it makes use of the good will by a much maligned
    inventor – William Rife.

    Rife came up with the list of frequencies that had therapeutic benefits for treating various disorder &
    illness, much to the bitterness of the horse & cart (little) pharma sales, before it was BIG PHARMA
    with their – make them sick and sell them a cure businesses.

    Rife’s frequencies could and are used for setting the pulse duration and repetition rates for pulsed
    microwave weapons technology, as in – what makes you better, can also make you ill and kill you.
    In the above video Barrie mentions a pulse rate of 6.5 cycles/sec that aggressively stimulates male
    sexual behavior, without Big Pharma’s Viagra.

    Some T.I’s attest to being sexually stimulated, that is of course rape & assault, because there was NO
    permission granted, they were not asked and so there was no consent and no evidence of such testing
    taking place. So who could be put on trial for such hideous and evil, human rites violations ? Who is
    conducting the non consented testing ? Look at those with money, aiming at keeping it. A minority to
    report. But a powerful and biased lobby group, all the same – the shit with’s.

    Comment by Robert — September 8, 2011 @ 4:49 am

  883. More non sequitur.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 8, 2011 @ 5:03 am

  884. The Shit’s With -

    The American – “are you kidding, we’re a basket case, economically speaking”

    The Englishman – “Excuse me, we were before them”

    The German – A Michael Quote – “Germoney”

    Anyone Else ?

    Comment by Robert — September 8, 2011 @ 5:39 am

  885. BTW, where did Trower teach?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 8, 2011 @ 6:26 am

  886. http://www.tetrawatch.net/tetra/trower.php

    Comment by Robert — September 10, 2011 @ 3:21 am

  887. test……………………………………………………============================================
    ————————————————————————

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 10, 2011 @ 5:59 am

  888. Testing 1, 2, 3, 4

    Selective hearing version -

    Testing Wan’t to Free Fall.

    Comment by Robert — September 10, 2011 @ 6:45 am

  889. Gang Stalking & Harassment,

    Indeed makes use of ‘selective hearing’ whereby street theatre makes use of this phoneme similarity -

    Lsa Lbe lrcs -

    “and you say – I only hear what I want to”

    Private (presumed) conversation with my attorney cousin – early 1993

    Cousin – You know what your problem is Robert, you suffer from selective hearing

    Me –

    ” are you saying – I only hear what I want to”

    This pilfered, perversion of my privacy was quickly on sold to a nobody in the U.S of A and became a
    Million dollar hit record, the public attention to the product was garnered from the illegal phone tap, a
    Heated conversation that was then turned into a saleable product, stolen heat – to prop up an otherwise
    Lame entertainment “hit”. It would not have received the attention that it did without the privacy violation,
    the use of pre – release repetition directed back at the T.I. to maintain the thoughts and feelings, that
    were associated with the *private* conversation.

    Comment by Robert — September 10, 2011 @ 7:36 am

  890. The scum, that cash in on the royalty cheques would only suggest, “I thought he was a dump site, on
    the same wave-length” “I didn’t know he was a star”

    Comment by Robert — September 10, 2011 @ 7:56 am

  891. AND SO ?

    Witch Murderous Murdoch, acquired a position in Festival Mushroom Records ?

    Time to go home ‘James’

    Evidence of your illegal phone taps, screwing the non-public, yet pilfered talents, tooooo much evidence
    you taxing fellow RATBAG. WOW 1993 ? and you just couldn’t account for the expenditure ? O.K what
    about the revenue you were raking ?

    Comment by Robert — September 10, 2011 @ 8:14 am

  892. Go seek some more professional *corporate* help…

    Comment by Robert — September 10, 2011 @ 8:33 am

  893. bribes

    Comment by Robert — September 10, 2011 @ 8:44 am

  894. What I am saying is that Barrie Trower ET AL are barely more credible than ‘Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ and that what is certainly selective on your part, is the evidence you consider. You gather corroboration, no matter how dubious, without also seeking refutation in order to detect error.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 10, 2011 @ 9:47 am

  895. Aaron, it’s simple – you are simply an idiot.

    Comment by Robert — September 11, 2011 @ 1:44 am

  896. No, there it is again. Selective something, I guess!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 11, 2011 @ 3:15 am

  897. Must happen to you too, Robert. It might explain your selective answers! Or maybe you are just an evasive liar, so easily reduced to name calling.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 11, 2011 @ 3:17 am

  898. From the evidence, so presented and the technology that can be used to expose this psychological terror,
    those party to it no longer have a place to hide. The motivations of this criminal activity become clear and
    those making money out, or intent on defense of the crime, have exposed themselves. To willfully reject
    such claims, by victims is corruption. When the sanctioning of such crimes is maintained and the guilty
    continue to evade morality and justice, then this sets the precedence for a war against such terrorists and
    those with money continue to prosper, as they generally invest in the consumables of such a war.

    False Flag waving also comes into the equation and those not responsible are abused by those that are
    the guilty, with associative gains in mind.

    Comment by Robert — September 11, 2011 @ 3:34 am

  899. Your standard response: More of the same pointless inane screed.Anyone who calls you out must be an agent of conspiracy!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 11, 2011 @ 4:24 am

  900. Aaron’s Corner -
    He painted himself into it, the sad part -
    he enjoys being cornered.

    Comment by Robert — September 11, 2011 @ 7:09 am

  901. Perpetrator Checklist -

    Call the T.I. a conspiracy theorist.
    Attempt to Discredit supported Evidence.
    Apply Negativity to Victim Comments/Complaints.
    Bow Out gracefully when a Victim presents Misinformation.
    Recover as much personal information, about the Victim, or try.
    Use personal victim information and attempt to embarrass the Victim.
    Play down important evidence with comments asking about the relevance.
    Side track any issues of evidential value and point the finger at those not involved.
    Be supportive of the victim and maintain the victims delusional content, with hyped up input.
    Attack discrepancies in the victims personal story, apply “but you said” where it is appropriate to.
    Apply misunderstanding to the core of the victims complaint and maintain false interpretations when possible.
    Abuse the victim with words and phrases, not commonly used in day to day conversation and repeat these.
    Maintain a line of questioning, of the victim to topics that lead the victim away from the facts of their targeting.
    Be supportive of psychiatry and pharmaceutical industries abuse of victims that are aware of their targeting.
    Promote attention to non topic information and misguide victims to contribute to off topic themes.
    Apply the reinforcement of unqualified diagnosis in support of the deliberate misdiagnosis.
    Increase the level of questioning to maintain misadventure and blame the victim.
    Support the extremes of negativity “You must have done something to deserve it”
    Tell the victim (the targeted individual) that they are the perpetrator/stalker.
    Reinforce negativity and ignorance to upset the targeted individual.
    When the victim is at a loss to understand why, apply delusion.
    Maintain the final word, even when it is a drivel comment.

    There is much more that could be added to this checklist, what is here is only applicable to Aaron the Perp.
    I don’t wish to drive the man away from his abuses, of targeted individuals on this forum blog spot. Why ? -

    It is worthwhile having a forum topic such as this, whereby anyone can point the finger at a living and active
    internet trawling perpetrator, that sets out to undermine victims complaints, that are useful in helping other
    targeted individuals in coming to terms with their own victimization, exploitation or psychological disabling by
    those so intent on such crimes and privacy violations.

    I am gratefully appreciative we have an active perpetrator, such as Aaron on this forum who has passed, with honors in completing, successfully the requirements, as per the perpetrator checklist. Sadly we only have
    one such perp, nothing to draw comparisons against…

    Comment by Robert — September 11, 2011 @ 10:54 am

  902. Straw man and Ad Hominem. You know full well that you have not ansewred so much as a single word of anything I actually said. And anyone reading can see that.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 11, 2011 @ 1:29 pm

  903. Little point in educating a perpetrator, the perp(s) are only interested in pushing victims over the edge.
    The best approach when dealing with a trawling perpetrator is to either ignore them and apply the same
    but inverted method to push the perp over the edge OR by continuing to tell the personal story of how
    one was victimized, provide sound evidence of what is very much hidden from common understandings
    and when sufficient information is posted, call in the heavy weights by promoting attention to the writing
    of an industries associated criminal practices and how such crime was sanctioned by authorities that are corrupted.

    There are a large number of *game* players who have many victims locked up in uneventful lives, these
    game players will have little to look forward to, as progressively the truth about their activities become
    less and less tolerable. Once their criminal advantage, through their deception is more widely understood
    then the interest in supporting them is diminished. The News of the World crimes is an example, but the
    activities of illegal phone taps, gas-lighting, paying off employees to shut up, gang stalking and intimidating
    whistle blowers, murder made to look like suicide is only the tip of the iceberg.

    When the corrupted authorities can no longer run or hide, from their part in sanctioning this crime then the
    way the game ends is death by natural causes, no suspicious circumstances. Nothing to look forward to
    for those in on it, except death and self destruction, misery and depression and no new blood with any
    interest in selling themselves out, a one way ticket, down a one way street, at speed into a cliff face.

    I warned those that sold me out in 1992 that I wasn’t prepared to go through the misadventure again and
    would only be destructive of everything that they had acquired, at my expense. They are slow to learn
    and are only holding the reigns of death, their own. They become drained of energy, can’t function and
    accept – what’s the use ? AND die. “The spell they cast upon another, they cast upon themselves”
    Everything they once lived for, like the exploitation of another ceases to exist for them. The Damned.

    When a Parasite no longer has anything to prey upon, like the mind of human being, then the parasite
    indeed looses it’s meal ticket – it’s mind. I saw the desperation of many parasites, in the entertainment
    industry, that this happened to, they are termed ‘wasted talents’ and many end up dead, even when they
    are multi millionaires, they lose their ‘ride’ and can’t jump on anyone else, then they lose their minds and
    lives. They lived onboard the spirit of another, they had pinned down and rolled – parasites. The *FAN*
    club does the bidding for the parasites, the fan club is a psychologically controlled group of Gang Stalkers.
    False god worship comes with a price tag…The wrath of a jealous god.

    Comment by Robert — September 11, 2011 @ 3:03 pm

  904. No, you.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 11, 2011 @ 6:19 pm

  905. I have attempted to be civil with you, but have utterly failed to engage you in critical thinking. I have successfully encouraged you to expose yourself in all of your hostility, dishonesty, evasion and sheer long winded unintelligibility.

    Robert, if there is a perpetrator here, then look for him in your bathroom mirror! How so? Thus:

    1) You are a flamer, an online bully, an chronic abusive liar.
    2) You are a bigot engaged in scapegoating hate speech that serves to cover for the lunatic fringe actually most engaged in gang stalking and worse.
    3) You are a conspiracisist, serving up the “poison pill” of implausible fantasy that by indelible association serves to discredit the entire concept, the very notion of gang stalking at all, rather than actually drawing concerned attention to the very real problems of community mobbing and harassment.
    4) Indeed, you are aligned with the forces for inaction: You virulently oppose all agenda discussion, all collaboration, all action, save for the ever wider dissemination of the same endless drivel as described in the previous numbered points, on all online forums.
    5) You are such a tiresome incoherent blow hard!! Seriously.

    Now go ahead a buttress my point by launching into yet another inane screed or by entirely sidestepping my points with more empty and utterly irrelevant non sequitur hostility, Ad Hominem and straw man arguments. Because that’s all you’ve got.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 11, 2011 @ 9:07 pm

  906. Still nothing about Aaron’s Victimization, because he is not a Victim. More of the perp’s push push push.

    In the above writing he attempted to satisfy many of the points on the checklist of determining a perp, seems
    pointless as from his first writings, before my entries on the topic, he was abusing victims and many that were
    on the topic before him gave the abuse back and ceased contributing. At one point there was no input, from
    anyone, Aaron had made the last comment and the topic remained dormant for over a month. See this for
    yourself, the forum blog space hadn’t been locked and Aaron had succeeded in driving out victims and their
    writing.

    This is indicative of a thug’s presence attempting to derail a sensitive issue as victims can’t deal with it.

    Perpetrators that trawl the net attacking victim complaints have one goal – undermine, derail and shut down
    what becomes dormant, as the forum owners will see little point in paying for the real estate an idle topic
    blog spot occupies. The perpetrators quest has therefore been accomplished and they get paid for such
    a disruptive act, by those, that don’t want such blog spots around, it cramps their style.

    Comment by Robert — September 12, 2011 @ 12:30 am

  907. Your groundless acusations aside, Robert: Again, if you really wanted more information about my own experience, then you’d actually ask questions. This is a matter both personal and sensitiver. As it stands, you have only denegrated my own ordeal, because it doesn’t fit your own loony mythology. So why do you harp on this when you are crearly not interested at all? And why should I subject myself to more of your abuse? You can take all of that bogus support group behavioral structure and shove it up your ass!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 12, 2011 @ 1:07 am

  908. So would you refresh everyones memories, please Aaron on what your victimization and targeting involved.

    Please check your spelling also – ‘sensitiver’ and ‘crealy’ don’t sit to well and tend to indicate something
    scratched in haste.

    Comment by Robert — September 12, 2011 @ 3:24 am

  909. I’ll have to think it over. Bashing typos doesn’t promote the requisite sense of safety for personal disclosure. And “refresh our memories” is not a question.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 12, 2011 @ 3:32 am

  910. What many victims of Gang Stalking and DEW’s should think about are the reasons, who would go to such an
    extent and expense to drive them into such a dilemma ? Stupidity would suggest Government Agents, this would
    indicate the Cold War is not over and the Stazi are still operational in Germany. Perhaps the first line of thought
    would be – Who has something to gain from this ? Looking at the MONEY side of the equation. Stupidity, again
    would suggest that financial support that doesn’t have financial returns is part of the modus operandi for such
    crimes.

    People used to abuse the psychiatric systems to their own end – i.e – ‘gaslighting’ but reasons for admission
    into a psychiatric facility, such as “not under proper care and control” have been abandoned due to the ease
    of abuses of such a section. The two reasons that remain – Threat to themselves and/or a threat to others.
    Even these reasons require substantial evidence before any such psychiatric scheduling would occur.

    Comment by Robert — September 12, 2011 @ 3:48 am

  911. Aaron Quote -
    I’ll have to think it over. Bashing typos doesn’t promote the requisite sense of safety for personal disclosure. And “refresh our memories” is not a question.

    Quote – comment post No. 406 – Aaron A.
    “Michael Katoomba, if you can add punctuation to the above, that might render ir inrellifible”

    Your usual double standards, again, Aaron ?

    Tell us again what your victimization was about, as a T.I. and not your victimization of other T.I’s on this
    blog space. I am asking you to tell your story of victimization, because I can’t find your story anywhere
    on this forum’s blog space. Take your time and please let us all know where you cut and pasted from,
    which comment post No. , I mean what is there to think about if you have posted info about your own
    personal victimization, on this blog space before ?

    If you haven’t a story of persecution, as a T.I. to tell, then there is little point in being inventive now.

    Comment by Robert — September 12, 2011 @ 6:04 am

  912. Fuck you, Robert. Drop the hostility, if you actually want me to tell you. -maybe…

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 12, 2011 @ 8:54 am

  913. Hostile ? only if you apply reverse psychology to being polite.

    Comment by Robert — September 12, 2011 @ 10:10 am

  914. Now you have reached even new levels of denial.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 12, 2011 @ 4:35 pm

  915. Adding the word “please” to the same screed of repetitive accusation, is not enough to put me at my ease.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 12, 2011 @ 5:55 pm

  916. That’s odd, as I have never denied any of my input on this forum blog space, but perhaps should read book
    page space. It is sad when most sites are treated like an SMS messaging service, or the pathetic word limits
    applied to a site like ‘Nit-twitter’

    There is nothing to put at ease, as you have no personal story to tell, you are a sadistic, trawling perp who
    derives it’s kicks from attacking the input of others. When supportive evidential value is presented (mythical
    weapons, for example) you make no apologies for your applied, deliberate attack of victims, by such devices
    and continue trawling with added abuse. What value you are to this forum, is not as a victim, but as a perp
    that has been exposed, so please stay.

    Perpetrators, on such a forum as this, will help harden up the victims to such scumbags and their repetitive
    lines of attack. This in turn will help such T.I’s in dealing with the reverse psychology practices of the psych’s
    professionally in place, that only act in their own interests (making money) and how that money is derived, by guaranteeing an ongoing source of human guinea pigs for pig pharma research, which too many victims are
    well aware of, that is such lying, cheating and scamming ‘professional ‘ system scum.

    Comment by Robert — September 13, 2011 @ 12:00 am

  917. You blew it! Your mind is made up. And you are not going to bully anything out of me. Not that you will ever accept any account that does not fit your own delusional preconceptions.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 13, 2011 @ 2:26 am

  918. You Blew it –
    Blew What ?

    Your mind is made up –
    Are you attempting behavioral modification, of a long term victim ? If so then please let us all know
    what your qualifications are, for this wholesale deprogramming theme of yours.

    And you are not going to bully anything out of me – There is nothing of benefit, to a victim, to be had.

    Not that you will ever accept any account – You have no account, 30 Days, A Victims or otherwise.

    that does not fit your own delusional preconceptions –

    With the evidence you love to ignore, side step and play down there is nothing illusional, delusional or preconceived that I have put forward without support of the facts, you are still playing a game that
    ended many years ago, like a soldier lost in the jungle, that doesn’t know the war is over and was
    on the losing side, sad really – a game that was over, before it began.

    Comment by Robert — September 13, 2011 @ 3:48 am

  919. Going into the jungle, to recover losers – this MUST be done slowly and carefully, so as to prevent any
    relapse (memory deficit affect disorder – MDAD) that could result in *mishaps* and returns, into the
    jungle by little, in their numbers, but long term soldiers that have no other *life*

    Perpetrators that need long term counseling, to realize that they could be ‘splattered’ if they relapse, by the
    less compassionate that despise them.

    Comment by Robert — September 13, 2011 @ 5:42 am

  920. Before making sensitive disclosure as requested, all that I have thus far asked of Robert, is first just to cease flaming.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 13, 2011 @ 8:54 pm

  921. Flaming a perpetrator, that is not interested in conversing with a victim of gang stalking and DEW’s, other
    than attempts at discrediting victim stories AND further discrediting of exposure of the proven available
    perpetrator technology, leaves no choice in the matter other than flaming perpetrators.

    Cheap entertainment for victims (T.I’s)

    Into the jungle we have gone, to recover another loser. Loser’s that blindly reject the substantial evidence,
    that such perp’s don’t want main stream on sites such as this… It cramps their style(s) The style of perp
    retards, that reject the facts, have no story of their own as victims, and persecute victims for sport –
    the perp’ & sadist dick-heads.

    Aaron the war is over dude, you have no weapons that haven’t already been disarmed. You driven doesn’t
    even make up the pre-requisite for a primary charge in density appraisals.

    Comment by Robert — September 15, 2011 @ 8:01 am

  922. Resistance creates a hot spot, but Aaron, in winter time you haven’t enough heat to keep my toes warm.

    Rejection of evidence for the sake of maintaining the perp war effort, well, it just doesn’t cut it dude. Have
    you thought about something a little hotter ? So how are your nano thermite reserves ? Rather small
    right and no real commodities of tonnage.

    Victims like ‘Michael’ & ‘Roberto’ that disappeared after the shells of DEW’s information were launched, in exposing the available directed energy weapons technology, readily available, for not a real lot of money,
    then these authors ‘vanished’ what were they ? Sock Puppets of the Agassi clan ?

    Comment by Robert — September 15, 2011 @ 8:42 am

  923. So the sock puppets ? Michael & Rscruffie…Flea’s or the Dog’s sautéed banquet

    BANK eT’ = bad investment… O, Beast City.

    So who’s fat on the facts ?

    Comment by Robert — September 15, 2011 @ 9:20 am

  924. Anyone can be demonized. Thus if demonization is an excuse for flaming, anyone may be flamed. You are simply not open to civil disagreement and discourse, Robert. You are irrational and abusive. You just won’t give me chance. Nevertheless, you are only making my case by your ill mannered conduct.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 15, 2011 @ 6:05 pm

  925. Comment #417 by aaronagassi — June 11, 2011 @ 7:58 am

    “Robert, regular criminals, any petty thugs, may need to profit from a scam or a shakedown, but do you realize how little incentive is required for a bully? Aside from being so unlikely and explanatorily inelegant and unnecessary, deep conspiracy theories share another characteristic with religion: Which one amongst so many ought one simply to accept and embrace on faith? You offer no verifiable supporting evidence, or even much logic for that matter”

    This broken down, selectively spells out the efforts of perpetrator, refer to the preceding writing, which is
    the word for word reproduction of the writing of Police, Doctors and Nurses, their names dates and times.
    (comment #416) and the following Agassi comment (#417) just runs it down, no sensitivity to what was
    presented and outright perp drivel -

    “unlikely and explanatorily inelegant” = Attack & Ridicule

    “deep conspiracy theories” = Ridicule & Persecute

    ” no verifiable supporting evidence” = Ignore the presented factual transcript, it’s historic value and
    tell the writer they are a liar, Ignore the information without discussion of any part of it and attack the
    writer’s personal story.

    “do you realize how little incentive is required for a bully” = Side step the issue and point the finger at
    something else. It is a personal story about exploitation and virtually nothing to do with bullying.

    “or even much logic for that matter” = Tell the writer they are an idiot.

    Agassi this was when you began painting yourself into a corner and painting a picture of a sadist that sets
    out to get it’s kicks persecuting victims. Salt in the wound is what you do, adding insult to injury and it
    becomes obvious that you have something to gain, by your counter productive activities on this site.

    All you have done is insult the efforts of others and their stories, you have no story to tell of your own
    and only set out to persecute those, with information that could be of use to other victims. Keep on with
    your persecution and I will increase the thermals of the flaming, or back right off and try and show an
    interest in what others are saying instead of attacking them. The fact that you don’t have your own
    victims story to tell raises serious doubts about your presence on this topic – Who are you setting out to
    impress ? Who’s payroll are you on ?

    Comment by Robert — September 16, 2011 @ 3:05 pm

  926. “Robert. You are irrational and abusive.” That’s not entirely correct, Aaron. As i mentioned above, many of your posts mimick an interrogative psychologist (you know, like Weizenbaum’s “Eliza” of 80s “A.I.” fame?). Questioning, scrutinizing, thus evaluating others while at the same time stimulating them to pursue – civilized, though, but nonetheless irritating, as this implies some weird sort of superiority some (including me) react allergic upon. And these mannered ways just don’t fit those tight-lipped dingbats you drop around here, too. Robert has handed over a LOT of useful information, along with understandably emotional tirades upon those he considers responsible. I read his posts with greatest interest – even though some of it must be counterread with his very personal, vastly disturbing experiences in mind. I see forward to his (sometimes grimly funny) contributions from a target’s p.o.v., agreeing to differ if necessary, but with overall solidarity. This isn’t about neighborgood bullying here, it’s about gangstalking and worse, it’s about people who lost their sanity and even lives due to condemnable, perverted assaults that should be proscribed and damned on a global level!
    And that “You just won’t give me chance. “-thing, gee, a chance for starting to post more than scrutinizing, agitating two-liners? Like personal experiences and/or valuable strategies to adhere to, without the standing reference to your (admittedly verbose) website or defensive verbiage because someone dared to scrutinize your highness in return? Still waiting…

    Comment by Michael — September 16, 2011 @ 6:55 pm

  927. Robert: As Hominem characterizing a criticism as ridicule instead of making cogent rebuttal, is what constitutes side stepping. And calling any one among so many disputed interpretations, “factual,” is nothing but a demand for all investigation to cease. Which is consistent with your persistent refusal even to discuss any question pertinent standards of evidence among other problems of applicable Epistemological Methodology, scientifically and journalistically. And your personal accounts, in particular, are simply unintelligible! Your jumbled prose hurts my eyes! And vast regurgitation of unsorted data, deformatted at that, does not by itself speak whatever you have been reading into it. And with you standing upon such long discredited utter fraudulent trash as Elders of Zion and Trower ET AL., how much more deeply should I delve? Why should anyone take you seriously at all? And that’s not even the worst of it: You are actually against taking any action!

    Michael: I am hardly ashamed of posing questions Dialectically. Why should I be? If you are allergic to Dialectic, then you are averse to the very quest for truth. As for my personal experiences of organized gang stalking, for starters I can tell you that they do not seem to offer so much as any hint of directed energy weapons, sinister global cabals or byzantine shadow government, just petty bottom feeding low lives, bullies, cockblockers and Yentas. I have mentioned my circumstances in passing, and their really didn’t seem to be very much interest. Now I confront actual hostility. Do I owe something? Why? And what would be the point? I’m just not looking for a support group anyhow, thanks. Again, perhaps better clarity might ensue from a discussion explicitly upon agenda.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 16, 2011 @ 7:45 pm

  928. PS Michael: Conspiracy coalesces all around us, seldom actually from the top down. As the saying goes: Think globally, act locally. Conspiracism promotes helpless inaction, whereas instead a view of pervasive cruelty, however actually or tacitly conspiratorial, nevertheless as cultural, opens the way for strategic discourse.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 16, 2011 @ 8:08 pm

  929. “Dialectic” counter-questioning, well, it’s truly nothing to be ashamed of, but it shouldn’t be used too often, as it still is a weird thing for someone posting here to be constantly counter-questioned dialectically. Real vivid discussion is needed here, no dialectic discourse or stuff.

    Targets look for an explanation of what’s going on, (the big question is “WHY?”) and within this quest for answers they’re prone to accept the weirdest constructions as soon as they’re just a little more plausible than the actual schemes they’re confronted with. That’s only natural and nothing to be “occam razored” or dialectically pulled to pieces for. I for myself thought for a long time, that the perp’s activities were a spiritual test (nothing could be further from the truth) yet i tried everything to “fulfill the demands”, much to my perp’s delight. There’s something spiritual about it, however, as being a target is surely a blow of fate, and to cope with bad fate requires a spiritual approach – like coping with a rare cureless disease – but not in the above sense.

    “Support group”: It’s not all too easy for targets to “stand up” or “get together” or whatever. They’re generally more or less isolated, not too good in “rising against”-stuff, and they’re chosen for exactly that reason. And organized targets, c’mon, if there were groups of organized targets, they’d be infiltrated by perps to the brim the very next day. It’s easy to play target, just like it’s easy to infiltrate blogs and forums with false witness etc. I paid my dues in 12-step-groups, where targets may ironically get to hold hands with and even hug perps unwittingly.

    There’s a cure for it, called publicity. The more cases become public, like Randy Quaid’s, for example, the sooner this mayhem will retrograde. Or, as someone on Youtube optimistically pulled it: “it is only a matter of time before this phenomenon explodes onto the public scene as Watergate did.” Organized Stalking must be officially recognized and damned, so that the targets can be rehabilitated for what they are: victims of a crime against humanity. And it’s one thing to cultivate “the perfect crime”, but it’s another to participate in an officially despised turpitude.

    This thread is still a part of “Pro Target – PR”, even if it’s on the brink of being shreddered here and there by superfluous ego-games. I don’t care if this post complies to some ubiquitous “agenda” – it’s surely a post according to the name of this thread “Gang Stalking: Organized Confusion or Organized Crime – room for what?”

    Comment by Michael — September 17, 2011 @ 12:12 pm

  930. Some more info that I haven’t sent to the recipient yet. The woman is also going through
    a living HELL because of Murdoch, Gudinski, Madonna & Associates Crimes against
    her, not to mention others, in the community Globally – Same crimes being committed
    with multiple victims.

    Rob

    Hi Aisha Goodison – 24 May 2010.

    I am going to Cc: this for obvious reasons to the Fraud Squad Officers of the NSW police
    service and I am hoping that they will seriously consider investigating these Madonna & Associates crimes in Australia.

    You are welcome to use it in part or in whole for the express purpose of your own legal
    battles with “the bitch”

    Your ongoing problem with Madonna & Associates is nothing new to me as I have been
    a Victim of Madonna related crimes, like yours since 1985 back when I was hospitalized
    for a belief in the B/S I was being psyched out with. She returned with the program that
    I regard as Mind Control in 1992 and she has appointed criminals to maintain such violations since.

    In my case it is how she maintained public attention to herself more than theft of I.P.
    Although much of my Electric Bass Guitar Playing style and work have been lifted and
    used for synth programming purposes in what she calls her & associates own efforts.

    This along with “Street Theatre” that generated “Stories” used in her Songs and Films.
    Of course the street theatre “Puppets” recruited by the Covert Surveillance networking
    financed by the criminals like Murdoch (Finance) Gudinski (Promotions) and Madonna
    (Artist)

    The network team relayed my reactions to her as “Captured” in the form of audio/visual perversion of my privacy. The puppets outside setting up disturbances targeting me and
    my reactions inside my home, in what I thought, like yourself was private.

    When they get a reaction – then the localized chant starts – “Put him up, Put him up” then
    the tinnitus starts, indicative of a psych weapon application (Unwanted Attention) resulting
    in pain promoting further reactions captured by their perversion into my private life.

    A comment made to me by the covert harassment that accompanied the surveillance technologies – Madonna’s Voice – “Can we do that, can we do that” Unknown Voice –
    “No we can’t get the intonations right” (Oct 2004) Recorded Drivel – Splatter.

    This transmission when I had just finished a Bass arrangement piece that I was pretty
    happy with.

    The use of Stolen I.P. combined with Suggestions via Covert Harassment adds up to
    attention for the DOG and the sale of her products through deliberate ‘Wave Making’
    or if you like – induction of psychosis to promote attention to psychological products
    (Madonna’s button pushing crap she calls entertainment)

    I posted as an ‘In Her Face’ a series of comments regarding the death of Caresse Henry. My posts are the last entries on the Subject “Liz Rosenberg releases a statement on the death of Caresse Henry” OR Google “Caresse Henry’s MURDER” and that will take you directly to the topic.

    I have included my own evidence of what Madonna has done to me and how Law Enforcement flatly REFUSED to investigate evidence on such hideous crimes, as you are now experiencing that do make her a threat to society globally.

    Something that may help you – “The System” is run by the Ruling Elite. If some rich, as in powerful Bitch uses the system for an unlawful purpose the whole system is threatened, that isn’t such a bad thing because “That System” is clearly in need of reform.

    Where money is found, so is corruption. One approach is to destroy fiscal incentives and in doing so Bye Bye Crime associated with such a flawed system. But those that challenge the system, find themselves challenged by the threatened criminals doing well out of it.

    Phase II for justice sakes – Quietly take the system A P A R T .
    Broken toys (System Components) and NO ONE gets to play the criminal games.
    Flawed System gets Quickly Reformed as all will be loosing out until it is ‘Fixed’

    I have noticed that you haven’t introduced the use of non lethal weapons such as ‘Tracking Microwave Voice to Skull’ and it’s criminal use in your law suit of ’05. Do you suffer from
    Tinnitus ? This can be the red flag of indicating such Harassment using Mind Control technology, being privacy violations of the worst kind – psychological torture as in terrorist activities of the mind and it is is very hard to detect the source of such emissions.

    I believe that this is how they murdered Caresse, my evidence are the reasons for this belief. She was a threat to them. If we could only get together for a class action, as victims world-wide then they can’t take us all out by destroying us, as this leaves a trail of evidence behind that others will take up in the name of justice in good time. well hopefully.

    Looking at strangers that have moved into an area and possibly set up a “Spook House”
    (Covert Surveillance) on me based on their rumor spreading activities (I don’t know them, they don’t know me ?) but as you know they gain private information and distribute it through ‘their’ community after they have distorted and manipulated for their own purposes of destroying credibility and grossly disturbing their ‘Target’ then as you have also found out assault.

    I my case a deranged creep that I passed in the street yelled out YOU (as if he knew me) as I turned around I was pushed to the ground, straddled across my chest and punched in the face requiring 7 stitches above my left eye (March 2003)

    There was no provoking but the rumors that were circulating (and radiating) from the spook
    house were responsible for this creeps attack. I went straight to the police who refused to take me to the scene of the crime for the purpose identifying the attacker and arresting him.

    There were at least three police vehicles outside the police station and 5 law enforcement officers
    present. I had to catch a Taxi to the hospital for treatment and stitches and the creep got away with the crime to then stalk me many weeks later to a regular visit to the Laundrymat were he turned up with a shirt for ironing as his excuse and business there.

    As you may have guessed my activities relate to investigating the Criminals use of technology for it’s gains and purposes, it’s not just the Entertainment Industry as you would know. Starting at the top of the food chain, with a big dog like Madonna would, I think be best approached by a class action meaning multiple victims, their claims presented in the Law Suit and then their combined evidence presented in court.

    Personally I would like to see Madonna behind bars living in the shade, like what she did to Robert Dewey Hoskins who was clearly manipulated and ‘put up’ well before he set out to approach her in LA. Then the fabrication of ‘Evidence’ that led to the destruction of this
    manipulated mans life – He had a wife and children, before the scam targeted him, in about
    1991, starting with the destruction of his family values, followed by isolation.

    Comment by Robert — September 17, 2011 @ 12:17 pm

  931. 2 Roberts would be coincidence, 3 a pattern. Programs that blow out coincidences, due to – same
    name, same event, same distortion and abuse of the system by the corrupted. Why would it be too
    much to accept ? Money talks – shit – shit gets accepted. Others going begging for donations…

    Comment by Robert — September 17, 2011 @ 1:39 pm

  932. Calling so fundamental a thinking and communication tool as the Dialectic “weird,” demonstrates nothing but the deplorable state of what passes for education, perhaps the real closest thing to any actual mind bending deep global conspiracy! Michael, you seem to be suggesting that Conspiracism (for whatever purpose, including possible spiritual test) is a natural and reasonable first interpretation of what for lack of a better term, can be described as a paranoid experience. Be that as it may, nevertheless naive first impression is only least mental effort, not parsimony of explanation. I am overtly bullied, harassed, defamed and ostracized. I learned about the aspect of covert gang stalking against myself and other targeted individuals, from others brave enough to tell me how they had been approached and the conspiracy they had overheard or witnessed. And I know which bullying cliques are responsible. As for the motives, as old as the brain itself, I expound thereupon at length at http://www.FoolQuest.com/cliquebusters.htm

    Indeed, room for what? Yes, what is our agenda of discussion, much less ever any action agenda. Giving up upon organizing to take a stand because of the mere possibility of infiltration, is perfectionist and paralytic. All organizations can be subject to cross purposes, actual infiltration being the least of it. Nevertheless, some movements cope better than others. In any case, I have yet to see any action agenda, even implicitly, save for flooding online forums (often rudely!) and drawing together in co-validation, as if that never opened the way for cross purpose and infiltration! Indeed, disagreement often degenerates from gainsaying in to accusations of “poison pill” deception. There is no serious plan for publicity, much less credibility. Only a tiny voice in the media finally arises to rescue paranoid conspiracism from itself and despite itself, by at all ferreting out any germ of truth of organized gang stalking as a mode of bullying and aspect of rising fascism, from all the culty clamorous Tabloid Weird madness.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 17, 2011 @ 9:16 pm

  933. Robert Dewey Hoskins and Robert Linhart were accused of stalking Madonna, the fate of Hoskins is not
    information that is available on the internet, Linhart was ordered in October of 2010 to stay at
    least 10 Blocks away from the Dog’s New York City Apartment. Why are the Victims all named Robert ?

    Why are the Victims of this organized crime , gang stalking, harassment and behavioral modifications
    via readily available DEW’s technology and techniques, etc accused of what they are a victim of ?

    What are the manufactured stars (corporate puppets) going to do for third party , to lean on, dump on,
    deceive and exploit, when the ‘coveted’ clandestine system is thrown into the fast rotating blades of the
    fan and no one will forget the smell of that shit. Some will have ‘difficulty’ in removing the stain, from
    themselves due to proximity of involvement. Some will Seymour Stein than others…Zorro signed for
    the second copy of the video sent, also to NYC, same day as Schildler’s copy – Feb 1994.

    Zorro worked in the Mail room at Sire Records, NYC a re run of the story of Zorro was released after
    this time in 1994, Schildlers list was already in production. Schindler was the go between
    attorney for Murdoch, Gudinski and Madonna.

    Comment by Robert — September 18, 2011 @ 5:55 am

  934. Around this time (1993) I was appealing to several attorneys, barristers and politicians to investigate the
    crime games of this corporate gang stalking that I was being victimized by. My mission I thought, would
    be accomplished if there was some criminal law put in place, to obstruct the criminals. In late 1993 the
    Stalking act was passed by the NSW state legislative assembly – it’s effectiveness at curbing the crime ?
    Zero. If the power’s of the police seem selective, in enforcing such a law, then why is the law in place if
    it can’t be utilized by victims ? The perpetrators are getting to use the law on victims and this is a recipe
    for world war three. Hoskins & Linhart were set up and coerced into their ‘acts’ but any approach to
    resolve their *induced* obsessions was greeted by the outright misuse of the law by the perpetrators.

    The Stalkers would move in around me, wherever I relocated to, never the same faces, but the same
    crime games of stalking, harassing, intimidating, sleep prevention (DEW application) street theatre, rumor spreading, the *standards* and a continuation of their favorite – I.P. theft.

    Industry scum who’s career’s rely on gang stalking and associated crimes. Restraining orders that are
    selectively granted, never applied to the king pins on top of the shit heap of this organized crime, Nor are
    these scumbags thoroughly investigated for their part in organized crimes of this type, however that may
    be changing – The News of the World grilling sessions of the Murderous Murdochs – for example.
    When the King Pins lose an operative/operatives to an A.V.O, in come the replacements, to maintain the
    crimes.

    It becomes easier to accept that the only way out of the gang stalking trap, is to even the score and to
    destroy the financial incentives, the businesses of those party to such crimes, How ? turn them against
    each other and pray for the death and destruction of their cash cows. They can all go to hell, with their
    life long worship of the Golden Calf. No more WAVES, no more *GAMES*

    The railroading by these shit that would have been best to have left me alone, they had nothing to offer,
    they only take from lives that are not theirs, spirit they do not possess, I.P. that is not theirs to on sell.
    Spook the Spooks and to hell with them.

    Comment by Robert — September 18, 2011 @ 8:57 am

  935. The other side – SPIRITUALITY -

    Those that are victims of this type of gang stalking and manipulation, subtle suggestion via DEW’s on the
    word games of late – followed by my reaction – comments.

    “Listen Rob, I think you will find that ‘they’ are all dead” – So why are you still hanging around, in my ear ?

    “It is the end of this world Rob” – Your world, not mine.

    One does grow tired of their repetitious drivel, if one reacts to it -

    “I’m on, I’m on” – How would you like to be off’ed ? One flash and your ash !

    If you just ignore them, no thoughts in response to their ‘subtle’ suggestions it is like it goes into a mode
    of repetition of a tape loop although the mark to space ratio is not consistent – Dr. Allen Barker calls it
    ‘Auto Pigs’ – that is a computer driven program that returns with the same repetitive diatribe.

    When you react to it – thought modifications – distractions – in becomes barely coherent, barely audible
    running commentary that results in the burning ear syndrome, followed by the tinnitus attack.

    The Medical Profession are intent on the application of the diagnosis that it is psychological disorder – schizophrenia – the artificial induction of a ‘MIND’ disease, so further scumbags can cash in on it –
    Pig Pharma Sales as one of the Big Beneficiaries. If the problem is all in your mind (mind control)
    then why do they insist on chemically ‘treating’ the brain ? MONEY.

    In goes the cotton bud, adjustment of the ear canals resonant frequency dimensions –
    is relief from the attack.

    Fucking Waves, spooks on a visit ? hell no, they are not dead, just carnates on another O.B.E scouting
    exercise – thieves – another singer, song or script writer, actor or actress looking for a ride, intellectual
    property or a dump site. The entertainment industry is built on psychological PERVERSION, then so is psychiatry – Do you get off on erotic American dancers ?

    One day they will have to accept the attention that is theirs. They are looking for public attention, but
    role modeling and ‘hitting’ and dumping on someone else is a crime, privacy violation and theft, so go
    to hell, with your scam – scum. You have nothing to offer AND never did.

    Schizophrenia? I find it a derogatory term, I object to it, as these verbal assaults are electronically
    recordable and acoustically reproducible – so shove your horse and cart pig pharma sales down the
    toilet.

    Do you understand how much I would like to hurt those behind that schizophrenia ‘invented’ theory ?
    Misdiagnosis – a lot of these people, so diagnosed are victims of ritual abuse and DEW’s, so get an
    education OR be sued, and that will hurt.

    Well, Medication gets replaced with perpetrator destruction via worthwhile exorcistic “Cast them into
    Darkness” practices ! OR Stop walking around in my circles or I’ll nail your other foot down. –
    How to treat perpetrators with dignity, as you bury them ! Spook eradication Practices –
    create a hostile environment.

    More about defense systems later, it is possible to make a pervert perpetrators life a complete misery,
    dont let them out, as they trespassed upon you – cast them out, of the *script*, then record the raving
    diatribe, as they tend to get louder, video record their approach and methods of geting ‘out’ of the
    darkness, in which they were cast. It is your mind, not their stage… Yes, you will see them coming, you
    will feel their presence as well. Having some entertainer climbing all over you is not a priviledge, it is
    a crime.

    Comment by Robert — September 18, 2011 @ 1:02 pm

  936. Robert
    September 21st, 2011 at 5:28 AM -

    Caresse Henry was a threat to this organized crime, not only a threat to Madonna, but Warner, Schindler, Murdoch, Gudinski and the practices of a souring entertainment
    industry.

    If entertainment seems more like mind control, behavioral modifications, etc, that others do well out of – unfair financial appropriations then burn it ! The more that isolate themselves from this *control* group – the better.
    ..

    Comment by Robert — September 21, 2011 @ 9:50 am

  937. If a victim feels like they are being stalked, harassed, intimidated and all the precursors for organized gang
    stalking AND the incidents are, at some later stage sifted in, with remarkable accuracy into an entertainment
    industry product, be it a song, script or other and if you are disturbed by the product and feel cheated out
    of your mind by it, then you probably were stalked by someone, with something to gain, that was associated
    with the products development and promotions and at your expense, so don’t wait by the mail box for a
    royalty handout. – “We are going to make it worth your while, so hang in there man” – is a deception program.
    If you submit to their subtle suggestion, it hurts more, when you realize just how ruthless these mongrels
    really are. Don’t trust any of them, none of them are your friends OR your defense, they are sleazy.

    Paid to stalk you, not always fiscal, as sometimes they get rewarded with illicit substances (crime fed by
    further crime) Forget about locations of the beneficiaries of you exploitation, via gang stalking, as these operations are intercontinental for the perpetrators that benefit. The handlers, controllers and wind up idiots
    will be localized. The idiots generally are fed misinformation to establish their participation in stalking and interfering with you, the victim.

    The worst thing you can do, as a victim – is react obsessively, as this will only promote further public
    attention, to the product and increase sales. Then obviously this will, in turn, increase the amount of
    gang stalking and intimidation, that you are probably keen to lose, even the masochistic types will
    sooner or later *want out*. While the golden goose is laying gold eggs, then those robbing the nest
    will tend to maintain their theft vantage spots.

    A victim may seek an exit path, but the gang stalkers tend to hold on obsessively tight to what is *value*
    to them. The hard part, of the equation is finding out who’s pay roll they are on, that is – Who are their
    Controller’s & Handlers – Who put these idiots *up* and all over the Targeted Individual. If some idiot
    shoots it’s mouth off, then you are one step closer to terminating the *game* if the perpetrator is a
    high profile entertainer then sit back and watch them hit the skids, perhaps their death as a star.

    Comment by Robert — September 22, 2011 @ 10:57 am

  938. “Having some entertainer climbing all over you is not a priviledge, it is a crime”

    Desperate Housewives…

    Dead Spirit Arse Wipes

    Beware of “word mincing” things that ring in harmonic resonance, selective hearing’s are a trap.

    Comment by Robert — September 22, 2011 @ 12:01 pm

  939. “sent to meanings, hyp no tied”

    Busting up perceptions ?

    Yep.

    Comment by Robert — September 22, 2011 @ 1:56 pm

  940. The Gang Stalking: Collective action or Hate Crime built in system?

    TARGETED INDIVIDUALS – By this activity innocent people have become unwitting targets of organized crime or government initiatives. They may also simply serve as guinea pigs. They are controlled by monitoring 7 / 7 days – 24 / 24 hours, for years and sometimes for life. Most do not know why it happens to them. And often, when realizing, it’s already too late. It seeks to silence them by discrediting them. In addition, they provided the following treatment: defamation, rejection, scorn, isolation, intimidation, denial of service, harassment, sexual, electronics, and torture. The aim is destruction, all aspects of their lives are affected. They are all at the same time, all the time. These victims are isolated, without support. Why? First, because this phenomenon is unknown to the public, difficult to detect and recognize. In addition, the game consists of these criminals to discredit them, they pose as outcasts. They say for example that he or they are prostitutes, pedophiles, sexual predators, dangerous criminals, mentally ill, vagrants, thieves, etc.. They are desperate to do so. Thus discredited, they were finally isolated and silenced. It’s the perfect crime. But … IT has got to stop!

    http://francequenneville.blogspot.com/2010/12/gang-stalking-collective-action-or-hate.html

    Comment by francequenneville — September 24, 2011 @ 5:46 am

  941. The Gang Stalking: Collective action or Hate Crime built in system?

    TARGETED INDIVIDUALS – By this activity innocent people have become unwitting targets of organized crime or government initiatives. They may also simply serve as guinea pigs. They are controlled by monitoring 7 / 7 days – 24 / 24 hours, for years and sometimes for life. Most do not know why it happens to them. And often, when realizing, it’s already too late. It seeks to silence them by discrediting them. In addition, they provided the following treatment: defamation, rejection, scorn, isolation, intimidation, denial of service, harassment, sexual, electronics, and torture. The aim is destruction, all aspects of their lives are affected. They are all at the same time, all the time. These victims are isolated, without support. Why? First, because this phenomenon is unknown to the public, difficult to detect and recognize. In addition, the game consists of these criminals to discredit them, they pose as outcasts. They say for example that he or they are prostitutes, pedophiles, sexual predators, dangerous criminals, mentally ill, vagrants, thieves, etc.. They are desperate to do so. Thus discredited, they were finally isolated and silenced. It’s the perfect crime. But … IT has got to stop!

    http://francequenneville.blogspot.com/2010/12/gang-stalking-collective-action-or-hate.html

    Comment by France Quenneville (@QuennevilleF) — September 24, 2011 @ 5:48 am

  942. When gang stalking is proven to have a system of financial reward, then why would anyone go looking
    for the motivations of involvement ? Money at the *entertainment* beginning of the *business* and money
    for the scavengers cashing in on what was objected to, by the victims in the hands of psychiatry. Those
    entertaining and those selling the meds come from the same genealogy. It was once suggested that
    they were sub human beings, although “they” thought that they were important, powerful and unstoppable.

    When the systems of such organized crime are fully disclosed AND accepted, without further questioning,
    of the motives (money) and however immoral, illegal and down right anti everything else, worth living for -
    then it is time for reform.

    By educating the doubter’s, the selfish, the criminals and of course the victims, without reservations then
    the playing field gets leveled out, for a new project, without order, no ties to the old world values (money)
    and no further argument, because we have an over supply of numan resources, that would like to do the
    right thing and without further expenditure of oldman stock-piling’s.

    Comment by Robert — September 24, 2011 @ 6:17 am

  943. Robert, there is little doubt that thugs can be hired for all manner of harassment and intimidation, let alone surveillance, as for a well familiar example, in order to clear resisting tenants in order to clear the way for demolition subsequent to crooked real estate development projects. But of course your claims are more bizarre, extreme, and indeed entirely bereft of compelling evidentiary support.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 24, 2011 @ 8:41 am

  944. Aaron, every reason for gang stalking doesn’t rely on thugs, you keep returning with the thug and bully theory
    like it is some mandatory standard, it isn’t. You are not welcome to persecute me or nit pick for the personal
    story and evidence that I have presented, you skip over evidence of DEW’s like they don’t exist and therefore
    couldn’t be used for such purposes as sleep deprivation. You clearly don’t wish to understand the ramifications
    of such torture caused by DEW sleep deprivation, like heightened sensory sensitivity for example.

    “indeed entirely bereft of compelling evidentiary support” continue to avoid discussing the evidence that I have
    presented, with your turn a blind eye attitude and you appear, to others as quite stupid. The internet is full of
    misinformation and the comments of idiots, so why contribute to it ? Say something productive and worthwhile
    or don’t bother saying anything at all, please. Why keep coming back with your “I don’t accept any of this”

    Are we really in need of the numerous reasons for having someone ‘gang stalked’ or would we be better off
    discussing the patterns of interference, who has something to gain from it, how they continue to evade the
    existing laws and why there is a complete ignorance, by the general public of the plight of such victims.

    If we accept who is behind the gang stalking, how they benefit economically from it, then we are getting even
    closer to resolving such global issues, yet to be splattered, by the authorities and G.P. as an ongoing crime.

    To protect and therefore maintain gang stalking through public misinformation is a crime favoring crime.

    Comment by Robert — September 25, 2011 @ 5:50 am

  945. Robert, I skip over what I find either irrelevant or just incoherent. I have attempted to engage with you over what I see as central question as to relevance, necessary to any hope of coherence let alone credibility, but you either ignore or lash out in abuse and accusation. One thing is clear: Criminals and bullies certainly exist. What’s more, either are known to engage in organized stalking or to incite community mobbing. So I simply don’t know why vast super secret cabals and shadow government must be evoked, any more than angels and flying saucers. And this you refuse to address.

    Again, the personal accounts that you present, just make my eyes hurt! They need major copy editing. They are just unreadable. Aside from which, again, what you read into them, does not emerge on its own for me. I see no clear premise, followed by whatever logic, and following to your conclusions. You’ve got to edit!

    Central to getting the goods and exposing any evil doers whatsoever, there also remain questions of evidence, of testable hypotheses with clear conditions of refutation for what are scientific claims, and standards of evidence for claims that should be subject to detective work of serious journalistic investigation.

    All in all, your unreasonable hostility and dismissal of any honest opinion on my part through persecution mania, only makes you come across as crazy. Your espousal of crank conspiracy theories aligned with bigoted factions most likely amenable to gang stalking and worse, doesn’t help either, any more than your own threats to gang stalk me for daring to question you.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 25, 2011 @ 6:23 am

  946. All that is required is a very strong case, of corporate initiated gang stalking, supported evidence of
    deliberate misdiagnosis by psychiatry, theft and sale of intellectual property, stalkers that have acquired
    real estate close by the targeted individual, recording of noise campaigns, witnesses of distributed
    rumor spreading, industry associations with the T.I. and gang stalkers, acts of unprovoked violence
    towards the T.I. by complete strangers, along with a deliberate lack of police investigations, arrest and
    prosecution of the assailant(s), malicious damage to property, recorded evidence of DEW’s applications
    such as corrupted song lyrics, sleep deprivation, induced tinnitus attacks and associated pain and
    suffering, that is brought about by heightened sensory sensitivities caused by sleep deprivation.
    Misuse of the law by the perpetrators, such as using a court of law to destroy a T.I’s business and more
    information for case supportive evidence. Publish such information on the internet and see who runs
    away – could be further evidence of those party to the crime and therefore publicly witnessed.

    An example -

    I mentioned that “crime of the century…hail” word mincing incident on the song by R.E.M and recently the
    band called it quits – Why, did they lose their psych centre (an industry term used to describe a targeted
    individual) their ride, their dump site ?. The more successful, that an entertainer becomes is, sometimes
    indicative of how many T.I’s they have acquired, when one victim gets wise to their scam, sometimes the
    other victims become aware, the act can no longer then therefore function – busted I.O.W’s – they were
    running on stolen heat.

    I have seen this before – when a T.I. gets wise to who is putting them up and dumping hits on them, their
    world ends and that’s cool because it wasn’t my world anyway…these types of perpetrators, that rely on psychological disturbance and privacy violations, DEW harmonic resonance applied, song word mincing
    attacks – hey well, they shouldn’t have access to public performance space in the first place. But what
    are the chances of burning the book, before it is published ?

    All that was required here is evidence of associations between R.E.M and those involved in the making and
    promotions of the motion picture – “crime of the century” when these bastards get exposed, they disband
    and run away, like when N.o.t.World perversion and privacy violations were exposed, it was shut down by financing (Murdoch) with the freeze it, shut it down and run away escapist methods.

    Comment by Robert — September 25, 2011 @ 7:48 am

  947. I do not dispute the very existence (occurrence ever) of a) psychiatric malpractice or corporate or even government (intelligence, spycraft) initiated gang stalking and worse, nor certainly of intellectual property theft. But you are claiming far more. You are claiming particular instances, and you are claiming something far more pervasive than the aforementioned general truths.

    The rest about REM and the motion picture: ‘crime of the century’ is both incoherent and unevidenced. You’ll never expose anyone without far more discipline.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 25, 2011 @ 8:27 am

  948. “And this you refuse to address” – Aaron.

    I am not here to entertain you or your lack of evidence into your alleged victimization.

    “Again, the personal accounts that you present, just make my eyes hurt!” – Aaron

    So who’s jealous ?

    “So I simply don’t know why vast super secret cabals and shadow government…” – Aaron

    You must have skipped class that day, it was information on association of the perpetrators
    and the common religion that they choose to hide behind, so is there any relevance ?
    Cowards, criminals and bullies that scream anti – Semite when their world in the valley of
    darkness gets exposed to the light of a new day – burnt.

    “Your espousal of crank conspiracy theories” – Aaron

    Your lack of an education into consorting practices should have been offset by evidence
    that was presented, You, however are a closed book – unpublished and un-adjusted (edited)

    “any more than your own threats to gang stalk me for daring to question you” – Aaron

    We have seen your lack of evidence supporting your victim claim, now if you would be
    so kind as to present evidence of such a threat, so alleged, to the rest of the readers
    and authors of the topic. We (the forum) accept that this may take some time for your
    deliberate misinterpretations.

    Comment by Robert — September 25, 2011 @ 9:16 am

  949. “You are claiming particular instances, and you are claiming something far more pervasive than the aforementioned general truths” – Aaron

    Your generalizations of gang stalking, well, Aaron they don’t really help other victims of the crime much.
    I am not the only one who knows why.

    “The rest about REM and the motion picture: ‘crime of the century’ is both incoherent and unevidenced. You’ll never expose anyone without far more discipline”

    Gee Aaron, the evidence was exposed on this forum, BEFORE the perpetrators called it quits & ran
    away ! I am continuing to give examples of the perpetrator motives and event histories, sometimes
    events of reform occur in real time, or not so delayed reactions, by the perp crowd, if you like.

    When their waves come crashing down and it is the end of their world, as they would have it.
    Not to mention the end of the News Of The World that no one wanted, based on how it was
    acquired.

    Comment by Robert — September 25, 2011 @ 9:42 am

  950. Yes, what are you here for, Robert? -aside from quoting me out of context, of course! I really do not see the point, and I have been trying to ask you. So, you accuse me of jealousy because I find your personal accounts unintelligible, and deride my lack of evidence to be persuaded of your position. Well then, you are not here in the quest for truth, so I gather. You also deride me because I fail to see any explanatory need of Conspiracism. But then, you consistently fall back upon the emptiest of Ad Hominem. And for that matter, you have shown no interest in my personal victim claim, much less assayed evidence. You wouldn’t even stop flaming so that we could discuss it! I wonder though, do you deny bullying in general?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 25, 2011 @ 10:24 am

  951. You persist Aaron, with your waffle and dribble, get a pacifier baby. Education of victims by a victims
    accounts is what I do. I know this doesn’t sit well with your hidden agenda, but hey – you have nothing
    to offer, only matters listed for mention, that would like to hide. I don’t flame Aaron, I have the oxygen
    and acetylene balance set to cut. It is a destructive mix of the elements, with a warranted destructive
    approach to the perpetrator system – carve it up.

    Comment by Robert — September 25, 2011 @ 11:01 am

  952. Aaron, you sit around on this forum topic and wonder what’s in it for you ? You are already a sliced out
    piece of perp meat. What can I do, put you in the processor and set the velocity to paste ?

    Comment by Robert — September 25, 2011 @ 11:26 am

  953. You always had this problem of reading into, what someone else has written, to get up front, have the last
    say, didn’t you Aaron ? Some find it amusing, but they don’t have ticket sales supporting them, do they ?

    The ticket that the victim needs, well its simple – EXPOSE PERPETRATOR PRACTICES – and score brownie
    points. Flush another perp down the dump hole.

    Comment by Robert — September 25, 2011 @ 11:55 am

  954. Look: You’ve been diagnosed with Schizophrenia. If in conversation I found you entirely genial and reasonable, then in that case, I might wonder at the incongruity. Alas, you’ve been a total hostile jerk and a liar! And all that you are gathering and studying might as well be UFOlogy or Parapsychology.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 25, 2011 @ 5:38 pm

  955. Disturb a brownie, in the pack of biscuits and watch an academic ‘wannabe’ crawl out.
    What’s that smell ? Aaron if you start telling victims, on a site like this that they have a
    psychological disorder, of any kind, then you will find anything but friends, so be
    careful. Have a nice working week or rather – good luck with the job searching.

    Comment by Robert — September 26, 2011 @ 2:04 am

  956. Solidarity amongst do nothings?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 26, 2011 @ 2:45 am

  957. Nothing doing amongst solidarity ?

    Comment by Robert — September 26, 2011 @ 4:55 am

  958. You admit it, then?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 26, 2011 @ 6:32 am

  959. Schizophrenia, Stockholm Syndrome -

    In this day and age of random sources of microwave radiation, especially in countries that have made
    use of the ‘WiFi’ system – this presents growing concerns, not only to Targeted Individuals that have
    made complaints about electro-sensitivity but the effects on young children with developing brains.

    The use of a microwave frequency that is near to the resonant frequency of water, was quite deliberate.
    The published reason ? It is quickly grounded, absorbed by water and therefore dissipated, so any stray
    radiation doesn’t get to far. This presents a problem – human beings are mainly water (by weight) and
    therefore we are receivers for this radiation.

    Worse still is the fact that our world is bathing in this non – ionizing radiation so location of sources of
    electronic harassment (the Frey effect) become increasing difficult to pin point the source thereof.
    Microwave weapons (DEW’s) are part of the arsenal of gang stalkers and if you are victimized by
    such technology there is little help on offer, by the authorities, due to the background radiation levels
    setting up a constant masking effect of the perp signals.

    This is worthy of further discussion, if anyone wishes to chime in. Gang Stalkers is a topic, reasons
    for being victimized abound, discussing their activities could be the ticket to disarm their crimes.
    Gang Stalking perpetrators, that have been disarmed could only come about by the victims being
    forewarned, of what to expect. With enough globally matching complaints, then the authorities have
    no choice, other than to put an end to the crimes that are ongoing, without apprehension. “to be
    forewarned is to be prepared”

    The Psychological & Physiological complaints of exposure to microwave radiation are very similar to
    schizophrenia. So when victims of DEW’s (microwave) attacks complain to the shrinks, the shrinks
    are only interested in the D.S.M pages and are not qualified to discuss DEW’s and seen by the
    shrinks as being ‘mythical’

    Comment by Robert — September 26, 2011 @ 12:30 pm

  960. And lo, even in the presence of the infidel, he calls upon the faithful to preach the word and banish all doubt! For in the unwavering liturgy alone remains the magic to overcome the shadows one day!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 26, 2011 @ 4:33 pm

  961. Just a tad behind the times, maybe the years of prohibition, maybe earlier, the Spanish inquisition perhaps.
    The magic he speaks of shall be replaced by state of the art perpetrator detection systems, in line
    with perpetrator practices and their abuse of the said technologies. The Engineer’s P.O.V. in taught.

    Comment by Robert — September 26, 2011 @ 11:48 pm

  962. Irony, much? The hoary ancient magic alluded whereof is as now practiced by you silly conspiracists, and only the trappings have ever changed since the dawn of humanity. It is the comfort of an idiot, wailing and gnashing signifying nothing!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 27, 2011 @ 10:43 am

  963. For psychiatry to dismiss, without ANY investigations into allegations of DEW’s is complete
    stupidity, on their part. If the shrinks wish to be respected and taken seriously, then perhaps
    they shouldn’t jump on the DSM for answers, as there are no entries for directed energy
    weapons, in the DSM. Anyone wondering why ? So what other reference materials do they
    have ? Then how can they make an appropriate diagnosis ? Idiots – “it’s all in your mind”
    I am surprised by the lack of targeting of shrinks, by DEW’s to drive the point home. I only
    know of one T.I. that was involved in the mental health club, in the U.K. His wife died, due
    to the attacks and he is persecuted, by other shrinks, based on his complaints of DEW’s.

    Weapons that have been around since the light bulb, radio reception, radar, microwave
    oven, ultrasonic loaded ‘self help’ tapes and the nefarious applications of such technology.

    Consider in the late 1800′s the number of complaints received and that flicker rate of 25Hz
    power generation caused on the humble light bulb. These complainants weren’t called crazy,
    their complaint was not only accepted, but the re-engineered system bypassed the harmonic
    at 50Hz and the non- harmonic of 60Hz became the standard. Cinema film rates can be set
    at 25 frames per second, try sleeping with that.

    The story of the 300 mile long D.C. power transmission line that crossed three U.S. States –
    Iowa, Wisconsin and Michigan. The US Navy began experiments and were imposing the ELF
    of around 2.2 Hz upon this line (talking to their submarines) many deaths occurred, people
    were falling asleep behind the wheel, on their way to work, driving off the road or into oncoming
    traffic.

    Parallel stretches of roadway and the power transmission line, the accidents only occurred after
    the Navy began ‘imposing’ upon this transmission line, because it was there and no expense in
    installing hundreds of miles of aerial conductors for their purpose, so they just thought – “this is
    cheap, let’s dump our 2.2 Hz carrier on it”

    ELF radiation can induce chronic fatigue, when they found this out, through *accidents* of course
    they jumped all over the DEW potential applications, the perp’s were not your military or governments,
    more likely corporate criminals that learnt from such ‘cheap ELF aerial’ accidents.

    ELF radiation, like sonic, ultrasonic and microwave is also non-ionizing. So the perp’s can keep
    you awake, put you to sleep and ‘beam’ unwanted advertising into your head. This is already
    established in victim complaints.

    Comment by Robert — September 27, 2011 @ 11:32 am

  964. You criticize shrinks for not investigating that which you yourself refuse to investigate seriously. The psychotherapist is only responsible for diagnosing the patient. And even just from your conduct right here on this board, it is clear to anyone, that you are fairly nuts, irresponsible, closed minded and belligerent! I am just sick of people like you hijacking the conversation and undermining the credibility of real issues like bullying, community mobbing and gang stalking.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 27, 2011 @ 1:39 pm

  965. “You criticize shrinks for not investigating” – Aaron.

    As I have pointed out – the shrinks are not qualified, for any serious investigations into this crime, nor
    are they interested, so their opinions are worthless, yet they charge good money for their invented
    diseased mind theories. “You are possessed” is never one of their theories, and you need more
    exercise, is never their advice.

    “that which you yourself refuse to investigate seriously” – Aaron.

    My research began in 1977 with the design and construction of a narrow bandwidth, multi-pole (8 -
    so a 360 Degree phase shift) sweep-able real time spectrum analyzer, this same year a patent was
    granted to the Englishman – Stephen Court, of Court Acoustics for the real time spectrum analyzer
    with fixed frequency, one third octave bandwidth filter sections.

    “The psychotherapist is only responsible for diagnosing the patient” – Aaron

    They are not taught about DEW’s and only now are they accepting the reality of ritual abuse. This
    tends to indicate that their opinions are far from up-to-date and there profession still lives in the dark
    ages. Worse is the practice of referring to the DSM which is the prescription manual for approved
    drug dealers. The authors of the DSM have a vested interest in Pig Pharma sales, it is nothing
    more than a catalogue, once again – for approved drug dealers

    “And even just from your conduct right here on this board, it is clear to anyone, that you are fairly nuts, irresponsible, closed minded and belligerent!” – Aaron

    So who’s jealous of the contributions to the topic, by alternative reports ?

    “I am just sick of people like you hijacking the conversation and undermining the credibility of real issues
    like bullying, community mobbing and gang stalking” – Aaron

    “I am just sick” was all you had to say Aaron, but thanks for your contributions of more vomit, on the
    vomit and such pools of puke that are clearly visible, so no one else steps in them.

    Comment by Robert — September 28, 2011 @ 4:48 am

  966. I repeat: The shrinks don’t need to be qualified detectives or journalists, their only responsibility is to diagnose the patient. And these are entirely different matters. Indeed no lay person either, can help but observe your deplorable irrationally hostile ill mannered and dishonest conduct on this board, no matter how you struggle to side step that point as well. You are plainly in such denial that you dare not even confront even these very concepts!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 28, 2011 @ 6:15 am

  967. Psychiatry – The art of lying & deception, they don’t need to be qualified in anything else. Drawing
    conclusions from the DSM in accordance with the wishes of their sugar daddy’s – Pig Pharma. Those
    that don’t shall have no desert. The very real possibility that those selling the drugs were responsible
    for the induction and maintenance of the ‘illness’ – Pig Pharma.

    Only those that made you sick can make you better. Only the one that put you in a trance, can take
    it away. Only use genuine spare parts, from an approved supplier – the same parts prone to planned
    failure.

    Aaron, why should I take the shit you are pushing, you may think that you are doing well out of it, but
    what is in it for the rest of us ? Get another gig, because you suck at sales.

    Comment by Robert — September 28, 2011 @ 7:04 am

  968. I agree. To live drug free demands more self work. And you’ve got yours cur out for you!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 28, 2011 @ 7:39 am

  969. I have the cure – cut out (sliced) & pasted for me.

    Comment by Robert — September 28, 2011 @ 11:23 am

  970. Doesn’t that mean your still doing thugs, but cheating ? A Potential Aaron Question.

    Comment by Robert — September 28, 2011 @ 11:42 am

  971. A Potential Aaron Question = A.P.A.Q.

    of what ?

    Comment by Robert — September 28, 2011 @ 11:58 am

  972. “A GAS – see… it is out.

    Comment by Robert — September 28, 2011 @ 1:33 pm

  973. “BOOM”

    Comment by Robert — September 28, 2011 @ 2:04 pm

  974. How many P.P.M – are we dealing with ?

    Comment by Robert — September 29, 2011 @ 11:17 am

  975. Notice how contributions to such a site, go all quiet when you are on the pedestal ? – No I don’t look down.

    Comment by Robert — September 29, 2011 @ 11:33 am

  976. Part of the pattern of gang stalking also includes poisoning, doping the T.I. to bring about a suitable and
    *receptive* state of mind, a controlled condition, for a better choice of words. What the entertainer, Jeremy
    Saxon Oxley put in my frozen food, in December of 1992 had the desired results, sought by the perpetrator
    and his corporate criminal associates. Chronic Fatigue, Electro – Sensitivity, lack of concentration that had
    the adverse affect on my working abilities, making my business no longer viable, jobs that took 3 days to
    complete, well they used to be done in a single day.

    Speaking with a psychiatric nurse, with 25 years experience, at the time and also teaching psych nursing,
    had this to say – “It sounds like strychnine poisoning” I explained to him that about half an hour after eating
    the food – I suffered vision impairment – everything was like looking at it through red cellophane. Loss of
    balance – I had to follow the wall, towards help (a open shop) then the hallucinations – the wall was falling
    away from me – I was falling away from the wall, I connected with the footpath, sustaining a nasty bump on
    the left hand side of my forehead, cuts and bruises to my left elbow and hand.

    I was shook awake by the shop owner, who I was going to see, for help. “Get up, get up – you can’t stay
    here” He hailed down a passing taxi and I was self admitted to the local public hospital, this was the
    evening of the 30th Dec 1992.

    My wallet, money and pager were intact, my keys had been removed from my hip pocket, before I got to
    hospital – presumably as I lay on the footpath unconscious. I made copies of the hospital discharge
    summary, I was only there for a couple of hours – X-Rays, sadly no toxin screening.

    It would be 2.25 years, before I had a full memory recollection of the events – before, during and after the
    incident. Memory suppression is also an important part of gang stalking and related crimes. If someone
    that is targeted, by this crime has no memory of the events, when it began, then they will have little hope
    of remembering who ‘adjusted’ their well-being.

    Comment by Robert — September 30, 2011 @ 11:39 am

  977. So what some victims may summarize from the details above, is that trauma induction is a necessary part
    of the gang stalking crimes, I won’t argue. These patterns are what needs to be exposed, through such
    personal disclosures.

    Comment by Robert — September 30, 2011 @ 12:55 pm

  978. So a further victim summary would be – that there is little difference, between gang stalking and ritual abuse.
    Something that the dept’ of psychiatry is still ‘learning’ about…

    Comment by Robert — September 30, 2011 @ 1:24 pm

  979. Do you still wonder why ?

    What if they were all threatened by such personal disclosures, the patterning ?

    Comment by Robert — September 30, 2011 @ 1:37 pm

  980. Now what are you going to bend – another spoon ?

    Comment by Robert — September 30, 2011 @ 1:50 pm

  981. Actually somewhat coherent, for once. Nevertheless, have you even bothered to consider more prosaic explanations such as botulism or panic attack?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — September 30, 2011 @ 2:03 pm

  982. Well investigated, with food poisoning set out of the list of possibilities, “It sounds like strychnine poisoning”
    The food was prepared by myself, the usual practice of freezing what wasn’t eaten. I was in the toilet, no
    soap, after I pushed the button to down the dump – Oxley figured he had enough time, as I would wash my
    hands, in the toilet – but there was no soap. I came out into the kitchen, he had the lid off the container
    and was scraping away at the surface of the ice crystals on top, with a fork.

    “What are you doing with the frozen food, man”

    Oxley – nervously – “Oh, Oh – nothing, this looks good, are we having some of this, tonight”

    Back on track, we are looking for a chemical that has these effects – Like looking through red cellophane,
    loss of balance, hallucinations (within a half hour) followed by sleeplessness, electro-sensitivity that would continue after the original chemical assault, or if you like – reception to the electronic harassment, word
    mincing games – electro-magnetic assaults. Better still – Nefarious applications of technology, that would
    be used on a victim of a traumatic experience, abused during the *arrested* recovery phase at a level
    of heightened sensitivity. I lived alone, so I had no one to care for me after the chemical assault.

    My keys went missing, I was at the hospital for a few hours, who entered my premises and what kind
    of surveillance and harassment technologies were covertly installed ? Today we have a better
    understanding of the existence of such technologies and how these systems are abused by the perp’s.

    E.M. attacks upon sources of resonant acoustic energy and manipulation of the control track of compact
    disks – induced malfunctioning, but with a rhythm to the error, mark to space ratio, not the usual type of
    errors and mis-tracking of compact disk formats. Personal accounts of their ritual abuse patterning.
    We need more corroborating victim reports, of these types – expose Ritual Abuse Patterning, by these
    corporate criminal thugs.

    Also Further evidence of how the perpetrators financially benefit, from setting people UP, in these ways,
    as there has to be a loop of financial returns, for it to be viable to these corporate criminals. Staging
    and maintaining such crimes – someone gets put down, so someone else can get up and publicly
    perform on stolen heat. It is their criminal network, expose what they do, to the light of a new day’s
    information, damn and burn them.

    Comment by Robert — October 1, 2011 @ 1:18 am

  983. you are losing coherence again, and I have no patience for riddles and less interest. But those symptoms might still fit any number of possibilities including botulism and panic attack.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — October 1, 2011 @ 2:11 am

  984. A Gas See – spark & boom,

    You are not qualified to question someone else’s personal account, so don’t.

    Comment by Robert — October 1, 2011 @ 2:48 am

  985. More belligerent deflection and evasion: What, are you the Pope now? No special qualifications are required for doubting you. Everything you post is a repetitious mass of the same relentless question begging.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — October 1, 2011 @ 3:18 am

  986. Well after I established victim reporting accounts on another WordPress Blog Space – V2K smoking gun
    you then joined this blog spot, with one agenda – attack and discredit the complaints of victims. I also
    suggested that sites like this are ‘shut down’ due to flaming, that is initiated by protection (crime) and
    preservation, site trolling perpetrators. Sadly the Authors of V2K smoking gun did what was forecast
    and a couple of weeks ago that WordPress topic was pulled, in it’s entirety. Fully backed up, as is ALL
    of this. Aaron it is simple – if you have nothing to contribute, then piss off. Politely speaking – Don’t
    bother saying anything ! I know what you are here to achieve, but it isn’t working is it ?

    You come in on personal accounts, that are victim’s telling their stories and criticize their writings, how
    dare you. You weren’t there, with these people, have no personal story of your own, use the space to
    promote attention to your own site, which offers little to gang stalking victims, so you have nothing to
    offer and start doing take away’s.

    Aaron – Your agenda is fairly apparent discredit and decry victim accounts, attack and destroy what
    ever moves and tell people that they must have deserved it. Your fool quest has FAILED – I am still
    here, burning perpetrators – a worthwhile gig, regardless of your driveling interjects & ejactulants.
    Try putting your head & hand around something else…Meanwhile I shall compose myself and return
    with more perp practice exposures and Aaron I know you don’t get off on it, No need to tell me.

    Go see if you can locate the dump site of Jeremy Saxon Oxley, no one in this country (Australia) will.
    Don’t forget the shovel & mattock.

    Comment by Robert — October 1, 2011 @ 5:02 am

  987. Jeremy Saxon Oxley went into hiding, when I started blogging on various sites, about industry people that
    I believed had been murdered, BEFORE the rant’s of entertainment industry *actors* drawing attention to
    themselves, on my established themes. That was the idea – it appears to be working. They can’t splatter
    all of us.

    Comment by Robert — October 1, 2011 @ 5:33 am

  988. Asked and answered.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — October 1, 2011 @ 5:51 am

  989. Hey Aaron,

    What part of the world, do you socialize with ? A particular state, would be helpful and then we could discuss,
    using the local, colloquial standards, you know – get over the language barriers. Might speed things up,
    that are slow (arsehole) on the uptake…

    Comment by Robert — October 1, 2011 @ 6:14 am

  990. Our problem is not regional language barrier, Robert.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — October 1, 2011 @ 9:17 am

  991. Your vocabulary is rather limited Aaron, reading your posts from the first (227) only shows words that
    are used out of context, to flame and aggravate victims and others have told you this. A discrepancy
    exists, with your first post – It doesn’t contain your private advertising of your quest as a fool. The
    following comment makes reference it (228) yet there are no previous entries by you. Would you like
    to explain this ?

    Your first post – (227) -

    The mode of flaming in question is called: sock-puppetry. And clearly, the mod was summarily enlisted as an unwitting proxy in abuse of power.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — August 9, 2010 @ 7:30 am

    The following post – (228) -

    “Bulling”?

    From your website. Surely you jest.

    This shit goes far beyond your imagination, experience or *your* disinformation.

    And you should specifically apply your comments to a certain post.

    You are *the* puppet.

    Comment by obvious — August 13, 2010 @ 5:25 am

    It appears that you are Not only “Aaron Agassi” but also “obvious” as well, because of the content and
    reference to a Website that has no previous ‘insert’ on this topic, the content using the word “Bulling”
    made by “obvious” suggesting Aaron Agassi & obvious are the same entity. Care to Explain ?

    You are here for takeaway’s and have nothing to offer, you collect the responses to your questioning
    that is not your intellectual property and attack those that don’t sit on your tracks, you come across
    as a perpetrator, by design, but in fact you are a parasite, here on the topic only to steal the I.P. and
    responses of others, for your own uses and gains elsewhere.

    How is your stolen script coming along POACHER & THIEF ? I am hoping the site is open to the
    contributions of others, I will happily tell them what you are doing here, so then try screwing anyone
    else, for what you lack. you might find it will become ‘difficult’ So care to answer any of the questions
    raised, probably not, huh ? They are not on the “Agassi” track-work, so not sitting in the “Agassi”
    script.

    Comment by Robert — October 2, 2011 @ 8:03 am

  992. “Bulling” would be a typo, either on my part or yours. I have actually discoursed upon bullying.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — October 2, 2011 @ 8:49 am

  993. Robert, I believe in free speech and criticism, whilst you assert an imagined right never to be criticized.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — October 2, 2011 @ 9:08 am

  994. A Blog that I posted on V2K smoking gun, this was just around a week before Aaron first posted here.
    It makes an example of a writing perpetrator that procures it’s story lines from sites like this, uses the
    Victims name, in the production, as well, to add further pain, to the exploited victims suffering. It is
    all about maximizing ATTENTION to a psychological product (escapism – entertainment) through the
    premeditated, willful and maintained psychological disturbance of innocent human beings

    Robert Says:
    July 27, 2010 at 2:43 am
    Actual Scenario (1995)
    After about 2.5 years of abuse by these perpetrators, this being March 1995, a difference to ‘their game’
    came into play. The good cop, bad cop scenario. I found the best relief from their program of torture was
    to keep busy, psychologically and physically, so I could sleep at night without sedatives.

    One day and like any other day the abuse was continuing. I was in the process of making some PCB’s
    (Printed Circuit Boards) and drilling holes in the same.

    The hounding at this time was “Heathen, Heathen” as well as other verbal assaults that didn’t stop.
    A male voice broke through the drivel of the bitching choir and said “ I have had enough of this, what
    has this man done to deserve this all the time ?” “Heathen, Heathen” bitch continued.

    The male said “Right he has won his Ticket” one of the females said “Oh yeah what’s his status” the male
    voice said “Super Star with Status and Honors above anyone else” A female said “Bullshit” and the
    Heathen chanting and other insults continued.

    I thought “What is the name of the unit chanting heathen?” The male voice said “that’s Gloria Estefan
    and I’m Doctor Martin Shaw” I didn’t know much about Gloria Estefan, I didn’t know what she looked like
    and I didn’t know any of her music. I remember seeing a magazine poster outside a newsagent with words
    like “Gloria, Queen of the Dikes” or words to that effect. (1994)

    I then thought “How can I get rid of her, I’m sick of this shit” Doctor Martin Shaw said this “Just lock her
    up somewhere” I thought “What do you mean?” Dr. Shaw – “Create a space and put her in it” I then reconstructed a small room and removed the window, placed a pedestal drill press, bar stool and a
    woman dressed in prison overalls on the stool, drilling holes manually in piece work, thinking, see how
    you like it ? Doctor Martin Shaw then said, “That’s enough Rob, now forget the scene”

    The woman started ranting “What’s that, I want one of those, Get me one of those things” In retrospect –
    It was like she was she was trying to keep this “created” scene alive (In my mind) long enough to cut an
    exit path for herself and probably dump the “scene” on someone else. Suffice to say no more “heathen” hounding from this unit. Now the chanting was going in another direction “Dr Shaw, Dr. Shaw” incessantly.

    So in effect, one of Madonna’s chooks had been busted with it’s hounding and hitting out at me.
    An interesting collection of reproducible recording’s then came to new light. Clearly this “Doctor
    Martin Shaw” was part of the harassment program all along. Reasons for believing this ?

    The Madonna Album “Erotica” the track –
    “Why’s it so hard”
    Some of the many ‘Hits’ loaded on this track –
    Original Line – “I’m telling you, brothers, sisters, why can’t we learn to, challenge the system, before
    it’s too late, love your brother, love your sister, now, why’s it so damn hard.

    Imposed Hit(s) – “I’m tailing you, big brother’s system why can’t we lose you, shit on the system well
    before it’s too late, fuck your brother, SHAW, SHAW, SHAW (mis-tracking, on this one word) shut your
    system, down, ’cause he’s so damn hot”

    As mentioned before – external electronic harassment to what is a ‘closed loop’ HiFi system and
    hundreds of hours of recordings with this mis-tracking in much of it, but only with Madonna’s Albums
    (Except for I’m Breathless) being effected by this “Rhythmic” percussive mal-functioning of the 8
    times over-sampling compact disk player, brand is Denon (Cost more than $1,000 in the late 1980’s –
    one of the best that money could buy at this time)

    The timing of the malfunctioning was like the stuttering of the Warner “Loony Tunes” character’s.
    “Sh, sh, sh shaw you’re system, Sh, sh Shove your system, Sh, sh shut you’re system down.

    Of course when I demonstrated these recorded harassment incidents to people they blamed the
    C.D’s and the Equipment. The timing of the mis-tracking wasn’t the same as disk or equipment
    failures and I tried to convince people that it was only on Madonna’s albums and it even did this
    with new C.D’s and Players.

    I remember going to a McDonalds restaurant in St.Peters, An inner south western suburb of Sydney,
    not far from where I was living in Enmore at the time, with an experiment in mind.

    They had a C.D duke box and I played some Madonna songs and YES they mis-tracked complete with
    the inserted, disturbing and targeting verbal assault. I asked a couple of female patrons “Do come here often ? (Yes) has that (pointing to the duke box) ever done this before? (No)

    I returned a week later and the duke box was gone. (1993) Don’t these idiots care about targeting
    someone in public places ? Potential Witnesses & Evidence ?

    Anyone else seen INCEPTION yet ?

    Company – Warner

    Theme – Drugging an individual to get inside and Thought Mine, using technology (contact electrodes – Neurophone and/or controlled – jointly ‘wired’ brain waveform monitoring to ‘synch’ the individuals) to
    bring the ‘extractors’ into the mind of the T.I. for such “Informational Recovery of Secrets”

    T.I’s Name (In the Movie) – Robert
    Nolan – “The story was conceived by me about 10 years ago”

    ME – Nolan you lack originality of I.P. and the likes of YOU, Warner haven’t you recovered from your exploitation of me, enough returns on your bad investment in Madonna yet ? So you continue with your ‘program’ of exploitation on other themes.

    It is important to KICK the perpetrators butt holes, with information like this and if one blog space
    goes down, pick it up and paste it somewhere else. They can’t keep closing down these sorts of
    public spaces, to remove victim accounts, of exploitation, because it leaves a trail behind, after all,
    if they are innocent, of such crimes – Why try and hide ?

    Comment by Robert — October 2, 2011 @ 9:48 am

  995. unintelligible

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — October 2, 2011 @ 11:22 am

  996. Of course, an explanation of the mind reading stuff – “I thought” is in order -

    This is also part of the patterning, the hits are dumped on you (repetitively) while you sleep, along
    with the triggers. Your own thoughts ? NO, far from it – for example –
    “What is the name of the unit chanting heathen?” (Refer to post No. 995 about 1/3 of the way down)

    I had never used the word “unit” to describe anyone, not even in the thought process. So the responses
    that you think are your own, certainly are not, you are reacting to a trigger and the words are a program.

    This is why many victims become aware, that they are being interfered with, because there will be
    discrepancies, such as words that are not in their normal dialogue (or thought processes) that is, how
    these words have been applied, in the suggestive ‘hits’ – abnormally and out of character, so when
    used in such ways, reveal the crimes.

    Comment by Robert — October 2, 2011 @ 11:30 am

  997. “unintelligible” – Aaron (post 996)

    Yes Aaron, to a poacher with an applied below average intellectual function. I know this stuff (my writings)
    doesn’t suit your agenda, what ever script you are working on, so perhaps look elsewhere for a suitable
    dump site for your shit. What I have to say is very much in line with the topic and quite frankly, I don’t
    see where you have slotted in, with anything worthwhile, so go away ! I am not here to help your kind
    (Industry Poachers & Plagiarists) but reduce them to ash – burn them first. Your kind just take and only
    give shit back.

    Comment by Robert — October 2, 2011 @ 11:55 am

  998. raving ad hominem already asked and answered

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — October 2, 2011 @ 12:36 pm

  999. 1,000 cycles, Hertz can also be expressed as 1KHz. Much of my research into Acoustic Sensitivity or -
    How come I can hear this crap and those nearby cant ? As we get older, the top end (higher frequencies)
    begin to roll off, no longer can we hear the full, healthy human range of say 20Hz – 20KHz. Nothing lasts
    forever…

    1KHz is an interesting frequency that we tend to remain highly sensitive to, unless our hearing has been
    damaged. For those that remember the 33 RPM vinyl records – a function of the R.I.A.A standard was
    that the frequency of the recorded material was flat at 1KHz, that is there was no attenuation or gain
    at this frequency.

    Was this an arbitrary choice, or was it the ideal gain structure, across the bandwidth to suit the materials
    used ? and just coincidence that it is an area of audible radiation that humans are highly sensitive to.
    What complainants of gang stalking and acoustic DEW’s harassment also state is the occurrence of
    Tinnitus that accompany the directed acoustic attacks. I met one musician who’s Tinnitus was the
    perfect pitch of the note “C” he used his tinnitus to tune his guitar !

    There are conflicting reports that suggest that Tinnitus AND Verbal messages, together are signs of
    schizophrenia, Refer to the YouTube report of post No. 869, copy the link and stick it up the shrinks
    nose…Shrinks will continue to play devils advocate games with T.I’s until they are no longer a
    respected profession or they are dead.

    No investigations into the use of technology to disturb a person is a crime, in it’s own right. It wouldn’t
    be difficult to set up a psychiatrist with a malpractice law suit, for failure to correctly diagnose a T.I’s
    complaint. Clean a few of them out, watch the rest come up to date and abandon draconian ways.
    Remember they are just drug pushers – no great loss to society.

    Comment by Robert — October 2, 2011 @ 1:35 pm

  1000. giberish

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — October 2, 2011 @ 2:17 pm

  1001. ALL OF AARONS POSTS BACK TO
    France Quenneville (@QuennevilleF) — September 24, 2011 @ 5:48 am
    WHO WAS THE LAST POSTER, ALL OTHER POSTS ARE BY ROBERT

    All 21 of Aaron’s posts – are nothing more than an ongoing & pointless attack
    by a site trolling insect. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO REMOVE THIS
    CRETIN ? AS HE HAS NOTHING TO OFFER.

    giberish

    raving ad hominem already asked and answered

    Robert, I believe in free speech and criticism, whilst you assert an imagined right never to be criticized.

    “Bulling” would be a typo, either on my part or yours. I have actually discoursed upon bullying.

    Our problem is not regional language barrier, Robert.

    Asked and answered

    More belligerent deflection and evasion: What, are you the Pope now? No special qualifications are required for doubting you. Everything you post is a repetitious mass of the same relentless question begging.

    you are losing coherence again, and I have no patience for riddles and less interest. But those symptoms might still fit any number of possibilities including botulism and panic attack.

    Actually somewhat coherent, for once. Nevertheless, have you even bothered to consider more prosaic explanations such as botulism or panic attack?

    I agree. To live drug free demands more self work. And you’ve got yours cur out for you!

    I repeat: The shrinks don’t need to be qualified detectives or journalists, their only responsibility is to diagnose the patient. And these are entirely different matters. Indeed no lay person either, can help but observe your deplorable irrationally hostile ill mannered and dishonest conduct on this board, no matter how you struggle to side step that point as well. You are plainly in such denial that you dare not even confront even these very concepts!

    You criticize shrinks for not investigating that which you yourself refuse to investigate seriously. The psychotherapist is only responsible for diagnosing the patient. And even just from your conduct right here on this board, it is clear to anyone, that you are fairly nuts, irresponsible, closed minded and belligerent! I am just sick of people like you hijacking the conversation and undermining the credibility of real issues like bullying, community mobbing and gang stalking.

    Irony, much? The hoary ancient magic alluded whereof is as now practiced by you silly conspiracists, and only the trappings have ever changed since the dawn of humanity. It is the comfort of an idiot, wailing and gnashing signifying nothing!

    And lo, even in the presence of the infidel, he calls upon the faithful to preach the word and banish all doubt! For in the unwavering liturgy alone remains the magic to overcome the shadows one day!

    You admit it, then?

    Solidarity amongst do nothings?

    Look: You’ve been diagnosed with Schizophrenia. If in conversation I found you entirely genial and reasonable, then in that case, I might wonder at the incongruity. Alas, you’ve been a total hostile jerk and a liar! And all that you are gathering and studying might as well be UFOlogy or Parapsychology.

    Yes, what are you here for, Robert? -aside from quoting me out of context, of course! I really do not see the point, and I have been trying to ask you. So, you accuse me of jealousy because I find your personal accounts unintelligible, and deride my lack of evidence to be persuaded of your position. Well then, you are not here in the quest for truth, so I gather. You also deride me because I fail to see any explanatory need of Conspiracism. But then, you consistently fall back upon the emptiest of Ad Hominem. And for that matter, you have shown no interest in my personal victim claim, much less assayed evidence. You wouldn’t even stop flaming so that we could discuss it! I wonder though, do you deny bullying in general?

    I do not dispute the very existence (occurrence ever) of a) psychiatric malpractice or corporate or even government (intelligence, spycraft) initiated gang stalking and worse, nor certainly of intellectual property theft. But you are claiming far more. You are claiming particular instances, and you are claiming something far more pervasive than the aforementioned general truths.
    The rest about REM and the motion picture: ‘crime of the century’ is both incoherent and unevidenced. You’ll never expose anyone without far more discipline.

    Robert, I skip over what I find either irrelevant or just incoherent. I have attempted to engage with you over what I see as central question as to relevance, necessary to any hope of coherence let alone credibility, but you either ignore or lash out in abuse and accusation. One thing is clear: Criminals and bullies certainly exist. What’s more, either are known to engage in organized stalking or to incite community mobbing. So I simply don’t know why vast super secret cabals and shadow government must be evoked, any more than angels and flying saucers. And this you refuse to address.
    Again, the personal accounts that you present, just make my eyes hurt! They need major copy editing. They are just unreadable. Aside from which, again, what you read into them, does not emerge on its own for me. I see no clear premise, followed by whatever logic, and following to your conclusions. You’ve got to edit!
    Central to getting the goods and exposing any evil doers whatsoever, there also remain questions of evidence, of testable hypotheses with clear conditions of refutation for what are scientific claims, and standards of evidence for claims that should be subject to detective work of serious journalistic investigation.
    All in all, your unreasonable hostility and dismissal of any honest opinion on my part through persecution mania, only makes you come across as crazy. Your espousal of crank conspiracy theories aligned with bigoted factions most likely amenable to gang stalking and worse, doesn’t help either, any more than your own threats to gang stalk me for daring to question you.
    Robert, there is little doubt that thugs can be hired for all manner of harassment and intimidation, let alone surveillance, as for a well familiar example, in order to clear resisting tenants in order to clear the way for demolition subsequent to crooked real estate development projects. But of course your claims are more bizarre, extreme, and indeed entirely bereft of compelling evidentiary support.

    THIS IS ALL YOU ARE ABOUT AARON – IT SPELLS OUT NOTHING ABOUT GANG STALKING AND DEW’S
    IT IS A LOAD OF CONTENTIOUS DRIVEL AND NIT – PICKING AND IT IS NO DIFFERENT TO WHAT
    OTHERS HAVE HAD TO SAY ABOUT YOUR ATTITUDE TO THE TOPIC – YOU SUCK.

    Comment by Robert — October 2, 2011 @ 3:31 pm

  1002. One part of the one sided discussion (so far !) is the ongoing devestation caused by the AUSTRALIAN
    designed and GIVEN AWAY (C.S.I.R.O) WiFi system, which as mentioned, operates at the Resonant
    Frequency of Water which is approximately 2,400,000,000Hz (2.4GHz). Those diagnosed as suffering
    from Electro-Sensitivity FUCKING HATE IT, but hey, they are a minority group – Right ? So the larger
    populous couldn’t give a shit, it’s not an epidemic – YET.

    Big plans, in the pipeline for national and international fibre-optic systems but still remains a pipe dream.
    But back in the land of Nod, what will become a big problem is the long term exposure to Microwave
    radiation and it’s ill effects – s l o w l y being realized by “the powers that be” as a very real threat to
    human MENTAL HEALTH.

    Gang Stalkers paradise, it’s everywhere you go. The Gang Stalking Scum simply move in on top of
    the T.I. that suffers from E.S. focus upon them and psychologically kick their heads in, in their usual
    cowardly numbers game. Psychological modulation of a vacant microwave carrier (comm’s) wave.
    Not unlike the U.S. Navy dumping 2.2Hz on the vacant D.C. power transmission line, as mentioned.

    Gang Stalking reached a massive all time high with the proliferation of microwave radiation. Gang
    Stalking scum holding séance ‘group meets’ except their target is not a spook. A séance isn’t a
    bad analogy for gang stalking activities. Now let’s see, how could we set the spooks upon the
    spooks ?

    Comment by Robert — October 2, 2011 @ 7:28 pm

  1003. NONSTOP PULSED 2.4 GHZ RADIATION INSIDE OUR HOMES

    For those interested in Microwave Radiation within our homes & businesses and the researched
    adverse effects, the lack of concern by governments to do anything about it with regards to a
    revision of what could be considered safe levels of exposure to this type of radiation.

    Some standards say that 10 Watts per Square Metre energy densities at above 2 GHz are ‘safe’

    FCC/ANSI – USA 10,000,000 μW/m2

    So pass the marshmallows !

    Consider the DECT phone technology radiates pulsed microwave continuously at near the resonant
    frequency of water, whether the phone is in use or not – 0.4 Watts per square Metre at a distance
    of 30cm this from the DECT Phone Base Station.

    The US ‘Gigaset’ technology is worse – 0.7 Watts per square metre energy density at 30cm from the
    base station.

    http://www.tetrawatch.net/papers/non-stop_dect.pdf

    This is a lot ‘hotter’ than cell tower energy densities…Set the oven temperature to 50 Deg C.
    Place a piece of meat on an oven tray, place the tray on the middle shelf.
    Cook @ 50 Deg C for 24 Hours, a very, very slow oven for an extended period of exposure
    to infrared (ionizing) radiation and it still gets badly burnt – charcoal.

    If a microwave oven (non-ionizing radiation) was set to a low power level (this is difficult to do because
    these devices are not designed for continuous duty cycling) and the ‘test’ piece of meat was left in there
    for an extended period of time what would the resultant piece of meat look like ?

    Charcoal…
    So why is non-ionizing radiation any different to ionizing with regards to damage to healthy cells ?

    The Frey Effect -

    Requires pulsed microwave radiation, the cordless phones – Dect & Gigaset have this requirement
    ‘on-board’ the pulses occur at 10mS intervals, or as a frequency this is 100Hz.
    This pulsed microwave radiation is constant, with power applied to the base station. The other
    requirement for V2K success is the waveform shape – it must be square wave.

    The Dect & Gigaset waveforms are indeed square waves. Next is power densities, Frey mentions
    10mW/CM2 which is only 0.1 Watts/M2 (.01 = 10mW) x 10,000 (the number of square C.M in 1
    square Metre) So this power level is also supplied by the Dect & Gigaset technologies – easily.

    So these systems for personal communications can be used for nefarious purposes, such as V2K.
    You purchased them and brought them into your homes & work places. Were there WARNING
    signs on the product ? NO – Let’s get the law suits going…

    WARNING SIGN – This technology maybe harmful to your physical and/or mental health.
    Should not be used by those individuals Victimized by Occultists, Gang Stalkers or those that
    suffer from Electro – Sensitivity. (E.S)

    “I am not victimized by occultists (hidden) or Gang Stalkers and I certainly do not suffer from
    so called ‘electro-sensitivity’ so what has this got to do with me”

    Don’t worry, you are already brain dead…OR haven’t been baked long enough, in the slow cooker.
    The dummying down of society ? Maybe.

    Comment by Robert — October 2, 2011 @ 8:02 pm

  1004. The Neighbors that quit their rental housing -

    In 2002 I relocated from Sydney (Australia) to a smaller fringe city. Those that were intent on continuing
    to stalk, intimidate, harass, assault with GBH and exploit had a slight problem, no vacant real estate any-
    where near me. They need proximity to their T.I. The industry intent on maintaining the stalking-to-exploit
    has no shortage of money but what would they do for a spook house ? A tenanted, rental situation did
    exist – diagonally across the street, about a hundred feet away, wall to wall (windows to windows) and
    within two weeks (17/07/02) the tenant was behaving like he just won the lottery.

    Out went a truck load of personal property that he could have sold, for a tidy sum, but he put it out on the
    street for a council clean-up, these are booked as required. I approached him and socially spoke about
    his move – “Oh, I got a REALLY good job, in Sydney” What about all this stuff – “I’m not worried about it,
    I am gonna’ buy all new stuff” fair enough, Oh well good luck with the new job, see you around.

    “Fair Enough” but what moved in wasn’t – Perp No. ONE – A unemployed husband, that left everyday, at
    the same time, came home – same time, each afternoon, making like he had a job. He drove around the
    city and outer areas, showing up in shopping centers and other places, that I caught public transport, to
    get to. The guy didn’t have any business at these places – it was like he was *saying* I know where you
    are going and I’m going to be there *watching* you.

    Now the wife carried on with some serious shit, in the aggravation of me department with noise campaigns
    and verbal splatter. Her two kids were at school, the husband would show up all over town and the rest
    of the immediate neighborhood went to work – real jobs. Within a week of moving in, on top of my privacy
    the verbal started – The first one shouted across the street and in my open front door – “We’re Here”
    She was alone and the comment wasn’t directed at anyone, there was no one around. How strange, I
    thought – why is she pointing her mouth at me ? She couldn’t see where I was, inside my new home.

    Next incident, is a few days later and her son comes home from school and they are talking, outside
    their front door, the son went inside and she yelled out, in my direction – “I told you not to slam the
    door – it disturbs someone, in the street” I went to the area of my lounge-room, where I could see
    and looked across the street and she was glaring straight at me.

    Gang Stalking brief on -
    Obtaining Proximity to the T.I.
    Following someone around in places where the T.I. is likely to be going (shops)
    Acoustic & Verbal Noise Campaigns, Intimidation and Harassment via “Street” theatre “Skits”
    and this was within the first week, what would follow on is more than worthy of a book for
    police prosecution (or private actions) this would include what they then did, to my next door
    neighbor and his family life, when he caught her (Perp No. 1) one day, in full flight, at me.
    His vehicle was at the repairer’s shop, she didn’t know HE WAS HOME.

    Comment by Robert — October 2, 2011 @ 10:24 pm

  1005. All staged for a BLADE, still in prison ?

    Perp No. ONE, she did the make-up jobs for the female act (aggressor – vampire) with attitude. This was
    ‘blade III’ a week before local (Aust) screenings began, she was taken off the M.E.D and denied same
    *make up theme* – Patsy.

    Bury them, or at least keep them in the dark, from what they continue to do, to each other, well it kind of
    feels pointless – find another gig. Another hat store. There must be someway into this tttrap, ’cause it
    doesn’t cost that much compared to the returns, save a few good people. So much for draconian waste.

    moving on – off (digital age) …

    Comment by Robert — October 3, 2011 @ 4:03 am

  1006. The posse doesn’t know what’s going DOWN, but the Sniper has been locked up for TAX EVASION.
    Incentives for the POACHING crowd are of course fiscal, BUT drug economies keep the status quo.

    Keeps drug driven crowds from talking too much – GANG STALKERS ! P..st – like a paying gig ?

    “We have got this guy, with a ticket, but no one knows who he is, “WE” could make it worth your
    while – here is the theme – try and get as many around him involved in the *PROGRAM*, as you
    can. (The responsibilities of Perp No. ONE)

    Their System – What System ? It’s all overdue, (It’s all over jew)

    The substance represents their “illicit” soliciting economy, so if a perpetrator requests payment
    in cash, for their *PART* the handler (or controller) just liquidate some *ASSETS* – Status Quo
    preserved.

    Comment by Robert — October 4, 2011 @ 10:57 am

  1007. Turpitude – turd pit jewed

    Comment by Robert — October 4, 2011 @ 11:13 am

  1008. So what kind of SHIT we selling each other ?

    The PLANET is “Oh Bleak” – & I thought we, wee all in it together ?

    Comment by Robert — October 4, 2011 @ 11:36 am

  1009. The destruction of all ECONOMIES, it is favourable dude.

    Comment by Robert — October 4, 2011 @ 11:58 am

  1010. That is some really nice work you are doing there …….man.

    Now your out of a gig.

    Destroy the economy that revolves around getting a gig.

    Planned Failure & Obsolescence – it wasn’t worth that much. P..st – We could build water heaters that
    lasted for fifty years, or more. But we would be out of gig, if our work revolved around everything else
    in the trade, …because if someone made a water heater unit with replaceable ANODES, well dude,
    there isn’t a whole lot of “PASSED” corrosion, that would get through to induce further corrosion.

    The Plumbing is all wrong…

    Comment by Robert — October 4, 2011 @ 12:47 pm

  1011. Selective leaching – of the zinc, in the *BRASS* alloy.

    Comment by Robert — October 4, 2011 @ 1:02 pm

  1012. But the leeches are full of a less noble metal, well, when the magnesium passes the point of no return.

    It is monitored cause we have an applied Voltage x Current = Power, the Watt meter shows an
    increasing power comsumption on the *Watch Dog” D.C power supply, that kicks in when the potential
    difference between the decaying anode, and brass, well the applied P.D. – Power, that costs more than
    a new anode.

    Applied Physics 101.

    So what kind of shit we selling to each other man ?

    There goes the junky age dude. So much for burying all this shit in land fill. Future generations won’t be
    able to warrant digging it up, let alone afford it. Unless it can be modified. –
    Planned Obsolescence, planned failure – ever tried re-gassing a BIC writer, the flint still works.

    So digging up the past (passed) won’t be viable ?

    It isn’t Egypt any more.

    Comment by Robert — October 4, 2011 @ 1:41 pm

  1013. Pyramid systems – they have already been *cleansed* – what, did you have some kind of calcium
    phosphate deficiency ?

    Comment by Robert — October 4, 2011 @ 2:18 pm

  1014. They were busted for snorting the bones.

    Comment by Robert — October 4, 2011 @ 2:32 pm

  1015. The Perpetrator and Schizophrenia

    When my personal awareness developed, cautiousness (paranoia to a shrink) kicked in, I had a full and
    accountable memory of what J.S.Oxley had done with my frozen food and the events that occurred on
    either side of the incident – His approaching, by covert stalking and interfering with those in my immediate
    area that I socialized with. Theo Dangas and a Band called ‘Paris Green’ who were party to the crime,
    whether initially knowledgeable or not, this band was regarded ‘as an institution’ in the inner western
    suburb’s of Sydney.

    Theo’s part in the equation was to encourage me to show an interest, in the Band’s Monday night’s
    performances, at the Enmore hotel. I had worked in the entertainment industry as a sound engineer,
    but back then, I hadn’t worked at that type of employment or had anything to do with ‘that’ industry
    for more than 4 years. The Band was due to start , with their Monday night performances in October
    of 1992. I was hounded by Theo, prior to this, to come down and do their sound. I ‘thought’ what the
    heck (another word, I didn’t use) no responsibilities (unpaid work) and no commitments, as I was doing
    fine outside of the industry of entertainment.

    I didn’t see any threat or danger, as this was well ‘hidden’. Every performance was recorded, direct
    from the mixing console to cassette tape. I had no idea of what was subliminally, ‘buried’ in the sound
    that I was recording. Things were not that obvious, with regards to the hidden threat so they decided
    to turn up the modulation –

    “Tomorrow, we’re are gonna’ come down there and pull the carrier and you won’t be talking to no one”
    (Greek-Australian Accent)
    This was loud an clear to the 50 or so people in the room and got EVERYONE talking, so as to speak.

    The receiver for this transmission could have been buried in any of the bands equipment, a large Tape
    Loop Echo (Roland) used by the guitarist (Floyd Vincent), the Keyboards were an old analogue Moog
    Synth’ system (Jamie Fielding – dead – 6 months later, he wanted to talk to me about what he was party
    to, but never got the chance)

    I then went back through the recordings of the previous gig’s and they were loaded with personal
    Innuendo, loaded all through the material. It reminded me of a band conversation that I overheard as
    I approached the Band room one night – the drummer – Louis Burdett – “I don’t know, he’s thick or
    something and I can’t get him up, or on him” his back was to the door, but the look on Floyd Vincent’s
    face told the story, when I walked up to the door.

    I did one last show, a really good crowd, afterwards I cornered and abused three of the band members,
    in the car park – Hawkins, Burdett and Vincent – “PARASITE GREED” (as in a smear of the bands
    name – Paris Green) it was around this time, when the covert stalking ‘handler/controller’ (Oxley) went
    overt and made his approaches, to ‘get in the door’ and dope my frozen food. I hadn’t seen or spoken
    to him for years.

    Jeremy Saxon Oxley uses the ‘System’ to hide behind “MAD” the man is pure evil, as in “BAD”. So
    Many of the Gang Stalking junkies (the industry of entertainment is full of them – GLOBALLY) hide,
    as in “FAKED” mental illness – schizophrenia. Mental hospitals and the mental health system are used
    by people , like Oxley, for recruiting new gang stalking, drug fucked, perpetrator ‘Want to bees’

    The economy is illicit substances, rewarding dog’s for their *PART* in doing their *JOB* in the art
    Gang Stalking Crimes. Once again – it keeps the status quo, no one talks. We know that the ‘DOGS’
    don’t bite the hand that *FEEDS* them – junk food.

    Comment by Robert — October 6, 2011 @ 4:46 am

  1016. Who are these perpetrators, these organised crime groups, that are doing this to me ?

    – JUNKIES.

    “We are all in this together”

    “But you can’t prove it was us”

    To a victim of this type of crime, there seems to be little help on offer. WRONG.
    Understanding the weapons, that the perpetrator system uses and the fact that
    they operate right under the *NOSES* of the authorities, (psychiatry – like the police)

    “If you wish to commit a crime, do it outside a police station, as it is the last place
    that the cop’s will look”

    So, to understand what the perp weapons, in use are, is a step closer to disarming
    them. Perp’s without weapons – What Perp’s ? What PURPOSE ? – Did you
    really think that psychological abuse was entertaining ?

    There goes the Junkie Age of meaningless values…

    Comment by Robert — October 6, 2011 @ 6:41 am

  1017. So the English police were debriefed, by an expert witness in microwave systems…

    WE see that the ‘controlling’ parties , of perpetrators activities, now have full remote
    control of the authorities – from within the ‘station’ ?

    Mobile ‘non – ionizing’ systems as well…

    They are being ‘inducted’…takes time – slow cooker.

    Comment by Robert — October 6, 2011 @ 7:20 am

  1018. Police Induction – hop into the mobile microwave oven.

    Comment by Robert — October 6, 2011 @ 7:35 am

  1019. GOD made me do it !

    NO, you were ripped off dude.

    Comment by Robert — October 6, 2011 @ 9:32 am

  1020. O, it is so internal.

    Comment by Robert — October 6, 2011 @ 10:10 am

  1021. God doesn’t make directed energy weapons. Evil spirited people do, they test them out and use these
    devices on innocent human beings that don’t understand what is happening to them. The victims complain
    to the authorities, are referred to the psychiatrists, who love to play the devil’s advocate games, such victims
    are further persecuted by suggestions that their complaints are delusional and no investigations, into the
    applications of this technology, are undertaken. This is the way of it, presently and without reform, this is
    the way it will continue sadly, without these necessary reforms.

    The obvious solution is to band together and expose as much of the shortcomings, of this system and to do
    irreversible damage to the perpetrators. It doesn’t matter who they think they are, they are just scum, on
    power trips that want to play God. They aren’t good enough, to be Gods, never were and never will be.
    Exposure of their technology, that remains in place and in use, is a start on the path of disarming these
    satanic scum.

    Good people don’t violate Human and God given rights, Satanic Ritual Abusers do. What do they have
    to gain from such abuses ? Money and further power status. Destroy respect for those with money, based
    on how they acquired it, when their methods were cut throat and breached human rights, for example.

    Their methods are hidden from common understanding’s, not excepted as reality – no wonder reality sucks.
    Educate victims of this crime, disarm the gang stalking junkies and this crime game is over – before it gets
    any worse, this is now required and without delay, long term exposure to non-ionising radiation is the slow
    cook and kill method, cleansed by fire – but this wasn’t the will of the creator.

    Expose the valley of darkness, fear not what the evil has done, shine the light on what evil does – the
    preventative beats the shit out of the *cure* as there isn’t one, regardless of what the noses (psychiatry)
    might have you believe.

    Comment by Robert — October 7, 2011 @ 11:36 am

  1022. What if the processes of evolution included telepathy ?

    Then we have ape shit that wish to see the human race remain as ape shit, this is not progressive.
    We have the jealous on power trips, that can’t compete. We have idiots selling Communications
    Systems, that feel threatened. Comment – get another gig. For victims to be gang stalked by a
    sub species, is a great travesty and a sub species (gang stalkers) on drugs makes it worse.

    A real set-back for progress. We have a planet bathing in Microwave Radiation that destroys
    progressive evolution. The ‘head sets’ are rounded up and told they are nuts – if they complain
    about electro- systems ‘fucking with them’

    I had always wondered about the development discussions, with a woman masquerading as
    Madonna in 1985, regarding Eastern Africa. When the real deal (Madonna) actually set about,
    with the *plan* and adopted kids from Eastern Africa I stopped wondering, who was in my
    ear, back then.

    What really pissed me off, was that the shrinks were not that interested in taking further
    dictation, back then, in 1985. A whole lot more was pilfered and sold to the highest bidders.
    EXPLOITATION of VICTIMS – evidential values.

    Comment by Robert — October 7, 2011 @ 12:39 pm

  1023. 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1,024, 2,048, 4,096, 8,192, 16,384, 32,768, 65,536.

    Rounded off Isometrics -

    1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 63, 125, 250, 500, 1K, 2K, 4K, 8K, 16K, 32K…etc

    It’s far from *the perfect world* The TT (the meat pie) is blamed – Junk Food. – 3.141592654.

    Sorry – Post No. 1024, it’s a damn program number.

    When it comes to the perpetrator system – the numbers, well they are all wrong – Perp’s =
    MINORITY GROUP, presently that is. I can’t see their numbers growing, like what’s the point ?
    Perp’s require power over others and their economic systems are being ‘torched’ , so without
    the root path of EVIL, where will the perp’s have purpose ?

    A Clever Convoluted Trap. The perpetrator crowd have no idea what kind of shit is going down.

    Comment by Robert — October 7, 2011 @ 1:16 pm

  1024. THEY ARE.

    Comment by Robert — October 7, 2011 @ 1:48 pm

  1025. “The Perpetrator Crowd, the perpetrator crowd…going down”

    Repeat.

    Comment by Robert — October 7, 2011 @ 2:16 pm

  1026. The Victoria on the Park Hotel, Enmore

    Located in the inner south western suburb’s of Sydney, part of the area, under control of the council of
    Marrickville, remained the theme park for psychological assault and gang stalking operations. In early
    1993 a prepared video was played on the large screen monitor, intended to disturb me. This Video
    would be accompanied by a stalking skit by a woman masquerading as Madonna.

    The video was an image cut of Madonna facing the camera, and projected onto a screen with the
    reporter sitting in front of the screen, with her back to the camera, you could see that the reporter
    was casting a shadow, onto the screen shot of Madonna. Madonna’s voice was dubbed, for the
    assault, with an American woman’s voice like Madonna’s filling in the Audio response.

    The Reporter –

    “Tell us Madonna, what are you doing in Australia” ?

    Madonna Dubbed Response –

    “I am here to find my husband”

    This assault was witnessed by about twenty patrons in the front bar (main bar area) with the ‘card’
    machines and pool tables. I was playing pool (eight ball) and winning – looser pays to challenge
    the winner. After this constructed video assault, two men in their early twenties and built like
    brick shit-houses walked in from the rear of the hotel, with a woman dressed in lace, scantily clad
    of about 5 foot, 5 inches tall. She sat behind a card machine and began to gamble. The two
    brick shit-houses stood close to her, with looks on their faces saying “do not approach, or we
    will ‘adjust’ your approach”

    I continued playing pool and ignored the assault. It wasn’t the last time I would see these two
    brick shit-houses and the masquerading Madonna.

    Comment by Robert — October 9, 2011 @ 4:45 am

  1027. Destruction of the Targeted Individuals business –

    Early 1993 – It became an expensive problem, to the gang stalkers, to continue with their
    “hit & run” activities. My business was not stable, in the one place of employment and I
    travelled all over Sydney, doing quotations and installations, sometimes I would travel out
    of the area of Sydney. The perpetrators found it hard to keep up, with my constant and
    varied locations.

    A major source of my work was with a leading insurance company, whom referrals came
    in, from all area’s of Sydney. One referral was to a trap, a woman in her mid thirties, who
    had close ties to the entertainment industry, a scam was set up, whereby her house was
    ‘zapped’ during a thunder storm, there was no signs of a direct strike to her house. Her
    alarm system was so old that it couldn’t have worked, but it was claimed for, repair costs
    to her insurer – the NRMA.

    This woman was associated with the Enmore crowd, (“guppy”) as well as others in the
    entertainment industry – her brother – Ian Lees for example. Her on again/off again
    boyfriend – the guitarist that replaced Mick Cocks (Dec) in a band called the “Head-
    Hunters”. Her programmed task – to show an interest in me, personally and to generate
    a *need* for me to return, after my electronic security work, for the insurer, was
    completed.

    Catherine Patricia Lees would then surrender information to the police that had been
    Obtained *allegedly* from a recorded message, left on her answering machine. The
    Police were seeking an A.V.O (apprehended violence order) on this woman’s behalf.
    I was presented with the transcribed recorded message, in the courtroom, before the
    Magistrate – Wayne ‘Hollywood’ Evans, at Hornsby courthouse in March 1993 and
    asked if I had said such thing’s – I got as far as reading the transcript and answered
    “Yes – But”

    I was cut off by Evans who said – words to the effect of “Right, the evidence tendered
    is admitted to, by the respondent” What had been presented to the Police was a private
    conversation, to another party (family) about how women use the law for their own
    purposes and gains. This private conversation could have only been obtained through
    illegal surveillance, a wire tap on my phone or high quality audio surveillance of my
    premises. Such a conversation was not a directed verbal, to this woman’s answering
    machine. (Cut & Pasted, from one place to another)

    This did the trick, as far as the destruction of my highly regarded business as a Security
    Technician – the NRMA didn’t refer any more work to me (Loss adjuster – Bob Low)
    I didn’t have enough work to continue with my business operations, without these leads
    from this large insurer (including NRMA staff, that I had done work for) and the business
    was wound up in December of 1994. I had been battling to survive since this incident in
    March of 1993.

    What is further evident is the manipulation of the court room proceeding’s of this only
    date of appearance, in March 1993, as in a copy of the court room recorded transcript
    is the insertion of the Police Prosecutors voice claiming it was “Fourteen Four Ninety
    Three”. I was denied justice, on the day, as I tried to set a date, to contest the orders
    that were sought – by the police. The Magistrate – EVANS – “ I told you I would
    hear the matter today” There was no date, with the court on the 14/04/93. The inserted
    voice of the P.P. – Dave Chambers is a blatant, obvious corruption of the recording, the
    background noise isn’t the only give away.

    Who, besides corrupted authorities have the ability to interfere with courtroom audio
    recording’s ? An appointed barrister, then tried to obtain another copy of the court-
    room proceedings of this only date, as I had obtained the first copy, an application for the
    tape made soon after the date in March ’93. The barrister was told he couldn’t have
    one. It is interesting to note – That Oxley didn’t live very far from C.P. Lees, who used
    the name – Fincher – in her complaint, to the Police and Oxley lived virtually on top of
    Hornsby Police & Courthouse.

    Comment by Robert — October 11, 2011 @ 10:30 am

  1028. Punch & Judge Jewdy –

    A close friend of Madonna’s, well known to American soap opera’s – Judge Judy.
    This woman is not a Judge or Magistrate, just a lowly parasitic attorney by qualification.

    But what if their was some magistrate, that she could climb all over, in a distant ‘Back
    Water’ nation like ‘Australia’ for aiding performance *abilities* – Wayne “Hollywood”
    Evans, well he sure filled the spot. Arrogant, self righteous twat.

    Comment by Robert — October 11, 2011 @ 12:05 pm

  1029. Everything you do, everything you say, will be used against you in some way by the “gangstalking” devil trash.

    The paid informant “secret police” and corporate/others will control/blackmail, threaten, the failing democracy/has-been politicians/police that might have stopped the blatant, illegal activities that have gone on for so long.

    It appears that *You* were a threat to someone with the power to start this against you, as was I.

    And, my business was destroyed long ago by *these people,* if you want to call them “people.”

    I call them the trash that they are, the fascist scum that has risen to the top for now, but will surely fall when eyes are opened and truth, justice and morality prevail.

    These people *will* go down, it is just a matter of time.

    Comment by gaven — October 13, 2011 @ 3:54 am

  1030. HOW TO BRING THE PERPETRATOR CROWD DOWN
    OR -
    (Putting out the trash)

    Any perceived threat, that I may have been to these gang-stalking, freeloading
    fleas (parasites) was AFTER that point in which they exposed themselves, not
    only to me, but the authorities. For a state government to show complacency,
    in the crimes, that I was the targeted subject thereof – It shows up weakness in
    such a government – frightened, corrupt politicians.

    To go about setting up an individual, poisoning/drugging them and then to menace
    them with DEW’s, spread rumor’s and forcefully convince the Authorities that
    someone is mentally ill and a threat to others (or themselves) is how these trash
    operated on me, how the authorities ‘handled’ it revealed the corruption, serious
    flaws in the system that requires reform.

    If such diminishing respect, by the authorities, for those set up and character
    assassinated, i.e.- “their mad” by the entertainment industry’s, desperate operatives
    department continues, this will only lead to a reciprocal, virtual lack of respect for
    the authorities. Crime – why would you want it to grow out of control ?

    Cut these criminal operatives down, their gang stalking, rumor spreading,
    exploiting operations – cull them out of business. Why give them a chance to run,
    after they hit all over some *valuable* targeted individual ? I pray for hell on earth
    to these perpetrators, but the fatality list isn’t long enough…

    To enable the labeling – ‘mentally ill’ , by entertainment industry ‘game players’
    and then to be psychologically pack raped, by the entertainment industry’s gang
    stalking, ritual abusers – proves a need for reform and therefore more investigations,
    into this industry’s ‘occultist’ (hidden) operations. NO MORE PROTECTION
    RACKETS ! NO MORE SANCTIONED CRIME GAMES. NO MORE COVETED *TEST*
    of manufacturing *STARS* The entertainment industry is “testing” innocent people,
    with a view to exploit, not with a view to *DISCOVER*

    For those involved in this crime, at corporate levels and abusing the police and
    legal system as well, it reveals the desperation of their networking, that failed to
    meet expectations and get away with the crime. Normally when someone makes
    a complaint, about such foul play – it attracts the attention of the threatened, in
    other words if you set out to destroy a criminal operation, you will not only
    gain the attention of frightened criminals, but a frightened legal system, that also
    feels the threat, because they have breached human rights and therefore are not
    trustworthy in any form of government or the policing of that peoples laws.

    Evidence of corruption then became a need to uncover and expose, those party to
    the corporate crime and the political scumbag filth, that sanctioned such crimes
    against us. Hence why their economies are on death row. You need money to
    buy gang stalking weapons and with the destruction of untraceable ‘cash’
    economies, will come the destruction of drug economies and other illicit trade, that
    keeps such crimes *enabled* You may catch a perpetrator ‘In Full Flight’ but
    to catch the financial dept. is so much more difficult, with current economic
    systems, still in place.

    Their Cash Cows are my strategic targets. Without hidden (or non-existent)
    paper trails, then their crime games are virtually over. So are their un-traceable
    drug economies. Their buried wealth won’t be worth digging up, a redundant
    system of rotting meaningless values, that can no longer be tendered. = CRIME
    GAME OVER. The law is only there to protect those *WITH* , so destroy their
    Cash Cows.

    Comment by Robert — October 14, 2011 @ 6:31 am

  1031. Opening Comment by Gavin – Post No. 1030 -

    “Everything you do, everything you say, will be used against
    you in some way by the “gangstalking” devil trash”

    Reply -

    You can use this “phenomenon” to your advantage, as a victim. The perp’s will
    generally set out to acquire sensitive information, that they can use against you.

    What they may, indirectly, tender in a court of law, based on how it was acquired
    is how they can be *spun* into a convoluting trap, proving their methods were to
    set you up, as in entrapment, with a will to exploit you –

    example –

    2.5Ltrs of H2SO4 – 98%
    1Ltr of HNO3 – 68-70 %

    Ordered and purchased over the phone, the one that they were hacking. Your
    genuine reasons for this purchase, were for metal finishing (Aluminum Anodizing)

    “He’s building a bomb, he has the stuff to level a brick shit house”
    This directed at you, via DEW’s or STREET THEATRE or both – “Keep this hot,
    as required”

    When the pervert perpetrator crowd think they have enough to use against you, they
    tend to back off, their only interest in gathering such information is to silence you, also
    to provoke a response, when required in one of their staged themes. SCUM CRAFT,
    they call “Method Acting” a means of obtaining *spirit* they do not possess, to aid
    their *lack of* performance abilities. – Stealing the Heat -

    Next – a movie is released – Water as an explosive, starring – some dude that later
    Played 007… He is disarming a Bomb that has been placed under a woman’s car
    Seat, he asks the woman – “What is your dogs name” the woman replies –
    “Madonna” (1958 – Chinese year of the dodgy doggie)

    So make sure you record such incidents – you did this – and it freaked out the perp
    trash, later – a movie is made, about a bomb and the name Madonna is used in the
    staged skit. These scum will do ANYTHING to cash in on ANY angle of disturbance.

    The Desperate American Writers Guild = D.A.W.G

    Wayne “Hollywood” Evans the magistrate, used to prop up “Judge Jewdy” – I wonder
    what kind of shit *they* have got on Evans – That Jewdy number has been going for one
    hell of a ride on Evans…Or maybe he’s receiving “incentives” to remain an arsehole.

    He never could compete with that Manly Magistrate, Geoff Cleary, used, as the roll model
    for “Rafferty’s Rules” – A redundant Australian Soap Opera. – Which is where Evans got
    his nick name – “Hollywood” – the Drama Queen… From. He was Horribly Jealous of the
    attention that Cleary received, but couldn’t compete.

    Comment by Robert — October 14, 2011 @ 9:48 am

  1032. “They set me up, they set me up”

    No -

    You set them up, fuck, I would hate to fall from such heights…

    Comment by Robert — October 14, 2011 @ 10:13 am

  1033. We all have the ability to do some serious damage, to the system of perpetrators.
    Firstly let nothing remain hidden from their activities, as we will see common
    *scenarios* of their turpitude. Let us set aside any reservations of personal
    embarrassment, based on perpetrator activities and what *they* thought, they
    could use against us, as victims.

    Remember they are human beings, although their intent is evil, WE can undermine
    their perversion. Turning the tables on their ‘craft’ is exposing their practice –
    exposure of a vampire (parasitic perp’) to the light of a new day, tends to ruin their
    game. No Holds Barred, they don’t play fair – that is why they are evil – so why
    should we ? Show them the light, watch them get burnt – That’s Entertainment.

    Evil perpetrators need a place to run and a place to hide, what if they are deprived
    of safe harbour. What have we got on the perpetrators, their hidden (occultist)
    practices, their economies, their weapons, their stealth, their propaganda, etc.

    All the stuff that flushes them out, of their valley of darkness, to the waiting BBQ.
    You can bring the beers, hope you don’t mind the aroma of smoked & braised pork.
    We have other *meats* available for those, that wish to get together, for personal
    sacrificing of dead commodities…

    Comment by Robert — October 15, 2011 @ 10:04 am

  1034. The Menu –

    Entrées -

    Fishy Scams

    Shark Finished Soup

    Reptilian Delight, (Minced Meat Balls) – (tastes like chicken) with dipping
    sources – Choices – Chilli, Black Bean, Garlic, Sweet & Sour, Spicy Fried
    Ginger, Coriander & Cumin (curry)

    Mains –

    Stuffed King Snake, with sweet & sour source, served on a bed of rice

    Rat’s Rally – Grain Fed, Deep Fried, with garden fresh salad & chips

    Kangaroo Court, served as a roast, with baked vegetables

    Dog on the Bone, Ribs or Rump cuts with access to the
    Salad and Vegetable Bar.

    Deserts –

    Black Pudding, freshly obtained perpetrator blood, gluten free.

    THE BILL –

    It’s free for VICTIMS, but for perpetrators, there is a surcharge…

    Comment by Robert — October 15, 2011 @ 11:08 am

  1035. So we could really get the Sunday lunch happening, a venue, a restaurant with live
    perpetrator entertainment, a cage full of perpetrator white rats, grain fed (Coke Heads)
    freshly prepared, then in a tempura batter. Don’t forget the DAWG on the Bone (Des’
    American Writers Guild)

    OR –

    Rump cuts, all Kosher, of course – healthy, plentiful meat deposits, everywhere you
    go. Why waste ? We can recycle. Here piggy – all the way from the top of Masada
    and tenderized on the way down, just for you. Go on – lick it up, before it soaks in.

    Comment by Robert — October 15, 2011 @ 11:46 am

  1036. Ar, it is all full of connotations, without a con-note number, well, we can’t trace it !

    Comment by Robert — October 15, 2011 @ 12:17 pm

  1037. The destruction of BAAL, it’s easy – Baal is Judah’s Dog. The crimes that are processed by
    the legal sector are the crimes that keep Baal alive ! Destroy cash economies – no deals.

    Judah doesn’t need a pet.

    Comment by Robert — October 15, 2011 @ 12:25 pm

  1038. The destruction of BAAL, it’s easy – Baal is Judah’s Dog. The crimes that are processed by
    the legal sector are the crimes that keep Baal alive ! Destroy cash economies – no deals.

    Judah doesn’t need a pet.

    Central Monitoring. – how they are spending , what they stole, fuck junk food, any other spent
    cases ? Then why prop up this shit. Wow, it had an opening, so rich and so fucked up.

    So why bother, like, why didn’t you enjoy this life.

    Um,. someone else took it for a ride, to the core, ferro magnetics, molten state, sounds like
    hell…

    They seemed happy.

    A Trap for Perpetrators. So let’s see how you get out this one, all in it together, you know.

    False Flag Waving – so forget it.

    Procrastination – st, stop preaching to the converted.

    Comment by Robert — October 15, 2011 @ 1:16 pm

  1039. Reoccurring Events – Further Evidence, with
    Authority Participation, Audio& Video CAPTURED

    The purchase of acids back in 1993 didn’t finish with the Pierce Brosnan,
    “Live Wire” taunts, upon the movies video release, in 1993. Initially, this
    is all there was, what they made use of – “He’s got chemicals, to make a bomb”
    this was their ‘open wave’ DEW assault in 1993 and believed, they had something
    that they could manipulate and use against me.

    When the movie hit the local video shop, the DEW prompting to hire and watch it,
    via – subtle suggestions, being DEW assaults, illegal subliminal *advertising* via
    this method, is a privacy violation.

    BUT it did the job, I hired the movie and along comes the scene “what’s your dogs name”…. “Madonna” and my personal reaction to it.

    Madonna – LLC, scores a “hit” on me, from it, with the gang stalking, tax collecting pieces of shit, so appointed, to commit such privacy violations and assaults.

    I am going to destroy your LLC activities, you corporate criminal scum, *YOU* will
    be held accountable for damages, screw your limited liability bullshit and the “It’s not Us” lies (Warner hench woman, at the time, 1993 – Liz Rosenberg)

    How you made money, on these crimes, is how you will lose it. You set up innocent
    people and then strip them to the bone. Your perversion & manipulation of private lives will bring you down.

    No where to Run, No where to hide. Step one – EXPOSURE of the CRAFT, step two-
    Destroy it, step three – Submit a claim for damages and Rip you Apart, using Baal’s
    Fleas, a bigger variety than yours. Finding Big Fleas is a problem for me – ATM, so
    much corruption to ‘torch’ first.

    These sleaze, they feed on such skits, premeditated and controlled assaults, is how it is
    done and that should be clear enough, based on my previous writings. Deliberately, persecuting and tormenting an individual with the contempt of lies and rumours, the character assassination’s, the subliminal crimes, of DEW applications, all too clear
    to T.I’s of this demonic craft.

    Stitching skits into productions and then dumping them onto the suitable targeted individual, all premeditated and maintained, by design – gang stalking intimidation
    and DEW’s.

    Those party to this crime, are going to lose these avenues of gaining attention, to the product, they will never “try it on” , again, on anyone else – good bye to this ritual
    abuse, good bye to the satanic scum behind it – forever, good riddance to the
    scamming scum. May the will of the creator, help me.

    When visiting the local chemical supplier, that I had been to several times before, I
    was stalked their, by an individual that claimed to be from the National Institute of Dramatic Arts (NIDA) wanting to buy chemistry for “special effects”. She hadn’t
    placed an order and didn’t know what she wanted.

    I had phoned my order through, with the supplier, earlier in the day and I was told
    what time the order would be ready for collection. My phone was tapped/premises
    under surveillance and so they new what my movements were going to be –
    gang stalking made easy. She just had to sit back and wait, outside the supplier’s,
    for me to show up and then enter before me, stuffing around the sales staff and
    making me wait. Why ? sizing up the Targeted Individual, feeling them out,
    knowing what they look like – up close, etc.

    What they thought they had ‘suitably’ hyped up, to later attempt, to use against me,
    didn’t eventuate until Sep of 2000, when an American foreign national went on a
    programmed spree of falsifying complaints, about me, to the authorities. The real
    estate agent, of that address, where I was residing was letting rooms to individuals
    and didn’t ask for references of such applicants, their I.D. is easy to forge.
    .
    “Anyone” could rent a room on top of me, this included the steady flow of perpetrator
    scum of course. So who lined the pocket, of the real estate agent, to allow this ?
    Untraceable economies, ‘under the table’ cash deals, that part is easy too.

    The Olympic Games were on at this time, in Sydney and the NOISE CAMPAIGN of
    this American perpetrator was loud and clear, but not to me, all the way to the Authorities though, with the use of the law, for unlawful purposes, yet again. More
    harm to the T.I.

    The way the Police & Mental Health Crisis team handled the matter was disgusting, I didn’t stand a chance. The manipulative power, of these perpetrators and their stoking
    of the boiler, with this explosive bullshit, had been on the rolling boil for over 7 years.

    They thought it was time to try it out, no longer in Motion Picture Skits, now using
    the authorities. I was quite upset when I found out what this American had done, all
    over town to my credibility, why the Police went along with it, why the real estate
    agent was letting in these creeps, without I.D. checks, or references all added up to
    corruption, but who was calling the shots ‘from the top’ ? It doesn’t matter. It is how
    these concerted efforts, prove corporate crime and money making scams, are all that
    do matter.

    The only way I could protect myself, from these un-identifiable perpetrators was with
    my own surveillance, of their stalking activities and interference of my privacy. The
    cops and shrink were caught A/V on HiFi – VHS, they didn’t read the sign on the door
    “Continuous Electronic Surveillance” and didn’t ask what the black box on the back of
    my front door was doing – tough shit, a problem for them and no matter to me. Denied
    justice, far to long, to allow such issues to stand in the way of BUSTING these crimes
    WIDE OPEN.

    The perpetrators could be identified with the appropriate YouTube placements, as they were also A/V’ed. This is the ONLY way, that these criminal scum can be brought
    down, with no chance of the authorities doing the record’s stripping, with regards their part in it. Just like “No you can’t record the court room proceeding’s” – Why does this
    cramp your style ?, of your ability to interfere with the events, that really occurred in the court room ?

    But quite happy to allow the entertainment industry, gang stalking scum to make use of the events, the vicious character attacks of respondents/defendants, in the court, by the magistrates/judges, if they get credit for it and score brownie points in Hollywood. Comment – To Hell With You, Baal Fleas.

    Comment by Robert — October 16, 2011 @ 1:44 pm

  1040. The Entertainment Industry TEST

    The art of selling out, another human being, comes with a price tag. What if
    they object, that is, the targeted individual (T.I.) object to being head-hunted,
    by the pervert crowd that are intent on keeping their perversion alive and
    saleable ? The T.I. has been *Put Up* and gang stalked by the wind up scum,
    that get paid to maintain the ritual abuse patterning, i.e – non stop disturbance
    of the T.I.

    Who can they complain to ?

    The psychiatrists, psychologists, law enforcement or anyone else that benefits
    from organized crime and socio psychological disorder ? So a vicious circle of
    un-eventfulness, upon complaint, for the T.I’s. So what’s next, a Catholic Priest ?
    I think they made a movie called “the last exorcism” and like psychiatry the
    T.I. ends up dead, after long term suffering, at the hands of those offering a
    “Professional Service”

    So kick the shit out of the shrinks, with litigation, for what the church could no
    longer deal with and abandoned a half a century ago…The Possessive Types (Yes
    and Manipulative, etc, yet to be cautioned – you do this to them and we will do
    that to you – anyone for genocide ?)

    So what can the T.I’s do ? All that remains, when the perpetrator crowd will
    not back off and refuse to release the “imprisoned” innocent, targeted individual
    from what is clearly a valuable entity to the “poacher” crowd. Destroy their
    games, by increasing through turpitude, the number of complaints that are made,
    till the bubble bursts and no one questions the T.I. complaints anymore.

    The Targeted Individuals need to understand that the Gang Stalkers are not the
    Military, Aviation Pilots, Police, Deranged Psychiatrists, or any other character
    so assumed, by the perpetrators, as the Gang Stalking scum are like Method Actors
    working for the “In Your Face” real deal entertainers that are directly or indirectly
    taking your rights away and you for a ride. UNDERSTAND THIS point of view.

    If enough victims complain about the same ‘entertainer’ taking them for a ride -
    Good bye freeloading fuck…Turpitude = Method Acting (Don’t dump that
    Sequence on me, or anyone else you poaching shit)

    Indirect Example – your Neighbor gets a dog and names it TYSON, yells the name
    out constantly and then some American boxer gets Hollywood Gigs, so what do you
    do, about it ? – The dog owner yells out the name and you get terrible tinnitus attacks
    and headaches, you feel as if someone has jumped on you. You have been put up
    on a verbal noise campaign and set upon, some free loader is taking advantage
    of you. Why ? Because it fucking hurts, ignoring the verbal “trigger” doesn’t stop
    the pain. You are aware of the pain associated with the NAME dropping sequence,
    you were not aware of the boxer getting Hollywood placements.

    what can you do –

    (1) Kill the Dog.
    (2) Kill it’s Master.
    (3)EXPOSE THE ASSOCIATION and kill all of them with a single hit.

    NUMBER 3 is the correct answer. The dog owner has no rights to yell out that name,
    on your *TICKET* The dog owner, quit his job and became a professional gang stalking
    poacher. This poacher benefits from cash hand-outs, so an audit would be useless.

    The Demonic Satanists and Sadists of Ritual Abuse can’t remain that powerful
    when their “hidden” practices are being *torched* with napalm, as their craft
    only survives, due to it’s occultist (hidden) practices, like their illicit businesses,
    both can be exposed (burnt) and ANY practice suffering 3rd degree burns, doesn’t
    tend to survive.

    Comment by Robert — October 20, 2011 @ 1:22 pm

  1041. “You burn them and we will burn you” = Genocide.

    A Badbye for the perpetrators selling BULLSHIT, So when the last fish is caught, gutted, cleaned,
    de-scaled, smoked and eaten, what are you going to take for a ride, down red lane, Money ?

    Comment by Robert — October 20, 2011 @ 2:44 pm

  1042. The planet is round, we ARE IN THIS, together. What about the far – out junkies
    still selling escapism – to the unproven real estate. You know this. Next –

    What about deluding, on any avenue of unworkable fantasy – like wars as
    A lame example… So why don’t we all have the right to think clearly anymore…
    Shell Shock ? It’s all bad news – So why are we buying it ? Hypnotic Repetition ?

    Too much of an unsustainable commodity ? Those, with the loudest accounts tend
    To liquidate quickest, find a new game, this shit is really digging holes = corrosion
    In what ever you think your made of – corruption.

    Dead Heads –

    “They were nuked, – the gigaset Circle C”,

    “no it was the level per square
    Metre, those 10 Watt limits, well it exposed the trend for non-ionization radiation tests
    On the sub-conscience minds, still lacking an education”.

    Comment by Robert — October 20, 2011 @ 3:19 pm

  1043. Satellite based systems

    It should be clear that GPS tracking systems are a bi-directional technology. Where
    you are, how fast you are travelling, your pre-programmed destination and how to
    get there. Forget about implants, as they are a redundant technology, your SIM card
    in your mobile phone, replaced a need for ‘implants’ and it functions, as a tracking
    device, even when your phone is switched off. To disable the SIM card and it’s
    ability to relay your movements, via triangulation, you have to remove the battery
    from the cell phone.

    You may be of *special* interest, to someone, it doesn’t have to be the Authorities.

    The PARASITES of the entertainment industry may wish to keep tabs on your
    movements, to maintain their exploitation of you, that is – selling you out. We
    need to understand why companies like WARNER have dedicated Satellite channels
    and what they are used for, by these corporate PIGS, as well as any other private
    sector access to spy satellite technology, which is big business and thriving. Did
    you think that only Governments, of this world could “allow” spy satellites to be
    deployed ? Think Again, Big Brother is Organised Crime, Corporate Scum.

    Comment by Robert — October 22, 2011 @ 10:38 am

  1044. Corporate Schizophrenia -

    “We didn’t know what the left hand was doing” “We were just following orders, from
    the top, of the investor relations “We” have no liability, we just take the Bun…-Money
    and Run” ” Because “We” won’t be around then, so sue us”

    (Too late, all the money is on another gig, how convenient )

    Many Would Like to walk out of the trench of meaningless value – (the junky age)

    So What’s Your Poison ? (Alcoholic)

    You got anything else (Why, what have you got, strickly on account)
    we all did this,to each other, who’s counting the tab. (They Ignored It)

    O.K – there goes another false economy (They Buried It)

    So what else are we doing to each other folks, ahead of schedule ?

    (More Turps, turpitude required)

    Loose Lips, Sink Shit… – (well past it’s use by date)

    Comment by Robert — October 22, 2011 @ 1:14 pm

  1045. Gang Stalking, ain’t that a sinking shit.

    Comment by Robert — October 22, 2011 @ 1:41 pm

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    Comment by dupreturner@yahoo.com — October 23, 2011 @ 6:03 am

  1047. As far as, a directed assault, via directed energy weapons – DEW’s of the acoustic
    variety – Consider that there is more than one key, that opens the lock, splatter
    is deemed as the complaint of a schizophrenic, a random assortment of triggers
    that are deployed, on the locked mind, to open it. The perp’s will “hound” away
    at you, until they get a reaction, then they run away on the reactive component,
    which is your spirit. When they pin me down, against my will, they get carried out in
    body bags. *tickets* with all their sections ‘punched’ out. They then tend to avoid
    “that ride” again – due to low rider’s cramp.

    Once the perpetrators unlock that targeted mind, further sequences are deployed,
    maintaining the theft of ones privacy and intellectual property to aid & abet a
    *performance* – which is Method Acting, via illegal remote Surveillance and
    Harassment, Gang Stalking, by the desperate of the entertainment sector’s.

    Sect-or-Occultist’s practice? Tell them you want out, or you will burn their
    sequence, before it hits the screens and sound stage. RUIN THEM, they have
    nothing to offer you, they are scamming, criminal scumbags. Con-artists.
    They are violating your peace & privacy & ripping you off – So hurt them, when
    they will not let you go.

    Quite often, the perpetrators will attempt to dump splatter, with the effect of
    disturbing your train of thought and your memories, of what occurred, with the
    sequence that targeted you, that is, what they are making use of and exploiting.

    Ignore their splatter, remember the fluent story line. Write it down, on a blog
    space somewhere, refer to your association with it, then, after they release their
    product, based on such exploitation of you – How could you have vivid memories
    of an unreleased product ? You blogged it before any screening, you were their
    target. SO Why make these scum wealthy ?

    Sooner or later these thieving scum won’t be able to make use of anything that
    they have *acquired* to promote attention to their *products* because it was all
    gained at your expense and you were cheated out of your mind by it.

    D.A.W.G = Desperate American Writers Guild – OR – poaching scum ?

    Desperate Poaching Scum, it’s all overjew. Turn their tables onto them, crushed
    by the weight of their own debauchery, greed and selfishness.

    Comment by Robert — October 23, 2011 @ 10:22 am

  1048. So which book are we missing ? The Israelis have held the dead sea scrolls, as
    long as they have held Palestine, maybe longer, release dates , of who held the
    Parchments was only Seventy Years Ago. (The alleged *discovering*) It’s more
    than missing books…The jew’s are still editing…WOW – the design group !

    Comment by Robert — October 23, 2011 @ 10:54 am

  1049. More unsaleable craft ?

    Comment by Robert — October 23, 2011 @ 11:16 am

  1050. If one thinks about religion & psychological manipulation, from the cradle to
    the grave, seeking the reality behind it, what shows up is nothing more than
    fantasy and illusions. If one goes looking closely at entertainment, it’s
    occupation of the sense’s with Light, Sound and stimulations of feelings, it
    reveals more escapist illusions. The Entertainers Fan Club, like a religious
    sect or main stream ‘club’s’ membership is organised Gang Stalking. Some
    follow in the footsteps of their Gods, other’s follow in the misadventures of
    the ‘latest’ entertainment industry Dogs.

    When the Entertainer doesn’t have what it takes, to hold the Gang Stalking
    Crowd (the fan club) together, the search is on for an individual to *Target*
    and this is organised by those with something to gain from it, money of
    course. Various research has gone into how to link, without contact electrodes,
    two or more people together. One gets pinned down and exploited (the T.I.)
    the other gets up, in public performance space, selling out. The T.I. gets
    abused with Trauma Induction, V2K and Gang Stalking, pinned down to
    uneventfulness, of their own lives, while someone else goes for a ride, on a
    life, that is not theirs to manipulate & possess (Behavioural Modifications –
    Ritual Abuse)

    What an evil thing to do to another human being, what a hideous act,
    maintained by the Perpetrators and their fiscal incentives. What God wouldn’t
    strike down such evil ? Empowered to Expose, these crimes, for the benefit
    of mankind. Hiding behind a religious practice won’t save the perpetrators
    or their evil craft. Expose & Burn ritual abuses, upon this Earth, Gang Stalking
    is high on the list of ritual abuses. Free the T.I. – cut the freeloading entertainer
    down…” I looked into your eyes and my world fell apart” – Then it wasn’t your
    world in the first place…

    Comment by Robert — October 24, 2011 @ 2:22 pm

  1051. For Your World rot’s in the gold mine of ill gotten gains – Gang Stalking Trash !

    Pass me the Nitric & Hydrochloric Acids, in quantity, I have an idea, for their
    delusional world of FALSE economics. They will be FORCED out, from what
    they used to hide behind, now it is flushed down, into their sewer of deception, no
    longer will they have the power to perpetrate, the will of others, as their hiding
    place became quite transparent…before it was flushed down.

    Hey Sons & Daughters of Judah – I need the rest of the bible’s books. Screw
    your manipulation and editing of these requirements ! I am no longer tolerant
    of the smell of such deception, you have handed down, to the other Sons and
    Daughters of Creation, If the will of GOD is to burn the farce, then so be it.

    Scum that wish to play God (Dogs) will be the first, to be torched. Be very
    careful, as deception is also on the incendiary list. Try holding your love of
    gold, out of the equation, you self serving microbes, or try catching what you
    call *value* as it is reduced to dust and fed to the winds of reform.

    Comment by Robert — October 24, 2011 @ 3:38 pm

  1052. ” Why would you waste your time on their deceptive economies ? ”

    Because they are still there.

    ” Are they not doing a first class job, of ruining their own over-valued/under-valued BULLSHIT ?

    I can still smell it.

    Comment by Robert — October 24, 2011 @ 4:18 pm

  1053. Gang Stalking –

    In these dark days of those with, versus those without, those that wish to stay
    at the top of the “hit” list are always compromised, by those with a competitive
    death wish, so they can move on to the damnation list. The false economy of
    real estate, in a place, other than this earth looks highly attractive, to those so
    intent on selling God… are such EVIL DOGS.

    But what could they do if their methods of greed, stupidity and selfishness are
    being eroded away at ? Scapegoating – take the saleable intellectual property,
    profit from sales and dispose of the truth – preserve the lies. Turpitude. The
    victimisation of innocent human beings, via harassment to collect ‘valuable’
    insight into the human mind, most T.I’s find themselves living alone and can’t
    *call a friend* for the answers in the game park, that has been built around
    them – That is, the gang stalking *games*

    Laws are presently in place to protect perpetrators of such Gang Stalking Games –

    “No you can’t place the suspected perpetrators under Audio Visual Surveillance”

    “Then how is a T.I. going to collect evidence, admissible in a court of law, based
    on the Activities of suspected organised gang stalking scumbags ?” “Most of the
    methods, of this trash, are still not accepted as readily available technology and
    ritual abuse methodology”

    EDUCATION & EXPOSURE of such ‘occultist’ (hidden) evil, but don’t ask the
    Church to help, with the cause, as not unlike the ‘law’ their income is derived
    from the crimes. PARASITES.

    To END the games, Level out the playing field, so no one gets to cheat, because
    no one wants to play such games, on a levelled out playing field, as there is no
    one “To be Had” (Cheated out of their minds) In this day and age of informational
    exchange, the only obstruction is the inability of victims to relay their plight.

    Comment by Robert — November 2, 2011 @ 1:51 pm

  1054. “But your story…is bazaar” “Your mistreatment, is states evidence, you have a case
    against the system, of such ritual abuse, the corruption, the crimes, your mistreatment
    by psychiatry, pity you are an Anti-Semite”

    I am not an Anti – Semite, but I do have an intense dislike of Anti – Christs.

    Judah’s Sons and Daughters are the Anti-Christ, with a biased competitive edge
    Called – THEIR BELIEF.

    Such a belief in escapism is questionable, in a court of law –

    “You have a problem, in your mind and so *WE* are going to chemically mistreat your
    brain, BECAUSE, *WE* are the ‘AUTHORITY’ on these issues”

    So one belief (The Anti-Christs) versus the GoldMan-Less (The Christians)

    I am not intent on challenging their system, it is a losers game. To me that game
    is over. “It’s all over jew” So – Moving On. The Jews that made you sick, after they
    exploited you, are now selling you the cure for your ‘mind’ problem = highly suspicious
    gang stalking activities. Psychiatry is JEW craft – “Now you are going to forget about
    your exploitation, by our brothers & systems”

    Comment by Robert — November 2, 2011 @ 3:01 pm

  1055. I do not expect anything to come out about this the vile entrapment it is everywhere in London and very loud even in front of Mi5 secret services building, public transport from north to south London and access connections to this website are being blocked as well.

    The police are being fingered for the external entrapment as well the identity of the payroll master of the vile walthamstow villagers is unknown. A closed mind world of prison and secrets with no acknowledgement or disclosure a dictatorship closed walls at every attempt.
    This will kill freedom creative endeavour expression personal and public it goes no where a group with no freedom or life.

    Comment by Shanti Thomas — November 8, 2011 @ 12:16 am

  1056. Shanti,

    This system is corrupt, the corrupted feel safe in their cowardly numbers.
    They are part of the Creators ‘Ant Farm’, it’s a pity they don’t realize just
    how small and powerless they really are. They want to be ‘gods’ , on a
    scale of mass they are ant shit, Nano sized ants, therefore Femto ant shit.

    Imagine how much less important they become, when they are reduced,
    Further, to aid in their removal. Dilute their importance with tact.

    The “Church”

    The church so referred to, is none other than the church of Scientology, it has
    indicated it’s dislike of the Jew craft – psychiatry. This is one angle of wining
    votes away from the mainstream ‘Clubs’ of escapism.

    The ‘introductory’ galvanometer tests to evaluate sweat gland activity, upon
    questioning, helps this church to gather ‘sensitive’ information from the test
    victim.

    Extortion rackets come later, along with V2K harassment, not unlike the
    annexure of the Cabal craft of the Judaic system. Parasites. Money gouging
    Parasites. V2K harassment and of course – GANG STALKING – Fleas that
    relay responses of the harassment.

    Cohen studies the facial expressions of Autistic Children, based on word and
    picture responses, shown to the Autistic ‘Lab Rats’ that are causal to the facial
    activities. “You pull that face and we ‘know’ what your thinking about” –
    Turpitude. “Did you get a reaction” “then try something else, suggestive”

    Cohen is the first cousin of that boof head with the “g” string in Hollywood,
    who is also a Madonna Cabalist, Associate. These manipulative excrement
    are all in bed with each other.

    Religion ? No

    MONEY & MANIPULATION (power brokers) Now where is the Circuit
    Breaker ? There is no plug, their system is hard wired into the international
    power grid…

    Comment by Robert — November 8, 2011 @ 12:20 pm

  1057. So what can we do about it ? Exposure of their hidden craft, even in their mighty cowardly numbers,
    they are still reliant on their secrets. Blow away their practices, by exposure of their ‘guarded’ methods.
    Example – The Pyramids were constructed from below ground and upwards, right ? Then the method
    of removal is not climbing down, into the foundations and destabilizing the same, as there is too much
    pressure from above.

    Take this crime game apart from the top down, start with the investors that are looking for returns, when
    they are exposed, as those that benefit from the proceeds of crime, publicly, well they tend to “remove”
    themselves. “But we didn’t know” – YES you did, we told you so. – Low Jack the parasites economic
    “re-investments” Prevent monetary ‘laundering’. Put a stain on the ‘Dogs’ bark (cash deals) Make
    every cent traceable. Then we all see their systems (organised crime) and ‘remove’ it from acceptable
    practices. Example – “I’m a psychiatrist, we need human guinea pigs, for Pig Pharma Research – that’s
    where the money is” – The Junky Age.

    Continue to expose their hidden practices, until there is little ‘invested’ interest left… Game Over 101.
    Bad Investments. Evil practices. The simple morality code, it requires more people to come forward
    with their personal stories of how they were set up and exploited – names, dates, what they ‘thought’
    they had to gain from organised crime. They have nothing on the victims, compared to what the victims
    have on their consorting organised crimes. They have no where to run – the planet is round and we
    need a method of tracking their financial path, to eliminate the ‘protection’ rackets. There assets were
    obtained via deception and therefore crime – they lose EVERYTHING, so do their corrupt legal fleas,
    all the way to the top – their religions and “other” fictional romances, such as over & under rated
    economies.

    “I have a dream” -

    I don’t, I have a damning methodology – burn the satanic scum, starting with their hidden agenda’s.
    We don’t need a fuel source, we need more names, dates, practices and information on who gained
    (and what) from it. EXPOSURE, a trade secret, a ‘business’ practice – Oh, perversion into private
    Lives – The News of the World – “Oh, everyone is in on it” – She has been locked up to preserve
    the status quo… REALLY ?

    Comment by Robert — November 9, 2011 @ 12:02 pm

  1058. Great website. A lot of useful information here. I?m sending it to a few pals ans additionally sharing in delicious. And of course, thank you to your sweat!

    Comment by demotivator — November 10, 2011 @ 7:18 am

  1059. A website ?

    Some might say, the guts of a really good book, but needs editing ! It’s not a Website, as
    such, but a place where victims and their adversaries can blog on issues of what is good, what is
    condemnable, it isn’t a fine line between human rights and debauchery. Most people, that have
    been abused by the programs of ritual abuse need to further understand WHY. Who makes the
    money, who provides the protection rackets and why governments and their police turn a blind
    eye, to the complainants, only to be further abused by the misguided, misinformed system paper
    lice with their Qualifications to play God, with a tortured soul.

    There are many more tortured souls, that have died, for all the wrong reasons and the ‘opinions’
    of the self serving parasites, that have never been challenged, for their wrongful ‘diagnosis’.

    If Psychiatry was seriously challenged, by the misdiagnosed, the medical profession would
    quickly disown them, to try and save face. Unchallenged, then these parasites tend to grow in
    their cowardly numbers, feeling like ‘Gods’ and un-inhibited, in their inappropriate practices.
    The “Baal” calls for psychiatric evaluations, paid for by Public Finances, the causal effect into
    criminal misadventures is not of interest, to either party – prosecution OR defence.

    They are not interested in crime prevention, as there is nothing in it for them. “Make them Sick”
    – to sell them a cure, “Make them commit a criminal offence” and profiteer from the ‘supply’ of
    defence. Screw such PROGRAMS, in place, for the benefit of PARASITES. These systems
    are not worth the investment of human resources, as we are all better off with the passages of
    prevention. To be aware of what is to come, to know the difference between right and wrong
    and do all the dogs out of a ‘show’ – that’s the way to go !

    To be prepared to fight the farce and put the dogs on their arse. EXPOSE their evil turpitude, it’s
    a losers game. This is how and why they molested your thoughts, control freaks…now learn how
    to burn them, they have nothing to offer you, they are selling delusion and deception, their intent is
    to stay on top, at your expense, they manufacture the ‘fear’ factor, just to pin you down and play
    with you, in a exploitive way, they have no respect for you or your privacy, your life, to them is
    expendable, consequential losses and never at their expense, always at a cost to you.

    “Psychiatry – The art of lies” – the truth would ruin their ‘placement’ under the ‘cash cows’ as
    Psychosis prevention would be significantly cheaper…like crime prevention, whereby the crims,
    that succeed in organised crime, have never had their ‘mindset’ subject to a channel change.

    It is unfortunate that the ‘channel changing’ technology is used, predominantly, by the organised
    crime syndicates, that is – the shit with. Freedom of thought places selfishness, stupidity and
    greed under duress and pressure, so they like to play “God” with the opinion of others, that is
    until their hidden crimes and practices are EXPOSED…and burnt forever more. (to hell with
    them) In this, the age of information, soon they won’t be able to sell delusion and deception, seen
    for what it is, a losers game. It can only stay this way, to the benefit of the perpetrators, if their craft
    remains hidden from common understandings, IOW, it can be undermined by the passage of an
    education, the truth about how victims were ritually abused and who made money out of it. Kill off
    the ‘cash cows’ – corporate criminals and payola.

    Crime tends to rely on cash economies, untraceable commodities – burn them. Think about the
    shit with, having to explain how they acquired, not being able to ‘convert’ it, what they stole, they
    will never get to ‘spend’ the proceeds of organised criminal practices. “Hey, a suspected gang
    stalking perpetrator” O.K. do a discrete ‘audit’ on the suspected creep, clean it out, if proven
    guilty and retard the incentives, by example of those that wished to take it’s place in such crimes.

    Serious damage to shit, on the take, with nothing to offer = crime prevention.

    Comment by Robert — November 10, 2011 @ 9:24 am

    • Brillant…

      Comment by nomad — November 11, 2011 @ 6:02 am

      • brilliant , Forgot my I, sorry. :)

        Comment by nomad — November 11, 2011 @ 6:07 am

      • And I forgot, thanks for shutting down/up the “Aaron Agassi ” persona.

        Peace to you Robert, don’t give up, ever.

        Comment by nomad — November 11, 2011 @ 6:13 am

      • Hey Nomad -

        Brilliant, could be misspelled as “brisance” the ability to blow away unhealthy false god
        Worship with Velocity & Pressure…

        The Aaron Agassi ‘persona’ –

        When I hear the name Agassi, I think of the king David hotel, in, what used to be Palestine.
        An ongoing operation of false flag operations, by Russian and Polish Jews, the destruction
        Of the British presence, in Palestine, also known as the British Mandate to defend the
        *TRUE* ownership of the area. Nomads that will steal and take, lie and cheat, kill and
        maim, the lives of innocent human beings, just to have a “back water area” (a country)
        they can call ‘theirs’ = JEW SCUM.

        These Jew Pigs obtained 1,000 thermionic ‘triggers’, by deception from the USA and only
        Returned 800, upon demand. These high Voltage switches are used for the simultaneous
        Detonation, of the charges (HMX) that initiate the pressure, placed equally on the critical
        Mass – The Atomic Bomb. They have no use, in industry, elsewhere. Why were these
        Terrorists allowed to make 200 f…ing bombs ?

        – DIMONA is the targeted site of “Device” recovery, I would like to do, what I HAVE to,
        upon this Earth, peacefully, but there is some serious shit in the way – Israel is still at the top
        of the list, for Armageddon but it hasn’t established the critical surface area of 6 x 1 cubits,
        that is 600 x 100 miles. So what were the 1968 borders like ? Israel is a serious game
        park…Brisance Experiments.

        Comment by Robert — November 11, 2011 @ 9:32 am

  1060. False Gods, False Values

    An Olympic swimming pool, full of fools gold, no it’s real gold, but manipulated by fools. It
    has value, not in JEWellery for the ‘natives’ to wear as a measure of power.
    The Egyptian vaults have already been cleaned out… “Diamonds” are a girl’s best friend
    -Bullshit- imbedded carbon cutting compound, that’s all. Fuck Artificial ‘VALUES’

    GOLD -
    It only represents its potential alloying qualities, for the purpose of longevity, products of
    industry that are not subject to the planned failure and obsolescence of current junky age
    mentality – like RE-SALES. Do it once ? then why do it again ? why give gold an artificial
    value, when there is SO much of the shit ? It doesn’t rot (except in bank vaults) and is
    easily recovered from products, who’s useful lives have expired. Dental Gold Alloys, I
    mean, well, they can’t take it with them, can they ? Recycling of human waste – Ar, yes
    a smaller scale process, of what was done to their Pharaoh’s – they dug it up (Gold)
    twice – what a waste of living human resources.

    Black gold (crude oil) keeps land fill commodities circulating – out of this hole and into
    this one. Move it once, then why move it again ? – Talk of Product Longevity and the
    economists scream blue murder – product longevity undermines planned failure and
    re-sales, such evil practices, so screw their ‘economies’ – they’re parasites.

    Get a job at home, screw their real estate, it’s over rated values, because the ‘boss’ man
    wanted to look at your legs, a yard above your knees ! He can see what he needs to, via
    webcam. He can pay more, for any ‘wanted’ other views. What did you want to be ? –
    office air-conditioning ? The Personal Secretary ?…False Security ? (for the shit with)

    I.E. – why do I need to travel to the office, and catch a disease on Fossil Fuel public
    transport (disease delivery) systems ? I CAN do this all, from right here, at home –
    any time I like, fuck 9 to 5 regimented assaults. “Yeah, I perform better from midnight
    to 6am, before the ‘slow’ hit the lack of infrastructure and frivolous transport systems.

    What of an economy that is tied to such organised crime, deprivation of a means to live
    out ones life in peace & harmony ? They stole what was ours, then tied it up in false
    values. Where is the plug, of this Olympic swimming pool filled with ‘their’ measure of
    economy ? Their deliberate disregard for human life, their worship of the machine that
    maintains their DEBAUCHERY, at our expense. To show scant regard for their plans
    of planned failure, planned demise and at our expense, they shall have no place in the
    heavens, life is short – the thieving rich are toasted, on this side, badly burnt on the other.

    Gang Stalking is a tool of those with, intent on maintaining the exploitation of those without.
    They take, with-hold as say bad luck to anyone who complains, so destroy their so called
    economy – find the plug and destroy their measure of power and importance, at the
    expense of what is clearly a crime. Expense to a crime, creates a further disincentive to
    criminal practices. Make it prohibitively expensive, flush their false hopes, false beliefs
    and their false ‘gods’ into a ‘recycling’ mode of recovery. To Educate, with what is no
    longer, an advantage to their debauchery, is to WIN the losers game, that is – game over

    Comment by Robert — November 10, 2011 @ 12:11 pm

    • Robert,

      I am not jewish, if that *is* what you imply. When one becomes a “Gangstalking” victim they are a “nomad” in their own surroundings, thus the handle “nomad,” that’s all.

      Comment by nomad — November 14, 2011 @ 3:33 am

      • No, I wasn’t implying that you were Jewish, I used the term, within the context to
        describe, what the Jewish are – “A bunch of Nomadic People” that have no place they
        can truly call their own, the theft of a part of Palestine and the establishment of
        Israel. Your user name is just coincidence, that I mentioned the word ‘Nomad’
        and your right, gang stalking victims are NOtMAD !

        Comment by Robert — November 17, 2011 @ 5:13 am

  1061. Once a Jew,
    (I thought was my friend) said to me –

    “This so called perversion into to your privacy, your very thoughts” – “It’s all bullshit, Do
    you know how much it would cost, to set someone up like this” I replied – Yes, but
    clearly they have an avenue of recovering, the principal and gains, from such an
    investment and set up of an innocent.

    The response – “It would cost millions of dollars and quite frankly, you are
    not worth that much, did you think you were someone special ?”

    These criminal systems have been in place for a long time, maintenance costs are as
    cheap as the *real* values of drug economies, that is – they have no real value, but
    there will always be some junkies, that think operating and maintaining such a scam,
    against another human being is good value, so the running costs are minimal.

    Junkies don’t tend to talk about how they get *paid off* to participate in organized
    crimes, of this nature, Do They ? Why would they destroy their own meal ticket.

    I have noticed that the Jews seem to be the most offensive, with regards to defending
    this crime. Even when hard evidence is presented, they continue to push their ‘superior’
    knowledge and it is always an attempt to de-bunk, what these scamming scum are
    privy to.

    When they concede defeat, because they can no longer push their bullshit, at the victim
    they run away, yelping like wounded dogs. You will hear comments like – “Well what
    was in it for me”

    This is what’s in it for you – Burn you lying, cheating, scamming satanic arse-licker !
    Your games upon this Earth are over, so move on, as there is nothing here, for you,
    or your Evil kind. I had known this Jew for 30 years, he turned out to be a gang stalking
    Perpetrator, selling me out, to his Jew associates. His so called “regular” job was a cover
    and his income was derived from gang stalking operations and my exploitation.

    Comment by Robert — November 11, 2011 @ 7:45 am

  1062. Gross violence by the Gang Stalking neighbours K. Green+ A.Abadayo Mapp in his car waltzing out in front of me as if nothing is going on after also being tracked Audio vocal cover by the perverts of gang stalkers entrapped and openly abused every step of a walk into Walthamstow to and in Hoe Street in my bank back home with vile corrupt councillor sweden saying they he will never give in theyve got away with it. This was whilst ordinary people on the street were were signalling making observations about the criminal abuse commentary .

    The public want the gang stalkers The Walthamstow Central councillors public sector officials others the neighbourhood narks and network that wont stop own it all- To do community service to clean the streets clean public toilets with their names written visibly on their clothing as we all pay council income taxes but are being grossly Abused by an UK Councils public sector private citizens.

    But the actual vile experience is actually abusive I could talk out loud its so repulsive and establishing trying disorientation as if a invitation to respond out loud its criminal 24/7 evil….
    The Paradox of Organised Gang Stalkers
    A group that operate an evil lying position all the time and military format daily schedule of avoidance no formal ownership the central path Truth Honesty..always in some lying manic paradoxical position criminal surveillance+corruption in two places always surveillance in neighbour’s houses next door either side etc in this street and nasty link network public sector officials
    n.1 EXPENSIVE Surveillance Dangerous technology in their homes
    n.2 all focused on vocal ugly cctv aimed at damaging me with 24/7 commentary
    ———-
    Paradoxical narrative personally abuse confidential data racket going on
    The confused n.1 left foot
    n.2 right foot
    ————
    Now the other steady lying position
    Paradox of the cunning scheming want to pretend on the street and slipped into their commentary that head narks spies… Don Mapp Kevin Weston Katherine Green Adrian Abadayo are innocent or totally changed blackmailed and the do their lying face out on the streets then the the council layabouts Barnett Bean Sweden etc and the shrink Oakley take it turns manic dialogue at every step in my home…imagine to be forced to look at people whom have not only violently sexually abused by a group nationally and in Portugal you and with all this violence horrendous continuous poison psychological physical slander libel and criminal corruption and then be forced to listen to their shit daily for bloody years.
    ——————-
    The biggest Paradox the actual paradox
    And the obvious offensive affront criminally brutal they never do the straight path of ownership accountability
    ———–
    The residents of this borough will storm the town hall etc if this is whole situation isnt properly forced out immediately fully technical investigation by Scotland Yard would be appropriate and Stop Them completely and this horrifying technology for our good the public.
    ————————————————————————————————————————————————————————–
    NB.By the way a television company are planning to make a series about Surveillance including Gang Stalking and in the UK
    A big opening hope its very soon public awareness the law governments need to get up to speed on technology and gang stalking.

    Comment by Shanti Thomas — November 12, 2011 @ 1:39 pm

  1063. Sunday 13th November 2011 – The Sinister Abstract Reality of a group of Organised Gang Stalkers of Walthamstow Village that think perversely “That the Truth will out” is what they’re doing by openly confessing to organised criminally abusing, the corruption of councilors public sector and the technology of vast malicious entrapment even British Public Transport systems/ tele-communications cyber-stalking nationally
    And
    THE Major Reality Crash Paradox they do not produce the written declaration of stopping a campaign of violation of the public and rights and full documentations
    the written evidence
    …………………………..?
    The Labour Party doesn’t regulate its members Unions neither Public Sector neither Private/Commercial companies neither UK Citizens Individuals neither cannot desist restrain themselves resist

    and write to one woman and finish the full confession with all background details that are required by law?
    even my family and grandchildren 11 months old that have been abused by people whom live next door in Walthamstow Village invoking Racism and hideous technology actual threats their homes hacked into
    Security personal professional lives and nationally
    human life
    Hacking life people in concerted campaign
    past present and future
    to spread this gang stalking harassment like a plague in UK?
    ITS REQUIRED BY LAW
    Accountability
    …………………..

    Comment by Shanti Thomas — November 13, 2011 @ 1:06 pm

  1064. Bingo (a game)

    “Accountability” is the winner, we know that the essence of gang stalking activities must
    revolve around the “almighty” buck, but who is doing the auditing, of the auditors ? Why
    are human resources so wasted, on the innocent ? Is the gold really worth that much, when
    it is only played with, by banks and never utilized, to it’s full capability to support longevity
    of the human race, instead of, – it is being used to support human waste (the banking systems)

    The easiest way to undermine the gang stalking games is to expose those that have benefited
    from such organized crime functioning. Delusion, Escapism, Illusion, Planned obsolescence,
    but just to name a few, of the crimes upon this Earth, that rely on ‘perversion’ into private
    thoughts… “They know where I am Going” – No They Don’t , they won’t get there, as
    it is not for sale ! – Religions – just another wasted economy.

    Comment by Robert — November 14, 2011 @ 9:32 am

  1065. Culling time, short and sweet, keep it squeaky clean… enough dirt on organised gang stalking crimes ?

    Comment by Robert — November 14, 2011 @ 10:01 am

  1066. I wish people wouldn’t single out Jews as behind this. I am sure it is everyone and anyone who is both victim and perpetrator. It s a crazy scam. They turn you world into a movie set and see if it makes you upset. I think it is advanced bullying and ostracism. It starts in the schools, where it is encouraged and maybe even promoted. From there it just grows into adulthood where people in fact have even more nerve to hurt and harrass others.

    You can not stoop to their level and see where that gets you. They won’t stop until you are dead. It is because you are on a higher level that they hate you in the first place. If not, they would just come out and say what their problem is with you. Instead, they are too scared, so they chip away at you any way they can.

    I say don’t play into their games. If you can, fight back. Someimes it gets dangersou and you may risk being hurt, so consider your moves carefully. Ignore what you can and maybe strike back when safe. Try to avoid any interaction with them. Your own self discipline is what will save you.

    Comment by Barbara — November 14, 2011 @ 11:16 am

  1067. Barbara

    I have pasted comments to simplify what is being done to victims of this
    ORGANISED CRIME. Have you read ANYTHING of what I had to say?

    ————————

    It is not a question of “Jew” bashing syndrome, as I have presented GOOD
    evidence of their involvement, inclusive of the protection rackets started by
    Jews – like psychiatry for example. So you don’t think RELIGIOUS escapist
    ‘values’ are a crime upon this earth ?

    They are OFFENSIVE, Bullshit Protection Rackets, cowards in their numbers,
    numbers no matter how big or small, they are thug Scum, With GUNS & BOMBS,
    chasing an unworkable (and expensive) dream.

    IT IS NEVER at their expense –

    Jew Proverb – “You don’t need money, to make money” = PARASITES, Liars
    Thieves and Cheats. What happens if you strip a Jew of Money & Manipulation
    Advantages ? Answer = Dead Jew (Suicides – Masada “Top of the Hill Crowd”
    As a Historical Reference)

    If one can expose what made victims ‘sick’, not in accordance with DSM
    (Jew Drivel) then wouldn’t illness prevention be a better deal ? Like the
    prevention of crime, such ideology is a ‘threat’ to those that exploit others,
    disadvantaged by these EVIL poachers.

    “God made me do it” – NO you were manipulated by False Flag waving
    opportunists and their misguided fools – Gang Stalking Idiots.

    Instead, victims of this crime are deceived, lied to and cheated, out of any
    Understanding, into what has REALLY happened to them.

    So in accordance with the Diagnostics Statistics Manual (DSM) – “It was
    all in YOUR mind” – BULLSHIT, nice try, bad luck, now FUCK OFF –
    no more human guinea pigs for pig pharma experimentations.

    Equals – Bye Bye Junky Age of non contributing human effluent that wish to live
    at the expense of innocents, that have been bull-shitted and cheated, from multiple
    JEW CRAFT angles. IT is NOT a CHRISTIAN practice, but EVIL hides out
    behind the false front of RELIGIONS.

    Entertainment, Regards cinematography was HEAVILY invested in by JEWS
    Warner Brothers, Universal, Paramount and the rest of these “corporate” entities
    were all Jewish, by foundation – they still are, very much in “control” of the
    “escapist” industrial disease.

    This type of psychological perversion and manipulation of the human mind is
    Jew Craft, anything else is ‘trying’ to be competitive, with little chance of necessary reform. “So don’t buy into it” those that avoid the control group are stalked, exploited and condemned to misery, upon complaint.

    So how does one avoid what they despise? Those that are on the take continue
    to take, complaints are ignored and if a victim pushes the point, of their exploitation
    they are further abused and mistreated by the Jew craft of psychiatry. Where the
    almighty buck is found, so is contempt. Politicians are not about to ‘Reform’ this
    situation, as their pay-packets are lined by the taxable revenue raking, system crimes –

    “But we are all in it together” – Some are looking for an exit path, which can be found,
    the only way possible – systematic destruction of organised crime, through the exposure
    of evil practices, their protection systems and the “We don’t care, majority ‘ignorance’
    crowd” that have not been SCAMMED, can be taught a valuable lesson in crime prevention.

    Comment by Robert — November 15, 2011 @ 9:01 am

  1068. “I ain’t buying into to any of this”

    Comments –

    Good for you, why encourage it.

    AND (of course)

    So what are you selling, another wasted economy?

    Comment by Robert — November 15, 2011 @ 9:44 am

  1069. So, it’s one two three, what are we fighting for, don’t ask me I don’t give a damn, next stop is Vietnam.

    Keep chomping on your own demons, they will slay you.

    Comment by namvet — November 16, 2011 @ 5:21 am

  1070. Demonic & Satanic Ritual Abuse.

    Demons in the closet ? Open the closet door and place some burning incense
    (Jasmine) inside, close the door. Lie down on your bed, close your eyes and
    watch ‘exit’ time. The demons will immerge, coughing up blood, do a short
    distance ‘OBE’ and declare world war three, on the filth, cast them into a new
    day of hostilities, against their Evil presence and keep burning the jasmine, to
    maintain an uncomfortable and hostile ‘dark place’ – they weren’t pay the rent
    for, the thieving farce.

    1 – Smoke them out.
    2 – Burn their presence.
    3 – Warning signage on the ‘Closet’ as a deterrent –

    – NO TRESPASSING –

    “Squatters, Spooks & Stalkers will be Shot,
    Survivors will be Shot again”

    Comment by Robert — November 16, 2011 @ 10:18 am

  1071. Did you grow up next to a Jew Household ?

    Were they ‘Cohen’s’ – Jew ‘Hookers’ (the Fisher’s of Men)

    Schizophrenia, thought reception AND thought broadcasting, another important part
    of the ‘success’ of the JEW CRAFT. “Oh, he is receptive to my thoughts, we will
    have to ‘oppress’ this one” So what did that button do Jew ?

    Anyone that complains about “the voices, in their heads” is suppressed from further
    explanation, by Jew Authority (Psychiatry) to preserve the status quo. We had a right
    of complaint, about being abused, like this. We are not transceivers for psychological
    manipulation, by Jews, who only care for Jews and at everyone else’s expense. “Anti
    Christian Activities” Hey – what happened to “Anti Semite Activities” ? O.K. where
    is the game park ? (In the Dark – Occult, Hidden)

    Every Jew I have every met, is a transponder for thought processing, to THEIR gains.
    They Take, Cheat, Lie and Deceive ANYONE they can exploit, always for THEIR
    Agenda, Always at your expense. Anyone who starts the passage of whistle blowing,
    on their manipulative and exploitive ‘edge’ gets the treatment – Gang Banged and
    …you guested it – gang stalked.

    Psychiatry – The art of playing the devils advocate, more lies and deceit. OR, if you
    like – Jew preservation practices, recognised as an ‘authority’…Who would be more
    accomplished ? The Target, or the Primer & Base Charge in your ear ? (Try not to
    disturb the Primer, as it has a domino effect disorder, leading to shell – sales, shock)

    On self preservation (but not mine..d) of the number one Jewish practice –
    Psychological Manipulation via Schizophrenia – Broadcast & Response Recoveries.
    These are the highly saleable ‘reactionary’ responses, marketed by the (Pre) dominantly
    Jew Craft – called ‘entertainment’ (Wax heads looking for a ‘WAVE’)

    I sat behind the steering wheel, of my motor vehicle, taking the 30 year Jewish friend
    (fiend) to the railway station and was ‘highly’ receptive to his ‘discrete’ Broadcast to
    his Jew buddies in the entertainment industry. I couldn’t hear the interrogation, in his
    head space, only his responses, to them. My ability to ‘hear’ the long distance ‘hits’
    have been swamped, by the local leach squad – gang stalkers (suicides)

    He was NEVER my friend, I regret his association with me, another wasted Jew
    parasite, living under a slab…in the bone yard – natural causes, like many of his
    Jew ‘Buddies’, that were also party to the ‘take’ (exploitation)

    Why can’t these shit ‘get a life’ worth living for, without parasitically feeding on the
    life of another human being, I mean – have they no soul ? So stop selling out, the
    spirit of another human being, unless you wish to preserve your death wish.

    Life is short, Dang is forever more.

    Comment by Robert — November 16, 2011 @ 1:28 pm

  1072. Yes! We are Jews from outer space, with the power to assimilate! Resistance is futile! Seriously: I’d love to show you up by putting you in a controlled experiment to differentiate Jews from Gentiles, just by sitting nearby. Of course you’d fail, your score would be totally random. But you are a big crazy liar, Robert, unwilling to own your own feelings, so you’d only make more transparent excuses and angry bluster, you silly asshole bigot perp Nazi flamer! Go f–k yourself.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — November 16, 2011 @ 5:00 pm

  1073. Aaron Agassi,

    Why don’t you go hang out with Sarah Agassi under a slab, in the bone yard.
    You have no defence, you are a Jew perpetrator, your attempts to preserve the
    Jewish system of exploitation, terrorism, lying, cheating, stealing and the
    schizophrenic system of manipulation are useless.

    What will you do when the human race disowns you and your false flag operations
    (like 911) you dogs of war ? Why don’t you go, prepare a black hole and disappear
    down it.

    I no longer have to smell a Jew, putting me to the test, controlled or otherwise.
    Now I can feel them, from a distance (a cold chill on the back of my neck)
    Then, the ringing in the ears, starts.

    So defence, with an automated exorcising program to remove such spook presence.
    Clearly they ignore the warning signage, but not the incense that smoked them out.
    Do you like Jasmine, Aaron ?

    I may have to return to the Church stuff, made by the Benedictine Monks.
    It would be wasted on the likes of you, wouldn’t it, you non-contributing
    Squatter ?

    Comment by Robert — November 17, 2011 @ 12:45 am

  1074. Damned in your own words, better than I ever could!

    PS. Along with most other participants in Occupy Tel Aviv, I fully support the Jasmine Revolution, if that was your allusion. Otherwise, it went right over mt head.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — November 17, 2011 @ 11:23 am

  1075. Do you know what kind of resentment exists, in the mind of a Victim of Gang Stalking
    and Directed Energy Weapons Assaults ? When a victim realizes and pieces together,
    the information of who is party to it, how the perp’s defend themselves, in their cowardly
    numbers and HIDE behind a religion, how, what a victim thought was a friend is a
    hostile and jealous piece of human waste, that runs away, never to concede or make
    any admissions of knowledge, regards the victim’s exploitation and mistreatment.
    This piece of human waste was party to the scam all along, from 1981.

    The perpetrators do more damage, than continue to belittle those they have Lied To,
    Cheated, Exploited, Slandered, Back Stabbed, Poisoned with Pharmaceuticals –
    causal to memory loss, courtesy of psychiatry, to preserve the perpetrator’s systems,
    of Organised Crimes dealt out repetitively, upon the victim.

    The Perpetrators then go about promoting undesirable attention, to the victim of their
    exploitation and in come the gang stalking scum, wondering what’s in it for them…
    Damnation that’s what. In their cowardly numbers they feel ‘powerful’ but are all
    divided by one – their victim, who despises the air they breath.

    When the perpetrators are CORNERED, they don’t give up, they continue bullshitting
    and slowly kill themselves instead. This is the only justice a victim ever experiences.
    So death and destruction is the only justice the victims see. This is not reform, it is one
    game ends, then starts again. Crime prevention is missing from the justice system, that
    is EVIL. A victim looks at the legal & political arena, only to see more parasites.
    “What’s in it for us” a pay reduction, due to destruction of taxable organised crimes.

    The Victim is chemically “brain washed” “To forget who was ON their Minds” –
    Trespassing Scum. Sooner or Later the chemical blanket ceases to effectively work,
    then the brain is in receipt of spiritual and mindful matters, once again.

    “He will need to remain on medication for the rest of his life” Why ? so he can’t
    remember who was jumping all over him. Comment – FUCK YOU, I refuse to be
    pinned down and ripped off, you set out to deny me justice, GO TO HELL & Stay
    There. (a message for the corrupted ‘noses’ of psychiatry)

    Then, with recovered memories, of misadventures, after the Oxley – Poisoning episode
    of 1992, only to find other perpetrators on a come back, the same year, 1992 –
    Madonna LLC, with an agenda of hitting out at me.

    This being many years later, with reference to 1985, to do it all over again and the victim,
    having been Falsely, but historically labelled by wrongful and deliberate misdiagnosis, is
    continued to be denied any justice OR investigations, into this ongoing crime, while the
    stinking, Evil criminal scumbags continue to live, in denial of having any part in on it.
    Where did you get your power’s of performance from ? Who did you pin down and
    fuck over ?

    Siting on stolen wealth they will never get to enjoy or spend. They acquired their wealth,
    in the first place, at the expense of another – through deception and fraud. But having
    acquired, so much wealth, buys much corruption.

    Do you really think that this is going to lead to peace and harmony upon the earth ?
    It is causal to Hell on Earth, remember that it was preventable, in the first place.

    Madonna and associates were given ample opportunity to make their peace with me,
    over the last quarter of a century, it would appear that they would rather eat burning
    sulphur first, only to find, in Hell they stay and not something they were just passing
    through. Only the victim can forgive such evil, the evil sought not to be forgiven.
    In their cowardly numbers, they will eternally burn and upon this earth they will
    never return. Death and Damnation is all they have earned.

    Comment by Robert — November 17, 2011 @ 4:20 pm

  1076. Liar.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — November 18, 2011 @ 10:44 am

  1077. Entertainment Industry Parasites -

    Mobbing, Gang Stalking, DEW’s, Exploitation, Targeting and associated CRIMES against
    innocent human beings -Why don’t any of them Talk about it, what’s the THREAT and what’s
    the FEAR factor ?

    Loss of Income based on high level exploitation of innocent human beings by ‘Hidden’ methods.
    The perpetrators would be making admissions into committing crimes, of a despicable nature
    that would see them behind bars – because such laws are in place. Those that have done this,

    to another individual and profited from such crime, have effectively derived money through
    deception, fraud, espionage, the use of surveillance & harassment technologies, abuse by the
    psychiatric system of determining a so called mental illness, that was preventable, because it was
    criminally induced. What happened to crime prevention, as this crime is out of control.
    Why aren’t the psychiatrists interested, in the causal effects, of criminally induced mental illness ?

    Anyone that complains of hearing voices that can’t be explained, because these perceptions lack
    source and directivity and those nearby are not receptive to these transmissions are wrongfully made
    out to be mentally ill. Propaganda, through rumor spreading usually proceeds such misdiagnosis
    and it would require that the psychiatrists and psychologists be appropriately educated, through
    exposure of the known technologies, used to harass & interfere with the targeted individual.

    Such a passage of “EDUCATION” seems to be quite deliberately missing from their training’s, it is
    never accepted as being a reality, by these professions. (See videos in above posts – No’s 869, 882)

    Why aren’t the cop’s and lawyers, barristers, magistrates and judges interested in crime prevention ?

    That should be obvious, “What’s in it for us” – A reduction of organized crime means a reduction
    of employment opportunity, a reduction of income. Corrupted opportunists, that don’t care for
    morality issues, on how their income is derived – Evil, Parasitic Bastards that only care for
    themselves, like the generation and maintaining of the criminal practice, itself. Selfishness, Greed &
    Complete Stupidity, the kind of stuff, causal to protesting, terrorist activities and warfare.

    The Parasitic Record Producer –

    Investors, in an industry that revolves around the sale of psychological products has a reliance on
    setting up, manipulating and targeting, innocent individuals, to promote psychological attention to
    the industry’s produce. “Dump Sites”, “Patsies”, “Suckers”, “Gullible Idiots”, Good Value – for
    the purposes of intellectual property theft, identity theft and of course, at no additional advertising
    expense. This, the typical criminal attitude, of the get rich, at someone else’s expense type of crim’.
    Lobby Lloyde in 1982 – Record Producer – “Look Robert, I have put twenty thousand dollars
    of my mothers money into the Sunnyboy’s, and I’m not going to let you stuff it up”

    He had set me up, in the recording studio in September of 1981 (Albert Studio 1) and for 5 sleepless
    days & nights (Hey, another line of amphetamine ?) bombarded with the repetition of 2 songs a night
    of the Sunnyboy’s, self titled first album. Long periods of sleeplessness, combined with repetitive
    exposure, to acoustic radiation of the same material = RITUAL ABUSE.

    There was not, exactly a lot of information, on what NOT to do, around back then. In this day and
    age – still very much, a hidden crime. With not a real lot of information to go on, of what to be aware
    of, what is a threat to one’s psychological stability and character, their place in life, their income.

    So for 8 hours a night, from the kick drum up to the polishing effects touches on the vocals, over &
    over again. The same 2 songs, all night, with 4 hours per song, devoted to production. Wiring an
    individual up with Subtle Suggestion (Song Lyrics), Repetition (Rhythm) and ongoing repetitive
    exposure (4 hours of the same song – continuously) This amounting to being important parts of
    Successful Hypnosis, to which 20% of the planets population are susceptible to.

    If you hear a song once, you probably don’t pay much attention to it, hear it twice and you may
    recall, as hearing it before, hear it three times and you will either like or hate it. But, what if you are
    subjected to the same song for 4 hours, what chance would you have of avoiding any messages, as in
    hypnotic ‘triggers’ that are buried in the production mix, by subliminal methods.

    These ‘triggers’ are strategically and specifically placed for the intended targeted individual, long
    term repetitive exposure to the hit triggers, meaning the T.I. will be receptive, but not anyone else –
    only selected “tuning forks” with that particular group of resonant frequencies, is the best analogy.

    In the studio production session, these triggers are imposed on a near ultrasonic carrier, that is
    modulated with the ‘Hits – the abuse’, the finished album will have the hit’s ‘buried’ in the mix, at
    a reduced amplitude, but because of ‘masking’ effects, other listeners, of the publicly released product
    will not perceive the ritual abuse, that the T.I. was repetitively exposed to in the studio production setting.

    Exposure to this ‘hidden’ set up & crime couldn’t be called good, for your mental health, especially
    when your not involved, in such a ‘creation’ as the engineer & producer are. “Hey, Robert like to sit
    in on the Production of the Sunnyboy’s First Album ?” Big Mistake, but what was I to know and
    understand, back then. The potential consequences, of being wired up, without your knowledge, to an
    individual that despises you, obsessively, for no justifiable reason.

    Mid week, on the Wednesday, of this 5 night production session, in September 1981, Jeremy Saxon
    Oxley, being the singer/songwriter of the Sunnyboys, was using the studio intercom downstairs, on the
    street, He wanted to come up and see how the production was coming along, when he walked into
    the control room and saw me sitting on the lounge, at the rear of the control room, he said –
    ” What the Fuck is he doing here” This was in an un-provoked, pressure of speech manner, so Lobby
    (the producer) took him out side of the control room…
    10 odd minutes later they returned, Jeremy “all chummy” towards me.

    His friendship that would then continue, this was one of a hollow and manipulative nature, but not
    perceived, by me, at this time, as exploitive. Then the gang banging hype & rumor spreading, that
    commenced, started by the producer – “Oh, Robert is going to replace John David as the Sunnyboy’s
    front of house, sound engineer” This being more than subtle suggestion to maintain ‘attention’ to
    the ‘product’ Michael Chugg (Live Performance Promoter) “Robert is one of the best in the country”
    Such hype was spreading, throughout the industry, like flames on gasoline, nothing was to come of it, it
    was just wind up, merchant propaganda, which the industry of entertainment is dependant upon –
    the bullshit factor.

    Michael Gudinsky was in on the group stalking and personal association, manipulation etc, at another
    studio (SAE) situation, with the same producer – Lobby Lloyde. More of the repetition, not production,
    this time, but recording session exposure, at the School of Audio Engineering, in Surry Hills.
    This was in the earlier part of this September 1981, during the recording of Kevin Borich’s album at
    that time. The months rolled on and in came 1982…
    The Sunnyboy’s first album, was their most successful, during their career. It went double gold.

    When I was attempting to disassociate myself from an industry, that, in reality had nothing to offer, me,
    compared to what they were ‘Taking’ as all their “Hype” was nothing more than just that, complete
    bullshit. I wished, that I had some insight into what, exactly, they were doing back then. Even
    to this day – the typical attitude – “Look, I don’t want know about this” is the brick wall, a T.I.
    will come up against, when they start asking questions about such ritual abuse systems.

    I went to live with a friend and return to my trade. This wasn’t to stay comfortable accommodation.
    Jeremy visited and profiled, those I was living with, and where. Then the patterns of interfering
    commenced, with these friends, that I was living with, to destroy that friendship, with back stabbing
    operations, that other T.I.’s will be familiar with – driving the targeted individual into isolation, so as
    to maintain the programs of ritual abuse, patterning, with criminal money making scams, being the
    intent – exploitation.

    My situation, Jeremy reported back to Lobby, his de-facto wife (Deborah Nankervis) convinced me
    to move into their studio apartment, which they were vacating to make room, somewhere else for the
    birth of their first child – Frances. “Oh, Robert this would be ideal for you, you could do all your
    electronic’s stuff and no one would disturb you, you would be alone and be able to concentrate on
    your work” (Manipulative Suggestion)

    This studio apartment had been wired, for covert surveillance & harassment of my private life.
    This was my first situation of being “aware” of something that had started in 1976, but this was worse –
    Gang Stalkers. The immediate area was heavily polluted with entertainment industry operatives – band
    moles, other technicians and musicians.

    At this time I trusted Lobby & Debbie and talked, to them, about what I was experiencing in their
    old flat, not knowing what they were party to… Jeremy was abusing me, via subliminal, verbal
    harassment and wouldn’t back off. I confronted him about it, complete denial, was all I got from him,
    His attitude was like “Oh shit, you know what we are doing, help, help, fuck this”

    This was followed up, by ‘overt’ abuse and slander, this, that he distributed throughout the industry –
    this is the kind of assault that no one forgets, inclusive others in the industry, because there was no
    reason for it. Yes their was, as Jeremy was shitting bricks – I had ‘busted’ his part, in the scam of
    ritual abuse, stalking and exploitation and this was a threat to his ongoing success. It wasn’t just his
    success, that was threatened, but an important criminal practice within the entertainment industry of
    victimization of innocents, that do not participate in hit slinging games, therefore to not have the ability
    of leveling out the score by hitting back. They set up a technician, to wear abuse from High Profile
    Entertainers… What chance did I stand ?

    When I spoke to Lobby about it – things and attitudes changed, Lobby and his family fled to Melbourne
    & industry hostility towards me, the rumor spreading and the targeting expanded exponentially… What
    had I stumbled upon ? A hidden practice that is not only a great breach of human rights, a violation of
    multiple criminal & civil laws, but morally a breach of trust. It is a cut throat industry and I had the
    chance of exposing these crimes, back then, but for the devils advocate protection racket, of psychiatry –
    stripped of any chance, of burning these evil bastards, for what they did to me.

    Lobby – “I’ve put twenty thousand dollars of my mother’s money into the Sunnyboys and I am not going
    to let you stuff it up, Robert”

    What did his investment have to do with me ? What right did Lobby have to wire me up against a small
    town, small minded idiot like Oxley ? I was getting wise to what Lobby had done – Jeremy Saxon Oxley,
    the singer/songwriter, who thought I was feed stock, for him to Ritually Abuse –

    Harassment at a psychological level, as in ‘Targeting’, “hitting” out at someone, camping out on their case
    (stalking) and promoting attention, to psychological products, through psychological abuse – The crimes
    of the entertainment industry, but hidden from common understanding’s.
    Hit songs have Targeted Individuals, that are attacked by such abuse.

    Jeremy would kill himself before he ever admitted what he is a party to and Lobby is already dead.
    I Hope, my collective reporting and writing helps, other ‘Targets’, of Entertainment Industry Financed,
    Gang Stalking, DEW systems, Unlawful Surveillance, & Ritual Abuse to understand what they may be
    caught up in…How these Parasites, fraudulently and deceptively, make money out of innocent and
    defenseless human beings.

    Not to mention the Legal Parasites and how they cash in on such crimes, the devils advocate protection
    rackets, of psychiatry and “free” human experimentation, for the pharmaceutical industries, obtained by
    further deception, of victims, of this crime by the so called, ‘professional’ opinions of psychiatry.

    Comment by Robert — November 19, 2011 @ 8:57 am

  1078. Blah. blah, blah… I think I liked you better as an open Jew-baiter.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — November 19, 2011 @ 9:18 am

  1079. Madonna –

    ” Some boys love me…” some boys hate me…

    Robert –

    I’m not a Sunny Boy. Jeremy’s identity theft, my personality, intellectual property and outlook
    on life, does indeed reveal the ‘blindness’ of Madonna. The woman was never an industry remote
    ‘voyeur’ of my private life, as she was only ‘perceptive’ to the scumbag (J.S.Oxley) that was climbing
    all over me, selling out my PRIVATE life, like his buddy in organized crime, that brought Madonna to
    Australia in 1993 – Michael Gudinsky.

    Comment by Robert — November 19, 2011 @ 12:33 pm

  1080. Gudinsky & his organized criminal scams –

    Who purchased the Victoria on the Park Hotel in Enmore, Sydney, Australia ? (In 1992)
    It takes serious money, to buy a pub and the silence of the employees…

    The Victoria on the Park Hotel, Enmore -

    Located in the inner south western suburb’s of Sydney, part of the area, under control
    of the council of Marrickville, remained the theme park, for psychological assault and
    gang stalking operations, that I was the Targeted Individual of.

    In early 1993, a prepared video was played on the large screen monitor, intended to
    disturb me. This Video would be accompanied by a stalking skit, by a woman
    masquerading as Madonna, it could have been Madonna herself, quiet times, for a
    has – been, wanna – bee again.

    “Erotica” was regarded as a sleeper, by her distributor – WARNER MUSIC, who had
    ‘loaned’ her $60,000,000. , to establish the ‘Maverick’ enterprise – Warner investors
    with ‘itchy’ trigger fingers – not that happy…Bad Girl – Bad Investment, So how could they
    stimulate product attention ?

    The video was an image cut of Madonna, facing the camera and projected onto a screen,
    with the reporter sitting in front of the screen, with her back to the camera, you could see
    that the reporter was casting a shadow, onto the screen shot of Madonna.

    Madonna’s voice was dubbed, for this assault, with an American woman’s voice, like
    Madonna’s, filling in the Audio response. (Madonna, doing voice over’s, of herself ?)

    The Reporter –

    “Tell us Madonna, what are you doing in Australia” ?

    Madonna (Or Dubbed) Response –

    “I am here to find my husband”

    This assault was witnessed, by about twenty patrons, in the front bar (main bar area)
    with the ‘card’ machines and pool tables. I was playing pool (eight ball) and winning –
    looser pays, to challenge the winner.

    After this constructed video assault, two men in their early twenties and built like
    brick shit-houses walked in from the rear of the hotel with a woman dressed in lace,
    scantily clad of about 5 foot, 5 inches tall.

    She sat behind a card machine and began to gamble. The two brick shit-houses, stood
    close by her, with looks on their faces saying “do not approach, or we will ‘adjust’ your
    approach” – In Taught – A combined package of intimidation and assault. (what, I had
    gone through in 1985 – no one needs, to be subjected, to this kind of crime again)

    I continued playing pool and ignored the assault. It wasn’t the last time I would see these
    two brick shit-houses, or the masquerading Madonna. The offensive levels of interference
    that these Criminal Parasites, will go to, for the ‘almighty’ buck. “Money obtained via
    deception” “Psychological Product attention, via Psychological Assault” = Evil Creeps,
    that think, that, they are ‘BEYOND’ the law.

    Jamie Fielding was prepared, to blow the whistle on this operation (criminal), to me, but
    was thrown under a moving train, between Eskineville & St. Peters in Mid’ 93, before he
    got to ‘sing’. What of the Witnesses to the video ‘assault’ , are they still living in peace ?

    Comment by Robert — November 21, 2011 @ 1:41 pm

  1081. In belated response to yours, Barbara: The histories of conspiracism and persecutory bigotry are inextricable. And the false flag is amongst the oldest of propaganda ruses. Robert is a perp sympathizer, endorsing pogrom and genocide, much less McCarthyism and community based multi-stalking. Robert believes that the troublesome voices in his head, come via telepathy from his Jewish neighbors!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — November 21, 2011 @ 4:14 pm

  1082. Maverick records were not doing too well, many months after Warner established a joint
    venture with Madonna and gave her $60,000,000 (20/04/92) This information, was
    published in an internationally distributed magazine, that the Warner Group ‘Felt’, as, at this
    time, little chance of recovering from this investment, in Madonna & in Establishing Maverick
    records.

    At this time, Caresse Henry was working for Freddy De-Mann Entertainment, not Madonna.
    This was 1992. Freddy DeMann, was working with – mainly Madonna, her long time manager &
    business associate. It was October 1992, that the ‘interference’ of my PRIVATE life went
    ‘ballistic’ and all the ‘Feral’ beasts came out to play, the Attention for Madonna games. AT MY
    EXPENSE.

    Caresse Henry’s career, with Madonna REALLY started in 1992. This was a very LOW
    POINT, in Madonna’s Professional Life, for VERY Desperate times indeed. Multi-National
    Corporations, like the Warner Music Group, very not doing very well either and were assisted
    (out of the red) by the TIME group of companies. This is not to say, that they, have the capacity,
    to simply forget about such a 60 Million Dollar investment, and would ‘listen’ to any possible
    means of recovering the principal amount, plus returns.

    This is inclusive of criminal activities, perversion into private lives, espionage, with illegal surveillance
    etc, gang stalking, with intimidation and manipulation, of the T.I. that was, in anyway possible, a
    stimulation source to otherwise un-saleable psychological products, (What the industry refers to as
    ‘sleepers’) to get the attention gathering scams, to the products, on the road again.

    These corporate entities have many means of hiding such fraud and deception, especially from those
    they are exploiting. Corporate Schizophrenia best describes these crimes – Murdoch – “I didn’t know
    how, or what they were doing with my money” – Complete Bullshit. Why didn’t he just say “I didn’t
    really care, how I get to stay on top of the hill”

    I contacted DeMann Entertainment (I have many phone bills, with itemized dates, times and
    durations. Calling with complaints, that were not IGNORED, as the activities of perversion
    and interference increased 10 Fold. The corporate entities, that were contacted included -
    Sire Records, Warner & Maverick records in early 1993 through to late 1994. As well as
    Madonna’s Attorney (According to Caresse Henry) Paul D Schindler. Little did I know, he
    was also in bed with the Murdoch’s & Gudinsky.

    I remember speaking with Liz Rosenberg at Warner Records Quote – “This has nothing to do
    with Warner, Madonna has her own record company now” Pass the blame, although Warner
    were in the shit over the 60 Million Dollar investment and very much party to the exploitation,
    that commenced with the systematic destruction of my Business, Friends & Family Relationships
    and the ongoing abuses of setting me up, destructively for their potential gains.

    I contacted Maverick in late February 1993, Caresse Henry answered the phone. The reasons
    for my call, were the complaint of being interfered with, by unknown parties, through Madonna’s
    recorded work. This interference specifically targeting my activities and business, acoustic feedback,
    in resonant harmony with what ever the original lyrics were…
    Accusations, of Criminal psychological interference, with my personal life, this did end up
    costing me my business, which WASN’T associated with the Entertainment Industry. IN ANY
    WAY.

    Besides the gang stalking, intimidation, interference and criminal surveillance and of my private life
    And making use of the law, for unlawful purposes, it also included the 24/7 use of electronic harassment,
    all they required was line of sight, from their operating location, to my premises and a transponder
    in my motor vehicle, that is as easy as a mobile phone that can be switched on or off, remotely and
    powered by the cars 12 Volt system. A dedicated channel of two way communications, but the
    messages are buried, as modulation, on a carrier, that is approaching the upper limits of human
    hearing, that is, near to ultrasonic radiation. Such technology can be ‘triangulated’ for location, of
    the T.I. as well.

    Comment by Robert — November 22, 2011 @ 2:02 am

  1083. Robert – (post 1083)

    “in resonant harmony with what ever the original lyrics were…”

    Madonna –

    “I never got to sing, my songs, for you”

    Comment by Robert — November 23, 2011 @ 12:27 pm

  1084. Aw! Now I understand your resentment of the Jews: We stole your Madonna from you!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — November 23, 2011 @ 3:30 pm

    • It’s all overdue,

      Madonna – “Erotic, Erotic”

      Warner – “Butchered heads and scrambled eggs, buddy” – A scene from Constantine

      Word Mincer – “I dont think you know what day it is, I dont think you’ve gone that wave”

      Robert – Any of you considered a real job, instead of a head job ?

      Comment by Robert — November 24, 2011 @ 11:39 am

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    Comment by dupreturner@yahoo.com — November 24, 2011 @ 6:10 am

  1086. The system has so called ‘specialists’ such as psychiatrists, that are educated with deniability, about
    the use of technology and the programs of Ritual Abuse, this is inclusive of Gang Stalking operations.

    Some of them appear, to be perpetrators, working within the system, for their own mixed agenda’s.

    Exposure of their ‘hidden’ agenda’s, has the effect of stripping them of such deniability, therefore
    making them fully accountable, for their crimes upon this earth. “No you can’t omit the evidence, of
    ritual abuse, from the equation” as this would be ‘protective’ of the crime, “No you can’t disregard
    the application, of technology, with regard, to the victim’s complaint” this would be a breach of justice
    and basic human rights, indicative of further support, for organized crime practices, by your so called
    profession.

    How to flush out a perpetrator psychiatric nurse, or doctor, that is, offensively -

    I will consider, that your professional opinion, based on your education, was in fact, also, a product of
    Ritual Abuse. Your education, is a program sadly missing the point and deliberately omits important
    facts, this based, on how you ‘handle’ the victim’s complaints, which is by the book, written by
    perpetrators. I would also like to indicate, that your belief, your religious belief, is also Ritual Abuse.
    Nothing more than escapist fantasy, to boot. I believe, that your belief is a threat to me, as you, are
    most unwilling to even listen to what I believe in, you cowardly thug. Once, your profession believed
    that homosexuality was a mental disorder, what do your kind, believe now ? would it be, that you are
    out numbered and can’t compete ?

    I am well aware, of the defense systems, that are in place to protect your fantasizing. Save such
    Dogma, for yourself and your associates, for your own use, in death. It has no place in this matter, as
    your belief is a harbor for Satanic Ritual Abuses, upon this earth. You play games, that are not
    constructed, on a level playing field and set out, to further deceive, in defense of criminal gains, of
    which, you benefit, financially from. The balls, in your game, are regarded as minorities, which you go
    about stripping, of the based human rights, under law, which they are entitled to. Deliberate
    Misdiagnosis, creates further disregard, for a victim’s basic legal rights. I am not in denial of a
    Mental Illness, you are in denial of Ritual Abuse and the Evil, that are party to it, like yourself.

    ‘Vicky’ a RPN (registered psychiatric nurse) in 1994 said this, to me, in a conversation about Synthetic
    Telepathy. The woman’s thoughts on the subject were quite disturbing, as it reveals scant regard, for
    the artificial induction, the standard victim complaints, that simulate schizophrenia, deliberate ‘directed’
    assault by the use of known technology, that replicates the DSM criteria for the determination of this
    mental illness. What she said was unforgettable –

    “If everybody could communicate like this, there would be so much mental noise, in the world, no one
    would be able to think straight” Is this, the general professional opinion of these puppets ? Disregard
    the application of technology, misdiagnose and mistreat (chemically lobotomize) the victims and call it
    fair ? The Pharmaceutical industries that continue to ‘push’ substances, cashing in with their “bets” from
    the side lines, in this evil game.

    Crime Prevention, through disclosure and mass destruction of both sides, in a game, where the victims,
    OBJECT to being the ball. Both sides of the game are corrupted – Those that ‘interfere’ on one side,
    those that are ‘misinformed’ on the other. Destroy the game’s playing field, then, there is little financial
    incentive for such PARASITES. Pity the ‘balls’ are the minority, in the ‘game’ and the ‘thugs’, in their
    cowardly numbers, therefore rule. The Organized Crime, is the Ritual Abuse, of those that are interfering,
    their stealth is what needs to be undermined, through exposure, their stealth is the difficult card, in the
    card house, to pull. Pull that card and the entire card house system comes down. Then burn the deck…

    Comment by Robert — November 26, 2011 @ 6:59 am

  1087. “I am not in denial of a Mental Illness, but you, are in denial of Ritual Abuse and the Evil, that are party to it,
    like yourself. Calling someone mentally ill, for your own purposes and gains, is like calling someone “Anti-
    Semite”, also for your own purposes and gains. GET that through your thick head’s, “Anti Christ’s”

    You sat in judgment of me, but you, fool, have already been condemned to the fires of hell.
    You betrayed me, you profiteered from this. Judah’s cunt shit, upon this earth, your weapons of mass destruction, shall be your own undoing…Thug Scum. You will not be forgiven…UNDERSTAND ?
    MINORITY PERPETRATOR GROUPS, that includes you – Jew Arse-Lickers.

    Next year (2012) God’s army will walk this Earth and slay, with stealth, the evil upon this Planet,
    those so Misguided, by the son’s and daughter’s of Judah, the corrupted son. To Be Flushed Out
    of the Darkness, through the passage of EXPOSURE, so run scum, with no where to hide.
    You won’t read about it, in The News of the World, you won’t get a warning, you simply won’t
    know what hit you. No where to run, No where to hide.

    Your Evil Minds, are about to be cleansed by fire. NO, not micro-waved, you piece of shit.
    Truly entertaining, watching this event – SPECTACULAR ( a sight of attacking, the secular)

    You are nothing more, than one in twelve, so fuck off, You Scamming Satanic Scum. WE are not your cattle
    You are not our shepherd, WE have the truth, on our side, You only DECEIVE, for a dime, You Satanic Scum.

    I enjoy ‘seeing’ the burning, of your kind, totally unforgivable & relentless, misguided DOG shit !
    “We don’t like reform, like, what’s in it for us ?” Damnation, You Scab.
    By your own hand, on this side, by those you victimized, on the other.

    “But it’s not a serious world” Then fuck-off your fantasy, that is continually, at our expense.
    Parasite – you have no place, in this world…or the next. Get used to it, it’s gonna’ hurt, your type,
    forever more.

    Comment –

    “Yes please hit back, at the Satanic Types” “More, More and More”

    Comment by Robert — November 26, 2011 @ 12:20 pm

  1088. I’ll take that bet, Robert! What are the conditions of refutation? What unmistakable evidence will there be of such events, given that they will be so stealthy and all? How would one be able to tell, if such events as foretold by you above have not come to pass by 2013? And what are the stakes? What are you willing to sacrifice or do differently if it turns out that your prediction is erroneous? Come on, Schizo-boy, I double-dog dare ya!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — November 26, 2011 @ 3:57 pm

  1089. There are no winners, in a losers game. How the playing field is destroyed, so as, no more
    hardship, to those set up, to be the ball is how the losers game ends. Victims of this crime
    are getting wise, to how their perceived victimization, does indeed, keep the game alive.
    If all the balls pull out, off and away, from the far from level playing field, what are shit, like
    you going to do for sport, eat up the playing field ? How they pull the plug, on this game, is
    information that you will not be privy to, because you, Aaron are desperate ‘Player’

    Comment by Robert — November 28, 2011 @ 11:07 pm

  1090. Aaron Agassi said – “Come on, Schizo-boy, I double-dog dare ya!”

    Why don’t you dare *all* of us “Aaron,” because some or many of us know who *you* are. WE have been tracking you for a long time.

    These *crimes against humanity* will be revealed and will come to an end, with or without your trivial role.

    *You* are nothing to *their* cause, and in their opinion are easily expendable, like all other trash.

    Comment by ornic — November 30, 2011 @ 6:34 am

  1091. I have no qualms daring any and all legions of cranks, and not just the hate mongering bigots, to put it on the line by specifying conditions of refutation. Are you up to it, or just more hot air?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — November 30, 2011 @ 7:06 am

  1092. Hello Aaron,

    You really need some help, We know how to find you, via your DNA, your left your
    Shit all over the internet…Perpetrator. The same methods have been used to isolate
    the fantasy, of manipulating the will of others, via gang stalking religions, such as Jews
    hanging out, as scientologists… They are referred to as “Swinging Voters”. Such Beasts
    are a threat, not only to themselves, but others and this simplifies the “cleansing” process
    of removing the bullshit factor…

    Comment by Robert — November 30, 2011 @ 1:13 pm

  1093. Mad bullshit factor, just get rid of it…

    Comment by Robert — November 30, 2011 @ 2:36 pm

  1094. More hot air.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — November 30, 2011 @ 6:08 pm

  1095. Aaron Agassi is the essence of “hot air” and always has been.

    And after the funding for these assaults is cut off, Aaron Agassi will be a *Has-been.*

    Comment by uric — December 1, 2011 @ 9:10 am

  1096. a-GAS…………..see,

    “hot air” *Wannabe*

    “And after the funding for these assaults is cut off, Aaron Agassi will be” – ‘Blown Away’

    It is rather strange, that he sets out, so late in life…to make something of his name.
    Maybe he should pursue a paying job, in sales, rather than misinformation, but after this
    effortless, worthless ‘prattle’ & ‘drivel’ of his, why would anyone buy anything, he was
    trying to sell ? Pity he isn’t filled with Hydrogen and given a bright spark, BOOM, now
    that would put the wind up him. Maybe.

    His content is clearly Methane, so why is this fart still hanging around this site ? Wasn’t
    I Bright Enough ?

    Comment by Robert — December 2, 2011 @ 11:34 am

  1097. Arom A Gas See – So what’s in a name ? No need to answer that one…
    We have located the smell.

    Aaron, you should seriously consider the services, of a dietician. Remember,
    you are what you eat. Junk food is for Junkies and Junkies are full of shit, so
    what was on your next meal break menu ?

    I am not the only one, that thinks you smell, like a perpetrator, in a spook house,
    eating home delivered takeaways.

    Comment by Robert — December 2, 2011 @ 12:55 pm

  1098. The Criminal Power Base of the Entertainment Industry –

    Gang Stalking & Intimidation, Harassment, Illegal Surveillance, Assault (GBH), Psychological
    Perversion to Acquire Intellectual Property, the Drugging of an individual, to enable interference,
    Use of the law for unlawful purposes, Obtaining money via deception, The application of DEW’s
    and this list is far from complete…

    This Industry has lawyers, who know exactly what is going on. For years, would ignore the
    complaint, of a Targeted Individual, so being exploited, by their ‘clients’. Organized Crime,
    corrupted lawyers and crimes that Politicians turn a blind eye to. More in their Corrupted Pay
    Packets & Pockets by doing so.

    Paul D. Schindler, is a New York City based Attorney, who specializes in Entertainment Industry
    law work. I made a video tape, after nearly 18 Months of abuses, by Gang Stalking ‘Desperate’
    entertainers and their third party ‘recruitments’ that were pushing their luck, a little too far.

    The reason for making the Video, was that I believed my attempts to speak to this Attorney, via
    telephone & fax were not getting through to this intended person, that is, the communications
    were being intercepted and directed elsewhere. Communications ‘hacking’ and the Murdoch’s
    cash cow – Festival Mushroom Records – this is back then, in 1993.

    Why was I directed, By the Late Caresse Henry, to Madonna’s Attorney – Schindler, in early
    1993, only to be then ignored by the man, who NEVER spoke to me, or communicated in any
    other way, such as by fax. The applied ignorance continued for over 16 months, but, unknown
    to me, at the time, he wasn’t just Madonna’s lawyer, but the attorney, for Australian’s such as
    the Murdoch’s and Gudinsky, who were party to the crimes, committed against me.

    Calls to Schindler were always answered by Ms. Jackson, who, upon a phone call, to the same
    phone number, in 1995 – She had never been known as a secretary, to Schindler, on the Phone
    Number – (212) 5540400. The phone accounts, show the numbers called, to the USA, dates
    and the durations of such calls, what ? were they re-directed “return to country of origin”
    It was Ms. Jackson that signed for one of the Video tapes that were sent via DHL to New York
    City in February of 1994.

    Madonna was still in Australia, with no further business here, other than maintaining, the Gang
    Stalking, Interfering and Harassment of my life, either by recruited third parties and/or by herself.
    This was 2 Months AFTER the Stalking Act was passed by the NSW legislative assembly.
    So profile Entertainers are exempt, from such laws are they ? Laws to protect those with, but not
    accessible, to those being exploited by these Wealthy & Organized CRIMINALS.

    This industry, so dependant upon such crimes, as seen by those Targeted, Pinned Down and
    Ripped off, by this ‘business’. Madonna’s business in Australia ended in early January of 1994.
    She remained in Australia until the end of February, but this wasn’t public knowledge.

    I had two copies made, that were converted to the NTSC – American Standard, from the original
    PAL format, DHL was used as the courier service and I nominated that the copies be registered,
    with signatures required, from the recipients. Schindler & Sire Records, both in NYC. “Ms. Jackson”
    for Schindler and “Zorro” for Sire Records.

    Comment by Robert — December 2, 2011 @ 3:43 pm

  1099. After a year of attempts, to communicate with Schindler, via phone & fax the video tapes
    were sent to NYC. All hell broke loose with constant V2K prattle about “Schindlers List”,
    then, these industry *Buzz* words went overt, with the media, promoting attention, to the
    S. Spielberg production, called “Schindlers List”. Wow, what a coincidence ! No it isn’t,
    it is part, of the attention, via disturbance, promotional SCAM. Hits, like this, have a Target.

    So what about Paul D. Schindler ? , did he ever recover, from the “Schindlers List”,
    promotional SCAM, in 1994, after he received my video tape, In February ‘94 signed for,
    in New York by Ms. Jackson, who, according to the receptionist in Late 1995, had never
    worked there.

    Schindlers List –

    1992 –
    Tied the knot on the formation of Maverick between Time Warner & Madonna

    1993 –
    Sale of 49% of Mushroom Records Australia (Gudinsky) to News Corp. Ltd (Murdoch)

    1994 –
    Received a Video Recording from me, about the ill effects, of the assault, that was ruining
    my life, non stop 24/7 privacy violations, stalked, in and out of Sydney, with no escape, from
    these financed and duped perpetrators, the duped led to believe there was something “in it
    for them” that were party to the “Gang Banging”, rumor spreading, that attracts the attention,
    of the easily manipulated, cheaply financed, white trash Junky Sector, looking for a taste, of
    someone else life & mind.

    1998 –
    The remaining 51% of Mushroom Records Australia was sold to News Corp Ltd, WITHOUT
    the real assets, of this recording label business, the recordings themselves, along with other
    assets & trademarks.

    2000 & on – Ricky Martin and Jessica Simpson were added to Schindlers list of client dealings
    both of which were on Caresse Henry’s resume, as published on her LinkedIn pages.

    Maybe not on Schindlers List –

    In October 2005 Festival Mushroom Records was wound up and its trademarks and assets
    (including its large archive of master recordings) were sold to the Australian division of the
    Warner Music Group.

    So, with the acquisition, by the Warner Music Group of the Master Recordings and Assets,
    that is, all of the stuff, that is worth something, not acquired, previously, by News Corp LTD,
    of Festival Mushroom Records.

    This was the deal, that the Mushroom Artists – gang stalking vermin, were promised, the Global
    Distribution of the back catalogue of their recorded works by the Giant – The Warner Music Group.

    Their back catalogues were shelved for 5 years, Warner failed to honor it’s criminal deal, with
    these Vermin, that Stalked and grossly interfered with my life – to promote attention, to Madonna,
    at my ongoing expense and assist in the Warner Groups recovery, of the $60,000,000 mis-
    investment in Maverick Records, which is what is was – a bad investment, in October of 1992,
    being the published opinion, of the Warner Music Group, itself.

    The WMG, recovered, from their ‘Bad Girl Investment’, then ‘suckered’ the Mushroom Recording
    Artists, that had criminally, violated – my life. They aren’t going to talk about innocent blood on
    their hands, are they ?

    In 2010 the Back Catalogue, of Mushroom Artists Material and the Assets were re-Purchased, by
    Gudinsky, back from the Warner Music Group. It’s all just Organized Crime money laundering.

    2005, was also the year, that the WMG acquired Madonna’s Shares (50%) in Maverick Records,
    but the WMG had no use for Caresse Henry, who knew too much and was then wired up, to a
    “slow kill” program.

    Comment by Robert — December 3, 2011 @ 6:55 am

  1100. It seems like video tutorials are getting used a lot at the moment, an excessive amount of actually. Perhaps I’m a little quaint but I do wish to read and digest data slowly every so often.

    Comment by Lacy — December 10, 2011 @ 2:15 am

  1101. Seeing is believing, a picture tells a thousand irrefutable words. When we are
    dealing with paid psychological assassins – what pictures can they present ?

    Anything in the ‘scene’ of post No. 869 to be ‘hammered’ by the disinformation
    sector ?

    Comment by Robert — December 13, 2011 @ 10:10 am

  1102. Psychiatry & Psychology – “We Didn’t wish to look” – “We like our narrow minded Activity,
    of bullshitting and offending, winding up the innocent, playing devils advocate and the
    generation of human guinea pigs for ‘Big Pharma’…’cause that’s where the big bucks
    are”

    Victim Comment – GO TO HELL, DO NOT COLLECT THE BIG BUCKS, KEEP MOVING
    DOWNWARDS, TO THE EARTH’S CORE WITH YOUR ‘UN’ KIND. (2012)

    Comment by Robert — December 13, 2011 @ 10:20 am

  1103. Psychiatry & Psychology, like Religion – Decept-O-Cons (To Decieve, a Confidence Trickster – a BULLSHITTER)

    SPLATTER THEM ! Escapist & fantacy crud, they are harder, to take for a walk, than the ‘spooks’ But living or
    ‘dead’ we are all victims of ritual abuse. So what’s your poison, what program did you swallow ?

    Comment by Robert — December 13, 2011 @ 10:29 am

  1104. “Anti – Christ” , “Anti – Christ”

    O.K. What did they call you Robert ?

    “Anti – Semite” .

    Moving on….

    Away from Slur session work. Crimes that just don’t pay, I find them very ‘Taxing’

    Comment by Robert — December 13, 2011 @ 11:04 am

  1105. Actual Scenario (1993)

    One of many, best explaining further and simply what they do, and why.
    Part of a private phone conversation, with my cousin, who is an attorney -

    Cousin – “you know what your problem is Robert, you suffer from selective hearing”

    Me – “Are you saying, I only hear what I wan’t to”

    Some day’s after this, I was subject to repetitive V2K, that could be considered as
    ‘Hounding’, it is a narly, nit picking Female voice and the repetitive part, of this is –

    “Are you saying, I only hear what I wan’t to”

    Within a period, of only months later, whilst working on a construction site, as
    usually encounted, in such a situations, some other tradesman has a pop radio
    station on the dial.

    Along comes a song that I hadn’t heard before and early in the lyrics is THE HIT -

    “And you say, I only hear what I wan’t to”

    (What was released was – “AND you say” – a harmonic variant of the repetitive abuse)

    What happened upon hearing this ‘line’ is I was overcome with a severe Tinnitus attack
    and this affected my physical balance (I am glad I wasn’t up a ladder)

    Why –

    Their “HIT” was stolen intellectual property garnered from criminal surveillance of my
    private life and a personal phone conversation. It was super- imposed, with a ‘pain’
    sequence, like what is used in a ‘thief deterrent’ ultrasonic system in a shopping mall.

    They knew I was on that construction site, that day, via criminal surveillance of my
    phone and premises. The song was on the play list, of ‘that’ radio station, (PayOla)
    (organized crime) as listened to – by that tradesman. Yes, I had been working at that
    site, many times before – it was a 6 million dollar home, under construction, in 1992 -
    1994.

    Position the device (post 869) or similar technology (1970′s precursors of directed
    energy acoustic weapons) as required, to maximize ‘effect’, that is, disturbance to
    “spook the dude” (the T.I.)

    Why does it work so ‘selectively’ ?

    The “HIT” was reinforced with repetitious suggestion amounting to electronically induced
    subliminal (V2K hypnosis) multiple times prior to the public ‘AIRPLAY’ of the product.
    (Get Used to it – at a sub’ level)

    The “HIT” is effectively a “Trigger” to enable an Emotional Response Cluster (ERC)
    release from the “TARGET” whereby the ERC information is transmitted and syncronised,
    with the hit, via the ‘positioned’ localalized DEW, near to the site. Could have been within
    the building site, or from a car or even a nearby house, with line of site.

    The target is on the receiving end, of this publically broadcast, psychological
    product (HIT SONG ?) and a WAVE is made based on the target’s reaction to it.

    ( “How did that feel ?” ” he’s out there somewhere, I think we nailed him good”)

    This response is publically felt and promotes attention, to the hit song. The general
    public then reacts, at a subconscious level, to the ERC and attention, to the song and
    sales goes in an upwards spiral.

    The target is being sold out without consent, respect or royalty cheques…Cheated
    out of their Minds, Privacy and Mental Health. Sleep deprivation, Tinnitus, Persecution
    by parties unknown. PSYCHOLOGICAL TORTURE that goes on, without an ending why
    scum go on a feeding frenzy and line their pockets with criminal gains.

    IS THERE ANY HELP on offer ?

    As mentioned previously – PSYCHIATRY to perform a chemical lobotomy and throw
    another wasted target on the shit heap of human refuse – upon complaint, by the T.I.
    Unfortunately, THIS is all, that these Corrupted, scum have to offer such victims, or
    should I say – those that submitted to ‘THAT’ program of Ritual Abuse. As In –
    “Their Belief”

    Not to mention – Isolation of the Targets, to prevent any associational groups from forming,
    with the usual ‘induction’ of paranoid reasons, “shrink justifications” of “Fear” that some
    of the Victims may be operatives (perp’s) The Shrinks never replace ‘Paranoid’ with
    ‘justifiable caution’ They are about to learn, some new words….

    Lawful/Private Investigations ?

    Our cities are bathing in Microwave Radiation, the neighbour gets paid $700 – $1,000
    per year, to have a “Wireless” internet transponder installed in their roof and what else ?

    Microwave based DEW’s, under computer control, via the ‘approved’ wireless internet
    transponder ?

    The power levels, of the DEW’s, microwave radiation are below the noise floor of ‘Background’
    communications, microwave technology, meaning that detection of a DEW source would be
    probably impossible.

    Operators using this criminal application, of technology, to prosper financially are thus well
    protected, sanctioned revenue rakers and untouched, by any complaint launched at them, by
    any victims of this crime. How many people (victims) does it take, to splatter corporate crime ?

    Defense Program -

    If you can’t beat this system used by criminals who can’t be identified, shut down &
    prosecuted, then there is an old favoured practice, that could work, remember how the
    mafia, in New York City, were out of control in the 1970′s ?

    A police officer saw the corruption, in his own workplace and acting alone, started a covert
    operation to turn these ‘families’ against each other. It was seen as successful.

    Your “Hit” slinging loud mouth puppets are vulnerable, this is not to suggest they are
    responsible for “hitting” out at you. Those that prosper, financially from them, are the strategic
    targets, in a long overdue act, to level out the playing field. We, as victims, of such crime have
    the ability to defend ourselves, by finacially ruining the playing field.

    That will teach you parasites a lesson – if everyone could do it – then no one will pay for it !

    AND

    Of those, proven to have made money from such crimes – They LOSE IT, they obtained, their
    wealth, from a violation of existing, but un-enforced LAWS. – SCREW THEM – Screw their
    deceased estates. (Modern day, pyramid recovery of OUR assets, not the thieving squatters,
    sitting on their gold bar stool – it’s shit)

    That, will take out (wholesale, their evil agenda) their ‘BUSINESS’ – In 2012

    “yeah. just weeks away” – Cleansed Brain Cells, Burnt out trash. Destruction of these power
    tripping satanic scum – METHOD = EXPOSURE of their PRACTICES & MANIPULATION of the
    law (their corruption) The ‘LAW’ subject to reform. Those that don’t wish to play, then please
    help, to level out the playing field, because NO ONE NEEDS THIS SHIT.

    Burn their business methods, their secrets (organized crime) & So burning their economies and
    therefore BURNING them ! as they will have nothing to live for, in a world, in which, they thought
    owed them a living, at the expense of others. FALSE GOD SCUM, escapist PIG SHIT. GET RID
    of THEM. Learn to live in peace, when the ongoing war, is no more. A different “PROGRAM” .
    It begins with REFORM.

    Comment by Robert — December 13, 2011 @ 1:06 pm

  1106. As a matter of historical irony, Jew-haters themselves first coined the term “Anti-Semitism” actually in order to sound classier! Robert, in a recent post number 1105 you complain of being subjected to a slur. Really? May I refer you back to your own post number 1072? Your true colors are nowhere better on public exhibition. So why bother to deny it? What’s the matter, Robert? Are you deemed too nutty even for Stormfront?

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — December 13, 2011 @ 7:50 pm

  1107. Is this all you have left, to reflect on, Agassi ?

    An individual presents information on gang stalking, DEW’s and exploitation, those, that were behind the
    exploitation, that made serious money out of this crime, at this individuals expense. They have never been
    brought to justice. I show how they ‘hide’ behind a religious ‘front’ and look after each other, in their
    cowardly numbers game, religions are not only a tax haven, in most parts of the world, but they are also
    safe harbors for criminals. All you do, Agassi, is what they did, nit pick, persecute and detract, I understand
    your problem, there aren’t many jobs on offer, for fleas and other parasites, that ‘haunt’ sites, like this and
    the contributing writings, of others, that you attack, for sport. Get a life…one you could call your own.

    You continue to attack, victims of organized crime, like you are looking, for a place, or friends in this crime,
    itself. My enemies friend, a wannabe ‘gang stalker’ is my enemy. The ‘War’ is over, when the dedicated
    efforts, of victims, achieve the desired results and take this system apart, most destructively, so it can no
    longer be operational. What are you going to do then, A gas bag ? Different Aron A Therapy ?

    Comment by Robert — December 14, 2011 @ 9:18 am

    • First of all, Robert, no one has any reason to trust or attend to your semi-coherent so called information, you loony hypocrite. And secondly, yes, I responded on a specific point which you now continue to evade, much as I expected you to, because I speak to your true agenda, invalidating all of your diversionary convoluted conspiracism along with your hate speech and empty threats revealing you as no victim but rather some kind of deranged perp sympathizer.

      Comment by Aaron Agassi — December 14, 2011 @ 7:04 pm

  1108. The Electromagnetic War

    Prior to the ‘evolution’ of A.C. mains power distribution, cinema frame rates and further polution, of our environment by
    radio waves, radar systems, television transmissions, the microwave cell phone network, ‘other’ electromagnetic and
    electrostatic sources, of radiation, we, as the human race, had the original earth’s natural resonances, to tune into -
    studied and credited research – the Schumann resonances.

    Now swamped and therefore ‘masked’, from these Naturally occuring EMR. Consequences ? How about World War I ?
    So mind control first existed as an artificial means, of taking out of the equation – Our harmony with nature.

    A common complaint, of victims of gang stalking, is the ‘ability’ of the perpetrators to ‘see’ what we see, ‘hear’ what we
    hear and seem to be able, to ‘feel’ out our bodily movements. We are bathing in artificial radiation, that acts as the
    carrier and conditioner, to enable this ‘perversion’. We are being told that privacy, is a thing of the past, whether we
    like it or not. This attitude, promotes the terpitude, of organized gang stalking – “Keep an eye on them” So what of
    the privacy laws ? The laws against gang stalking & intimidating ?

    William Rife (Also known as Royal Rife) studied the effects of EMR, at a variety of different frequencies and their
    therapeutic benefits, but to the efforts and the MONEY of the Pharmaceutical industry, to debunk his work, little research
    has continued, that would challenge the pill popping junky age. This alternative research and developement would also
    include, a possible means of ‘shutting’ out the pervert crowd – “We lost control of him/her” “We can’t see, or hear them
    anymore”

    Although, generally accepted, is ‘Radio-Therapy’ along side ‘Chemo-therapy’ for Treatment Programs of Cancer.
    “Radiation can induce Cancers, and Radiation can cure them” “An electrical current can stop or start the Heart”
    So alternative research could, lead to the developement of a protective ‘field’ to shut out the ‘Voyeur’ , ‘Audient’ and
    ‘Centian’ perpetrators… Yep – The Pervert Crowd, obstructed, from climbing all over you, ‘tuning In’ so as to speak,
    with their hostile ‘waves’ of stalking and ‘haunting’ you – the targeted individual (T.I.)

    So now, with life on earth, bathing in radiation, generated artificially – how many diseases, disorders and proliferation
    of viruses, including gang stalkers, have been created ? Bacterial & Viral evolution assisted by artificial radiation of the
    planet. Life was clearly a little easier, before all this ‘irradiating’ of life, as we new it.

    Apathy – Take your friend for a holiday, away from the ‘rat race’ ” Hey, I discovered another person and intellect”
    “An entirely different animal” This was once possible, not so sure anymore, with spy satellites (got a credit card ?
    and you can get a person of interest under surveillance – 24/7) oh, don’t forget the cell phone, tower coverage, now
    common place everywhere.

    Mobile phone ? then your location is known through radio triangulation. The cell phone, it doesn’t even need to be
    switched on, just the SIM card and a charged battery. So Implants – are no longer required and tracking systems are
    simplified. Your coordinates are then fed into the spy satellite system for nefarious purposes – someone wishes
    to put you up and take you for a ride, or for what ever, other purpose, these criminal scum had in mind. Gang
    Stalking, via the use of technology, is made too easy.

    Those with such intent, that had the credit card – but, then again, a corporation like Warner probably ‘owns’ spy satellite
    channels and no credit card is required. This, in regards to surveillance, for the purpose of exploitation, of the T.I.

    The big threat to organized gang stalking is the application, of regulation, to the surveillance industry. Without regulation,
    then ANYONE can get access to the technology without being questioned. For the victims, of the organized crime, of gang
    stalking, that sucks.

    Comment by Robert — December 14, 2011 @ 11:28 am

  1109. “Big Time”

    I have my way of breaking it

    I will watch it, falling…

    Apart.

    Comment by Robert — December 14, 2011 @ 12:07 pm

  1110. It was “pushed” off it’s lucative perch.

    Comment by Robert — December 14, 2011 @ 12:19 pm

  1111. Organized crime, organized confusion or Organized GREED !

    Watch it Falling.

    Comment by Robert — December 14, 2011 @ 12:26 pm

  1112. In response to post number 1108: First of all, Robert, no one has any reason to trust or attend to your semi-coherent so called information, you loony hypocrite. And secondly, yes, I responded on a specific point which you now continue to evade, much as I expected you to, because I speak to your true agenda, invalidating all of your diversionary convoluted conspiracism along with your hate speech and empty threats revealing you as no victim but rather some kind of deranged perp sympathizer.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — December 14, 2011 @ 7:00 pm

  1113. There is little to be left of your Aroma, A Gas See

    This was pretty obvious, when your Mythical Energy Weapons and Straw Man bullshit was exposed.
    Those you titled ‘Strawmen’ are other victims of this crime, they have been for some time.
    The Mythical Weapons, according to you, were exposed as a stark reality, by me, in which you made no
    further comment upon, you have an ongoing habit (junky) of ‘attack’ reality to reinforce your
    fantacy. You lost some time ago, my only need, in writing to you, is to get you off this site.
    You are a complete waste to the effort, a typical wasted junky, still to learn that your part in this
    game is over…because the game is over, it’s all overdue.

    Why would you wish to continue, on a playing field, that has been levelled out ?

    Comment by Robert — December 14, 2011 @ 10:06 pm

  1114. Fool! I now see that you do not even comprehend the expression: straw man argument. And you have proved nothing except that you can be relied upon to sidestep salient question.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — December 15, 2011 @ 12:37 am

  1115. I have said this before, you, Agassi have nothing to offer, You wish to dominate the site with splatter
    and attack true victims, of this crime. You have no personal story, of your own to tell. Your “bullying”
    “Bullying” crap bacame a bore, to others, that had something to say, others that you jumped all over.

    There is nothing here for you to pilfer, you parasite, what are you looking for, Pesticide ?. You will
    have to wait, until next year for your lethal dose. If you are looking for War and Napalming, look
    elsewhere… Pesticide is all that you need, but you will have to be patient, parasite.

    Comment by Robert — December 15, 2011 @ 4:40 am

  1116. As if it matters what you say!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — December 15, 2011 @ 4:50 am

  1117. Your first post, on this site (Post No. 227 – Aug 9 2010) Arom A Gas See -

    “The mode of flaming in question is called: sock-puppetry. And clearly, the mod was summarily enlisted as an unwitting proxy in abuse of power”

    I can’t find what it is relevant to, seems like you are responding, on this site, with what was meant for another forum. How many sites do you disturb ?
    Speaking of Napalm & Flaming, how is your diet going, are you on a diet ? It’s just that your smell (Aroma-Therapy) seems to be fading, into the
    background radiation of sidewalk shit, which is a matter for the health department, to make a determination on whether it requires ‘treatment’ via
    a cleanup program.

    Comment by Robert — December 15, 2011 @ 5:06 am

  1118. As I explained at the time, I was responding to post number 1: “The severe attack against the poster trying to discuss the topic started instantly, was way out of proportion and appeared to be coordinated, or from a single poster with several aliases. These aliases were newly registered with zero posts at the start.” Classic sock-puppetry.

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — December 15, 2011 @ 5:17 am

  1119. Your first post, A Gas See, you explained NOTHING. You remain on the sidewalk, please stay off the road…

    Comment by Robert — December 15, 2011 @ 5:33 am

  1120. Go fuck yourself!

    Comment by Aaron Agassi — December 15, 2011 @ 5:42 am

  1121. Why should I follow your lead ?

    Comment by Robert — December 15, 2011 @ 8:02 am

  1122. More on Electro-Magnetic/Static ‘Mind Control’ Histories

    The original source, of Alternating Current (A.C.) (Mains Power) was first generated at 25 cycles. Many complaints were made in the late 1800′s about –
    “Hyper Mania” before such words were ‘coined’. (By Psychiatry ?) This operating frequency was quickly abandoned, except for industrial applications
    which were still reliant upon it for “BIG” motors.

    Of those affected, by 25Hz “Hyper Mania”, some were still “f…ed up” by the 50Hz system when released, no doubt ‘sensitive types and those 50Hz systems
    were sold off… 60Hz wasn’t a harmonic and so the ‘sensitive types’ no longer complained ?

    The Hyper Mania effects were not discarded, “Cine” type frame rates in motional picture productions quckly adopted 25 frames per second when the cost
    of film stock (silver) was easily offset against “the gains” (Captive Audiences)

    Note – The advancements, that on call this ‘starting’ point based on 25 Hertz – 25 frames/sec, as later adopted scan rates and the likes of 50Hz & 100Hz…
    Why ? 25 Hz was the fundamental, 50 & 100Hz are OCTAVES. So Jump on a flight to get away from this ? 400Hz…yep another octave, with reference to
    the fundamental, of 25 Cycles/Sec “Mains Power” Aircraft Style (Less Core Material, Weight – yeah right, as in B/S)

    Prior to this, the “Cine” ‘standard’ seemed to be around 16 Frames per second, boring as it was, at the Beta/Alpha border of brain wave activity.
    NOT maximally in the Alpha region with ‘advanced’ frame rates of 24-25 frames a second. Brain wave activity – Hyper Mania – Big Deer like Eyeballs, on
    the silver screen, all round from the viewer’s – “freq’ed out’ and not too many, could sleep through that flicker rate.

    The relevance is ‘carriers’ that accomodate the easy perversion of ‘stalking’, like wiring (physically) two individuals up to ‘align’ their EEG plots.
    See – “Inception” the T.I. is also named Robert – a Warner Production.

    Comment by Robert — December 15, 2011 @ 8:25 am

  1123. The Hollowood Production of “Inception”

    Script writers, actors, production and the vast backbone of technicians, that are behind such psychological products, do, indeed go to extreme lengths, not to walk on their own ‘toes’.

    As depicted, in “Inception” the covert drugging scene, “This will take him out, for the length of time, of the airplane flight” Then depicting contact electrodes, between the perverts, that
    were seeking intellectual property, of benefit to their ’cause’ – (money & power) from the targeted individual (T.I.) The production, of this flick, didn’t even touch on the modern use, of
    microwave radiation, to achieve the same results.

    All that is required, is line of site, from a spook house, nearby to the targeted individual (T.I.) see post No. 882 (again ?) for a better understanding, for any ‘newbies’ to this ‘education’
    and then, ask yourself – Why hollowood productions, are still very much in the dark ages, with the sensationalization of technology from the 1920′s ? Oh, that’s right – they don’t wish to
    walk on their own ‘toes’ with regards to, the modern methods & madness, of thought mining, in the junky age, that has no respect for privacy. So – We have to expose their terpitude, if
    we wish to see, the surveillance (and harassment) industry, REGULATED. When this happens – Big Brother is ? – F…ed. So Are ‘THEY’ going to suggest, that it would cramp their style,
    on the ‘ART’ of obtaining, freedom of ‘expression’ from another writer, before the book is written and published ? It would appear that the perp’ crowd would like to see the book ‘burnt’
    before it was published. So Blow Them Off – ‘On Line’

    Comment by Robert — December 17, 2011 @ 9:03 am

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  1125. Gang Stalking & the Media -

    Besides what this writer has a knowledge of, regards this crime, not to mention, the now defunct, ‘News of the World’, what about the media in general ?

    Who would suggest, that the Paparazzi, are innocent of gang stalking crimes. Their bread & butter revolves around privacy violations, to get a ‘story’ they dont care who’s toes they walk on, to obtain media saleable
    commodities, that have nothing to do with “news-worthy” but more to do with ‘highly saleable’ comment and photography, obtained, via the violation of PRIVACY.

    Private Investigator abuse-age and the illegal use, of surveillance technology, that remain unregulated and consequently, the criminal sector, that obtains, via deception, access to privacy AND intellectual property, for
    financial gains, of corporate criminals. REGULATE the surveillance industry sector, so needed, is a damn good reason to perversly violate, another persons private life. Presently (and unregulated) it sells escapism
    and un-newsworthy, ‘news’ stories, as this is the sad justisfication, for the ongoing excuses, of organized criminals – As with privacy violations, via illegal surveillance, comes harassment, which is manipulation, of events,
    that would normally, not occur, in other words – pushing someone ‘over the edge’ with 24/7 PERVERSION, INTIMIDATION, HARASSMENT and PROGRAMS that amount to TORTURE of the targeted individual.

    The laws, against such activities, are already in place, but who is allowed to surveil the surveillance/harassment operatives, to collect supportive evidence, of the crimes in progress ?
    Yes, how would the perpetrator crowd like it ? Yes, cramp their ‘style’ and give them ‘writers block’ –

    “If they should ever sell out, someone else’s time, it would be the end of their kind” – Because there was NO CONSENT.

    Now, let’s try and ENFORCE THE LAWS. HAS Anyone tried CHARGING, the GANG STALKING PAPARAZZI, for privacy violations, or under the STALKING ACT, if applicable, in your country ?
    ONLY those ‘WITH’ have suceeded ! What about the ‘WITHOUTS’ being ‘screwed’ by those ‘with’, the power and money, that believe they are ‘beyond’ the laws, that are supposed to govern all ?
    What of those, yet to be brought to justice, on their methods of making a buck, via deception and exploitation, of those, that they ‘target’ and/or ‘scapegoat’ –

    “Hey Police Officer – Why are we harassing this Guy” – response – “I dont know, orders, from the top – he seems to be of interest, to the pervert crowd, who are screwing with him, for a return, somewhere.
    I’m just following orders” – “From the Top… You Know, The Corrupting Idiots, that control my pay-packet”.

    REGULATE THE SURVEILLANCE INDUSTRY – NOW, not maybe next year, or the year after… The PAPARAZZI are very much a part of the Surveillance Industry and the ‘Gang Stalking Crowd’ something for those
    ‘WITH’ to think about… How do you like your privacy, your psychological stability – your life… Burnt was it , or just toasted ?

    Comment by Robert — December 18, 2011 @ 1:56 pm

  1126. If we are deprived of privacy, then we have no secrets, if we have no secrecy, we are deprived of a life, that we could call our own. Mankind would become nothing more than components, making up ‘the machine’,
    of which those, with, would continue to control, like puppets. There would be no originality, as multiple patent applications would be placed simultaenously, for the same ‘idea’, singer songwriters would be writing
    the same songs and try and have ‘theirs’ played, publicly, first. They would fight and argue the point, over milliseconds. Button pushers would be pushing the same buttons, Hollowood scripts would be predictable
    and we would seek out – of the ‘Cinema’, before we threw up, due to repetitive exposure, of the same so called ‘theme’. Fashion would return, to a new generation, that hadn’t been ‘bashed’ by it before. Nothing
    would be new, or show novelty and we would all rot, in the stench of repetition and the smell would overcome us.

    So maybe it’s already too late ?

    Gang Stalking is nothing new, it is as old as religious ‘conversion’ – the process of wining votes, through sales, of a different fantacy, but still unworkable crud. The more that believe, in the bullshit factor isn’t going
    to see the realization, of the escapist dreams. Selling real estate, in the heavens…. well, I find it Offensive. Having laws, that are only accessible, to the wealthy, I also find Offensive. When the Gudinski, Murdoch
    Madonna – Promoted, Financed and Performed – GANG STALKING targeted my life, again, in 1992, I started climbing up a hill, called a pyramid and started taking it apart – from the top down. Reverse Engineering
    101. It used to be their ‘System’, but it looks like a pile of rubble to me, with nothing of ‘value’ left and NO CHANCE of re-construction. They won’t build those again.

    Comment by Robert — December 20, 2011 @ 7:17 am

  1127. If, as victims of gang stalking, we can realise that, the entertainment industry, which has more exposure hours, than religion, in most of our lives, with regards to psychological perversion and manipulation, then, those
    that call themselves victims, should, in reality, be EVERYONE.

    It is only those, that have objected, through awareness of the programs, of manipulation, aiding the crime, without consenting, to being exploited and bullshitted, that we all should accept there is a mounting problem.

    Those with the money and power, like to keep it ‘A Secret’. When the wealthy are threatened, by economic ‘screw ups’ they plough their criminally acquired wealth into the materials sector and restrict access to raw
    materials, as, with the internet, they can no longer restrict knowledge. So, this is ONE of ‘Their Methods’, to remain in ‘Control’ , to offset the threat of cheap labour markets, that are getting a ‘first world’ education…

    America’s biggest export, now days, to China is recyclable packaging materials, while American consumption, to increase national debt is landfill commodities, Chinese made products, with planned failure and
    obsolescence, inherent by design – by so called ‘Americans’, with America’s interest’s at heart – Have They ? Most American’s, with money, like anyone else, from anywhere else, only think about themselves.
    When threatened, we see defensive, multi-national corporate criminals, that get together, in an attempt to save only themselves. Everyone else, is told they have to pay, for such ‘efforts’

    Religious Belief and Entertainment are both escapist values, like other ‘big businesses’ there is a trend to avoid both, because the Junky Age of Consumerism and Land-fill Worship isn’t working any more…

    Gang Stalking is a tool of those ‘with’, used against those ‘without’, but it is also a land-fill commodity. To undermine the effectiveness of gang stalking, to promote attention, to otherwise unsaleable commodities,
    has the desired effect of reducing human waste, which is land-fill. (Why are you stalking me, have you got a death wish ?) The problem, with regards to gang stalking, is that only the victims, with awareness,
    through heavy victimisation, are talking about it.

    The Victims tend to see the superficiality, of those that wish to argue the point, on it’s existence, the harm it does, to who & why. Only those that are threatened, with disclosure, of this kind of psychological perversion
    and manipulation, of the human race, all at work, for the sake of the minority, which is the wealthy, who tend to scream, the loudest, to protect such a crime.

    In other words gang stalking victimisation, it should be common knowledge and the policing, against it, should already be in place. Those ‘With’, control the legal system, one law for those ‘With’ and no justice for those
    ‘Without’. What if the wealthy became victims of Gang Stalking ? Yes, an overdue method, to obtain legal reform….Why surveillance remains unregulated, then the victims COULD turn the tables (‘camera’s & microphones’)
    onto the exploitive perpetrators. If anyone could do it, to anyone else, then laws and therefore law enforcement, would put an end to it… Bye Bye to the wealthy (big brother, organised crime) screwing those without, to stay
    on top ‘of the hill’ How would you like it ? “I don’t know, I don’t care, no one has had me gang stalked” “So why should I give a damn, about such victims and their plight, they must have done something to deserve it”
    a typical attitude, of non – victims, part of the dumbing down of society, to enable the ‘program’, of exploitive ritual abuses, to continue – without any challenge OR reform.

    Comment by Robert — December 22, 2011 @ 8:18 am

  1128. Happy New Year ?

    “When threatened, we see defensive, multi-national corporate criminals, that get together, in an attempt to save only themselves. Everyone else, is told they have to pay, for such ‘efforts’ ” – (from above)

    Gang Stalking manipulation & directed energy weapons ‘themes’ that are promoting – “Insurance Fraud” – Recently – the gulf of Mexico, environmental vandalism scenario…. So what do they want ?
    Burning Brimstone, as socio environmentally acceptable ? Pass the Sulfuric Acid… It ain’t a laxitive. “Hey dude, that stuff, it will rip you apart”

    Comment by Robert — January 2, 2012 @ 5:57 am

  1129. thanks for the great relevant information? it seems like i have been searching forever for great info,what a great site and great information,thankyou

    Comment by micky — January 2, 2012 @ 2:52 pm

  1130. Burning the brimstone and the product, so obtained, when mixed with water, set aside… (Acid Rain)

    The Entertainers Ticket, the complaints of many T.I’s, is reception of unwanted splatter, that, to a shrink, is schizophrenia. How convienient, for those that use this mental molestation, as a tool. Tesla fled the Eastern Block, to get away
    from it, the source of the psychological disturbance, that was ‘eating away’ at Tesla was narrowed down to a side band signal, onboard the carrier frequency, of Radio Moscow. What the program, that was quite subliminal